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[Lise]

Fish: as a friend from Tennessee used to say: Mo-wer will be ree-veealed! (MWBR)

I swear, I pass out handfuls, armfuls, bucketfuls of condoms at work. Sometimes I think, seriously? You guys are using these? Or are you just taking them to make me feel good? :confused: :rolleyes:

MP: I just keep thinking how glad I am that the Death Ride didn't get to live up to its name. I cannot believe you did all the riding you did with clots in your lungs. How great is it going to feel when you've got this behind you and are up to speed?!

I remember one summer ('97) when I just felt so bloated and fat in the belly...and then, mid August, the 10cm endometrial cyst on my right ovary ruptured and filled my belly with blood. Oh. Maybe it was that big, blood-filled cyst in my mid-section! No wonder the crunches weren't doing much! Asthma....pulmonary embolus...my goodness. How odd that you were satting at 100%. What an amazing compensatory ability you have. That mouthful of blood may have been the best thing that could've happened for you. That has a way of getting one's attention!
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The Green Hornet is at the LBS, getting a new Serfas tri saddle and aero bars put on! I am so psyched to ride her tomorrow. I'm going to pick her up, ride downtown, donate blood, renew my driver's license, sit around drinking fluids and eating lunch for awhile, then go for a spin. Nothing too hard because I'll be down a pint, AND I start a 24 hr call shift tomorrow night. But still. To "go aero" on my own bike. Wow. I must be something like an athlete! ;)

[crazycanuck]

I'm knackered kids...

Due to june 30th end of fin year, we started at 6am today...:eek: I knew i needed energy so what does this crazycanuck do...I left my house at 440am to go for an 1hr ride bf work...Why..err..why not...I worked on speed...

What's even funnier is when i went to have a shower at work i realized...no bra...so i had to keep my cycling bra on..oh well...At least i had underwear & socks......

Anywho, i am knackered...We finished at 5pm..freakin good thing we get paid for overtime!!!

I really wanted to go for a ride tonight but i highly doubt i'd be 100% awake & alert...I'm going for another ride tomorrow am & hopefully tomorrow night...

Bring on the weekend...the dirt awaits...
c

[Brina]

I must be something like an athlete! ;)


something like that.

have fun on those aero bars.

I don't know if you are on Turin Cycles mailing list, but next Sat - the 8th - they are having a big sale. According to the postcard there will be supplier reps there with items they don't normally keep in stock. Sounds like some fun toys will be available. I have to take my bike up to WI to rack it for the danskin the next day, but I am going to try to check the sale out as well.

[Lise]

CC, hang on for the weekend!

Brina, thanks for the heads up about Turin. I'm not on their mailing list anymore, but I'll go to their website. I think I can get up there on the 8th.

You would think I was being poked with sharp sticks. My doc ordered a fasting cholesterol panel about, oh, say, 6 months ago! I just never, never leave the house without eating. I went to see her for something else recently (all's well), and she said, "I never got those results". That would be because I never gave them the blood....finally went and did it today. Oooh, oooh, faint with hunger, can barely drive....:rolleyes:

Due to nervousness about the date last night, I had eaten, essentially, a piece of salmon, a few lettuce leaves, and (when I got home) 6 Thin Mints (the last of the Girl Scout thin mints). So, at 4 AM, I'm up and STARVING! I ate a fat free yogurt...I figured...it won't affect the cholesterol...then had my blood drawn at 8:15. If the numbers are all wonky, I can blame it on the yogurt. :p

[DrBee]

Lise - you bad girl! 4 hours of fasting - I'm thinking that's not going to do it. Hopefully you're levels will be perfect and it won't matter anyway ;)

I ran this morning (first time in over a week) and felt good. My knees were talking to me a bit too much when I started. I told them to quiet down and away I went. My next chance to ride is probably going to be Sat morning. I can't wait!!! The last time I rode was a week ago. Whatever was wearing me out seems to have subsided. Now - if only I'd get the call about the job!!!!! Every time my phone rings, my heart skips a beat!

[Nanci]

Something really bad to eat before getting your chloesterol checked is lo mein!! That raises the total by like 100 points! (I know this from being a blood donor).

Lise, was it hard for you and your date to recognize each other?

My 200k Saturday, the super torture hill ride, is 133 miles, not 124...

[Lise]

Something really bad to eat before getting your chloesterol checked is lo mein!! That raises the total by like 100 points! (I know this from being a blood donor).

Lise, was it hard for you and your date to recognize each other?

My 200k Saturday, the super torture hill ride, is 133 miles, not 124...
Yeah, I know, 4 hr is not "fasting". But I'm special, don't'cha know? I am hoping that the numbers will be fine, and no further discussion until I balk at fasting again one year from now. I just have to eat more real food the night before so I can sleep through the night.

On top of all that, I'm also caffeine deprived. It's a new thing prior to blood donation. Sheesh! I came home from my rigorous 4 hour fast/blood draw and ate 2 eggs scrambled with cheese and salsa, two tortillas, OJ, some almonds and walnuts, an over ripe banana (gag), and...oh, yeah, I had a Lara bar in the car on the way home. Anybody want state secrets? Deprive me of food for 6 hours, I'll spill all. Good thing our gov't has seen fit to keep me in the dark!

I'm going to pick up the Green Hornet, ride downtown, donate blood, and drink a BIG CUP OF STARBUCKS!

When I was up at 4 AM (eating yogurt), I googled my sister's name. She's a journalist, writes about a variety of things, personal to political. I was horrified to learn that people say mean, stupid things about her on their blogs! About my little sister! I was about ready to drive to Indiana and smack this one woman upside the head! My sister never tells me about these mean, stupid people, and I am glad I didn't know. I won't go looking again. I did find a sweet article she wrote about her best friend from childhood, who's an organic farmer...nobody wrote anything DUMB about THAT on their STUPID blog! Grrrrrrrrrrrr....don't mess with the siblings of the oldest, I'm telling you. How do the family of famous people take all the mean things folks say about their loved ones?
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Nanci, we recognized each other easily when he walked up to me and said, "Lise?" In describing himself, he hadn't mentioned the goatee. I would've mentioned that. Except, of course, that *I* don't have one. ;)
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133 miles of "super torture" does not sound good. You, however, are the woman for the job. Looking forward to hearing about it! L.

[Tater]

Doesn't tuna spike the cholesterol as well?

I really dislike moving and being without household items that I really need. Like a can opener!

[maillotpois]

Very descriptive story, MP. I especially liked the mouthful of blood in the car. Well, who'd have thunk it- I'm sure we have all learned something from your experience!

Do you mean you're a compulsive throat-clearer like that character Sarah Jessica Parker played in that recent movie I didn't see and can't remember the name of?

Nanci


Okay, Nanci - in a coincidence, DH and I watched that Sarah JP movie (I actually really can't stand her) because we wanted something light to watch after our "experience" (and the last thing we watched from On Demand was The Constant Gardener and that was TOTALLY not light).

So my throat clearing is very different from hers. Hers is compulsive in a prissy school-marmy way, with the sound never coming from anywhere but her throat.

Mine is different - think tuberculin ward. Mine actually resonates throughout my chest and lungs (especially in the morning when my lungs are really full of fluid). The fluid-y lungs have always been there - worse recently. I generally inhale a bunch of air to get "behind" the fluid before I do the throat clearing. So not prissy - gross!

[Lise]

Doesn't tuna spike the cholesterol as well?

I really dislike moving and being without household items that I really need. Like a can opener!
If it's high, I'll blame it on the salmon at 8 PM, and not the fat free cherry yogurt at 4 AM.

You seriously need a can opener. ----------------> TARGET! (any excuse :rolleyes: )

[maillotpois]

I remember one summer ('97) when I just felt so bloated and fat in the belly...and then, mid August, the 10cm endometrial cyst on my right ovary ruptured and filled my belly with blood. Oh. Maybe it was that big, blood-filled cyst in my mid-section! No wonder the crunches weren't doing much! Asthma....pulmonary embolus...my goodness. How odd that you were satting at 100%. What an amazing compensatory ability you have. That mouthful of blood may have been the best thing that could've happened for you. That has a way of getting one's attention!

Holy cow!! Blood filled cyst! Nice - isn't it amazing what we push through - and beat ourselves up for. You were all "fat" and I was all "stupid slow on the hills" and "out of shape". Crazy. The take away lesson is sometimes you don't need to beat yourself up and maybe there's something behind it?

Yeah the O2 sat at 100% really threw my doctor. Fortunately, she was persisten enough to order the d-dimer test as well just to make sure (which is the blood test that shows markers for PE) - and that test was what sent me to CT scan.

[Tater]

If it's high, I'll blame it on the salmon at 8 PM, and not the fat free cherry yogurt at 4 AM.

You seriously need a can opener. ----------------> TARGET! (any excuse :rolleyes: )

I know! What's worse is that I had specifically left out a few items NOT to be packed, the can opener, sandwich baggies, toilet paper, silverware, you know the essentials, until the movers delivered our stuff this coming Monday. Everything got packed except the tp and the silverware. I am certainly hitting Target after work for a darned can opener!

[Lise]

. My knees were talking to me a bit too much when I started. I told them to quiet down and away I went.
I know I'm lucky, fish, it's not my knees that talk back, it's my head. :rolleyes: L.

[maillotpois]

I know I'm lucky, fish, it's not my knees that talk back, it's my head. :rolleyes: L.

At least you're never lonely...

[Nanci]

I have to remember to e-mail you this guy's 600k report that was on- wait, you're on that randoneuring list with me, aren't you? Did you read it? Man, did it bring back memories!

Nanci

[maillotpois]

I'm on the list and read your response to it, which made me hang on to it. I usually read those right away but my inbox was so full after not checking that account for a few days that I might have deleted it otherwise - I still have to read it. Lucky I have some time on my hands....

[Nanci]

He sounded like he was in a poor mental state for much of the ride- and never seemed to really believe he would make it. He was already sounding bad by 5PM of the first day! Well, actually, he was sounding bad before the first Control...

Someone on there today had a quote, "If you don't think you can finish, [a brevet] don't start."

(He _does_ finish.)

My buddy I met for the June 200k that abandonned with only 30 miles to go or something is sounding like he isn't going to do the July ride. Too bad- I really had fun with him! I'm sharing a room with a local (from here) girl, but she rides just slightly faster than me. It was keeping up with her and her group that killed my knee on the 400k. Maybe she'll be hot and slow down some, though. She just bought a Bachetta, but isn't riding it- there are a ton of hills- including the same one going out, coming back, and then one more time in the going out direction- the biggest hill in the area! Plus the hill that they mentioned in the triathlon pre-race meeting about you'd better be in a low gear when you turn the corner or you're going to tip over, and the long hill I came the closest ever to vomiting while on the bike on. (Yeah, I bet that sentence construction is making some people cringe!)

I'll be halfway to the R-12 award when it's over, though!

Crap, so how long until you get to ride? Is crap a word that gets filtered out? I can't remember.

Hmmm. I wish the new saddle would get here so I can hate it.

[DrBee]

Mine is different - think tuberculin ward. Mine actually resonates throughout my chest and lungs (especially in the morning when my lungs are really full of fluid). The fluid-y lungs have always been there - worse recently. I generally inhale a bunch of air to get "behind" the fluid before I do the throat clearing. So not prissy - gross!

That sounds just lovely. I can't imagine Sarah JP making a sound like that, nah. Tuberculin ward. Great image!

Tater - my office neighbor is from Gooding (Southcentral Idaho he said). What town are you from?

Lise - your head might be talking, but at least you can run farther (that doesn't look right - is it further) :)

MP - I'm attaching a pic of FishJr holding the worm referred to in my sig. This was before the breakage.

Just found out the cert (list of quality candidates) was delivered to the research leader that is doing the hiring, by our Area Director. Sooooooo hopefully I'll hopefully hear something within a week or so about an interview. Aargh. Now I'm really going to jump when I hear the phone ring. :eek:

[DrBee]

Hmmm. I wish the new saddle would get here so I can hate it.

Now that's positive thinking ;)



I didn't think that pic was going to come out so big!

[Nanci]

That kid looks like she needs a cornsnake! I have the best picture of my daughter Kelly sitting on her white plastic potty chair, in the middle of the woods, about age 3 or 4, holding a garter snake up like a banner over her head. It's so cute. She wouldn't put it down for anything. Luckily, they aren't quite as breakable as worms.

[maillotpois]

Fish -

OMG - that picture is fantastic!!! She is SO cute. Wow.

We'll be waiting for the phone along with you.

Nanci -

Crap doesn't get filtered, but **** - as in **** Cheney - does. I don't know when I can ride again. Not for at least 2 weeks for clot reasons, and then the rest will depend on how the anti coagulants are working and whether i want to risk exsanguination by riding my bike (I do crash). I think there are a lot of spin classes in my future. :mad:

[Nanci]

Good thing **** Cheney isn't on this forum, then, because he couldn't even sign his name. I wonder if it catches it if it's in the middle of a string of letters, like unpre****table...

[Nanci]

I wonder if it catches it if you intersperse the letters with a symbol: *d*i*c*k*

[Nanci]

Woo hoo!! (Only 18 more minutes of time to kill at "work.")

[maillotpois]

Ri****ulous....

Did it work??

I love it when you guys are bored while I am on bedrest, by the way!!!

[DrBee]

When that pic was taken (a year ago) she probably would've liked to hold a cornsnake. Now - she yells "eek" if I try to get her to touch a frog. Her curiosity gets the best of her though and she will eventually touch them. I've shown her everything from a narrowmouthed toad to a big 'ol southern toad. There's hope :) The only snakes in my hard are garter snakes - I think FishJr would not appreciate getting musked. Now FishFry (Ben - age 2) - he would probably love it. Boys - aargh! They saw a 5-lined skink when we were in Knoxville and chased the poor thing all over the place. No "eek" on that one!

[DrBee]

Ok - my turn.....Pre****tions


We are at the height of maturity today, aren't we???

My keyboard is wigging out. I have to perio****ally (hee hee) flip it over so it will stop skipping letters and not letting me type! (It's wireless)

[DrBee]

Woo hoo!! (Only 18 more minutes of time to kill at "work.")

I still have about an hour...

MP - when do you go back to work? How are you feeling, anyway?

[Nanci]

MP, maybe you'd have fun at http://www.m-w.com You can make it pronounce anything! My favorite is "cloaca."

Nanci

[Grog]

This is where you girls have been hiding...

I never checked this thread before. Maybe I shouldn't have...

[Nanci]

I don't know why garter snakes have to be so free with the musk...When I was a kid, though, I didn't mind. Now I get peed on my Buttercup all the time- but Koko has never done it. BC is developing a longer tolerance of being carried before peeing, though, and will sometimes even let me touch her head. Koko just hangs out of his shell and lets me hold him as long as I want. There is some kind of solid sandy substance in BC's urine. I read what it is, once, but can't remember. At least it doesn't smell!

[Nanci]

Oh Grog- you have to start at the beginning and catch up!! But mostly we talk about birds, wine and Lise's dates.

Nanci

[Nanci]

This is how we keep the other threads relatively drift-free.

Time to go home!!

[DrBee]

Nanci - you forgot chocolate :)

Hey Grog - now you'll be drawn to come back. It is a good way to get the drift out of your system.

[DrBee]

I don't know why garter snakes have to be so free with the musk...When I was a kid, though, I didn't mind. Now I get peed on my Buttercup all the time- but Koko has never done it. BC is developing a longer tolerance of being carried before peeing, though, and will sometimes even let me touch her head. Koko just hangs out of his shell and lets me hold him as long as I want. There is some kind of solid sandy substance in BC's urine. I read what it is, once, but can't remember. At least it doesn't smell!


Uric acid? Or is a separte component? My herp teacher would be po'd at me for no knowing. It's been a few years...

[Lise]

Oh Grog- you have to start at the beginning and catch up!! But mostly we talk about birds, wine and Lise's dates.

Nanci
Don't forget chocolate! We also talk about chocolate!

Can't believe you never saw us goofing off over here, Grog! C'mon in. You do have to start at the beginning, though. Only 1,035 posts to plow through. You can skip the ones about wine, as I do. Unless you can drink wine like a normal person, in which case, you might really learn something! :p

I love the word "cloaca". At the conference in Utah, I picked up a chicken & hen measuring tape. For measuring the pregnant ladies' bellies and making their bigger kids laugh. You pull out the tape by pulling the egg away from the chicken. Return it to the cloaca by pushing a button on its belly. (You know I'm tired from being up at 4, riding downtown, donating blood, riding home...when I can't remember if that's the "ITS" that gets an apostrophe or no. I'm living on the edge here.

Yeah, Nanci, that "on the bike on" sentence got me to reread it aloud a couple of times!

Poor **** Cheney. Never to see his true name on the TE board.

Fishjr! TOO CUTE! Thanks for the picture!

[Grog]

Don't forget chocolate! We also talk about chocolate!

Can't believe you never saw us goofing off over here, Grog! C'mon in. You do have to start at the beginning, though. Only 1,035 posts to plow through. You can skip the ones about wine, as I do. Unless you can drink wine like a normal person, in which case, you might really learn something! :p

I love wine and chocolate and procrastinating.

I definitely shouldn't have opened this Pandora thread!!

[SadieKate]

At the conference in Utah, I picked up a chicken & hen measuring tape. For measuring the pregnant ladies' bellies and making their bigger kids laugh. You pull out the tape by pulling the egg away from the chicken. Return it to the cloaca by pushing a button on its belly.Me, too! I also have the cow tape where you pull its tail. Too bad it doesn't moo at the same time.

I also have a tiny fly reel tape from Orvis. I guess this means I have a collection of measuring tapes.

[Lise]

Me, too! I also have the cow tape where you pull its tail. Too bad it doesn't moo at the same time.

I also have a tiny fly reel tape from Orvis. I guess this means I have a collection of measuring tapes.
No way! I did not see the cow one! Now I covet it! Heck, SK, you're well on your way to being a midwife!

Has anybody else noticed how SK's "Lizard Time" lizard seems to be doing the "Hammer Time" dance, as first danced by MC Hammer? Hmmmmm?

Grog, if you like procrastinating, you've found your home right here. ;)

[SadieKate]

The Cow
http://www.cottonpatchfabrics.com/cgi-bin/Store/store.cgi?cart_id=8570216.28527.s0&product=notions&productid=notion_cow_tape_measure&sales=0&lastmenu=

The Doggie and his bone
http://www.cottonpatchfabrics.com/cgi-bin/Store/store.cgi?cart_id=8570216.28527.s0&product=notions&productid=notions_tape_measure_doggie&sales=0&lastmenu=

Pinocchio
http://www.cottonpatchfabrics.com/cgi-bin/Store/store.cgi?cart_id=8570216.28527.s0&product=notions&productid=ntions_tape_measure_pinocchio&sales=0&lastmenu=

The Chicken
http://www.cottonpatchfabrics.com/cgi-bin/Store/store.cgi?cart_id=8570216.28527.s0&product=notions&productid=notion_chicken_tape_measure&sales=0&lastmenu

I think I'll stick my knitting.

BTW, how many of you know the measurement of your handspan? 8". Comes in very handy. This was probably on V's silly measurement thread.

[maillotpois]

Oh my - I go upstairs to have lunch with a friend and I come back to another page and a half - what have I missed!! DH had to call me because I was "away" for so long on the instant messenger that he started to worry that I'd expired. THis won't last.

Nanci I can't wait to check out that web site!!

Chocolate! DH brought me a dark chocolate Peets/Scharffenberger bar to the hospital. I only at one square yesterday - Maybe it is time for #2.

Wine - I now have conflicting reports as to whether I should drink while on anticoagulants. Grr. I think 1 - 2 glasses of wine probably are okay but that goes on the list of things to talk to the doctor about next week.

[maillotpois]

I still have about an hour...

MP - when do you go back to work? How are you feeling, anyway?


Okay - but I took the dog in to the doggy bathhouse and then went to whole foods to get some sparkling water and became aware that I had chest pains. SO I decided maybe I should actually DO the bed rest thing and went home and asked my mother in law to pick up the dog from the bath place.

Back to work next week. Theoretically I could be working right now but this is much more fun.

[SadieKate]

Chocolate! DH brought me a dark chocolate Peets/Scharffenberger bar to the hospital. I only at one square yesterday - Maybe it is time for #2.
I gotta try a Freddo.

Hmm, maybe on off bike field trip to the Scharffen Berger factory? I keep trying to recruit people but it never seems to happen. When did the doctor think you'd be back on your feet regularly?

[maillotpois]

Well, I think my doctor would let me go to Scarffenberger even if I was supposed to still be on bed rest.

Funny "on your feet" story: right after I was admitted to the hospital they wanted me to go down for an echocardiogram, and so I march out past the attendant who was going to take me, right past the gurney in the hall - and I look back, like "What? You expect me to lie down for this?" Apparently they didn't so much want me running up and down the halls of the hospital. What-ever.

[DrBee]

I mean really! What were they thinking??? Did you tell them that you've ridden your bike a gazillion miles and done an altitude camp with PE. Surely a little stroll down the hall wouldn't hurt you, right ;)

SK - love the new avatar (I've been meaning to tell you that) and the line. I'm still on my search for a new avatar.

[maillotpois]

That's what I figured, fish. Plus, before I was "summoned" to the CT scan, I'd driven 2 hours to a court hearing in San Jose where I had to park 3 blocks away and walk (no biggie) to court to argue my motion, and then drove back to the office. Like, what's the big deal??

[Nanci]

Geez, if you'd lived with it for three weeks, what's another couple block's walk?

I am making farfale or something, with parmesan and some other hard sharp cheese and capers for my pre-ride breakfast on Saturday.

Plus I am bringing Mojo bars and extra sharp "reserve" cheddar, and Jelly Belly Sport Beans, though not nearly enough, and Endurance Gatorade, and strawberry milk for on the bike.

You don't want to know what I'm bringing for on the drive down...

Every time I reboot, or re-open Firefox, I get to listen to Randall what's his name from Bonny Doone.

MP, I think it might be dangerous to suddenly stop drinking wine.

Lise, did you go make the lady on m-w say "cloaca" yet? We have a higher-than-normal density of cloacas in my household. I am not one of them.

I actually x-rayed a kid with a cloaca a few weeks ago...

I wish TE sold a wider variety of Terry clothing.

I am very curious about their newest shorts.

Not that I don't love the Sugoi RS Flexes.

I am anxious to see how they do on their first big ride Saturday, though.

Ok, have to go drain pasta.

I am kicked out of the computer room, because BF has his friend over, doing music stuff.

[maillotpois]

Geez, if you'd lived with it for three weeks, what's another couple block's walk?

This is my point!!


MP, I think it might be dangerous to suddenly stop drinking wine.

No kidding!! And I got the lady to say cloaca. I did not know what that was before. I feel so much smarter now!!

[Nanci]

Oooh, my farfalle turned out well. I put butter in it, and the cheese, and capers, and sun-dried tomatoes. Hope it's good cold!

[Nanci]

http://asap.ap.org/stories/693235.s

This is a podcast of my friend Chase in a 100 mile running race. Listen to him!

Nanci

[Trek420]

1,049 posts
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have we passed the getting to know you thread yet?

[Lise]

MP, maybe you'd have fun at http://www.m-w.com You can make it pronounce anything! My favorite is "cloaca."

Nanci
Where do I click to make it talk?

10 to 1 views to posts. At first I thought that was creepy, like people were lurking and spying on us. Then I realized that there are probably 10 of us reading each post!

[SadieKate]

Well, I think my doctor would let me go to Scarffenberger even if I was supposed to still be on bed rest.Your doctor want to go also? We can even arrange private tours. You suppose petitepois could be talked into this?

http://www.scharffenberger.com/factory.asp

We could probably even find other TE'ers who want to go. :p

[SadieKate]

10 to 1 views to posts. At first I thought that was creepy, like people were lurking and spying on us. Then I realized that there are probably 10 of us reading each post!I'm wearing out my mouse trying to maintain the ratio. You sure are talkative.

[snapdragen]

We could probably even find other TE'ers who want to go. :p

And we would be leaving when??????:D

[maillotpois]

Your doctor want to go also? We can even arrange private tours. You suppose petitepois could be talked into this?

http://www.scharffenberger.com/factory.asp


She only likes dark chocolate, so yeah!

[SadieKate]

Scharffen Berger Extra Dark = bliss.

Don't pollute my chocolate with anything. OK, maybe a little port on the side.

[KnottedYet]

x-raying a cloaca...

Had a patient once flipping out about transexual surgery and intersex surgeries and such while she was on ice (it was mentioned in some article she was reading or something.)

I asked if she knew who Jamie Lee Curtis was... well, yeah, of course. Well, she's one of "those" people, and genetically male.

Lightbulb went on. Patient will be kinder in the future.

(I looooooooved that Jamie Lee Curtis addressed Congress on the intersex issue. You go, girl!) (it was about babies being "assigned" female because the surgery to make a female is cheaper and easier than to make a male, and insurance, and not letting kids choose for themselves, and such.)

[salsabike]

We lurkers aren't scary, just easily amused. I find this thread SO entertaining!


Lise quote: 10 to 1 views to posts. At first I thought that was creepy, like people were lurking and spying on us. Then I realized that there are probably 10 of us reading each post![/QUOTE]

[kelownagirl]

I've been "lurking" on this thread trying to figure out exactly what it was... I was ready to pipe up on the wine talk but couldn't quite figure out if that really was the topic or not... Thanks for elaborating....

I was anxious to find out how Lise's date went... I guess this thread is kinda like a soap opera...

barb

[Lise]

I don't mean TE lurkers, I mean....outsiders :eek: :p

TE lurkers are just gals who haven't posted here yet! About the date...when I say MWBR, I just mean that we'll probably see each other again, and see where it goes from there! I've had first dates in which the guy seemed absolutely enchanted with me and then...three days later...in the wind. So, what do I know? MWBR.

How did thread drift start, anyway? Eagle babies? Wine? Chocolate? Something now lost in the mist of time, yet easily found by clicking on p1 of the thread?

And...I'm off to work. L.

[Nanci]

There _is_ no topic. Or rather, the topic can be whatever you want, and if anyone has anything to add, they can, but you can't get in trouble for drifting or completely changing the topic! I don't remember what set this off; some other triathlon thread got changed into something completely different from the title, maybe bog snorkeling or something, so I started this thread to just explain how, in a mailing list, that is usually handled, not saying that we should do that here- just saying. And I _know_ I am the drifter with the most offenses.

The patient I x-rayed who had a cloaca was a kid. It was weird, actually, there were a couple of them that week, and I went 20 years before that without having run into it.

I work at a hospital that does a lot of cutting edge surgeries on babies- like congenital diaphragmatic hernia. Diagnosed in utero, the baby has a slim chance of survival without surgery- but we get moms here all the time!!! from as far away as New Mexico, who were told by their OB that the baby was going to die, nothing to be done about it, but the parents don't give up, and look on the Internet, and find us, and come here, and we fix it!!

You know what this thread is kind of like, remember the eagle babies :-( On that forum, there was a thread called Egg Turning Frequency, which if you weren't familiar with the forum, wouldn't think was important, but it was the first place all the eagle-watchers checked in, and got to know each other, and talked about everything. It was _huge_.

That was one of the saddest things, when the dad broke the last egg. I hate to say it, but I think it's going to be one of those moments in history where everyone who saw it live remembers what they were doing at the time, where they were...And they were just two little birds who captured the hearts of millions of people all over the world.

[Brina]

(I looooooooved that Jamie Lee Curtis addressed Congress on the intersex issue. You go, girl!) (it was about babies being "assigned" female because the surgery to make a female is cheaper and easier than to make a male, and insurance, and not letting kids choose for themselves, and such.)

Knotted, do you have more info or a link about this?

[Nanci]

It seems to me that, if you had to pick one or the other, whichever surgery was more likely to be successful/natural/functional would be the best.

It also seems like way too much responsibility for a kid to have to choose!

[DrBee]

Geez y'all were quite talkative last night and early this morning!

Okay Nanci - I'm not getting the whole cloaca thing. How can a kid have a cloaca? I have not heard of this, I don't think I have anyway.

salsabike and kelownagirl - good to see you finally posting on here. This has become the first place we check for some of us. As Lise put it - it's kind of like "home". Hope to see you more!

I slept in this morning! Fridays I drive myself (carpool the other days), because I usually only work 1/2 day. I know I'm getting up early tomorrow to ride a long ride and them my mom and stepdad are coming into town late Sat night. So - sleep sleep this morning. I was going to get up early and run. FishJr came in our room in the middle of the night talking about a scary dream she had about orange bumble bees with long pointy stingers. At least she willingly went back to bed after telling us about the dream. Surely that could've waited until the morning ;)

[Trek420]

Nanci "It seems to me that, if you had to pick one or the other, whichever surgery was more likely to be successful/natural/functional would be the best."

ahhh gender issues, it's complex but not the same as "well it would be easier to die your hair red than to go blonde" :)

While I have no gender issues myself, I enjoy being a girl (everybody sing!) but I understand that for those who do it's something they know and very young and just kinda know in their bones. Anybody see Tales of the City? thinking of the Olympia Dukakis carachter.

"It also seems like way too much responsibility for a kid to have to choose!"

Usually quite young the kid is just going to know. And if assigned the "wrong" gender because it was easier to do it's very tough on the kid and throughout their life.

I can imagine, I like guys, really I do but I would not want to be one....except when out on a ride and nowhere near a porta pottie, bathroom or any civilisation it would be nice to just be able to find a tree.

Other than that, would not want to be a guy. ::: sings::: I enjoy being a girl.

But OMG, I don't care what Jamie Lee Curtis genetic makeup is she is soooo hot.

Speaking of hot, temps are high here, but going to bike to work.

Nanci, that is so cool that you can help these kids. If you are sucessful where other places these kids die, why don't more Dr's and hospitals don't know about your success rate and get these cases to you?

Oh never mind, probably all insurance/money.

[Nanci]

It's when the child has the urethra, vagina and rectum all meeting together with only one external opening.

Mmm, port. I like the Florida native-grape port a lot, and am hoarding a bottle of "real" port that I bought at a wine tasting.

[DrBee]

Yup - that would be a cloaca. I don't think I've heard of that in humans. That's great that your hospital can help babies/kids in need with nowhere else to go! That must be a good feeling to work there!

[Nanci]

This is one of my all-time favorite books on CD: http://tinyurl.com/mxzmb

Trans-Sister Radio.

The bestselling author of Midwives and The Law of Similars continues his tradition of incorporating social issues into his moving narratives. Transsexuality goes mainstream in this Scarlet Letter for a softer, gentler but more complicated age. Allison Banks--42 years old, heterosexual, long divorced, mother of a college student and a grade school teacher in a picturesque Vermont village--meets single, attractive, attentive, 35-year-old Dana Stevens when she takes his film class at a nearby college. Early on in the relationship, Dana confesses that he has always believed he was female, though he desires women, too--and he is soon to undergo a long-planned sex change operation. Despite this revelation, and despite her reservations, Allison invites Dana to move in with her, and they have great sex right up until the night before the operation in Colorado, where Allison has loyally accompanied Dana for post-op and moral support. On their return to Vermont, he--now physically and emphatically "she"--continues to share Allison's bed and her house, though nothing can be the same as it was. Allison's ex-husband, Vermont Public Radio president Will, now her good friend, and their daughter, Carly, cope well with the situation, but the close-knit community is less understanding. Questions of what constitutes community tolerance are explored here, but the novel's central focus is on the definition of sex and gender in the characters' personal lives. Allison, Dana, Carly and Will express their views in alternating first person chapters, and transcripts from a fictional NPR All Things Considered series on Dana and her operation provide additional narrative background. Gender is central to who we are, Bohjalian concludes, but not perhaps to who we love. Sex, on the other hand, expresses who we are. Bohjalian's sometimes simplistic characterizations diminish the emotional impact of the novel, and his abundant research on gender dysfunction often gives the book a curiously flat, documentary quality. Nevertheless, Bohjalian humanizes the transsexual community and explains the complexities of sex and gender in an accessible, evenhanded fashion, making a valuable contribution to a dialogue of social and political import.

[Lise]

Gender is central to who we are, Bohjalian concludes, but not perhaps to who we love. Sex, on the other hand, expresses who we are.
Indeed.

And where else, but "Thread Drift", would you post that on a cycling board? Long live TE/TD!

[Nanci]

Have you read the book "Midwives?" That was the first Bohjalian book I read.

Nanci

[Grog]

You know what this thread is kind of like, remember the eagle babies :-( On that forum, there was a thread called Egg Turning Frequency, which if you weren't familiar with the forum, wouldn't think was important, but it was the first place all the eagle-watchers checked in, and got to know each other, and talked about everything. It was _huge_.

Funny thing is, last time I checked, they still were using this thread title for their own "thread drift", which is funny because the eggs are... well, not eggs anymore. (Quite a bit of jumping around yesterday, by the way...)

[Trek420]

I missed the eggs not being eggs anymore. Why would eagle-dad do that? :(

Long live TE/TD, chocolate, wine and living through Lises date life (well actually hope you meet someone and no longer date....'cept for date-nite).

[Nanci]

Well, the eggs were apparently not fertile, so were rotting the whole time, and one morning one was broken, and in the dark you could see mom disposing of it, then, a few days later, dad was sitting on the remaining egg, and stood up, and moved it around, and it broke. He sat back on it a few times, but eventually mom came back, and they both knew it was not right, and threw the bits out of the nest. Dad, in particular, looked so (yes, anthropomorphic) heartbroken when he realized it was over.

There are tribute videos/slideshows- heart-wrenching. Also Sound Guy's story.

Nanci

[Nanci]

But then they moved the camera to a new nest and all was well after everyone got adjusted to the new babies.

[KnottedYet]

Google failure....

Boy, I think I'd suck as a librarian when I can't even find what I'm looking for on Google. I found a ton of blogs, referring to her telivised interview about being intersex (but no links to the interview) and her address to congress (but no links to THAT) but none to the article in Newsweek or Time or whatever about intersex kids that I read which first pointed her out to me.

I don't think she addresses it in her kids books about adoption (she and Christopher Guest adopted their kids, obviously) and I don't know if she's ever written about it. Just interviews.

There are also some pretty funny comments about snopes.com claiming she's an urban legend... don't believe everything you read on the internet!

I'm gonna try one more time, but then I've gotta get ready for work.

[Nanci]

I thought Snopes said her parents refused to comment.

[Nanci]

Yikes! My last patient was a 23-weeker born June 22! What a puny little thing! Cystoconray enema caused expulsion of a meconium plug a good 8-10 inches long! I bet he feels better now!

My co-worker is taking home a couple of his left-behind diapers for her daughter's baby doll, but is afraid they are way too small.

I can't believe how easily the nurses handle those tiny babies- I'd be so nervous.

Nanci

[KnottedYet]

I'm going nuts trying to find this! It wasn't her parents who commented, it was her. (as an adult, and in the last few years) I didn't see the video of her address to congress, but they showed a picture of her at the podium, and remarked on how shocked the politician were.

Dang, dang, dang!

[Lise]

Yikes! My last patient was a 23-weeker born June 22! What a puny little thing! Cystoconray enema caused expulsion of a meconium plug a good 8-10 inches long! I bet he feels better now!
Nanci
Dang, that's young. When I started in nursing, 18 years ago, we didn't consider 23 weekers viable. 8-10" meconium, the kid can't be much longer than that himself! Poor little boo-boo. He's got a long road ahead of him.

By contrast, I just delivered a 9# girl! More muscular than fat.

I did not read Midwives. It pisses me off when a work of fiction with a midwife character comes to represent all midwifery practice in the general public's mind (if such a thing can be said to exist). When that book was popular, I spent plenty of time explaining that, no, I don't do c-sections on the kitchen table (with a kitchen knife) in a blizzard when I think the patient is already dead. At the time, I was involved in a law suit (since resolved in our favor--ie, the judgement was that I did nothing wrong), and the thought of reading a fictionalized version made my skin crawl.

The most accurate fictional representation of hospital-based midwifery I've read is an older book called Delivery. A bit dramatic, but then, who would want to read about the time we spend sitting around at 2 AM eating junk food and commenting on Flava-Flav's outrageousness on TV? Sisters On A Journey is a collection of essays by midwives about their work. It's a good read, if you want to get a sense of the wide range within my profession.

I really feel for the little human beings with cloacas. Impressive that they can do intrauterine surgery to repair a diaphramatic hernia. Scary when they're born with an undiagnosed d.h. Everything shoved over to one side of the chest and can't expand the lungs. So far (knock wood), I've only seen one of those.

[Lise]

Long live TE/TD, chocolate, wine and living through Lise's date life (well actually hope you meet someone and no longer date....'cept for date-nite).
Thanks, Trek! Me too! I would really like to be dating someone, not just going on a series of dates with a series of guys.

I realized that I was so attracted to photo guy because he reminded me of some good qualities of my ex... alas, perhaps I reminded him of some bad qualities of someone else! As it turns out, his "Stay in touch" really does mean "I'll never be in touch with you again"! See? Who needs a universal translator?!

[maillotpois]

Yikes! My last patient was a 23-weeker born June 22! What a puny little thing! Cystoconray enema caused expulsion of a meconium plug a good 8-10 inches long! I bet he feels better now!

My co-worker is taking home a couple of his left-behind diapers for her daughter's baby doll, but is afraid they are way too small.

I can't believe how easily the nurses handle those tiny babies- I'd be so nervous.

Nanci

How do you fit 8 - 10 inches of meconium plug into such a little creature??

[Lise]

How do you fit 8 - 10 inches of meconium plug into such a little creature??
I thought the same, but, then again, how do you fit miles of intestines into us?

How're you feeling today, MP?

[DrBee]

yeah MP - how are you feeling today? I keep thinking about you. I would imagine you're going to be itching to get on that bike soon.

Lise - is there a next date with the blind date guy?

We're having a weird day at work today. A technician was fired (during his 1 yr probationary period). He's a slow worker, but his supervisor didn't exactly do the best job of supervising him either. The supervisor is totally paranoid and hid his boat so that the guy wouldn't sabotage it. He has kept his office door locked all day and is being really twitchy. I've never met a person that is truely paranoid - until now. Luckily, he's left for the day. Aargh! I'm going home soon.

[maillotpois]

Hey thanks for askin'! I feel okay - had to go for some blood work this morning.

What is going to be weird is my now heightened sense of paranoia and sensitivity about what's going on in my body. I hope that subsides. But I started getting these bad abdominal cramps and I'm thinking - crud, I'm bleeding out or there's another clot or....!!! :eek: But then I remembered I had to take out my Nuva ring at the hospital and guess what - I'm starting my period. So they were just cramp-cramps. :rolleyes:

I think getting the Petite Pois back from camp tomorrow (she's been gone 2 weeks) will return a sense of normalcy to things.

[DrBee]

It's probably best that she wasn't around while all of this was going on. That would've been tough on her.

[SadieKate]

What is going to be weird is my now heightened sense of paranoia and sensitivity about what's going on in my body. I hope that subsides. Very normal. Eventually you learn to find a middle ground . . . or go cuckoo.:D

[Lise]

Lise - is there a next date with the blind date guy?

Yeah, fish, I don't know. He said he'd call Friday, which is today. At this moment, I do not care. I was stupid yesterday to ride, donate blood, ride, play volleyball. Started a 24 call shift last night. Thank the universe that the first page I got was 5:12 AM, so I slept for 6.5 hr. Came in, delivered the baby, saw some other ladies. I have a migraine on the right side of my head. The pain is not too bad, as they go, but the pressure and photophobia are bugging me. When the nurse turned on the spotlight for the birth, I could not stand it. I had her turn it off until I was stitching the lady up, and then just enough light to see what I was doing.

I just ate a bag of peanut M&Ms and took 3 motrin. I have Maxalt at home, but it makes me dizzy. If I don't get any more pages in the next hour or so, I'm going to go home. Take my chances. I don't live too far away. On call until 10P. Funny how unimportant a date becomes when my head hurts!

[snapdragen]

Yikes! My last patient was a 23-weeker born June 22! What a puny little thing! Cystoconray enema caused expulsion of a meconium plug a good 8-10 inches long! I bet he feels better now!
Nanci

Isn't meconium like fetal/newborn poop? OWWWWIE - poor guy.

[DrBee]

Lise - yeesh that sounds like a doosy of a headache. I hope you feel better before you have another delivery.

Why is it that men never seem to get migraines? I've never heard a man complain about a migraine. Odd.

[DrBee]

Oh yeah - Mr. Fish said that he read today that wholesale gas prices went up $0.30 today. Get gas now before prices at the pump go up even more.

[DirtDiva]

My bro gets bad migraines - vomiting, dizziness, absolute intolerance of light, the lot. He doesn't get them very often these days, but he had them quite a lot when he was a teenager.

[SadieKate]

I know plenty of men who have migraines and cause migraines.

Men also get cluster headaches.

[maillotpois]

I know plenty of men who have migraines and cause migraines.

Men also get cluster headaches.


And they have been known to cause/be part of cluster-****s.

[Lise]

And they have been known to cause/be part of cluster-****s.
(chuckling) Took me a minute to parse out what the *s might be for!

I came home and took the Maxalt, put an ice pack on my head, am feeling so much better. I got paged 6 times in the past hour...makes night call look a lot better. Just a lot of end of the day at the end of the week kind of calls.

Maxalt is such a good drug for me. Tylenol, Motrin, caffeine were not touching it. Within a half-hour of taking Maxalt, it's like someone opened a tap and drained out the pain and pressure. That side of my head/neck feels kind of numb, but not bad. No more pain. No more wanting to puke. No more light intolerance. ahhhh....good stuff.

The birth this morning had its comical aspects, in retrospect. The nurse sort of lost control of the lady's leg. She (the pt, not the RN) had an epidural. So at one point the lady's foot was resting on my back...the spotlight is piercing my brain through my right eyeball...I'm trying to pull out this slippery 9# girl while giving orders like, "Get the foot off my back! Turn off the light!" Not your typical birth talk. All was well, the baby's great, I did not get kicked in the head or ribs, and Maxalt is my friend.

Going back in to see another lady about a baby...5 more hours of call, but who cares, cuz my headache's gone! Fish, thanks for the heads up. I'll fill 'er up on my way back in. L.

[KnottedYet]

Just filled up at Costco, $3.09 for 92 octane. My car runs so much better on the higher octane that it's worth it for me. I'm new to this Costco thing, and totally made a fool of myself trying to put my card in the machine backwards. Nice attendant-guy had to help me out.

I was so embarrassed.

SKnot's report card came today. It sucks. He got a D in English. This is the kid who is a total bookworm and writes stories constantly. This is the kid who taught himself to read at age 4. He had an A- at midterm!

I wrote an email to the teacher asking what happened. I'm really hoping it is just an error, cuz if that is really his grade I'm gonna have to be mean. And it'll have to wait until September when school starts again. (no gameboy, no computer, no TV)

[maillotpois]

Glad the headache's gone!! OMG what a funny birth story. Sounds very Mel Brooks.

I have had a headache ever since starting on these stupid drugs. And I can't take anything for it (except Tylenol, and everyone knows that doesn't do anything!)!! Grr.

[maillotpois]

Crud, Knot - sorry about SKnot. That stinks. I hope it is a mistake.

[DrBee]

And they have been known to cause/be part of cluster-****s.

My mind totally went there, too :)

We did a massive picking up toys and vacuuming tonight - my mom arrives tomorrow night. FishJr hemmed and hawed at first, but eventually picked up most of the toys herself. Her brother, of course, dumped some of them back out. He lives to do that sort of stuff to her.

Tomorrow - I go for a relatively long ride. I'm still a bit twitchy and nervous (since the crash), but I'm looking forward to riding. MP - I'll be thinking of you. I hope your headache goes away soon. Hopefully having Petite pois back soon will help make things more normal. Have you told her what happened yet?

[crazycanuck]

Yikes! My last patient was a 23-weeker born June 22! What a puny little thing! Cystoconray enema caused expulsion of a meconium plug a good 8-10 inches long! I bet he feels better now!

My co-worker is taking home a couple of his left-behind diapers for her daughter's baby doll, but is afraid they are way too small.

I can't believe how easily the nurses handle those tiny babies- I'd be so nervous.

Nanci

Could you please tell me in plain english what happened???

[DrBee]

I'm baaaaaccckkkkk! At mile 20 today - my bike and I became reacquainted! I have my confidence back!!!!!! I was so nervous when I got on the bike today that I could barely adjust my sunglasses without wobbling. I told myself and the bike "enough already - we are a team - we need to be one". I've named her - did that before I left the garage. "Serenity". I wanted back the peacefulness that I used to feel when I rode before the crash. I felt it! :)

[kelownagirl]

"White rabbits" to you all... :p First day of my 65 days off without pay - I LOVE being a teacher...

barb, who's heading off to Edmonton this morning to visit the new inlaws for a week. Can't ride my lovely new road bike for a week... :( Hope to hear Lise has had a second date with Mr. Potential when I get back. Enough about the meconium plugs already - first time I read that, I thought it said 8 feet! LOL...

[Lise]

1. Rabbit, rabbit.

2. Meconium is fetal poop. Sometimes it takes awhile to get pooped out. Especially in very premature babies.

3. Bike date ---> movies with Mr. Potential (thanks for the name, k.g.) this afternoon.

4. Migraine all gone.

5. Fish + bike are one. Fish + bike repel all trucks.

6. Going for a run. Now. Really. See? I'm gone! :p

[DrBee]

I like "Mr. Potential" - I've been trying to come up with a name.

Good luck on the run Lise .... and the date! A bike date - COOL!

[Lise]

I like "Mr. Potential" - I've been trying to come up with a name.

Good luck on the run Lise .... and the date! A bike date - COOL!
Dang, it's too hot (80 deg) to run at 10 AM on a sunny day. Went 3.25 mi. Run, walk, etc. Did have fun with the water fountains, though, doing pushups or stretches at each one. Watched guys in wheelchairs practicing softball. There's a wheelchair softball park on the corner of Irving Park and California donated by the Chicago Cubs. These guys looked strong! Fun to watch for awhile. I'd like to watch a game.

And really, aren't they all Mr. Potential? I've decided that I want a guy who cares more about impressing me with how well he treats me than about impressing me with his car. Dang that stupid guy from last March, the ex-pro ball player with the Jaguar. I used to love Jags. Now they evoke a sneer. Perhaps I'll get back to a neutral appreciation. :rolleyes:

[SadieKate]

Ha! Bubba showed up for our first date with a Chevette he'd inherited from his dad. The Corvette sat in the garage because it couldn't carry the sailboards. Wouldn't you know, the Chevette broke down in the middle of nowhere and our first date turned into a 13 hour marathon. I've never seen anyone sweat so much that wasn't having either a medical crisis or doing manual labor in the sun. It turned out to be pure embarrassment.

Next time I saw him he had a new Subaru. The Corvette still sat in the garage because of the lack of sports equipment carrying capacity.

I love my "Vette" guy.:p

[DrBee]

It's 92F outside and what am I doing AFTER riding 31 miles this morning????? I'm using hedge trimmers to beat back the purple wintercreeper evil viney thing that is all over the place in the front of my house. I am sooo hot and sooo sweaty. Just thought I'd share :)

[Lise]

Along those lines, fish, I just cancelled the bike portion of the date. Still going to dinner and a movie, but it's 90 degrees, windy as ... well, Chicago, and looks like it's going to rain. My heart was pounding just getting the groceries in the car. It took me over an hour to cool down from the run. Let's not be stupid here...or any stupider than I usually am! :o So I called up the guy and said, "uh, let's not ride bikes today". Bless him, he was out putting the rack on his car, but readily agreed.

Y'all be careful with the heat.

SK, I'd love to hear the entire "First Date With Bubba" story. You were going sailboarding on your first date and the car broke down? You spent 13 hr trying to get to wherever? Tell!

[DrBee]

Sound like a good move, Lise. I hope you have a great night! I can't wait to hear how it goes.

We finished the yardwork - except for where the wasp nests were. They go away tonight, then I get to finish it up tomorrow. It went up to 97F today! Sport beans, cookies, and lots of water. FishJr was soooo good today - she sat under the pear tree in the shade working on her hidden pictures from Highlights magazine. She did that all afternoon while we were working in the yard! Then her brother woke up from his nap and they were singing songs to us.

Now... cleaning the house before mom gets here. T minus 4.5 hours. Yikes!

[maillotpois]

SK, I'd love to hear the entire "First Date With Bubba" story. You were going sailboarding on your first date and the car broke down? You spent 13 hr trying to get to wherever? Tell!


Hear hear! Do tell! We're waiting!!!

[maillotpois]

Lise - hope Mr. Potential is fun!

Fish - good luck on your ride tomorrow. Just take it easy and breathe. Odds are you've been "pre-disastered" (anyone see/read World According to Garp?), so some doofus soccer field obsessed person will not again cross the line and ride you off the road.

Picked up the PP from camp. Long drive but we stopped a couple of times. I found out my seats go totally flat so I ended up sleeping all the way home - as did the PP, who snores a LOT louder than I do!!

[snapdragen]

Did you see this :eek:

Tons 'o Twins (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060630/ap_on_fe_st/twelve_babies)

[Lise]

Did you see this :eek:

Tons 'o Twins (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060630/ap_on_fe_st/twelve_babies)
Wow. That is just freaky. I don't even think there's an emoticon for that one!

The date was nice. I can barely eat on these things, though. Can this be a weight loss strategy? When I come home and eat ice cream after? :rolleyes: Saw Superman, which was more fun than I expected. Fun talking with this guy....no huge fireworks...but potential, potential.

[DrBee]

That twin story is freaky! We have a lot of twins here in my town. I know a ton of people with twins. But I've never heard of so many being born at the same time! Wow!

Lise - glad to hear the date went well. Maybe even a spark? Maybe a bike ride will set off a nice chemical reaction???

Mom and stepdad arrived - 10:30pm. Kids stayed up to see them and I didn't get to bed until almost midnight. That's waaaaaaay past my bedtime. Then - kids (who were sleeping in same room together) woke up at 6:30am and of course woke us up.

MP - How's PP? Are you starting to feel better?

Nanci - how did the 200K go? I'm anxious to hear how you liked the shorts...

[Brina]

that twin story is freaky, but they are just becoming more and more common. I teach sunday school and in one class we have 3 sets (one set mine) and 1 set of virtual twins. According to a friend who works at IRI (information resources inc) the zip code just to the south of us has the highest rate of per capita twins in the nation.

[maillotpois]

Glad the date was good, Lise. Let's see if Mr. P lives up to his name.

Snap - the new signature line is fantastic.

Fish - I can't stay up past about 9 - 10 EVER. I am such an early to bed, early to rise!!

Feeling okay. More tired than usual. I think the drive to get the PP from camp was tiring. Slight chest pains, but nothing terrible. Headache from the medicine. Had to go get more blood drawn - I will have to do this every few days and then weekly probably while they figure out my dosage of the anti coagulants.

I have to start back to weight watchers regularly. While I only had 10 - 12 pounds to lose, now that I cannot exercise for 2 weeks and then am going to have to do something other than ride my bike 10 - 12 hours at a time, I am going ot have to be more diligent and monitor things. Maybe this is the time I actually knuckle down and lose that 10 - 12 so that when I can get back on the bike I start off at a better weight at least.

Sigh. The last time I took two weeks of the bike was almost exactly 2 years ago when we spent 2 weeks in France watching the Tour. The year before, we'd brought bikes and ridden a lot, but that year (04), we rented an RV and brought the PP and decided against bike for the hassle factor.

That was the year Jean Marie LeBlanc drove over my foot with his car.

[DrBee]

Brina - what is a virtual twin?

MP - How cool that you went to the Tour twice! What a great experience for PP. I'm glad you're not having terrible pains anymore. I hope they go away soon! Any prediction from the docs on how soon?

Bedtime for me - usually 10pm and no later. We'll probably be up late while they're here. We're having a good visit at least. FishJr and my mom are playing games right now in the kitchen. I'm heading into the living room to watch the Tour. I missed the last half this morning.

[Lise]

MP, hang in there. You'll have moments/days that are better/worse than others. Healing from anything usually takes twice as long as I think it should. Remember your body was working hard with this clot (s?) in there for awhile. Now it's working hard with medications. I honor you for that.

And, as aside, what a story to have your foot run over by one of the riders (? - I know so little) at the TdF!

Speaking of which, I have the most basic of cable, which means: Golf on two channels, TDF on no channels. GOLF?!? I ask you! :mad: :rolleyes:

Have fun with the family, fish! L.

[DrBee]

Golf????? That's just wrong!

[maillotpois]

My foot was run over by the head of the Tour de France, Jean Marie le Blanc who follows the lead riders in his red car.

We were 2k from the top of Plateau de Beille in the Pyrenees and I was on the inside bend of a corner near the top, crouching down because it was the professional photographers' corner and they'd invited me and the PP over there to get away from the mean basques and I wanted to get down out of their way. Well, I was crouching down, with PP on my knee, and Lance and Basso came by so fast and the car was right behind them and rolled over my foot and must have hit me because I fell back into a ditch! I was just glad the PP wasn't hurt, but it took us a LONG time to get back down the mountain - we had to meet someone in Carcassonne the next day - and meanwhile my foot was getting totally swollen, which was a little scary.... turned out to be okay, but it was a little scary.

[Lise]

Wow! What a great story! As long as no permanent damage to the foot. PP has a phenonmenal story to tell in school! How cool that the photogs invited you and the PP to hunker down with them.

I was really sorry to see that Thor was downed by some spectator's sign. Golf happens all summer long. Why not put the TDF on one channel instead?!?

[Brina]

fish, virtual twins are siblings not biologically related who are the same age. They could be step sibs, or one or both could be adopted. Some people in the adoption community refer to it as artificial twinning but I prefer the term virtual.

[DrBee]

Ah - okay, that makes sense. Virtual twins.

MP - WOW! That's scary getting knocked into a ditch and mean spectators. But what an awesome story! PP is a lucky girl (on lots of levels).

[KnottedYet]

Forgive me, Beer Gods, for I have sinned....

I dumped an O'Doul's (non alchohol) into the dregs of my glorious Red Hook ESB to make it last longer. (there's a very important reason I only buy ONE bottle of real beer at a time. sometimes I forget why. not good.)

I won't do it again, I promise. Sort of.

O'Doul's is pretty sad. Does anyone know a fake beer that tastes good? Preferably a red/bitter? The closest I've found is Kaliber by Bass, but that's on the pale side, too.

I worked for a while at Sparrow (the hospital with all the twins). Pretty cool to hear news of it after all these years.

[maillotpois]

MP - WOW! That's scary getting knocked into a ditch and mean spectators. But what an awesome story! PP is a lucky girl (on lots of levels).


She is. She'll understand it later, I am sure....

[Nanci]

Remember we were trying to think of the name of the white chalky sandy stuff in tortoise urine? Urates.

In other news, I am BEAT from my ride Saturday. I didn't put it with the July 1 rides, because it deserves its own story.

MWBR. Coincidentally, that phrase kept running through my head Saturday at odd moments.

[Lise]

In other news, I am BEAT from my ride Saturday. I didn't put it with the July 1 rides, because it deserves its own story.

MWBR. Coincidentally, that phrase kept running through my head Saturday at odd moments.
Nanci, looking forward to the ride report when you get it written. I agree it deserves a thread of its own.

"MWBR" runs through my head all the time.

I had a pretty quiet call shift, slept all night (except for 2-3 AM, who knows why :confused: ). The plan was to run and then take a long ride on the bike to really test out the new saddle and aero bars after I'm done doing rounds at the hosp. this AM.

Alas, I awoke to a torential downpour, lightning, and thunder. Looks like....swimming at the Y and running on the tread mill instead! I'm hoping to ride my bike out to my sister's (9 mi) for the 4th, but...well...mwbr, weather-wise.

[Nanci]

All I can say is, I know exactly how Denise felt at IM- I got to the first Control at exactly the cutoff time, and raced the clock all day, and got to the last Control, again, at exactly the cutoff- 13.5 hours. I have _never_ been in danger of missing a time cut off before!!!

Yeah, not as big a deal as IM, but, the 6th ride in a series of 12 to qualify me for the R-12 award next January- if I DQed, that means either find another 200k in July or it's all over. There is only one organized ride in Florida per month...

I HATE HATE HATE hills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[crazycanuck]

Hey ladies...

My workmates & I have recovered from the june 30th blues...Worked until 8pm on friday,ventured home & in bed by 830pm..up at 9am the next day! My weekend was a blob weekend but oh it felt nice! Good thing june 30th (and the week leading up to it) only happens once a year...

Anywho, would like to ask if i could do a trade with someone...I want to try the cliff blocks/shots/lara bars (whatever is the yummy kind) & would like to know if any of you ladies wouldn't mind. I've no clue what i''d trade or send you but we could work it out...:D

Finally getting some rain in perth but nowhere near enough for the farmers...we received 26mm of rain in june & the average is 170mm..!

c

[Lise]

Anywho, would like to ask if i could do a trade with someone...I want to try the cliff blocks/shots/lara bars (whatever is the yummy kind) & would like to know if any of you ladies wouldn't mind. I've no clue what i''d trade or send you but we could work it out...:D c
Hey, CC, glad to hear you survived 6/30/06. Since I've never been part of the Secret Sister thing, I'd be happy to be an Overt Sister with you, and send you some treats! Clif blocks are firm-jello consistency, Clif Shots are gel (and I'll throw in some Endurance/Accelerade gel that I have at home). I love the Lara bars, and I'll also send you a Maya bar (same company as Lara, but the bars are fruit/nut/chocolate). Let me know if you have flavor preferences. I only ask that you don't send, um....kangaroo poop or something like that in return! :eek: :p

PM me with your address, and I'll get a box together!
.......................
Nanci, so sorry to hear you were racing the clock. That is so stressful. It *is* a big deal--it would've messed up your whole plan if you had come in late. Glad you made it. L.

[Brina]

Nanci, glad to hear that you made it and won't mess up your plan. What exactly is an R-12 award?

[DrBee]

Good morning ladies! I took off of work today and went for a nice 20 mile ride this AM. I'm still overly concious of cars (that's not necessarily a bad thing), but I felt great in terms of bike control and confidence :)

Today will be a good day. Heading to cook buttermilk blueberry waffles... Have a glorious day!

[DrBee]

Nanci --Urates - you're right, I am the only one that would care. I don't remember that term. I've learned something new today - thanks!

I'd been wondering about you Nanci - sorry to hear you were racing the clock all day. That doesn't sound like much fun. How were the shorts and the saddle? I'm looking forward to the ride report!

CC - I'd trade with tyou, but I can't get any of those things around here anyway. Lise - I bet you're a good overt sister ;)

It's my turn for the showers - THEN to the waffles.

[KnottedYet]

I think I'm finally starting to get over this dang cold. Whoever told me it lasts 2 weeks: you were right! I must have had the same one you did.

Now that I'm feeling better, it looks like it'll be a cloudy and rainy commute. Might have to wear the raingear over my work clothes. Or wear bike shorts (for a 4 miler?!?!) to save my work clothes. It will be nice to get a break from all this sun, though.

soooooo glad I don't have to work tomorrow. Need to get in some open water swimming, got a BBQ, do laundry and dishes and clean the house.

I have nothing important to say. Just rambling and drifting along....:D

P.S. Urates. I care, too. (urea, uric acid, urates... sounds like I'm conjugating a latin verb)

[DirtDiva]

Not exactly bike food, but much tastier than kangaroo poop!

[Nanci]

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/261,13564_.html

I bought one of these Mammut Diamond Sport Tops (for climbing) at Sierra Trading Post, and liked it so much I got the other color, too. $16.95! Shelf bra- great for cycling, if you like tanks.

Nanci

[Nanci]

Crap, didn't notice they only had XXS left, never mind...

Nanci

[salsabike]

Please tell me what MWBR means...

[Nanci]

More will be revealed.

It applies to more than Lise's dates!

[salsabike]

Oh, yeah---it sure does. Thanks for the translation!

[withm]

More will be revealed.

It applies to more than Lise's dates!

And all this time I thought it was Mean While, Back at the Ranch. LOL

[Lise]

And all this time I thought it was Mean While, Back at the Ranch. LOL
That's a good alternate meaning!

I knew a woman from Tennessee, named Carvel, who pronounced it: "Mow-er Well Beee RuhVEALed!" She'd say it to remind me that we just never really know how things will turn out. It's sort of a life philosophy at this point!

Although, I do like "meanwhile, back at the ranch..." :D It occurs to me that this is a way we could draw more TE'rs out of lurkdom on thread drift....make up acronyms, and wait for them to ask! hehhhehehee ;)

Knotted, glad to hear you're feeling better. It's all well and good to be the health care provider saying, "This virus will leave you sick and weak for 10-14 days." It's quite another thing to BE the person with the virus. I hate being the patient! Looking forward to more tales of the road from the PNW. L.

[DrBee]

I made a chocolate cream pie tonight - it's chilling in the fridge right now! Ooh I can't wait!

Knotted - glad you're finally getting over that cold! It seems like it's been a month. I'm sure it feels longer for you.

Now we're trying to decide which types of gourmet pizza to order. This could be a while. I'm also starting the cinnamon rolls tonight (will cook in the AM). Good thing I'm getting in some pretty decent rides each day. I need to in order to burn off all of this food!:eek:

[DrBee]

Lise - I'm glad you explained where you got the MWBR thing. I've been wondering...

[Nanci]

I am so pleased to be ahead of the SS game for once!! I just ordered some cool Florida-themed stuff, resisting the socks I _really_ wanted to send- Love Sucks. Maybe if I ever get Lise for my SS ;-)

I highly doube SS reads this thread, but you never know. We are rapidly closing in on the other most popular thread, in terms of posts!! Maybe she's a lurker.

I _did_ buy the Love Sucks for my daughter- although love doesn't seem to suck for her and the perfect son-in-law. The love birds kind of reminded me of Kelly's first child, Senegal Parrot Roy.

Well, the torts are safely tucked in bed, and I am out on the patio with Dill, enjoying el cheapo Sauvignon Blanc and pretzels, waiting for the nightly crow migration. I cannot believe how hot the patio blocks are! BF is "back home" for a week. I am very lonely. You guys will undoubtedly see evidence of this in the week to come.

I have to work tomorrow.

[Lise]

I am so pleased to be ahead of the SS game for once!! I just ordered some cool Florida-themed stuff, resisting the socks I _really_ wanted to send- Love Sucks. Maybe if I ever get Lise for my SS ;-) ...
BF is "back home" for a week. I am very lonely. You guys will undoubtedly see evidence of this in the week to come.
Hmmm, I've never signed up for SS, due to my overwhelming aversion to the post office, but it is tempting to sign up and manipulate the system so as to get "Love Sucks" socks from Nanci....hmmmm, (hatching evil plan)...BWAHAHAHAHA!

Ahem. Love Sucks socks, you say? How intriguing! :cool:

More about MWBR--I knew Carvel from Al-Anon meetings when I was in my 20s. She also used to say (insert Tennessee accent): "Ahnger? Ah know all about ahnger! 400 yeahrs ago, mah people were payntin' theymselves BLUE an' goin' to wahr naykid! Yew cain't scare me with ahnger!" She was referring to the Celts, her tree-worshipping, blue painting, naked war-mongering ancestors. Mine, too, for that matter!

[Nanci]

There's a PO where I work- I keep them in business with all my on-line shippingg returns.

[KnottedYet]

oooh, we've got some thunder here in Seattle! And some wacky looking clouds. We don't get thunder often.

Here's how ridiculous PMS is: I cannot fix the creak in my new Brooks saddle and it's just getting worse each time I ride. Can't call Wallingford until tomorrow... and that makes me wanna cry! I HATE crying so easily!!!! Grrrrrr.

Ha ha! My dog is glued to the window trying to figure out what the noise is! Hasn't started raining yet.

I need more coffee.

[Nanci]

You know what makes me cry easily- confrontations at work. I hate that I do that.

Oh yeah, and that hopeless feeling on my bike of either being 40 miles off course, or not wanting to ride any more hills ;-)

Nanci

[DrBee]

I wanted to cry this AM when I got all dressed for riding, ate my breakfast and then it started to rain. I went running instead. People pulling out of their driveways looked at me like I was nuts! I was soaking wet and loving it! I did 2.3 miles. For once I wasn't drenched with sweat.

Fishfry has a pretty good fever today (102F). He seems healthy otherwise. Motrin and rest for him today. It's good it's raining - it'll be a lowkey day. However, being stuck in the house with houseguests could be interesting. The run this morning was prep for that ;) I feel bad for all those people planning big BBQ's. It looks like it's going to rain off and on all day.

Nanci - we'll do our best to keep you company.

I'm trying to figure out what extra to put in my SS box this time. I've come up with a couple of good things. My toughest time is picking the right socks.

[Nanci]

I need a cinnamon toasted almond INTERVENTION RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love riding in rain, but it's hard to start out in the rain.

Nanci

[DrBee]

Nanci - I was thinking of you while I was running today. I wouldn't have minded if I got caught out in the rain on the bike, but yeah, starting is different.

Ooh - the cinnamon rolls turned out really good this time! Much better than the first time, and they were good then. I like being able to make them the day before, only having to "wake them up" in the AM and cook them.

I LOVE cinnamon toasted almonds! That is some seriously yummy stuff! I'm going to be soooooooooo bored today. I do not sit still well for any length of time. At least Fishfry's fever has come down. Children's Motrin is good.

[Trek420]

fishdr "People pulling out of their driveways looked at me like I was nuts! I was soaking wet and loving it! "

I hope you looked right back at them as if they're nuts.

"why are you driving on this beautiful day!?!! :eek: "

[DrBee]

I should have! I just waved and smiled like it was a glorious day! I felt like a kid playing in the rain. Only when I was a kid, I think my legs could move faster ;)

Since we're eating a late lunch/early dinner today, mom and stepdad and FishJr decided that it would be a great idea to go get ice cream at 12:30 in the afternoon. I, of course, could not decline. I'm weak! I don't know how people eat like this all the time. Ugh! I feel gross. I'm craving healthy food! I wanted to eat cantaloupe. Should have. I will need to ride a little extra over the next couple of days.

Why does my cat insist on rubbing against my face when I'm typing??? He's my computer buddy. This is my unfriendly-to-everyone-else-but-me cat, age 12, skinny as a rail, rips his fur out when he's stressed, and "leaves a present for me" in strategic places when he gets mad about something. He did that when both babies were brought home from the hospital - right in front of the crib. Lovely, eh?

Now, how was that for thread drift???

How's it going Nanci?

It's naptime here - I'm bored.

[Nanci]

I'm trapped at work. Oh well, more OT.

Edited to add I don't need the cinnamon almond intervention any more- I ate them all. But I didn't eat lunch.

[maillotpois]

Chocolate pie, cinnnamon almond, gournet pizza - you guys are making me HUNGRY!!!

Fish - sorry about the rain. Come here and ride in our perfect weather - I can't!

Knotted - bummer about the PMS. I also cry easily - usually when I am mad. And it doesn't happen professionally (thank heaven - how effeictive would I be as an attorney then??) For example, when I got the big blow off from the pulmonoligst's scheduling troll last week who wouldn't get me in for 3 1/2 weeks - hey I'm coughing up blood here, folks! Anyway I had a good cry after that!

Went to the ER this morning. Was woken up with stabbing chest pain at 4 am - exactly the same pain I got the weekend before I was daignosed with the PEs. Now that I am a teeny bit smarter (stabbing chest pain can be bad - duh!), I decided I should get it checked out. Had another CT scan - fortunately it was the SAME tech as last week, which was super cool. She is becoming an old pal! Anyway, the clots in my lungs actually look better (even though I am not yet responding enough to the anticoagulants) - the pain is basically pleurisy - irritation of the lungs/lining from the clots being there and being broken up. They kept wanting to give me pain meds, and the thing is I want to know what hurts and how badly it hurts. But now I know that it's not a new clot or lung tissue dying (a highly possible thing given that the clots block blood to the lungs) or something terrible.

I am planning my comeback. I just ordered new trail running shoes. I hate running. At least we have good trails here. What I do is more fast hiking anyway.

[DrBee]

Running??? I know you've said you hate running. You do fast trail walking - that's unfortunately about the pace at which I run on the road. Whenever I feel the urge to gripe about not being able to ride - I'll think you MP and squelch the urge. I'm sorry to hear you had more chest pains, but glad to hear the clots are improving. I totally understand not wanting to take pain meds. You can't tell what's wrong if the pain is artificially deadened. I'm the same way.

Are you doing anything special for the 4th? Seeing fireworks? I saw a rather large old bottle rocket-type dealy in the road this morning. Biggest bottle rocket I've seen. Yeesh!

They're awake - why is that family visits are always one day too long??? ;) MP - you can have my food. I think I'm about done eating for the day. Ugh! Unfortunately, that chocolate pie will be calling me later. It was yummy. Another Cooks Illustrated recipe.

[Jones]

Nancy,
I thought you might like this. I am so technology challenged I couldn't get the caption with the picture and am actually somewhat impressed that I got the picture to open.
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[Nanci]

Seen it before- I love it! I love the way animals use roads. There was a study recently about how homing pigeons fly down (over) roads rather than cross-country, and I've noticed crows doing that, too.

Nanci

[Nanci]

(I'm recovering from my accidental drift at Peter Reid)

FOUR missiles launched by North Korea now? I am turning on TV...

[Nanci]

Nothing on network TV, which is all I get. It must not be a big deal...

(Why can't I make the smilie icons work? I can't figure it out! I get the html with them, too!!)

[DrBee]

Nanci - It took me a while to figure that out, too. Select them from the top, not the smilies box. It's right next to the font color (the "A"). See it?

[DrBee]

I heard about the missiles (DH checked the news online). I've been watching Clifford and Winnie the Pooh with FishFry - he's being a couch potato and quite attached to me while he's sick. Poor baby! FishJr and the grandparents are in the pool. Mr. Fish made me a candle holder today from cedar - lucky dog got to spend the day in the workshop playing on the lathe! Works for me!

[Nanci]

:rolleyes: Lise, I found the perfect guy for you. Check out Beta's RAGBRAI thread. Look at the bottom, on the right. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nanci]

PS, Isn't BG a cute little photogenic thing? I wish I had _one_ pic so nice in my entire life...

Twin Peaks is REALLY weird. I have to go to bed now. I made it through eps 2 and 3, though.

What's up with the weird dwarf?

Nanci

[snapdragen]

I LOVED Twin Peaks! At least the early episodes - it kind of went into bizzaro land (well, more bizzaro land) towards the end.

Why, when I have a glass of wine at dinner, do I get SO warm, and red? I think I'll blame it on slaving away at a hot stove.......

[jobob]

Thought I'd share something I learned on my ride today.

Yoo-hoo is nectar of the gods.

[snapdragen]

I have not had Yoo Hoo in a while, but yes, I remember it being quite nectar_of_the_gods_like...

[KnottedYet]

And now yet another lovely side-effect of PMS.... I WANT some nooky. NOW NOW NOW.

Gawd, hormones suck.

(and I ain't gotten any in 1 1/2 years)

Hormones really really suck.

When does menopause kick in??????

(TMI, I'm sure, but if I can't rant here, where can I rant?)

MP - girl, you gotta take care of those lungs! I think you should call the scheduling troll and tell her "oh, by the way, I had PE's and would be dead if I'd done like you said." but then, I have PMS and am being all passive-aggessive and spoiling for a fight. Hey, gimme her number and *I'll* call her! I so want to call my quack-neurologist and tell her she sucks, too. And the co-worker who is making my job hellish. Heck, just give me the phone!

Knotted rolling up her sleeves, putting on her sunglasses, pushing her Levis to her hips, and dangling a cigarette dangerously out one corner of her mouth... (ummmm, do I have to light it to look threatening?);)

[salsabike]

KNOTTED, YOU WILL NOT LIKE PERIMENOPAUSE. TRUST ME ON THIS ONE. IT WILL REALLY P*** YOU OFF IN MANY WAYS. I personally do not enjoy the feeling, for example, that someone is holding a blowtorch to my face when I have a hot flash. Arrrr.

All sing together "I enjoy being a girl!" Then we'll go find Nancy Kwan and paste her one right in the teeth.

[Selkie]

KNOTTED, YOU WILL NOT LIKE PERIMENOPAUSE. TRUST ME ON THIS ONE. IT WILL REALLY P*** YOU OFF IN MANY WAYS. I personally do not enjoy the feeling, for example, that someone is holding a blowtorch to my face when I have a hot flash. Arrrr.

All sing together "I enjoy being a girl!" Then we'll go find Nancy Kwan and paste her one right in the teeth.

I'm 43 and know that menopause is on my horizon. I've made the decision to stay on the pill until my gyn is sure I'm through it. My mom had a horrific time during menopause and started going through it at age 45.

[Lise]

Knotted, get a grip! Focus and channel all your energy into getting some! :p Like I'm one to talk.

Remember, on the bike, you are a superhero. Or at least that's what I tell myself. Hang in there, my friend.

[Nanci]

Lise, don't think of this as medical _advice_ , just a sharing of knowledge.

Do you think a person might reasonably expect to have started menopause by 53?

Would a hormonal BC devise have any effect on the onset?

Just curious...

Nanci

(My best friend of all time got pregnant when she was 40, horror of horrors, by accident. When I asked her how this could have possibly happened, she told me she just assumed she was too old to conceive!) (She's had a rough year- her husband turned into a woman after 25 years...) (So she had to get divorced from "Jenna.")

[Nanci]

Hey Fish,

I was reading in New York Times today that your state has "Rent-A-Convict!" You just call the sheriff, tell them how many warm bodies you need, and they drop them off, then pick them up! Some work for free, others for minimum wage, but don't worry- the sheriff takes most of that for expenses anyway. :-) You could have more time to ride with them doing the yardwork for you!

Just an idea...

Nanci

[Lise]

Lise, don't think of this as medical _advice_ , just a sharing of knowledge.

Do you think a person might reasonably expect to have started menopause by 53?

Would a hormonal BC devise have any effect on the onset?

Just curious...

Nanci

(My best friend of all time got pregnant when she was 40, horror of horrors, by accident... (She's had a rough year- her husband turned into a woman after 25 years...)

Good Lord. I'll say no more about the "Jenna" situation. 40 is far from too old to conceive!

53 is definitely in the menopausal range. Most of the symptoms we associate with menopause are from decreasing estrogen, so using a hormonal BC method could blunt the effects

[crazycanuck]

Oh i'm a dork...Lise i was wandering around today thinking about what funky things (besides tim tams) i could send you...DOn't hit me-I thought what about a bottle of wine...Then thought..err no...Lise doesn''t drink..but then i thought i wonder if you'd serve it to company....:confused: hmmm...

Btw..has anyone tried Honeystingers?? I found some on a NSW website & was wondering..


c

[DrBee]

Hey Fish,

I was reading in New York Times today that your state has "Rent-A-Convict!" You just call the sheriff, tell them how many warm bodies you need, and they drop them off, then pick them up! Some work for free, others for minimum wage, but don't worry- the sheriff takes most of that for expenses anyway. :-) You could have more time to ride with them doing the yardwork for you!

Just an idea...

Nanci


I did not know that. Mr. Fish says we have the remnants of a fig tree that they could remove ;) I did see a group of them at the corner on my last ride. The all gave me a big smile...I pedaled a bit faster. I know they wash the sheriff's car regularly...

[DrBee]

Lise, don't think of this as medical _advice_ , just a sharing of knowledge.

Do you think a person might reasonably expect to have started menopause by 53?

Would a hormonal BC devise have any effect on the onset?

Just curious...

Nanci

(My best friend of all time got pregnant when she was 40, horror of horrors, by accident. When I asked her how this could have possibly happened, she told me she just assumed she was too old to conceive!) (She's had a rough year- her husband turned into a woman after 25 years...) (So she had to get divorced from "Jenna.")

Yeesh! I'm not even going to go there. I knew of a famous Evolutionary Biologist that was always very gruff and was known for being rough on people at conferences (even students). Sometime around 1998/1999, in his 50's, turned into a woman and then eventually ran for Mayor of San Francisco (Joan Roughgarden). MP - do you know who this is?

[Nanci]

Fish, the article said they were always polite and helpful. Glad to get out, I guess!!

Crazy- I'll trade, I'll trade!! But yes, I have had Honey Stingers and like them a lot. They come in a lot of flavors!

We have a friend here who was a NASA payload specialist before turning female. EXTREMELY intelligent (duh!) But she's 6'2" with 44DDs and man-hands. Is she really happier now?

Nanci

[maillotpois]

Knotted - thanks for rolling up your sleeves and preparing to go to battle against scheduling trolls for me! Maybe this would be a good outlet for your hormones?

Fish - I do not know that person you referred to who ran for mayor of SF after sex change. Frankly s/he is probably too boring and conservative for SF. :p

Snap - I loved Twin Peaks, too. That was a pretty creative show.

[Tater]

That turtle in the pic a page or so back looks like he's booking it down the road! Three feet are off the ground!

[Lise]

Oh i'm a dork...Lise i was wandering around today thinking about what funky things (besides tim tams) i could send you...DOn't hit me-I thought what about a bottle of wine...Then thought..err no...Lise doesn''t drink..but then i thought i wonder if you'd serve it to company....:confused: hmmm...

Btw..has anyone tried Honeystingers?? I found some on a NSW website & was wondering..


c
Nope, no wine for me, thanks. Send it to Nanci, and you've made me happy by making my friend happy! :D

Never tried Honeystingers. I've seen people talking about them on the boards...

[Nanci]

Tater, those Gopher Tortoises can run! I think that pic was taken at Kennedy Space Center. That's exactly what they look like when they're running down a paved bike trail. They get tired pretty fast, and flop down with a big huff, then get up and run again.

(That's what my baby Cracker Chicken will grow into in many years).

[Tater]

Tater, those Gopher Tortoises can run! I think that pic was taken at Kennedy Space Center. That's exactly what they look like when they're running down a paved bike trail. They get tired pretty fast, and flop down with a big huff, then get up and run again.

(That's what my baby Cracker Chicken will grow into in many years).

How cool!!

[DrBee]

MP - I was wrong, she wasn't running for mayor, but for "the half-time, city council-like position of district supervisor for District 6". She lost.

So - what exactly is a Honeystinger?

[Nanci]

http://www.honeystinger.com/noflash.html

Honey Stinger is a natural energy gel made from a combination of Pure Honey, Pure Water, Salt, Potassium Citrate and Vitamin B Complex (Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, B1, B2, B6, B12).

Honey Stinger uses honey as the main source of carbohydrates, as opposed to man made carbohydrates commonly found in other energy gels. Studies show that honey is low on the glycemic index and therefore provides a long, steady source of energy instead of a spike and crash. Honey is also a natural source of antioxidants.

Honey Stinger Energy Gel benefits:
* All natural
* Contains Vitamin B complex, which supports the absorption of proteins and fats and the breakdown of carbohydrates into glucose. This helps provide energy and may contribute to improved recovery time.
* Contains Sodium and Potassium, which are essential electrolytes that need replacement during activity
* Naturally low on glycemic index, thus preventing an energy spike and crash
* Provides quick energy
* Natural source of carbohydrates
* Tastes great and goes down smooth
* Provides long, steady source of energy
* Quickly absorbed into your system
* 120 calorie energy boost
* Fat free
* Natural source of antioxidants
* Helps speed muscle recovery
* May be used before, during and after activity
* Honey Stinger is water-soluble so it can be mixed in any liquid. Mix it in your water bottle for a quick energy drink or add it to your hot tea for a winter energy drink.
* Great to use on cereal, toast and fruit

[DrBee]

Thanks Nanci - I can't surf around much right now - I'm at work. That sounds great!

[Nanci]

I fell asleep at work today!!

Still have one more patient at 15:30...

New residents start tomorrow- they know nothing- and depend on me to teach them how to do everything. I hate July.

[DrBee]

You fell asleep!:eek:

Good luck with the residents. Have fun with that!

FishFry is still running a fever today. Tomorrow he goes to the doc if he's not better. It's lower today than yesterday. That's some improvement. Now I'm feeling lousy - no appetite. Now that's weird for me. I think it's backlash from all the unhealthy food I ate this weekend.

[Nanci]

But I was awake in time for the emergency add-on willie x-ray!! Not my favorite thing, but other studies are worse... Pretty simple, actually, it's just the thought.

[DrBee]

OK - I tried looking that one up and didn't have much luck. What is a willie x-ray?

It's getting ugly over in one thread in OT -have you been there?

[snapdragen]

New residents start tomorrow- they know nothing- and depend on me to teach them how to do everything. I hate July.

We had the new resident orientation last week - I call 'em baby docs - they all look about 12 years old.

[Nanci]

Retrograde Urethrogram- (RUG) stick a catheter into the very end of the penis, inflate a small balloon to keep the x-ray contrast (dye) from running out, inject contrast, see if the urethra (going from bladder through the penis to outside) is intact, not torn, not gouged into, not blocked.

Retrograde means against the normal flow of things. (Antegrade would be _with_ the natural flow).

The urethra may also be visualized during a voiding cystogram- fill the bladder by gravity with contrast, then the patient pees it out- but sometimes they can't pee, and it takes a lot longer. TThe VCUG is for looking for reflux of urine back to the kidneys like it's not supposed to go (and carrying bacteria with it, in the case of a child who is prone to UTIs) and a plain cystogram looks for bladder injury or abnormality.

[Nanci]

Yeah I saw that!! Whatever!!!!!!!!! I say that chick is ungodly fast compared to "normal" people. 18-22 mph average in mountains??? Whatever!!!!! Maybe we seem slow in comparison to her, but we also seem slow in comparison to TDF riders- and I for some reason don't really compare myself to them ;-) I thought the whole original post that started the controversy was pretty belittling. That's be like me saying it's [usually!] very easy for me to ride 100 miles or more, and no big deal to ride 200 miles, so all you people who can only go 25 just suck and aren't trying. But if that's what makes you happy...I don't say that, don't think that, feel like everyone has potential, perhaps untapped, feel like there is no "end" to how much better we can get- but everyone improves at different rates, and that's fine! Geez, look at me, riding with the 14 mph if they're lucky group, for 30ish mile rides on Saturdays. Yeah, maybe (well for sure) I'd benefit more from going 80 miles at a 16 mph average speed, or riding with the B riders with an average of 18-20 (and then dying afterwards) but I'm not into that, and if I want to plod along at 13 or 14 or 15 mph- well, I bet I have plenty of company, I would say, in fact, the majority of us like/ride at/are comfortable at/are happy with that speed.

[DrBee]

You know - after I asked you what it was, I realized what the willie was probably referring to. Sounds like a lovely procedure. Sorry you woke up to that. Ick!

Heading home - wish me well thoughts (I"ve been getting chills all afternoon in my hot office) and for sure wish FishFry healthy thoughts!

[DrBee]

Yeah - I thought the post that started the chaos was way out of line. If she's really that fast, why doesn't she race? I'd like to see some posted speeds/times. Regardless, nothing good can come of saying that everyone slower than her sucks. You're right - you could easily say similar things to many here about distance. But - you wouldn't even think it! I don't even know how fast I can really go. I've never tested myself. I just ride at the pace that feels right at the time. Sometimes I'll try to see what I can get up to, but by the time I run out gears with the middle ring, I have a stop sign coming up and I have to slow down anyway. It seems like killing yourself on every ride just to say that you are fast is pointless. I like your philosophy about group rides. I've never done one (no groups around here), but I would place myself the same as you. This is supposed to be fun. I really hope the discussion doesn't discourage people.

[Nanci]

It's 6PM and I can't tear myself away from the flame war!! I piped in with a quote from my hero, Mike Magnuson:

You can't stop participating in a sport because there are professional-level people who can obliterate you at it. A sport is about a lifestyle, about health and fitness and happiness, and you want to try hard, of course, you want to do your best, but you'll have to accept that other people's best will
frequently be better than yours.

Mike Magnuson, Heft On Wheels

[Lise]

GOOD GRIEF! I cannot believe that thing has gone on and on and on all day. I kind of skimmed it. Whew. I hope that people just hang in there and soak up the generally supportive and encouraging atmosphere of the TE boards.

Nanci, thanks for the re-post of the pets/heaven story. Was that provided as an antidote and diversion from the speed thread? It worked for me. Maybe I should post PR's picture. That'll distract 'em! :p

I rode the Larkspur to work today, cuz my girly bits are sore from ~40 miles over 2 days on the new tri saddle. It's got to go. I need something I can ultimately ride for 56 miles in a race (1/2 IM), and ~100 mi in a century ride. This is not it.

As usual, I noticed:
1. How comfortable the Larkspur is. 2. How much slower (avg 2-3 mph) I am on it, under the same weather/energy conditions 3. How much heavier it is to carry up and down the stairs at the Board of Health clinic!

Despite all that, I also noticed that I'm feeling stronger on the bike this week. Dang, training pays off? Not there with the run yet, but I'll get there.

I love my cat babies so much. Someday I'll overcome my sloth and scan in some pix of them for you all to see.

Re: July and the new residents--Yeah, I know. Here's the scary thought. I was born on July 19, in the middle of the night. What'r the odds that I was actually dropped on my head? Excellent! :eek: I'm hoping my Mom had some cranky old attending MD who insisted on doing his own deliveries. :D

fish--hope you and the entire school of fry are feeling much better soon.

[SadieKate]

I wasn't a straight A student, I got a B in Geology... Don't let that grade point average go to your head.:p Remember grades, wisdom and plain old smarts don't have much to do with each other. I offer the fine example of ol' Al Einstein.

[Grog]

Can't peel myself off that (flaming) thread either.

I think the general tone of the responses to the original elitist post will reassure anyone who had bad feelings with regards to their speed.

We should organize a slow race up a hill sometime.

What about a TE Get Together somewhere this fall?

[Nanci]

(SK- that was a reference to something said in the flame war speed thread :-)

Maizey has finally shed! This is how it usually goes: Snake has a nice meal. Snake disappears for a few days. Snake reappears, hungry. One day, snake doesn't reappear. When checked on, snake is "blue." (Getting ready to shed skin- skin dull, bluish, eyes covered with blue caps). Snake remains hidden for 7-10 days, eyes then clear and in a few hours snake sheds and is sparkly new.

This is how it went: Maizey dined on Tuesday two weeks ago. Maizey went to bed. Maizey never came out. I figured she was "in blue" but didn't disturb her. On Sunday, after 12 days, I couldn't stand it any more- pried her out of her hiding spot, and was surprised and worried that she wasn't blue, just sort of dingy. But she was awake and moving and seemed to be the right temp. Put her back- straight back into hiding. I put her "moist hide" into her tank just in case, (Tupperware square container with a little opening, filled with wet moss- makes shedding easier) and misted her shavings and covered the top of the tank with plastic to raise the himidity. Nothing. This morning she went into the moist hide. Finally, I just went out there, and there she is, all gorgeous and newly-shed. What a relief. I must have somehow missed the blue stage, and then she had a super-long clear-eye phase before the shedding. Weird.

[DrBee]

They're soooo pretty after the shed!

I'm home now - geez there have been a lot of posts since I left work! I thought about the speed thread on the way home. "I got straight A's". What-ever! Who cares???!!! I didn't get straight A's by any means and still ended up quite successful and happy. I have no tolerance for the elitist attitude. That's why I left academia and work for a gov't research agency. Aargh!

I've never seen a thread get so ugly so quickly and last so long on TE. Yikes!

Nanci - I love the quote.

Maybe she should go ride with Lance, or maybe he's not fast enough for a challenge. Ooh, that was bad of me.


Thanks for the well wishes Lise - good news - FishFry's fever broke during naptime. He woke up in a puddle of sweat and is nice and cool! FishJr never gets sick. It's weird, but she doesn't. Mr. Fish seems well. Hopefully I'll be better in the AM. Tomorrow is a running day.

[Grog]

At this very moment there are 13 members looking at the How Slow Am I? thread.... :eek:

[DrBee]

Okay - I have to tear myself away from this. I need to go try to eat some dinner. Be back later.

Nanci - you hit it on the mark with the stop-and-smell-the-flowers comments. Elitists - Aargh!

[SadieKate]

(SK- that was a reference to something said in the flame war speed thread :-)Oh, I know! We can all lurk in every forum. Unless there is a rule and you're going to throw me out . . . .

[Grog]

Oh, I know! We can all lurk in every forum. Unless there is a rule and you're going to throw me out . . . .

Yeah, there is a rule: you have to be faster.

:eek:

[Lise]

The defining characteristic of thread drift is its utter rulelessness. Ruthless rulelessness, one might say. Never, however, ruthless rude rulelessness.

I'm just happy when SK peeks out of lurkdom with her lizard-timey self! :D

[SadieKate]

Faster than who? She says scuttling back onto (under) her rock.

[Grog]

Faster than who? She says scuttling back onto (under) her rock.

Faster than a slug!!

[SadieKate]

I can only guarantee less slimey.

[maillotpois]

It's 6PM and I can't tear myself away from the flame war!! I piped in with a quote from my hero, Mike Magnuson:

You can't stop participating in a sport because there are professional-level people who can obliterate you at it. A sport is about a lifestyle, about health and fitness and happiness, and you want to try hard, of course, you want to do your best, but you'll have to accept that other people's best will
frequently be better than yours.

Mike Magnuson, Heft On Wheels

The Magnuson quote was perfect.

I just got done with the doctor, and I had to dip my toe into the ring of fire that is the "speed" post. I'll tell you, the Tour of PHX or the one I race have nothing that we'd call a hill. Sure, there are hills around PHX, but asking people to strive in their everyday rides for a MPH based on what is probably a pretty flat race is pretty silly.

I hope my post came off okay. I wasn't trying to be boastful about my own time - just to call her on her facts.

[maillotpois]

Yeah - I thought the post that started the chaos was way out of line. If she's really that fast, why doesn't she race? I'd like to see some posted speeds/times.


I did look at her link to the tour of PHX and according to that her speed was 18.3 mph for a 26 mile ride.

14 3094 ELENA IVANOVA F 31 1:26:42 18.3 CHANDLER, AZ
15 3033 RANDI NAJAC F 35 1:26:42 18.3 CHANDLER, AZ

I am using my deductive powers to conclude that this is her and her husband.

This was a 26 mile ride!! WTF?

My last result on Tucson is here: http://www.pbaa.com/!ETT/ETT04-111.htm
746 1371 SARAH BURKE F 37 05:35:51 19.8 MILL VALLEY, CA

Remember, most of my rides are "slow" in her opinion.

Bear in mind this is an honest to god race - drafting, aggressive riding, etc. I crashed out last year :mad: and am apparently not doing it this year... I was going to try to beat my husband's time (just under 5 hours). Not likely. He must await my comeback next year. SARAH WILL SMASH!!

[Nanci]

It's 7PM and the tortoises have not been out to graze!!!!!!!!!!

At least dinner is in the oven. And, unlike the last time I made ciabatta bake, it's set at 375, not ZERO!!

So, did that statement about "this subject usually gets shut down pretty fast on other forums" mean a moderator shuts it down?

I am so glad we get to speak at will.

I've never seen an honest-to-goodness flame war on here before.

The BEST thing on there was comparing the quoted average speed to Lance Armstrong- that was great. That and "Unless it's a race, IT'S NOT A RACE."

Grog- you are lucky.

Have you guys ever done a slow race on MTBs? What a blast! Or how about a one-legged race?

The pets/heaven post was to comfort the PTS cat owner, but I didn't want to hijack her thread with it. I can't even read those kitty in heaven poems without bawling my eyes out...

When I go to heaven, I'm going to need a whole planet for me and pets past. Oh wait, I'm not a Mormon, and I'm not a man. Oh well, hopefully God has made provisions.

Isn't that weird how someone, the other day, in some thread, had to write g*d? Spell it out! It's ok! I'm sick of political correctness. I'm just a plain old midwestern Episcopalian, but if my religious beliefs offend someone, too bad for them. I don't get upset when someone else says Goddess or Higher Being or whatever. Common thread of humanity, belief (or non-belief) in Someone. Get over it.

You know what, just because someone inherits Einstein's brain doesn't mean they are guaranteed a "successful life" (as measured in material goods) either. Some people do the best they can with what they have, rising above all reasonable expectations, and others squander their gifts.

I am a squanderer, and, although relatively happy, have a non-squanderer sibling with whom to relentlessly compare myself to the end of days.

Oh well. At least I have ridden a 600k.

Slugs, in my yard, are Fagalo food!!

First person to correctly identify Fagalo wins a free copy of "Inside the Postal Bus" (but don't think that's a great prize).

[maillotpois]

Nanci it is probably generally a lot easier to cook when the oven is on. But I did not get a A in physics, so I may be mistaken.

Do you have a pic of Maisey now that she's shed??

[SadieKate]

Fagalo as in the volcano? No, perhaps a tortoise.

[Grog]

Slugs, in my yard, are Fagalo food!!

First person to correctly identify Fagalo wins a free copy of "Inside the Postal Bus" (but don't think that's a great prize).

I don't know who's Fagalo but he shouldn't eat slugs:
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1432489,00.html

[Lise]

Fagalo=Eastern box turtle

[Nanci]

Close...(xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxmessage too short)

[Nanci]

(I meant SK was close)

And I already have your address!!

Please don't tell me he shouldn't eat slugs- he eats them by the handfuls! That was the first food he agreed to eat in captivity!!

[Nanci]

Grog should win some kind of consolation prize, though, for providing the most obscure cross-reference to slug-eating at lightning speed...

[Grog]

Please don't tell me he shouldn't eat slugs- he eats them by the handfuls! That was the first food he agreed to eat in captivity!!

Ok now I'm inspired for dinner............. :confused:

I have to find something to do with these leftover chicken breasts. We're moving back to the continent Friday morning and I don't want to have to throw away food (or bikes).

[Grog]

Grog should win some kind of consolation prize, though, for providing the most obscure cross-reference to slug-eating at lightning speed...

I googled "eat slugs" but all the creatures you have or love seem to eat slugs! (Turtles, birds, reptiles...)

[Grog]

And by the way Nanci humans do go up 22% grades in the harshest conditions:
http://www.mtwashingtoncenturyride.org/hillclimb/index.cfm

I guess on a sunny and windless day they could do 24% !! :eek:

But they are crazy (or convicted of doping) so it doesn't really count.

[SadieKate]

Wait a minute! There is a volcano!

You didn't say which Fagalo???!!!:mad: :D :p

http://www.hrw.com/science/si-science/earth/tectonics/volcano/volcano/gazet_f.html

[Eden]

So, did that statement about "this subject usually gets shut down pretty fast on other forums" mean a moderator shuts it down?
.

no - I read cyclingforums.com often too (but not now - too many TDF spoilers!!) you have to do something pretty stupid to get moderated there -but usually when a newbie brings up the "what should my average speed be" or "how fast are your training rides" question some of the regular posters get on it pretty quick and say that you can't make the comparison so just don't try and the thread dies a fairly quick death. Some people get really tweaked that no one wants to talk about average speeds- funny, but guys often assume that it means that they are totally faster than everyone else, while us women usually believe that we are automatically slower.

[Jones]

Thread drift is my all time favorite thread. Now, I need to take a nap so I can drive 8 long hours to Tahoe after work. i get to try out my new mountain bike. Currently it is 105 degrees so an 8 hour drive to get cool temps is actually worth it. It is ok to be slow on a mountain bike, right?
Jones

[maillotpois]

Thread drift is my all time favorite thread. Now, I need to take a nap so I can drive 8 long hours to Tahoe after work. i get to try out my new mountain bike. Currently it is 105 degrees so an 8 hour drive to get cool temps is actually worth it. It is ok to be slow on a mountain bike, right?
Jones


Hey! I am going to Tahoe Friday (to cheer DH and friends on in Death Ride). Is it supposed to be cooler there? That would be nice!

Thread drift does rock.

[Nanci]

But is Fagalo the volcano a slug-eater???

What is with all the obscure references tonight???

All right, I suppose SK deserves a consolation prize, too, for coming up with _any_ Fagalo.

PM me your address.

Grog, you too.

I have no idea what the CP will be, though.

Might be a slug.

You know what is a pain, late for a bike ride, but it's perfect slug-collecting time of day, and you get a bunch, then can't get the slug-slime off your hands without unlocking the house and going back in for soap!!

[SadieKate]

Oh, Nanci, my consolation prize was getting to be completely obnoxious.:p

I was thinking of singing "Fagalo, Fagalo, Fagalo!" but it would horrify anyone with an ear.

[Nanci]

MP- I could NEVER stay off my bike for six months- I would cheat. (Although I _did_ stop diving.) I guess if you're gonna die...

My funnest (whatever!! I can use made up words if I want to!) trip ever, with my mom and sisters, was to Reno. Then we drove over the mountains to Sacramento. (The non-squanderer lived there at the time). Reno is where I learned about the slot machines that I had been turning my nose up at for my entire life. What a fool!! We drove around Lake Tahoe one day. It looked cold. But Reno was pretty- much better than scum-town Las Vegas where Running Mommy is now incarcerated.

[maillotpois]

We've got a lot of banana slugs and DH once rode his bike to work unaware that he'd sat on a slug that was on his bike seat. He had trouble getting the slime of his office chair....

[Lise]

Oh, the things I'll do for a book. I googled "fargalo", and the third entry was a TE post on thread drift, in which Nanci told us who he is. I cannot believe I actually used Google to good effect for once!

You would need some serious consolation if your prize was a slug.

Sarah, I thought your post about the race you did was great. That "fast" gal kind of peed in her own bed here at TE...once, early on, I wrote something that was taken badly--something that was supposed to be a nice, identifying kind of thing, but without inflection and facial expression actually sounded scolding--the person I wrote it to replied that she hadn't meant to upset me--I PM'd her so fast to explain and apologize that I actually PM'd the wrong person (similar handles), and then had to PM to apologise for that! :o :rolleyes: Point being...I want to maintain friendly relations here. I don't write about my politics (I love the new Dixie Chicks album) for example...;)

I deal with lots of ...uh, slimey stuff...but never, ever, do I hope to have slug slime on my hands!

Ate some FABULOUS salmon that I got on sale at the Jewel and broiled, then remembered that I also ate a salmon salad sandwich for lunch...don't know whether to be thrilled that I got in so many omega fatty acids or worry about heavy metals...:eek: :rolleyes: life is complicated.

Going to sleep for awhile, starting 12 hr call at 10 PM.

Tomorrow I'm seeing the podiatrist to confirm the TE gals' diagnosis that it's a morton's neuroma that makes my middle toes go numb when I run or ride. If I just hold my foot up to the computer screen.....

now be sure to drift a lot so I have tons to read all night! :D :D :D L.

[Grog]

Speaking of banana(-seat) and slugs, MP, why don't you get a sweet Townie to spend the time? You certainly won't fall off that, and you sure would have fun cruisin' around on it!!!!

[maillotpois]

MP- I could NEVER stay off my bike for six months- I would cheat. (Although I _did_ stop diving.) I guess if you're gonna die...




I'll bet it was hard to stop diving - and that was forever, right?? Sucky.

I am trying to remind myself that the risks outweigh the benefits and it is a limited time. The worst thing would be if I hit my head, even with a helmet, I would bleed profusely inside my skull. That would not help my GPA.

Based on the results of the genetic testing they did, I am probably not in the "forever" category for the blood thinners So I will just wait it our - and have overprotective people like SK slapping me when I suggest maybe I might take a wee little ride....

[Brina]

I hope my post came off okay. I wasn't trying to be boastful about my own time - just to call her on her facts.


This made me laugh. MP, you are worried about sounding boastful, but your post on the thread actually came off as honest and supportive. The other chick claims she was "just being honest" but came across as boastful and belittling.

[DrBee]

Dang it - I missed the contest! Y'all are quite prolific with the posts tonight! Let's see if I can catch up.

I was going to guess gopher tortoise.

MP - you're post in the speed thread was perfect! I was sitting there saying "go Sarah!". Your first post was so diplomatic. The race post was a pick her up and slam her down and stomp on her head - all while not bragging but making quite clear you are speaking from experience.. It was a thing of beauty!

SK - Glad to see you over here again

Jones - happy posting/lurking on thread drift

Thread drift DOES rock!

Lise - when's the next date?

[Lise]

I am trying to remind myself that the risks outweigh the benefits and it is a limited time. The worst thing would be if I hit my head, even with a helmet, I would bleed profusely inside my skull. That would not help my GPA.....
Oh, Lord, do we STILL have to be worried about our GPAs? That's a reason to wear a helmet, even without blood thinners.

"Bleeding Profusely Inside The Skull" never ends well.

I flunked out of chemistry in night school at the state university the year after I won the Lincoln Scholar award and graduated from the University of Chicago with honors and ... yes, there was alcohol involved :rolleyes: .

Also I got a "C" at U of C in a class on crystal structure. Why on earth was I in that class anyway? I have NO idea. I am positive I did not sign up for it. And I wasn't even drinking that much that year. Hmmm. Lost in the mists of time. I do remember I was pissed off because it was the only "C" I got in college.

My sister remembers my SAT scores. Whyyyyy? Because she got higher ones. I have not the foggiest idea what they were. Along the same lines, I have no idea what my average speed is. Usually, when I'm pedalling, I'm going 15 mph on the Bianchi, 19-20 if I'm pushing hard, 9 when the wind is awful, and zero at the stop lights. I tried to find my average speed on my computer--dunno. And hey, wow, I just don't care! It's fun to go fast, it sucks to fight for 9 mph, and so it goes! :cool: L.

It's a posting frenzy tonight! Fish--dunno when the next date is. Mr. P. was headed out of town for the 4th, and we sort of vaguely left it with he'd call me when he got back...of course I'll keep you posted! Really, now, I'm taking a nap...really...does anyone want to talk about Peter Reid? Cuz I could stay up for that...heh heh ;) L.

[Nanci]

All right, Dill and I are going out on the patio (is it down to 80 yet?) and taste a new Shiraz (Toasted Head, and Dill will be watching, not participating) and give up on viewing any Twin Peaks for tonight.

The red dwarf of two nights ago is still disturbing me.

fishdr- the torts are Buttercup (pants-wetter Desert Tortoise) KoKo (the Good Desert Tortoise) and Cracker Chicken (the free-range Gopher Tortoise) all of the Gopherus genus.

Just as it is not natural to be able to ride a 24% grade, 105F is also not natural.

[maillotpois]

This made me laugh. MP, you are worried about sounding boastful, but your post on the thread actually came off as honest and supportive. The other chick claims she was "just being honest" but came across as boastful and belittling.

Thanks! Tone can sometimes be misunderstood on a forum like this and I wanted to make sure I was clear.

[DrBee]

Lise - placenta is pretty darned nasty (please - no discussion of eating it by anyone, ok?). That awful slurping sound it makes as it hits the tray. Ewwwwwwwww.

MP - remember, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. NO bike for you (for now)! We'd like to have you around a bit longer, ya know. When can you start spin class again? I know it's not the same, but it's better than nothing.

Straight A's - ugh...that still is irritating me. This is about at the same level as the men comparing % body fat on BF.:rolleyes:

[maillotpois]

Speaking of banana(-seat) and slugs, MP, why don't you get a sweet Townie to spend the time? You certainly won't fall off that, and you sure would have fun cruisin' around on it!!!!

I would do that (or borrow FIL's Bianchi Milano) if I didn't have a 13 - 15% grade to climb to get home! On a bike like that I don't know that I could do it. And there's the issue of going down the grade to get anywhere, risk of falling, etc., which is why I am off bikes in the first place.

Would that I lived in Davis...

What I really want is a Vespa....

[Lise]

This made me laugh. MP, you are worried about sounding boastful, but your post on the thread actually came off as honest and supportive. The other chick claims she was "just being honest" but came across as boastful and belittling.
Beautifully put, Brina. I agree. L.

[maillotpois]

MP - remember, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. NO bike for you (for now)! We'd like to have you around a bit longer, ya know. When can you start spin class again? I know it's not the same, but it's better than nothing.


You guys all so rock.

Fish - I will probably start spin (and hiking the Dipsea steps and trail) next week - depends on how the chest pain is. Couldn't do it now. Doctor said it is okay to start up walking and stuff when my body feels like it. I may wait to spin til I see the pulmonologists later this month.

[maillotpois]

It's a posting frenzy tonight! Fish--dunno when the next date is. Mr. P. was headed out of town for the 4th, and we sort of vaguely left it with he'd call me when he got back...of course I'll keep you posted! Really, now, I'm taking a nap...really...does anyone want to talk about Peter Reid? Cuz I could stay up for that...heh heh ;) L.


It is a frenzy, all right. How can you fall asleep during all this???

[DrBee]

MP - Waiting till after you see the pulmonologist sounds like a good plan. You have lots of time. There's no reason to push it too fast and do more damage.


FishJr is decompressing after the granparents' visit - she's playing one of her learning computer games. That's normally a daytime activity, not right before bed. Ooh - maybe she'll get straight A's ;) Aargh! I'm moving past it ... really I am...

[Grog]

What I really want is a Vespa....

And a Sugoi Vespa Jersey maybe?
http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=17592

[maillotpois]

So when I was at the doctor, I was leafing through a "Star" magazine, and there is an article about swim suit bodies (great self-esteem reading).

Anyway, they have a picture in there of Lance Armstrong as "Best Athletic Body" (I ripped the page out) - he has a bit of a GUT!!! He's not fat, but boy is he a heck of a lot bigger than he was last year at this time!!

[maillotpois]

And a Sugoi Vespa Jersey maybe?
http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=17592


Good start. To go with this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Vespa-Sprint-150-motor-scooter-with-Free-Shipping_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6721QQihZ015QQitemZ250002165181QQrdZ1

[DrBee]

Nanci - I knew Koko and Buttercup - I was thinking of the one in the yard (cracker chicken - boy was I way off).

We are so prolific with the posts, I skipped over a bunch. Yikes!

My C in grad school (we won't talk about undergrad) was in Philosophy of Science. I was forced to take it, as I was getting a "doctor of philosophy" degree. I like Ph.D. better. Philosophy and I do not mix. I especially did not mix with the squirt of an instructor. He did not like the fact that I challenged the ideas he was presenting. Aren't you supposed to discuss things in a philosophy class? It was not a positive experience. No alcohol involved for me, just divorce, being stalked, and a hint of stuborness on my part. :)

[Lise]

It is a frenzy, all right. How can you fall asleep during all this???
I CAN'T, OBVIOUSLY! Must regain control of self...must nap...working all night...

MP, you can ride a Vespa if you have a phalanyx (I know that's not spelled correctly, is it even USED correctly?) of TE riders encircling you so that no stupid vehicles hit you--that's the problem. Not you. Them.

going to bed, going to bed...