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Lise

08-04-2006, 04:07 PM

fish! You will rock! And you will be so relaxed and happy after your trip to the CA TE girls' camp that the bee people will find themselves just wanting to be around you. Little will they dream that it's the aura of Team Danger that attracts them so...;)

V, enjoy your three weeks before you get back to molding young minds. Trek hawk, hang in there, soon someone else (you could only hope someone as wonderful as V) will be molding the young minds of your little guys. MP--I forgot to tell you that I saw a young girl out with her folks on a ride a few weeks ago, and thought, that looks like the PetitPois! Check her credit cards. She may have flown to Chicago recently. :p

chickwhorips

08-04-2006, 04:30 PM

the CA TE girls' camp

how and where do i sign up?

Eden

08-04-2006, 04:49 PM

I seem to have a new pet in the office. For the last couple of days I've seen this itty bitty light yellow/green spider hanging around on my computer monitor. It's literally about the size of a pin head - I wonder what its living on?

Lise

08-04-2006, 06:14 PM

how and where do i sign up?
Ya know, this little SF get-together those CA girls are planning for the fish's visit! Hey, it's only a 6 hour flight for me....I'm waaaay closer than you are! :p

Veronica

08-04-2006, 07:19 PM

Now that would be cool to have a Labor Day TE a thon.

V.

SadieKate

08-04-2006, 07:59 PM

Ooh, yeah. I have no hubby for the week. :(

chickwhorips

08-04-2006, 09:46 PM

Ya know, this little SF get-together those CA girls are planning for the fish's visit! Hey, it's only a 6 hour flight for me....I'm waaaay closer than you are! :p

hey no fair!:(

dachshund

08-04-2006, 10:03 PM

crazycanuck

08-05-2006, 01:38 AM

ummmm the little spiders in our shed live off the dirt on our mtn bikes...

Redback & whitetail spiders can do whatever they like in my shed...:eek:

CWH..I understand about being far away from the main TE gang...However i'm waving at you now! *wave* :D

I had a nice mtn bike ride today on my own. I didn't see a soul (i have a picture to prove i was there though...will post when the man gets back)

What i don't get it this-i (sometimes) come up to a log over but my mind & arms don't want to work together..my legs on the other hand are more than happy to move. It's as if something just doesn't click over...

Rock gardens, & uphill climbs are getting better though.

I'm out again with a friend tomorrow! 35km of fire road, singletrack along with some great uphill climbing!

c

DirtDiva

08-05-2006, 06:12 AM

I'm thinking you probably don't want them poisonous type spiders getting up to too much hanky panky in your shed - only going to lead to more spiders...

I suspect I could be winning in the furthest away poster stakes tonight; I'm in Singapore. :) Just having a couple of nights stop-over on my way to NZ (Dad's 60th is the same day as fish's interview) and the hostel has free internet. Score!

My poor, poor bike has a flat that I didn't notice until just before I left (it wasn't there on Wednesday night!), so she's all lonely in the garage and a bit dirty and needs TLC that isn't going to happen for at least three weeks. :eek: :( :eek:

I think I need to go to sleep. Got about four very interrupted hours on the plane - better than nothing, but so not enough. There was nobody in the seat right next to me, which was nice, but even with the extra room I couldn't find a possition that didn't make my right leg go numb eventually. :rolleyes:

Night y'all.

crazycanuck

08-05-2006, 06:21 AM

Hey DD,

Nope, i'm further away kiddo...

I think what i meant to say was the spiders can live in the shed as i'm not in there...We normally put bug bomb spray things in every month or so-I'll get some this week....

YAYAYAY..You're going home!! Where in NZ are you from again???

I'm saddened to hear you don't have your bike with you on your NZ trip..(I've told ian that when we go home for christmas that he doesn't have a choice & we are bringing our mtn bikes!!!)

Happy birthday to your dad in advance.

Enjoy singapore! Are you stopping on your way back??

NIght kids..

c

DrBee

08-05-2006, 06:26 AM

Good morning (or night) TD gang (and the lurkers)! :)

Nanci's doing a 200K today, isn't she?

I was all set and ready to ride this morning. I set out everything last night. Clif bar and all. Then I had a lousy sleep (maybe 2 hours) and woke up (sort of) with a headache. Poo! All I kept dreaming about was the interview seminar. I don't even get too too nervous over seminars - I give them all the time. I just kept picturing a big lecture hall. Yeesh! So - still have the headache. There are worse things - I'm sitting here typing with the fishfry on my lap :) I'm going to try to steal his blanket away today and wash it. It's a bit odiferous. Whew! I hope you all have a glorious day!

DrBee

08-05-2006, 06:28 AM

Hey DD - have a safe trip home! Hopefully I'll have something to celebrate along with your dad on the 22nd! Wish him a happy b-day for me!

Lise

08-05-2006, 07:10 AM

GO NANCI! Looking forward to the report! :D

DD/TLK--safe and happy travels. Best returns of the day to your dad!

fish--rest up. The good run will come.

I'm off to birth the babies--

L.

snapdragen

08-05-2006, 08:24 AM

:) I'm going to try to steal his blanket away today and wash it. It's a bit odiferous. Whew! I hope you all have a glorious day!

Reminds me of a time, when darling nephew was about 18 months - 2 years old. His "bunny" (small blanket with a bunny head) needed to be washed. We got it in the washing machine all right, but he saw it going into the dryer. You've not seen pitiful and tragic until you've seen a small boy, throwing himself at the dryer door, great huge sobs shaking his entire body! "bbbbbbbunny!"

maillotpois

08-05-2006, 09:12 AM

Happy Saturday.

So both V and Nanci are on the road right now.... I hope we get good ride reports.

I am off at around 11 to begin my SAG duties. Should be a nice day! I do wish I were riding. This is such a great double.

snapdragen

08-05-2006, 09:18 AM

Aren't the 'bobs and some other TE'ers riding the century today?

maillotpois

08-05-2006, 09:27 AM

Yup, Snap, I believe they are. BG is doing the 200k I think. And the bobs are doing the century or the metric.

DrBee

08-05-2006, 10:04 AM

Reminds me of a time, when darling nephew was about 18 months - 2 years old. His "bunny" (small blanket with a bunny head) needed to be washed. We got it in the washing machine all right, but he saw it going into the dryer. You've not seen pitiful and tragic until you've seen a small boy, throwing himself at the dryer door, great huge sobs shaking his entire body! "bbbbbbbunny!"

I managed to sneak it away from him while he was playing with his trucks. I've lived through a similar transfer-to-the-dryer event with FishJr when she was about that age. She didn't do the shaking thing though. How sad! We transferred the blanket to the dryer while he was eating breakfast. Strawberry pancakes - good bribery :) It's dry now, but we've been doing so much running around this AM that he hasn't the chance to ask for it. I love they joy on their faces when they get it back!

MP - have fun today!

Good luck to all who are out there!

snapdragen

08-05-2006, 10:25 AM

Well crud, I've done it again. 10:30 and I'm still sitting here in my jammies, frittering away the morning. I should go get in the shower, shave my legs, paint my toes, and go lube Bleu's chain.

margo49

08-05-2006, 11:02 AM

DD have a nice trip!
Say g'day to Te Moana Nui a Kiwa for me

snapdragen

08-05-2006, 02:38 PM

I finally finshed Bleu's bath/lube/clean up. Adjusted the brakes a smidge more (now that I know how!) and put her new Banana Bag on. We're not sure we like the new bag, but we'll work with it for a bit.

Beauty Shots
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Shiny cassette!
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The new Banana Bag
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/snapdragen/IMG_0335.jpg

snapdragen

08-05-2006, 02:40 PM

Non bike photo, Chloe gets Frosty Paws Ice Cream

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/snapdragen/IMG_0309.jpg

DrBee

08-05-2006, 06:17 PM

Nice job Snap! She's all spiffed up! Cute puppy, too!

I received my new shorts today. I didn't have much to spend and had a $25 Amazon certificate, so I ended up getting the Performance Ultra shorts for total outlay of $25. The chamois is really nice - 3D (which I haven't had until now) and super soft material. I don't feel it much just walking around in them, but the design gives major diaper butt. I'm not sure about the material of the shorts. It's not as smooth as I had hoped, but looks like it should wick well. I'll test it in the morning (assuming no headache).

Nanci

08-05-2006, 07:13 PM

I'm tired...Did the 200k, actually 135 miles, because of the intentional and unintentional bonus miles. I finished 16th out of 42 or more- it was 42 last I heard, but don't know if that counted the RBA who rode with us or anyone who signed in late. I was middle of the pack a lot of the way, did a lot of leapfrogging, rode with a bunch of different twosomes and a couple different packs. At the end, though, it became very evident who was heat-acclimated and who was not. I stopped twice before lunch at 88 miles to drench my hair and down my shirt. Other people got way behind, even then, because they overheated. I took electrolytes, Succeed S! Caps, every 30 minutes by an alarm. At lunch, I took a shower on the beach. I had to ask directions twice, and probably got off course four or five times- never disasterously. RBAs should have to preride the course. This kind of thing doesn't happen with my club...(Cue sheet errors and roads with different names than the sheet says.) It was in the mid-90's, and I heard some people's computers were reading over 100. I didn't catch the rain. The thing that really slowed me down were the overpasses on the Pinellas Trail- but luckily they were short enough that I could stand and minimize the delays. This dropped me out of any packs, though. After lunch, I tried to go fast. The couple big packs were stopping a lot to cool off and taking a long time at official and unofficial stops. I tried not to hang out at the stops. I left the last one alone, ahead of two big packs and several duos. I RACED to the end, the last 10 miles. Half a mile before the end, I thought I saw a rider behind me, and I really flew! They were surprised to see me come in so early. Hmmm, I don't use the AC in my car, my house AC can't keep the house as cool as we want, I take the torts out to graze for an hour or two every night when it is still 85. I don't die riding in that kind of weather. It was too hot to eat effectively, though. I had chicken chow mein for breakfast, and two glasses of grapefruit juice and two cups of coffee. Then one bottle of Endurance Gatorade and water before lunch, and about five cans of Coke, and water after lunch. Sport Beans. Half a Mojo bar. I coudn't choke it down. Grapes and potato chips and two slices of turkey for lunch. That's it. I felt good the whole ride. I got goosebumps about 18 miles before the end, (heatstroke???) but went in a store and poured water on my head and bought a bag of ice and stuffed it everywhere, and that went away. My riding time was 8:11, and the total time was 10:53. 13.5 hour limit. I think this is my fastest 200k ever. I don't know what my average speed is yet, but it was 16.7 for a lot of the morning, till the first hill. 15.0 at lunch. 15.6 the last time I looked before the end. That's pretty good- in a ride that long, even riding 19-21 mph, it takes a long time to change the average speed. The first third had zillions of stops and turns. It was pretty fun.

Nanci

08-05-2006, 07:16 PM

I had buyer's remorse over a car, too. I had a 1991 Ford Explorer that I put 300k on. I loved that truck. But I couldn't afford a used one, even, when it died, so I got an Isuzu Rodeo. It felt small and fragile and light. Nothing was the same as the Explorer. I missed it so much. Then, after a year and a half, I found a good deal on a 2003 Explorer. I test drove it. And HATED it! All the stuff I'd been pining away for now really bugged me. It felt like a tank. It was too big. I couldn't see out as well. Now I love the Isuzu more. I hope that happens for you...

Lise

08-05-2006, 08:38 PM

Nanci! Wow! Great ride report! I am impressed with what you can do in that heat. Rest up.
........................
Snap--what pictures? I don't see any pictures! :confused: L.

EDIT: At the hospital, I couldn't see the pictures. At home I can. Wierd.
Bleu is a beauty! The bag looks sooo roomy. I love that. And Chloe is one lucky dog. :D

chickwhorips

08-05-2006, 10:14 PM

crazycanuck - i'm waving back at ya! HI!!!!! :)

snap - bleu looks beautiful. i take it chloe likes her ice cream. never seen frosty paws ice cream though. i'm sure my rug rats wouldn't even tast it as it went down.

nanci - great job! go you!!! :)

snapdragen

08-05-2006, 10:25 PM

chick - Chloe likes food. Period. Ice cream, yogurt, vegetables, bananas. It's all good.

The Frosty Paws was peanut butter flavored, I think that's why she liked it. That, and it was 100 degrees that day.....:eek:

DrBee

08-06-2006, 07:27 AM

Great job Nanci! It pays to be heat-acclimated, for sure! It sounds like you really had fun on this one!

DrBee

08-06-2006, 07:31 AM

Lise

08-06-2006, 11:32 AM

Well, I didn't get to ride this morning - IT RAINED!!!!! Yippee! Rain and a little thunder -what a glorious sound! I'm going to try to slip in a ride this afternoon if it doesn't get too hot. That ought to test the wicking ability of the shorts, eh?
Yay for the rain! I know what you mean. When it rained here last Wednesday, I just about shed tears of gratitude. Hope you get to take a ride!

DrBee

08-06-2006, 12:04 PM

It's already up to 94F with a heat index of 100F. I think FishJr and I are going to go for a ride together before dinner. A few laps around the neighborhood. I'll pull out the hybrid for that.

Nanci

08-06-2006, 03:34 PM

I'm making "posole" for dinner. I don't think I'm doing it right...It's very salty and the pork is tough. It's 93F here, with 42% humidity. I think I am going to take the torts and Dill out for wine leftover night, featuring Chenin Blanc and Merlot. I am still reading 23 Days in July, about Lance's 6th win. There is quite a bit about everyone else, too. I like it.

maillotpois

08-06-2006, 03:45 PM

Great ride report (as USUAL), Nanci!!

Fish I hope you get a ride in!

I think today will be a "recovery" day. Just what I am recovering from,I don't know, but I don't see having any time to get out for a hike. I need to set up the bike on the trainer. Doesn't solve the time problem, though...

DrBee

08-06-2006, 03:53 PM

Nanci - Can't help you with the meal - I've never made that or had it. Here's an unrelated question for you - have you ever tried the Perf. Ultra shorts? I still haven't made it outside in them. I know you're always interested in collecting more data on shorts. From what I can tell, the chamois looks identical to the Shelastic from Sheebeest. Just FYI. Maybe tomorrow morning... I feel like I'm never going to get a ride in!

The kids are playing computer games (learning games). FishJr is trying to teach the little one how to use a mouse. She is being very patient with him. He likes the scroll button and to make the big white arrow whiz across the screen. She keeps telling him "stop, you're making me dizzy". It's quite a comedy in there! He watched her for the longest time today as she was doing her game (Dr. Seuss Kindergarten - very cute) and then he insisted on working on his computer. No - we didn't buy our little bitty kids computers - they have our hand-me-downs.

DrBee

08-06-2006, 03:55 PM

MP - Some days just need to be rest days - for no reason what-so-ever.

Nanci

08-06-2006, 04:27 PM

Fish, I tried those shorts. I don't remember what I didn't like. I didn't like any of the Century shorts, gel or gel light. Did they have the weird piece going horizontally across the top in the back, that made my *** look totally fat???

How can it be raining, from a blue sky, with no clouds over me?

DrBee

08-06-2006, 04:47 PM

Hmmmmm is there a flock of birds flying over???

DrBee

08-06-2006, 04:49 PM

The shorts are a bit short - I recall you've said you like the longer shorts.

Nanci

08-06-2006, 04:59 PM

Eventually some wispy white clouds drifted over. I put the torts and the wine log and the Palm Pilot away, and sat under an umbrella with Dill, reading my book. I love rain. It's gone now. BF is at work, OT, doing Weed and Seed, whatever that is. Home at midnight. I slept till 10:00 today, he slept till 2:30. I had a nap on the couch.

I have found another excellent food/wine combination- Chex Mix Honey Nut Sweet Salt, and Chenin Blanc. Mmmmm!!

Movies I am dying to see:

Clerks Two. A Scanner Darkly. Descent.

Right now i am either going to watch America's Funniest Home Videos, or, what's that movie, with the two brothers or cousins, in the south, Dukes of Hazzard!!

We got 50% off our hotel room Friday night since my bed was infested with hairs of all sorts. I ended up paying $20 for a $90 hotel room...

snapdragen

08-06-2006, 05:18 PM

Ew! Hairs? :eek: Did you sleep at all?

Nanci

08-06-2006, 05:40 PM

After I changed the bed myself and put on new sheets, with only one hair, and a new sheet over the down comforter, with no dead spider, and changed all four pillowcases, but still slept on my own four pillows that I brought, yes, then I could sleep pretty well, considering. The desk manager himself admitted that finding hairs in the sheets was the most disturbing hotel occurance he could imagine. You should have seen him grimace when I handed the stack of "used" sheets to him...

KnottedYet

08-06-2006, 06:57 PM

Nanci - if the posole you bought was canned in salt water, you might want to drain it. I didn't put that part in my recipe. Sorry. The canned posole i buy is usually salt-free.

Keep the heat on low and cook until the pork softens up again. Posole is also good with lamb. But I like pork the best.

I really want to see "V for Vendetta." And all the Oscar nominees. And the penguin movie. And the 2nd Pirates of the Caribbean.

chickwhorips

08-06-2006, 07:01 PM

nanci - sounds really fancy what your making for dinner, i'm sure its good though.

i'm throwing in pizza. between fishing and hauling in an anchor who knows how many times from who knows what depths, cleaning a boat and then somehow finding energy to mow the lawn. i forgot how hard that was! :eek: i'm exausted!

oh ya i have to do something with those fish..... the work never ends.

margo49

08-06-2006, 08:55 PM

oh ya i have to do something with those fish..... .

Know the one.

We went up to the Blueberries farm/orchard to pick a year's supply yesterday. Thought it was a lovely idea till we got stopped at a roadblock by a 19 yo female soldier who said a rocket fell on the town up there. So we said "Well, we are going past there to ___ to pick blueberries" and she let us thru. (Those 70's-80's non-violent-activist-training-weekends paid off again!!)

So we picked 5 kg of blueberries (11 pounds) and 1 kg (2+ pounds) of big blackberries to the background sounds of tank and cannon-fire, with smoke all across the northern horizon from the fire and the fires on both sides of the border.
Just me and the SO in the whole orchard. The trees were just laden. All the different shades of blue and purple with the occasional not-yet-ripe pinks, and greeny yellows

On the way there was no one and nothing on the road.
The apples and plums still on the trees, the grapes (for wine) nearly ready and noone to pick them either.In the fields the wild fig trees are full of fruit and the wild olives, though still bright green and hard as river pebbles, are promising a bumper crop in October . But not a movement - no people, no animals, very few birds.
At the blueberry place the same.
On the way back there was a continuous stream of traffic going east (the opposite direction to us).
Cars full of Reservists going to their Military Meeting-up Points. Groups of men everywhere.
(Note to those of us feminists who tend to see men as a group. When you see so many of them actually in the process of collecting together in one place, before they have got the group-feeling - you see how individual they each are)
Men trying to turn themselves into soldiers at a few days notice - most less than successfully in terms of physique and fashion. Not to mention "operational capability".
Do you laugh or cry?
Both at the same time

Then at 10 pm , after a family dinner and "the news" (15 dead and the injured in the hundreds and that is just on "our" side of the fence for which I have the numbers and some names and faces) I started to make blueberry jam

shalom salaam peace pax

salsabike

08-06-2006, 09:17 PM

Not on TE much because am back home in Albany NY with 80-year-old mom in emergency hospital kind of thing. I was trying to entertain her by telling her about this forum---including some of Margo's flora and fauna and from-the-front messages. So tonight I printed out a few of those and will bring them to the hospital tomorrow for her to read. It's comforting somehow to see a wide world view during tough times.

Nanci

08-07-2006, 02:44 AM

I never would have imagined that blueberries grew in Israel. But I didn't know they grew in Florida, either. I have a friend over there- I hope she's ok. She was in very fragile health before all this. She has an amazing pigeon named Hercules, who rescues all baby birds and raises them as his own- even chickens!

DrBee

08-07-2006, 06:12 AM

Margo - that must have been extra eerie with no birds and no movement. Hopefully this will be over long before the grapes and olives are ready to be picked!

Salsa - good luck with your mum. I hope she recovers from the emergency hospital thing super quickly!

Today I finish my slides and learn whatever I can about bees. This ought to be fun!

Nanci

08-07-2006, 08:19 AM

You know my snake Maizey...she's refused one mouse out of two, three feedings ago, then two of two, then one of one. I am taking her in to be "sexed" tomorrow. This is normal behaviour for a male in breeding season. It's too late to change her name if she _is_ a male. Then I'll have Milly the male pigeon and Maizey the male snake. I must subconsciously prefer female pets.

chickwhorips

08-07-2006, 08:51 AM

margo - thats a lot of berries. our berry season here is late. there hasn't been much rain or sunshine. poor little berries are really little! glad you got to pick some.

salsa - hope your mom gets better.

nanci - i hope you get your gender issue resolved with your snake. what kind? had a ball python for a while. i named her fido. i figured she was a girl, but who knows.

DrBee

08-07-2006, 08:52 AM

It's an easy procedure to determine sex. That would be pretty funny if she was a he. Maybe next time you could get a pet whose gender you can determine by external morphology. Hee hee ;)

Oh - and the hairy sheets - that's completely nasty! I've found hairs in the bathroom and had my room changed, but never hairs in the bed. Ewwwwwwww.

kelownagirl

08-07-2006, 08:59 AM

Margo - thinking about you lots... I wondered if you knew any of those reserve soldiers :(

I went to see my first criterium yesterday - very exciting! I saw the tail end of the Cat 1/2 women's division and then the Pro men's race. They had a 1 km circuit set up downtown and they raced for 55 minutes plus 2 laps. Three guys lapped the entire peleton (peloton?) 1-1/2 times so the verdict was pretty clear early on. There was one crash around a corner and I saw it just before it happened. Some road rash and cracked up bikes for two guys but no one too badly injured. One of the top women was a girl named Leah Goldstein who battled back from a terrible crash last year that left her bedridden and then in a wheelchair for 3 months. Pretty amazing story. Being a newbie cyclist, I've never heard of her but I imagine many of you have. :) She credits her determination to her seven years in the Israel army. Reminded me again of Margo...

Swimmer's Tail - anyone ever heard of that? We took our chocolate lab Gabriel out to the lake to swim and he had a great time. Next day he couldn't sit or move his tail at all. Took him into the vet and learned about swimmer's tail. Apparently Labs use their tail as a rudder and he was experiencing the same pain I get when I do a long ride. Poor guy...

Nanci - well done on your 200 km! I so want to try that someday. I did my first metric on the road bike a couple of days ago and can't imagine doubling that in one day. Is it fairly flat where you ride? Maybe I could do it if it was flatter. This trip was all hills and my legs still hurt two days later. Ah, but it's a good hurt.. :)

I am learning to enjoy white wine. Only trying the sweeter stuff - Erhenfelser, Gwurtztraminer (totally guessed on the spelling), and a sweet Reisling. Yummy to have something cooler to drink on those hot afternoons.

chickwhorips

08-07-2006, 10:09 AM

Swimmer's Tail - anyone ever heard of that? We took our chocolate lab Gabriel out to the lake to swim and he had a great time. Next day he couldn't sit or move his tail at all. Took him into the vet and learned about swimmer's tail. Apparently Labs use their tail as a rudder and he was experiencing the same pain I get when I do a long ride. Poor guy...

i've heard of that. i've known labs that have had their tail docked because they had a problem with that and/or hitting it against things.

i'm glad my big dog has her tail docked just because of the damage she could do if she had a whole tail. i hear her numb thumping and i can just imagin. though when i first got her i thought she was born with a small tail till i researched it bc she kept biting at it. i wasn't to keen on it at first, seemed kinda cruel to me. it doesn't seem to bother her now and as long as she's happy i'm happy.

DrBee

08-07-2006, 11:03 AM

I had a golden retriever (Allie) that would regularly clear the coffee table of it's contents with her tail. Both of my goldens would wag their tails so hard they're buts would wiggle all over the place. My black lab/golden mix wags his in a circle when he gets excited.

kelownagirl

08-07-2006, 11:13 AM

Lise

08-07-2006, 11:14 AM

Greetings and love to all--

Margo, I shared your post with my sister, who lived in Israel for 15 years. I told her your DP was a refusnik, and she said, "Oh, good man!" She's been part of a group that hosted Israeli refusniks on a speaking tour in the US. As a consequence of that, and of articles she writes, she's become persona-non-grata for many at her synagogue. If you'd like, I can PM you links to some of her articles about Israel/Palestine.

Salsa, hope your mom is doing better, and glad that TE can have a little part in keeping her mind busy.

Nanci--now I'm curious to know what Mazie turns out to be! Funny about genders, right? I can't imagine Ariel being a boy or Isaac being a girl, but when they were babies, what if someone told me they were the opposite?

Decent night on call, and now, to nap. L.

Tater

08-07-2006, 11:24 AM

LOL on the wiggling butts! My golden retriever, Angel, (what a misnomer!) knocked two wine glasses off my table the other night and broke the stems of both. Luckily we'd emptied the glasses already :) (I have a cat named Allie)

I am so glad my Australian Shepherd has his tail docked or he'd be clearing the coffee table as well! He truly is a 'wiggle butt'! :D

chickwhorips

08-07-2006, 11:41 AM

My golden retriever, Angel, (what a misnomer!) knocked two wine glasses off my table the other night and broke the stems of both. Luckily we'd emptied the glasses already :) (I have a cat named Allie)

peanut loves wine and always tries to drink mine, if its in hand or on table. kiska is more of a beer dog. i think my dogs are lushes. :eek:

Nanci

08-07-2006, 11:49 AM

She'll probably turn out to be a male, since I've been screaming at BF everytime he calls her a he, that "She's a GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I'm so excited- I found a program to measure snakes on a computer...

http://www.serpwidgets.com/Apps/apps.html

Guess what I'm doing the second I get home??

Brina

08-07-2006, 12:10 PM

our rotts both have their tails docked. I can't imagine the damage they would do with tails. Our third dog is a spare parts dog (she looks like she was made out of spare parts). When we first got her she was severely traumatized and severely malnourished (less than half of her current weight). One night, about a month after she joined our family we hear this thumping sound. We start ripping the house apart trying to find the source of the sound. It was mamie wagging her tail against the wood floors.

Margo, I cannot imagine what it is like living in your country right now. I have friends there and worry about them all the time.

Trek420

08-07-2006, 12:40 PM

Margo, our thoughts and prayers are with you. Yesterday my Mom and my sister who is Duck on Wheels here were at the Hiroshima Day observence in Santa Rosa.

Have we learned nothing? :confused:

DrBee

08-07-2006, 02:20 PM

[QUOTE=Trek420
Have we learned nothing? :confused:[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately not.

DrBee

08-08-2006, 06:01 AM

No posts last night??? That's odd.

I finally had the opportunity to try out the new shorts this morning! Yippee! Wow there was a lot of traffic out there today. Anyhoo - I like the shorts! They're not perfect, but they are comfy and better than what I had before :)

I have switched from Allegra to Clarinex for my skin sensitivity issues. Last night was the first night on the Clarinex - woo was I dizzy! I'm happy to say that I was not dizzy today and felt so much more alert. The Allegra was making me really zoned out.

Today - I go get my eyes checked and get new contacts :)

Lise - how did the shift go? Any new babies?

Lise

08-08-2006, 07:54 AM

I know...a lull in Thread Drift!

No new babies for me on that shift. I am glad to say that I got to sleep from 11:30 to 3 AM, got paged by two patients, told one to come to the hospital, and then slept again until she got there. It makes such a difference to get > 2 hr sleep.

The shift before that--Saturday--there was a beautiful birth of a little girl whose parents are Sudanese. We were in our Alternative Birth Center, so she delivered on a queen-sized bed, with me kneeling next to her on the bed. As soon as the baby was out and crying loudly, the dad jumped up, came around the side of the bed, threw his arms around me, started kissing my cheek, and saying THANK YOU! THANK YOU! It was so sweet. To see a dad so thrilled with the birth of his daughter. I've delivered over 600 babies--I've never been hugged and kissed like that by the dad! :D I was standing there with a sterile gown and gloves on, feeling very midwestern and stiff! :rolleyes: After all the "protective gear" was off, I gave him, the mom, and their friend big hugs as well. Who knew? The Sudanese are huggers! What a blessing. Every now and then I get to be part of a birth like that. Helps me remember how much I love my job.

Brina

08-08-2006, 08:00 AM

Lise

08-08-2006, 08:21 AM

Lise, I have a kind of controversial question for you. If people prefer, I will delete this off of thread drift.

I assume as a midwife you get the more "alternative" parents rather than the straight and narrow types. What are the circumcision stats among your clientel? I was amazed at the difference in numbers between when I lived in Evanston and when we moved just 10 minutes north.
The rate is low, but not because they're "alternative", but rather because we have a high proportion of Hispanic patients, who generally don't circ their babies. Not the answer you expected, right?! Our practice is the second oldest CNM midwifery practice in the city (oldest is at Cook County Hospital). When the practice started, ~ 30 years ago, it was mostly privately insured couples looking for the "alternative" midwifery experience. Our practice has evolved, and the patient mix is about 60% public aid clinics, 5-10% HMO, and the rest our "private" clinic. Some of the women from the public and HMO clinics are there because they sought us out, but many just walked in the door because that's what their insurance covers. They're happy with the midwifery care (if they don't want to see midwives, we refer them to our docs' clinic), but they didn't necessarily "choose" us for our philosophy. The clinic where I see patients is largely Hispanic, with a fair number of African immigrants, and the occasional American-born of various ethnicities.

If you'd like to discuss the specific question further, let's PM, OK? L.

Lise

08-08-2006, 08:28 AM

Here's the deal--last Thursday I noticed that I was having this wierd feeling in my chest, put my fingers on my pulse, and realized that the wierd feeling was my heart skipping beats. No pain, no shortness of breath, but uncomfortable, and irregular. Called the doc's office, am going in today for an EKG and whatever else she wants to do. I've laid off the training for the most part--I did run 3.5 miles Sat, and felt fine.

I'm just trying to act like a grownup instead of a rebellious kid. I want to ride my bike to the doc's, have her say, "It's all in your head" or "It's a benign arrythmia, you're fine", and then go out for a long ride. I have a tri in 11 days, and I'm not training this week. So what! If something's wrong, it's smart to wait and see, and then follow the advice of my doc. Sheesh. I am the worst patient.

Sooo...I'm going to drive to the doc's. Then I can go by the LBS, and buy a bike stand with my birthday gift certificates! I'm also going to get the Celeste water bottle cages to match my beauteous Bianchi. I thought it was silly to get matching cages when I got the bike...and I've been dreaming of them ever since! I saw a picture of a Bianchi with the celeste cages in mimitabby's RSVP pix, and made up my mind. :D If there's time after that, and I've been cleared by my doc, I'll get a ride in.

Of course I'll let you know what the doc says. L.

Trek420

08-08-2006, 08:51 AM

gaack, I hate being a grownup when I want to be the rebellious kid. But good call Lise. Let us know how things work out, I hope you're ok.

So I take it your heart wasn't skipping a beat over anyone? :cool:

Trekhawk

08-08-2006, 09:06 AM

Lise - I hope your Doctor has good news for you. Take care and let us know how you get on.

Lise

08-08-2006, 09:07 AM

So I take it your heart wasn't skipping a beat over anyone? :cool:HA! I wish! :p No such luck. And...I'm off! L.

DrBee

08-08-2006, 09:13 AM

Good luck at the doctor's office Lise!

maillotpois

08-08-2006, 09:41 AM

Wow - does the no posts evening on TE correspond directly with no deliveries by Lise, I wonder?

What a wonderful story about the Sudanese family.

Lisa - please update us ASAP on what the doctor tells you!!!

I am at the office - a rarity. I will be gone ALL next week, in Yosemite. We spend 4 days or so cmaping at Tuolomne and then a few days at the Wawona. I am looking forward to it! No biking this year (we usually bring bikes and this year we were going to do Tioga Pass) - oh well. Plenty of hiking, though.

Did I mention I am doing a marathon in October? I figure since I can't ride my bike, I gotta do something..... http://www.nike.com/nikemarathon/

chickwhorips

08-08-2006, 09:45 AM

lise - good luck at the dr. hopefull your rebellious kid side is right in thinking nothing major is wrong.

kelownagirl - know how you brought up swimmer's tail yesterday. well my friend's black lab got it yesterday. poor thing. just saw her and she's so sad. :(

Nanci

08-08-2006, 10:11 AM

Lise, let us know as soon as you hear anything!!

I'm sort of interested in the circ discussion, too. One of the procedures done in my department requires catheterization. New residents are surprised when I tell them girls are easier than boys. Many boys (of all types) are not circumsized these days, and often the foreskin can't be peeled back far enough for the radiologist to see the hole, so it's a blind poking around till he gets lucky. (Then, once the tube is in, you're still not home free because upset little boys can clamp down and prevent the catheter from advancing into the bladder! Little girls can't do that.)

I didn't take Maizey in to be sexed, because she seemed upset when I put her in a pillowcase to take her in to work, where she would have had to wait all day. I'll just take her on a day off. I studied her tail/body junction last night, and I still think she's a she.

But- I have this friend who has a pair of pigeons. The female had always laid two eggs, (replaced with wooden eggs as population control) but this time around laid four. The friend was asking if she should replace all four, or only leave two wooden eggs. My other friend Julie pointed out that the pair was actually two females- who would have thought of that?? (What's that saying doctors have about looking for horses when they hear hoofbeats, not zebras??)

We ate the poleno or whatever it was last night. Ok, but either I won't make it again or will try with different chili powder.

Grilling pork loin tonight.

I tried taking pics of Maizey and a measuring tape last night so I could try out the snake measuring software. So I'm trying to get her to hold still, and not overlap herself, kind of herding her into position with my bare foot, and BF starts screaming at me to stop kicking the snake, (AS IF!!!) and when I finally was done, she rewarded me by taking a crap right in the middle of the living room carpet...And no, it doesn't pick up nicely with a spoon like bird poo...

I rode the motorcycle in a skirt last night- unplanned errand running after work. It stayed down.

chickwhorips

08-08-2006, 10:48 AM

I tried taking pics of Maizey and a measuring tape last night so I could try out the snake measuring software. So I'm trying to get her to hold still, and not overlap herself, kind of herding her into position with my bare foot, and BF starts screaming at me to stop kicking the snake, (AS IF!!!) and when I finally was done, she rewarded me by taking a crap right in the middle of the living room carpet...And no, it doesn't pick up nicely with a spoon like bird poo...

I rode the motorcycle in a skirt last night- unplanned errand running after work. It stayed down.

gotta love snake poo. i hated cleaning that up. if it wasn't so runny, but i guess if you left it long enough it would harden.

glad the skirt stayed down for ya. i'm sure you got a lot of looks too, a few cat calls perhaps?

Brina

08-08-2006, 10:58 AM

Lise, glad you are being a grown-up. I never manage to pull that off. Update as asap.

MP - you can't bike so you're gonna run a marathon. I can't say that is a direction my brain would ever go. Have a great trip.

Lise

08-08-2006, 11:30 AM

OK: Here's what we know. The EKG showed that my heart is skipping beats. Doh! I knew that! :p It's premature ventricular contractions (PVCs), and most likely benign. She drew some blood (CBC for anemia, electrolytes, thyroid panel), and ordered an Echocardiogram. The soonest I can get that done is next Tuesday.

My doc speculates this is a peri-menopause thing, with hormonal shifts. It's funny; I feel considerably younger and stronger than I did at 40. I've suppressed my periods with the Nuva ring for 3 years, as treatment for the endometriosis. So I don't even think much about my hormones these days! I do get hot flashes sometimes--just annoying. So now PVCs? It's uncomfortable, but not dangerous. Unless the blood work and echo show otherwise.

Upshot: I can train and race. YEA! I should cut back on caffeine. OK, if I have to. :rolleyes: If it will ease this uncomfortable feeling when my heart skips beats, then OK. Less coffee and diet Coke it is.

To celebrate the fact that I will appearantly live to fight another day, I went to the LBS and bought the Celeste bottle cages, some new gloves, and ordered a Terry Zero X to try out. That should be in Thurs, so I'll get in some riding before the tri, and see if I like it.
....................
MP--why is it you can hike and run, but not bike? Is it the falling factor? I'm such a clutz on my own two feet that I fall more when running than biking (so far, knock wood). I guess a fall off the bike could be much more catastrophic in terms of bleeding. Your vacation sounds great.
....................
I'm thinking of going up to cheer for IM Wisconsin in Madison, 9/10. It's about a 3 hr drive. I was thinking of vounteering, but they want you there for orientation meetings the week before (of course), and I'm not going to make that trip twice in one week! I dated someone who lived up there for 18 months, years ago. What a pain in the butt that drive was. 'Specially cuz the relationship was largely a pain in the butt, too! :rolleyes: Interspersed, of course, with moments of joy...nothing like intermittant reinforcement, eh? :cool:

DrBee

08-08-2006, 11:30 AM

Wow - does the no posts evening on TE correspond directly with no deliveries by Lise, I wonder? [QUOTE]

Perhaps... MWBR

[QUOTE]Did I mention I am doing a marathon in October? I figure since I can't ride my bike, I gotta do something..... http://www.nike.com/nikemarathon/

You just can't sit still, can you ;)

Have fun on your camping trip! That sounds like fun!

SadieKate

08-08-2006, 11:37 AM

You can blame some on the lull on me but I was handling some logistics for a trip, printing AV labels and shipping same off to yellow, and mapping out two longs routes on routeslip. I was a busy girl last night!!!

Somewhere in there, I talked with hubby for about 5 mins.

Lise

08-08-2006, 11:38 AM

[QUOTE=maillotpois]Wow - does the no posts evening on TE correspond directly with no deliveries by Lise, I wonder? [QUOTE]

Perhaps... MWBRFish, you're the scientist! Maybe we should graph it and see if there's a correlation? ;)

I'm also eating semi-sweet chocolate chips to celebrate my benign heart arrythmia. Hmmm...I could really get a lot of "celebrating" in, couldn't I?!? I decided ~for the moment~ against the bike stand. They're huge! I don't have that kind of room in the communal basement. For the time being, I'll turn the bike over on a tarp, to protect the seat and handle bars...oh, wait, I've got the aero bars, crud, that may not work. Hmmmm. Oh, and the bike stand is more expensive than I imagined. If I really like the Zero X, there's the outlay of money. If I don't, I'll stick with the Serfas saddle and rethink the bike stand. The gift certs covered the cages and gloves :D , and a little over half of the saddle. YAY!

SadieKate

08-08-2006, 11:41 AM

Lise, glad it sounds fairly minor. I swear I was getting heart issues when I was on BC pills. Since I was constantly struggling to find one with the right balance of chemicals, I just decided to try it without. So much better! No more headaches pre-flow, no dizziness/nausea episodes, no weird heart beats, etc. I also think my nightsweats are better.

If peri-menopause is this much fun, I can't wait for the real thing.

DrBee

08-08-2006, 11:43 AM

Lise - glad to hear it wasn't anything worse and that you can still train and race! That must be a big relief.

Reducing caffeine intake is not a bad thing. Did you ever do the Daphnia experiment in biology class in college - you know - feed daphnia caffeine and watch the little things just about explode. Lovely image - sorry. That was enough to make me cut back, though. Then my peripheral vision got wiggly, then I started trying to have a baby and cut out the caffeine all together. Now if I drink a big cup of coffee (I can have small cups) - my heart feels like it's going about 100 mph. Not the best feeling.

Enjoy your new bottle holders. You must post a pic when you get them installed!

So - when do you get the other test results back? Perimenopause...that's lousy.

maillotpois

08-08-2006, 11:43 AM

Wow, Lise, good news I guess on the PVC thing. I hope it is not something that will get worse. Having an echo is weird. Like an ultrasound for pregnancy - but there's no baby in there!!?? It hurt when the super stern woman was squishing my boob to get the angle right.

And you're right on doing the marathon versus cycling - it is the falling factor. A fall on the bike could be catastrophic, and I do fall on the bike. If I fall running, I will bleed more than other folks, but my chances of actually dying are not that much higher. Weighing risks. And I will mostly walk this marathon. I walked one of my three previous marathons. It's not so bad.

Brina - I just can't get over how cute your dog is. I love TE'ers with dog avatars. Your puppy looks like my Meg when she was little. Little teddy bears. I probably complimented you on it before, but it just keeps making me smile.

maillotpois

08-08-2006, 11:44 AM

[QUOTE=fishdr]

I'm also eating semi-sweet chocolate chips to celebrate my benign heart arrythmia. Hmmm...I could really get a lot of "celebrating" in, couldn't I?!?

LOL!! I celebrated not dying with some good Scharffenberger chocolate....

Lise

08-08-2006, 11:53 AM

Did you ever do the Daphnia experiment in biology class in college - you know - feed daphnia caffeine and watch the little things just about explode.
Ummm, no, does PETA know about this little "experiment"? :eek:

I've gone off and back on caffeine so many times...with my totally goofy schedule, I will have to keep drinking some caffeine, but I'll cut back. I'm not like some people, who appearantly drink 5 shot lattes...:p

I'll probably get a call from my doc with the blood test results on Thursday. The soonest I could schedule the echo is next Tues. Of course I'll let y'all know what I learn.

I definitely deserve better chocolate than Mrs. Fields' chips. For now, I'm off for a celebratory bike ride. Wahoo! :D

chickwhorips

08-08-2006, 12:05 PM

lise - i'm glad to hear things aren't that serious and you can keep training. good luck on cutting back the caffeine. when you get your other test done let us know what it says.

Brina

08-08-2006, 12:23 PM

some people, who appearantly drink 5 shot lattes

:o can't imagine who she is talking about

bikerz

08-08-2006, 12:25 PM

Hi Lise -

Wow - I'm glad everything turned out fine - I get PVCs too - I've had them for 18 years (following heart surgery) and they don't bother me a bit. They do feel wierd when they happen - especially at night because it's quiet and I notice them more, but other than that they are not an issue. It's fun to watch the consternation on the faces of people who have to take my pulse for one reason or another when I'm having a PVC run - they're thinking "what the heck?? :confused: - start counting again..."

Welcome to the "syncopated heartbeat" club!

DrBee

08-08-2006, 12:44 PM

:o can't imagine who she is talking about

She knows who she is...

DrBee

08-08-2006, 12:48 PM

Your news is worthy of Cadbury chocolate Lise. That's yummy stuff (as FishJr would say). I was in the pharmacy yesterday waiting to get the new meds and came up some gigantic cadbury bars. Dairy milk. Yummmmm.... I had one of these in Newfoundland and ate just a little bit each night.

chickwhorips

08-08-2006, 12:58 PM

Cadbury chocolate.... mmmmmmm........

DrBee

08-08-2006, 08:01 PM

Freaky - another slow night in TD.

Veronica

08-08-2006, 08:13 PM

I've been shopping for books for my classroom. So far I have nearly $200 worth in my Amazon account, and I'm not done. I'll add more... I'll have to decide just exactly what I'm going to focus on first and the rest will sit in the Wish List, Save for Later or whatever Amazon calls it.

It takes good books to foster a love of reading in kids.

Beginning of the year topic choices - The Holocaust, Native Americans or Explorers. Tradition is Native Americans. :)

V.

SadieKate

08-08-2006, 08:23 PM

All is not happy here. We're hooked on the new SciFi series "Eureka." The on-screen and internet program guides both say it should be airing. Instead we have the infantile and moronic super heros series. Of course, Dish Network has no way to talk to a human being. Very effective customer service. If it doesn't fit into one of their FAQ recorded messages, you are SOL.

Veronica

08-08-2006, 08:27 PM

We Tivoed it at 6. Haven't watched it yet.

V.

SadieKate

08-08-2006, 08:33 PM

Do you have Dish Network? Is it showing now? I swear the software goes screwy when it downloads here. Weird things happen.

maillotpois

08-08-2006, 08:37 PM

She knows who she is...

She does!!!

SadieKate

08-08-2006, 09:16 PM

Ah, Eureka is on now. Happiness is restored. Only program we're currently regularly watching these days.

snapdragen

08-08-2006, 09:33 PM

And I for some unknown reason am sitting through Hellboy.....:rolleyes:

Veronica

08-09-2006, 05:14 AM

Do you have Dish Network? Is it showing now? I swear the software goes screwy when it downloads here. Weird things happen.

No, we have DirectV and Tivo.

V.

betagirl

08-09-2006, 06:01 AM

I just looked at this and saw there were over 2600 replies to this thread. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to try to catch up on what everyone said..... :D

Nanci

08-09-2006, 06:34 AM

Beta, you're not allowed to post until you read everything from the beginning!!

Just kidding...

DrBee

08-09-2006, 07:30 AM

Heh Heh Beta - okay, you only have to read the last week's worth ;)

SK - we watched Eureka last night, too (DirectTV and Tivo).

I was at work at 6:15 this morning - starting a new experiment. This is going to be a long day. I don't sample until 2:00 pm.

betagirl

08-09-2006, 07:39 AM

Considering I have these 2 major projects to do, and I've been motivated to do everything else BUT them the past 2 weeks, I suspect I just might read the whole damn thread.....

maillotpois

08-09-2006, 09:03 AM

Yeah, Beta. You have to read the whole thread. It's like hazing.

kelownagirl

08-09-2006, 09:05 AM

It takes me an hour to catch up every time I go away for a week!

Nanci

08-09-2006, 09:14 AM

I was just reading a post from Jenny's Sister about how she hopes the family will be at the memorial ride, but it is hard for them to go there after the time spent up there searching. I can understand that. In Florida, there are official (with DOT signs) and unofficial roadside shrines for where people have died in traffic accidents. It makes me wonder why it is important for some families to memorialize the actual site where the person was last alive. You see the sites all over down here- fresh flowers, white crosses, photo albums...When I lived in MN, people didn't do that. But in Black Hills South Dakota, you'd see signs (official) on the side of the road at the scenes of fatalities, and in FLorida the signs actually have the person's name printed on them.

Just what I'm thinking about.

Eden

08-09-2006, 09:18 AM

Do you have Dish Network? Is it showing now? I swear the software goes screwy when it downloads here. Weird things happen.

Switch to Direct TV if you can - O man - they have the *best* customer service. When we were having freaky problems with our box (it kept deleting all of our channels off of the recieved list every couple of weeks) not only did I get a live customer service person, but when she couldn't figure out what was wrong she connected me with the enigineers who actually program the thing. I've never had that happen before and they actually fixed the problem.

chickwhorips

08-09-2006, 09:24 AM

Do you have Dish Network? Is it showing now? I swear the software goes screwy when it downloads here. Weird things happen.

our dish network REALLY goes screwy here. then again we are so far away we have 6 foot dishes that are almost pointed to the ground. at least we have tv.

You have to read the whole thread. It's like hazing.

i read the whole thing and got caught up, ok so almost the whole thing, and did more scanning then reading. does that still count? was i hazed properly?

SadieKate

08-09-2006, 09:28 AM

maillotpois

08-09-2006, 09:34 AM

Only time we ever used a dish was on our RV (rented) in France when we were trying to watch the Tour on TV while waiting for the Tour to come by. We finally had to ask these old Belgian firefighters whom we befriended to help us. The book was pretty confusing. And there was the language barrier. And the pastis. All of which made climbing on the roof of the RV and getting the signal right a little confusing at first. Once we got the system "down" (knowing which channel and setting to be on was key) it got much easier to put it up there every time we stopped the car.

People have their sat TVs facing out of their RVs there, so if you don't have an RV, you can just walk by and watch on someone else's TV. It is all very social and fun. The year before we didn't have a RV/TV, and we'd just seen the tour go by and walked back down the hill to watch on someone else's RV-TV just in time to see the infamous Beloki crash. Having just seen them live 10 minutes before that was really chilling.

SadieKate

08-09-2006, 09:47 AM

Some friends who went to the Tour last year brought back the directions for a TV they bought and could never get to work. Something had obviously been lost in the translation because it kept talking about a cowgirl. That was only the start of the list of "huh?" items.

Eden

08-09-2006, 09:48 AM

Thanks, I'll remember that. I started shopping around when it appeared that Dish wasn't going to get OLN back but then they brought it back in the nick of time.

I may still go look at rates. I hate the channel packaging. We have to pay for a bagillion channels when we use about 20. OLN, Cartoon, SciFi, etc., gotta have those.

Dish didn't work for almost a year after the installation. They replaced everything but the dish itself. They sent out a supervisor to look at everything. Still had problems. Bubba finally got up on the roof himself and pointed the dish. Voila. Amazing how actually applying the rules of azimuth, altitude and magnetic north makes a difference. Buncha of idiots that can't use a basic compass.

Of course, I was petrified the entire time because our roof has a steep pitch and I hate having loved ones up there.

Yeah - I know what you mean - the hubby installed our dish. We had our Talkabouts out and he was up on the roof (he's afraid of heights too) and I was down watching for the
signal ...nothing....nothing...hailstorm!!!....nothing... then there it was!- so I started shouting stop! stop! into the radio. Poor guy - he's been loosening the dish to turn it some when it slipped down and he had to catch it and that was the exact right point to get a good signal. So there he is up on the roof in the hail, hanging on to the dish so that it doesn't move and trying to figure out how he's going to tighten it down without messing it up and answer me as I'm down there telling him to stop its perfect.

SadieKate

08-09-2006, 09:51 AM

Just hold it there, dear. That's fine! Don't mind the hail. It's not putting dents in the cars yet so it's tiny. :D

maillotpois

08-09-2006, 10:02 AM

SadieKate

08-09-2006, 10:06 AM

Hé, je suis à moitié français ! Explique beaucoup . . .

I hope Babelfish translated correctly.

chickwhorips

08-09-2006, 10:22 AM

i like this babelfish thing. its fun!

maillotpois

08-09-2006, 10:28 AM

Hé, je suis à moitié français ! Explique beaucoup . . .

I hope Babelfish translated correctly.

Computers. I have never tried a computer translator thing. I just rely on my rusty archetypal childhood French.

"These are the crazy frogs..." Roughly.

SadieKate

08-09-2006, 10:34 AM

I know what you said, just not sure if Babelfish translated my response correctly. Sure hate to find out I said something completely rude, only partly rude would be okay though.:p

You can tell my 2 years of college French really stuck with me, huh? I can read a bit but not speak it at all.

Nanci

08-09-2006, 10:35 AM

http://rinkworks.com/dialect/ (Don't look if you need to get work done...)

Here is an example of MP's RV comments:

Only time we evah used a dish was on our RV (rented) in France when we were tryin' t'watch th' Tour on TV while waitin' fo' th' Tour t'come by. We finally had t'ax these old Belgian firefighters whom we befriended t'he'p us. Th' book was purdy cornfusin'. An' thar was th' language barrier. An' th' pastis. All of which made climbin' on th' roof of th' RV an' gittin' th' signal right a li'l cornfusin' at fust. Once we got th' system "down" (knowin' which channel an' settin' t'be on was key) it got much easier t'put it up thar ev'ry time we stopped th' car. Varmints haf their sat TVs facin' outta their RVs thar, so eff'n yo' doesn't haf an RV, yo' kin jest walk by an' watch on someone else's TV. It is all mighty social an' fun, as enny fool kin plainly see. Th' year befo'e we didn't haf a RV/TV, an' we'd jest see th' tour hoof it by an' walked back down th' hill t'watch on someone else's RV-TV jest in time t'see th' infamous Beloki crash. Havin' jest see them live 10 minutes befo'e thet was pow'ful chillin'.

chickwhorips

08-09-2006, 10:43 AM

http://rinkworks.com/dialect/ (Don't look if you need to get work done...)

work, duh...uh...? what's work, duh...uh...? i'm a gobehnemnt workeh who's boss is out of town. i don't know de meanigg.

DrBee

08-09-2006, 10:44 AM

I received a spam email one day (you know - the nigeria dead relative ones) that was in french. That was unusual. I gave it to one of my colleages that is French. She thought I had suddenly remembered the 5 years of french that I took and can barely remember and had become creative. Unlikely.

Nanci

08-09-2006, 10:55 AM

I gots one uh de wasted nigerian relatives ones some few years ago, and ah' had Dillbird reply sayin' he would be happy t'hide deir bre'd fo' dem, but he had some few quesshuns fust. Dey neva' wrote back. Ya' know?..

DrBee

08-09-2006, 11:01 AM

dachshund

08-09-2006, 12:25 PM

I have to go run and sample - so no time to do the dialect thing. Having dillbird reply reminded me of something Mr. Fish did. He replied to some survey or something with our dog's name (Roux). He called him Roux DeDog. That dog has received newspapers, magazines, and all sorts of junkmail and phone calls. You never know who you name will be sold to! Off to sample the fishies!
That's really funny.

I have a mental image of my dog (pictured here) sitting at the computer, looking intently at the screen, looking down at his credit card, carefully typing in the numbers... as he orders stuff online.

"Chili - put down my credit card! Get your own."

Lise

08-09-2006, 02:45 PM

It's a good thing it's not toooo easy to buy stuff on line, or I'd have stuff arriving from all over that Isaac that cat ordered when he felt it necessary to sleep on the keyboard.

Love the dialectacizer. Can I find one that translates my (very good) Spanish into Spanish that my patients from the highlands of Ecuador can understand? One day I walked in the room and said, "Buenas tardes, yo soy Lise, la partera." The little Ecuadoran woman tapped herself on the chest and replied, "NO SPEEK ENGLEES!" I said, (in Spanish), "But I'm speaking Spanish!" She replied, "NO ENGLEES!" Sigh. :confused: :rolleyes:

Good news on the medical front: All the tests were normal. She checked iron level, electrolytes, thyroid. All fine. Echocardiogram is next Tuesday. I'm working on the less-caffeine thing. Again, sigh. Glad to have the good news from the doc.

PS: Beta, yeah, you gotta read all the posts. Sorry. We did, and we can't let you slack, much as we like you. That pesky doctoral program will wait!

SadieKate

08-09-2006, 02:51 PM

maillotpois

08-09-2006, 03:00 PM

Oh man, Nanci - here I was struggling not to play with Babel fish all day and now you give us this!!!

Lise - god news about the medical tests. However, for me having to cut back caffeine would be EXTREMELY difficult. I only have one a day, though... :rolleyes:

Lise

08-09-2006, 03:00 PM

Well, you know how Isaac translates in Hebrew, don't you? At least according to all the baby name dictionaries, it means "Laughing One." I keep telling Izaak the Wonder Poodle that it doesn't mean he can laugh at us as we jump to his every whim (it's really my hubby that does the jumping :rolleyes: ).Yes! Isaac is so named because I got him from a shelter when I thought Ariel had gone missing forever. I wanted joy back in my life, so I named him for laughter. The day after I brought him home, a neighbor found Ariel (whose name means Lion of God). Poor little beast was down 20% of her body weight and was terrified. She'd run out the door one day when I was bringing in laundry. I didn't notice she was gone until the next morning, because she can be (or was) a pretty secretive cat. Can't even tell you how miserable I was with her gone. She was gone for 7 days. I went out looking for her morning and night...put up signs all over the neighborhood...and of course she was found under the bushes of a neighbor's house. Fortunately she had a collar and tag on.

She was not thrilled to find Isaac in her home! Took about 6 months before she could look at him without hissing. They're best buddies now, 14 years later.

snapdragen

08-09-2006, 03:20 PM

Lise

08-09-2006, 03:33 PM

Lise - good news about the medical tests. However, for me having to cut back caffeine would be EXTREMELY difficult. I only have one a day, though... :rolleyes:
Yeah, it's a question of you can drink that caffeine, but you'll feel like there's dark matter collapsing into itself in your chest every couple of minutes... (like the dramatic astronomy analogy?! :rolleyes: )...or you can cut back on the caffeine. Blech. Well, which is worse? OK, the feeling of my heart misfiring is preeeetty darned unpleasant! I bought some decaf French Roast last night. Of course, I had just stocked the freezer with regular French Roast! ARGH!

Lise

08-09-2006, 03:36 PM

I took Chloe in for her booster shots today. Because she had a reaction to them last time, she has to stay at the vets for a couple hours. It's so quiet around the house right now!

Oh, and Beta - there will be a test!
Hope the Chloester is fine and home soon.

Yeah, beta, the test is a) name everybody Lise's dated this year AND b) name all the wines everybody else has drunk! (fortunately part "b" is considerably longer than part "a". Fortunate for me. Not for you. :eek: Bwahahahaha! :p )

chickwhorips

08-09-2006, 03:37 PM

lise - glad to hear things came back good.

chickwhorips

08-09-2006, 04:17 PM

i feel a bit left out.

everyone has a 'team' so i was wondering if i could get onto team danger. i ride around in danger all the time so does that count? that and i have no one else to ride with so i'm lonely.

SadieKate

08-09-2006, 04:22 PM

Are you ever a danger to others?

Did you answer yes? If so, sure. Join the fray. :p

chickwhorips

08-09-2006, 04:29 PM

i'm a danger to the new people out in the bush that aren't use to seeing a cyclist. they don't know whether to hit me, stay away from me or what.

i actually had one car drive by me 3 times in less than 5 mins trying to figure out if what they saw was right. i waved everytime too, the the looks kept getting stranger. i think they thought they were hallucinating.

winddance

08-09-2006, 04:33 PM

I have makeup on!! I had to document this moment! I took myself to the Clinique counter today, because one should probably purchase new stuff more often than once every six years. I feel spoiled.

I could *totally* get used to this not working thing. I'm glad it's only for a short amount of time (or I would spend all of my money) but it sure is nice!

Lise

08-09-2006, 04:58 PM

chickwhorips

08-09-2006, 05:01 PM

lise - sorry the run didn't feel so good. you feel better now that your done? i want go out now, but its raining. i bet its a cold rain.

oh well.... i gotta go.

maillotpois

08-09-2006, 05:33 PM

chick - Team Embolism is always looking for new members.... If I were you, though, I'd go with Team Danger.

maillotpois

08-09-2006, 05:47 PM

This morning I overslept, so no run. Waited 'til ~6 PM so it would be a bit cooler, and at least not sunny. Fine. 82 degrees. OK. Ran 2.75 miles. Did not feel great. Chest pressure. Stopped at one point and counted. 18 PVCs in one minute. No wonder. This sucks. No pain, no shortness of breath...well, gasping for breath, but just the usual! :p

Good news is, my legs feel fine, not even tired. I'm thinking, how can I get faster when my heart mis-fires so many times? Blech.

Okay - that is super scary and weird. Have you ever had this before? Why the heck are you getting it now?? What is causing it??? Can it be controlled - other than skipping caffeine? What the heck!!?!?

I have a friend who has the cardiac arrythmia where his heart beats super fast at times. He was unable to complete the Death Ride this year because he kept having to get off his bike and lie down to get his heart rate down. Scary stuff!!!

snapdragen

08-09-2006, 05:49 PM

DrBee

08-09-2006, 06:05 PM

I only have one a day, though... :rolleyes:

Uhhhhhhh - would that be one 5-shot latte? That's cheating! I believe you've earned it, though.

DrBee

08-09-2006, 06:09 PM

Lordy girls - I worked a long day today. Tomorrow won't be much better. This is the time of year when I do all of my projects at work. The fish are finally big enough to sample. I go non-stop from now until March!

Chick - Snap is right. You could be the captain - bears and all. I seem to have magnetic abilities - attracting cars.

Lise - are you going to report the problems today to your doctor. It might help put the puzzle pieces together. Take it easy!

Lise

08-09-2006, 06:59 PM

Yeah, yeah...blech. It is impossible to say "when this started" because I've had similar feelings before, just attributed it to other things, like gallstones, heat, fatigue. The doc said she thought it was benign, and probably due to hormonal changes of peri-menopause. I'm going to do some searching in the medical literature about PVCs/menopause/athletes. It is wierd to see the EKG. I'm no expert, but I know what normal looks like. So mine looks like ... normal, normal, normal, wiggley!, normal, normal... I want to smack myself in the chest like the old Marcus Welby episode.

Kind of makes me feel a bit better about not feeling great in the chest when I run--if my heart's skipping all those beats, how could I feel good? I'm still doing the Pleasant Prairie Tri (unless the echo shows I shouldn't for some reason), but I'm going to take it easier on the run. Not be ashamed if I can't run the whole thing. I suck at the swim--that's always just survive and get out of the water--I love the bike, so no problem there--and, well, if I can't run much, I can't run much. We shall see. I'm praying for relatively cool weather that weekend. That will help.
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Ironically, I think "Team Danger" came about because various members would be ruled out from donating bone marrow, or put on some "maybe, maybe not" list. Mine was gallstones at the time. Now we can add Wiggley! heartrate to my qualifications as a Team Danger member. I'm not even going near those Team Emboli girls. They might be recruiting. :p

winddance

08-09-2006, 07:06 PM

Lise, what's a PVC?

Lise

08-09-2006, 07:20 PM

Lise, what's a PVC?
Ah, sorry. Premature Ventricular Contraction.

From my old anatomy text: "A form of arrhythmia which arises when a small region of the heart becomes more excitable than normal, causing an occasional abnormal impulse to be generated between normal impulses. The region from which the abnormal impulse is generated is called an ectopic focus...ectopic foci may be caused by emotional stress, excessive intake of stimulants such as caffeine or nicotine, lack of sleep, and local ischemic areas of cardiac muscle."

Doesn't say anything about peri-menopause, but the book was published in 1984...:rolleyes: I've got some research to do in the current literature.

So...let's review. Emotional stress? Check. Blame that stupid guy from April. :p Excessive intake of caffeine? Well, some intake, at least. No nicotine, of course. Lack of sleep? Well, duh! I'm a midwife! Ischemic areas of cardiac muscle? I certainly hope not. I'd think that would be painful. The echocardiogram next Tuesday is an ultrasound of the heart muscle. It will show if there are any structural reasons for this.

I am used to just pushing through things--we have a saying in midwifery, "You can do anything for 12 hours." (Most of us have worked both 24 and 12 hour shifts. 12 is better.) But...not really. As SK and MP know, you can't control some things. Heck, I know this from my endometriosis and infertility. But my heart? You kind of count on that to just keep steady on. I'll keep you guys (and yes, my doc, too!) posted. Thanks for your loving concern. L.

KnottedYet

08-09-2006, 07:51 PM

Giving up caffiene? NO. Give up running? OK.

Just leave me the caffiene!

Glad you're tracking this one down, Lise. (I keep seeing PVC and thinking "polyvinyl chloride")

Lise

08-09-2006, 07:59 PM

Giving up caffiene? NO. Give up running? OK.

Just leave me the caffiene!

Glad you're tracking this one down, Lise. (I keep seeing PVC and thinking "polyvinyl chloride")
I just did a search, and appearantly they're called VPBs (ventricular premature beats) nowadays. (You know health care. Gotta change up the abbreviations every so often :rolleyes: ) I found a good patient ed handout...and...can't figure out how to attach it here. Anyways, basically said what my anatomy text said. Not dangerous unless you have a weak heart muscle, can be annoying. My doc said that exercise can *help* them, so keep on. They certainly are not *helping* me exercise!

I wonder if this is a consequence of 13 years of the crazy life in midwifery...18 years in obstetrics (5 as a nurse before becoming a midwife). Too many jolts of adrenaline to the heart. :confused:

winddance

08-09-2006, 08:00 PM

I think of pipes. Shows you how much I know. ;)

Lise, I'm glad you're tracking this one down, too. There are lots of things that you can do without lots of other things, but hearts are important. Take care of yourself!

Nanci

08-10-2006, 04:52 AM

Doesn't this make you want a baby???

Lise

08-10-2006, 05:03 AM

um, it's a baby what? Having seen Milly's baby pictures, I'm thinking pigeon (a good guess with Nanci, anyways!) I saw a picture of a newborn baby panda--very pink and bristley.

Gooood news--I got 7 hours of sleep here in the call room! Not one page. I woke up several times to look at the clock, as usual, but I slept in between, and was horizontal the whole time. YAY! I'm going to see some ladies who had their babies yesterday, and then I'm off at 10. Performance Bike, though not the greatest shopping experience, *is* just down the street from the hospital. I'm going to go see what the tail end of their sale looks like.

See y'all later...

betagirl

08-10-2006, 05:18 AM

Giving up caffiene? NO. Give up running? OK.

I agree totally.

So I'm reading about this foiled terror plot in the UK, and have to laugh at the pictures of Heathrow on CNN.com and the "chaos". Has anyone ever flown out of Heathrow? It always looks like that. Nothing travels smoothly or quickly through there. CDG in Paris is worse. Those are probably stock photos. :D

I also have problems with the "death on an unimaginable scale" comment. 20 planes, 300 people each on average is 6000. Yes that's 6000 too many. But I surely think if you read a little history of countries in, say, Africa you can imagine more than 6000. I'm sure more than 6000 people have been killed in Iraq.

Sorry, political rant over. I just can't stand the sensationalism of these news stories. Would I fly to London today? Absolultely. I have some ziploc bags. :D
My friend just told me they're going to have "milk testers". I wonder if Napoleon Dynammite will be there. "This one tastes like the cow got into an onion patch."

Bicyclette

08-10-2006, 06:01 AM

Trek420

08-10-2006, 06:01 AM

betagirl, I agree totally. And .... I always question the timing.

"My friend just told me they're going to have "milk testers"."

Alrighty, "you're flying with some French wine? Some British Ale? Step to the side, I have to try that. It's for Homeland security precaution of course"

Nanci, uh, no, that doesn't make me want to have kids but it is cute.

Off to pump the tires, got my shorts on, might as well ride to work.

DrBee

08-10-2006, 06:40 AM

And .... I always question the timing.

I had the same thought.

DrBee

08-10-2006, 06:42 AM

Nanci - Perhaps that's a face only a mother could love...or you, of course.

dachshund

08-10-2006, 07:59 AM

betagirl, I agree totally. And .... I always question the timing.

Thank you - that was the first thing that came to mind. The day after an anti-war candidate won, we have this sensational news and the warning levels at their highest. I suppose it could be a coincidence.

"Now, kids, don't forget to be afraid."
OK, I've filled my political quota for the day. That's enough, Amy...

Nanci

08-10-2006, 07:59 AM

I found a bird exactly like that laying in the middle of the road when I lived in Minnesota. I _thought_ it was a pigeon of some sort, but wasn't sure. The guys that were fixing our house after the tornado said it was a baby Great Blue Heron!!! I'm sure...That was my beloved Dil_bert_, who was with me only till Christmas of that year, the worst year of my life.

I won't give up caffeine, even though it occasionally makes my eye twitch for two weeks at a time...

KnottedYet

08-10-2006, 08:07 AM

My DPITA is flying through France to get to Germany today. She called me at blink:30 a.m. in a tizzy over all this.

At least if she gets stranded in Paris at CDG, she could take a train into Germany. (she'll only be a couple hundred miles from where she's going)

I'm thinking today will be a very safe day to fly, but a very slow one. As long as she can get all her connections into France it should work out. It's a British plane into Germany. That'll probably be very late.

I'll worry all day anyway.

Lise

08-10-2006, 08:09 AM

Ooh! Ooh! Nanci! I meant to tell you! On my walk from the clinic to the car yesterday, I saw one very dead sparrow in the grass, and one...dead? little black bird in the street next to my car. As I approached, his wing twitched, and I saw that his eyes were open. He was lying on his belly, with both wings spread out. I didn't see any obvious trauma. I turned to the car to look for something flat to scoop him up and put him on the grass, and...he flew away! Just resting? :confused: I thought maybe some bigger bird had attacked him and he fell...I know so little about bird ways. I was glad he could fly away, and I thought, "I must tell Nanci".
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KN, I agree with you, probably a safe day for flying, but still, a worrisome one. Hang in there. L.

maillotpois

08-10-2006, 08:23 AM

"Now, kids, don't forget to be afraid."

Perfect!! Exactly right.

I will say I am glad our vacation next week involves camping in the woods instead of airport lines....

Well, Lise, I guess this PVC thing is being managed/investigated okay - but the whole chest pain business really concerned me. It's one thing to have your heart do some wonky things - but when it causes pain, that seems a bit odd.

I have finally traced the cause of my chest pain (other than the emboli) - it is Tuesday spin class with BEN. Any other spin class I have been fine with really bringing the effort level down, as I suspected that it was a high HR that led to chest pain the following day. Well, with Ben's spin class it is really hard to bring the level down. I know it's self-directed, etc. but he's just super intense and really motivating. SO I either have to skip Tuesdays or have a little chat with him explaining my bad self and why I won't be sweating as much.

Veronica

08-10-2006, 08:29 AM

Have the chat - don't skip the class. And stop working so hard!

V.

Trek420

08-10-2006, 08:31 AM

fishdr "I had the same thought"

This is so cool that sometimes we think the same thoughts.

I had a nice bike to work .... right up to the last block with a verbal encounter with a snotty whiner of a jaywalking pedestrian.

So my good mood is broken, till I log onto TE :p There now, I feel better. Now I'll get to work and Mallot, have a chat but you don't have to proove anything to anyone, spin your own spin.

chickwhorips

08-10-2006, 09:05 AM

chick - Team Embolism is always looking for new members....

not sure if i would fit into that one. don't know much about it.

chickwhorips

08-10-2006, 09:09 AM

to most of you, except those down under, have been doing this for a while, but last night i was actually able to run in shorts! :eek:
it was about 55*, misting and no wind. threw the shorts on and went out the door without a second thought. it was so nice. it was actually the first time i ran in shorts and they were my bran spankin new UA compression shorts, which i really like. they didn't creap at all.
of course today its blowin hard, raining and cold, but its ok because i got out in shorts yesterday.

Trekhawk

08-10-2006, 09:18 AM

I just read that too - about the milk - I read that if you're taking milk for your baby you have to have someone who will sample it.

Would I fly to London today?? NO!!! but then I won't fly anyday if I don't have to - I hate, hate, hate to fly - not because of terrorist incidents but because of crashing :eek: - I'm abdolutely phobic - so much so that my husband and I are discussing a transatlantic cruise for the next time we go back to the states :D

I was just reading the August copy of National Geographic and they have an interesting article on Ways to Go. Its stats on what holds the greatest chance of ending your life (macabre I know). Well Bicycling accidents are in there but they dont really rate much higher than Air/space accident. Here are a few of the stats.

Bicycling accident 1 in 4,919

Air/space 1 in 5,134

Pedestrian accident 1 in 626 (beware crossing the street)

Lightning 1 in 79,746

Falling 1 in 218

Fireworks discharge 1 in 340,733 (your pretty safe on the 4th of July)

Drowning 1 in 1,008

This little stat was at the top of the article "Total odds of dying, any cause 1 in 1"

Check the article out - some of the stats did suprise me.:)

DrBee

08-10-2006, 09:57 AM

Lise

08-10-2006, 10:17 AM

Well, Lise, I guess this PVC thing is being managed/investigated okay - but the whole chest pain business really concerned me. It's one thing to have your heart do some wonky things - but when it causes pain, that seems a bit odd.No, no pain. Just really uncomfortable when it happens. There has been pain in the past, which I figured was a gallstone passing.

When I had my worst gallstone attack, I was sweating, shaking, in pain, couldn't breathe, of course I thought heart attack. A friend takes me to the ER, they slap a pulse oxygen monitor on me, it reads 100%, they take it off and I sit in a plastic chair for 3 hr waiting to be seen! Well, they were right. It wasn't my heart. That was '02.

This thing--18 skipped beats in 60 seconds--is really annoying and uncomfortable. We'll see what the echo shows. If that's OK, I'll do the tri, see how I feel. I've signed up for a 1/2 marathon in October, too. A lot of people get these. I think I'll do a search on a runners' site for any articles about what might help.

Coming off the caffeine I feel pretty sluggish. I had 1/2 cup this morning in hopes of avoiding that sudden withdrawl headache.

Nanci

08-10-2006, 10:18 AM

Maybe we should just start a Team Heart and Lung Defects. MP could join because of her lungs, Lise because of her heart, and me because of both!

maillotpois

08-10-2006, 10:33 AM

Maybe we should just start a Team Heart and Lung Defects. MP could join because of her lungs, Lise because of her heart, and me because of both!

Team Cardio-Pulmonary Dysfunction

Lise

08-10-2006, 10:34 AM

Maybe we could call it Team DHL (Defective Hearts & Lungs) and get some corporate sponsorship....:p

chickwhorips

08-10-2006, 11:53 AM

for team DHL i'm sure there's some kind of grant out there you could use.

chickwhorips

08-10-2006, 12:04 PM

it is the simple things in life.

speaking of. a friend sent me this websight. its really neat. kinda weird on your eyes: http://www.johnsadowski.com/big_spanish_castle.html

winddance

08-10-2006, 12:17 PM

I'm in! (asthma)

DrBee

08-10-2006, 12:27 PM

I apparently have a mystery allergy that keeps my skin crawling (w/o meds) and congested all year long. I'm not sure what team that puts me on.

winddance

08-10-2006, 12:38 PM

Maybe we should just call it "Team Ailment"

chickwhorips

08-10-2006, 12:39 PM

and TA for short. :cool:

DrBee

08-10-2006, 12:45 PM

Oh - I like it!

winddance

08-10-2006, 12:47 PM