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KnottedYet
06-17-2006, 12:59 PM
Nanci - i'd love to see a pic of the perfect chamois all together. I read the TE thing about the Sugois. Now, considering I haven't bought new shorts in years (maybe 5 years, and I don't count my Ibex knickers or my Terry Skort) I just might be able to justify splurging on the Sugois.

Then, of course, I'll need to spring for a touring bike so I can really ride in the shorts.

I'm having a bad hair day. Everything is pissing me off, I can't get my derailleur perfectly dialed in, bolts and screws are coming loose all over the place and my seat will NOT stay level as I tighten the bolt. And my Zoics just won't work on the bike. Nothing like exposing yer backside to the neighborhood while getting a wedgie to just make yer day.

And I'm just sure I'm gonna drown during the swim at the Danskin, even with my wetsuit, cuz I haven't been swimming yet and I only have 2 months to get up to snuff.

And I ate all the chocolate yesterday. No emergency chocolate left in the house.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Ain't TOUCHING the bike until I'm in a better mood, or I might break something.

Lise
06-17-2006, 03:03 PM
Hey, KN--
1. 2 months is plenty of time to get comfortable enough to do a sprint swim if you start swimming now.

2. Hair is from another planet and not really subject to our laws of physics.

3. Screws and parts and stuff? See "hair" above.

4. If I were you, I'd go restock the emergency chocolate. Do something about what you really can control. :p

Nanci--

Like everybody else, I thank you for being the test person for all those shorts. I'm probably set for the summer, mainly because I'm getting a grip on the finances. I have a pair of Sugoi, a pair of Canari, a pair of Zoot tri shorts, a pair of mtb shorts, and a Terry skort. That covers my needs. Not my wants, but certainly my needs. I'm going to lay out the summer athletic clothes I have so I can appreciate them and not start getting more that I think I need. I did buy one more pair of running shorts for $12.99 at Target today. That's all for awhile!

I love the Shimano sandals. Found a screw on the dining room floor today, and knew it must be something bike related, as it required an Allen wrench. Put on my sandals and realized the screw was from the cleat plate that was now clacking on the floor. The other screw was almost completely unscrewed, too. I feel so lucky that it fell out at home and not on the road.
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HOT in Chicago today, and windy, but somehow it's not bothering me. I rode to a meeting, to Target, to coffee with sober guy. He seems nice, good looking, funny, rides a bike...more will be revealed. I have a date with photo guy tonight. I am such a social butterfly! :rolleyes: I just keep getting out there because I would like to have that kind of intimacy and connection, and, let's face it, nookie. (I don't think that word will be censored...;) ) I'll keep y'all posted!

Nanci
06-17-2006, 03:04 PM
Knotted Yet,

You're not going to drown in a wetsuit!!

Nanci

Nanci
06-17-2006, 03:40 PM
I put the chamois comparison picture in Apparel, Sugoi RS Flex Review.

DrBee
06-17-2006, 05:01 PM
Lise - great news on sober guy! Good luck tonight with photo guy. Can't wait to hear how it goes!

Nanci - thanks for posting pics. You're so thorough on researching these things that I feel good going with your suggestions.

KnottedYet - renew the supply of emergency chocolate.

bikerz
06-17-2006, 05:02 PM
I think this thread is the 2nd most viewed thread after the "getting to know you" one - 7801 views just now...

Trek420
06-17-2006, 06:22 PM
what KnottedYet sed about the Zoics. Just not sure about them, Love the concept of the pockets but the thighs are so tight I don't know if I can get a key in. I'm a cyclist, I have thighs, who knew!? It's like the Shebeast tights I could not get past my calves...who knew I'd have calves?

And the plumbers crack thing....hmmmm. It's a look, not sure it's a look that will get looks. Maybe I should get a tatoo there or something.

This could be what I wear to work on days I spin...just stay in the back of the class.

DrBee
06-17-2006, 07:39 PM
I've decided that if I get the job in Baton Rouge I think my reward to myself will be the Sugoi shorts :D

I've finally wrapped the SS gifts and put them in a box. I will mail them out Monday. I feel like I'm way behind on this. But - I haven't seen too many "I received my SS gift" posts, so I'm guessing we're all pretty much on the same timeline.

Have a great night! Think of me - first ride with clipless pedals in the AM. Aargh!

KnottedYet
06-17-2006, 08:15 PM
I bought chocolate.

And red wine. (Big Fat Llama cabernet)

Feeling much better now.

I think I'll go to grad school to be a librarian. Gir is my co-pilot: "The knowlege. It fills me. It is neat."

crazycanuck
06-17-2006, 08:27 PM
Knotted..Have some more chocolate for me k...

I'm thinking about applying at Edith Cowan uni here to do a masters in information sciences-library studies/archives...

I'd rather work with books...

Game 7 is on!!!! Yipeeeeeeeeeee.....

c

KnottedYet
06-17-2006, 08:45 PM
Science or medical librarian in my dreams. Worked in libraries for years. One of my all-time favorite jobs was working in a science library. Liked working in book repair and cataloging and public libraries, too, but the science library was the best.

Ties together all my silly degrees, keeps me working even after my body can't handle lifting/supporting/chasing/educating patients anymore, and allows me to be the dilettante I truly am.

Lise
06-17-2006, 10:30 PM
KN--what is it you do now?

My mom is a librarian, went to library school when I was 7 & 8 yr old. I grew up in libraries. Being a science librarian sounds very, very cool.

Date with photo guy went really well. We talked for 3.5 hr over dinner, then dessert. He hugged me good night, but it was the "I'm being respectful and not yet kissing you though I want to" kind of hug (felt that way to me anyways), asked if he can see me again. I really wanted to kiss him standing there on the street by my car hugging him...controlled myself ... thought, "wait, just wait". I get so connected once I've physically connected with someone. Who knows, but it was fun. It's also so nerve-racking. Not to mention the guy has been a fashion photographer for much of his career, many years of which were in Italy ... oh, no pressure to be beautiful, eh?

OK, going to bed! Had to give you gals an update, though!

bikerz's comment about the frequency with which this thread is viewed made me think that a bunch of TE'ers may be reading but not joining in--jump in, ladies, the water's fine! Thanks, again, Nanci, for starting off this rambling chat fest! home it is.

crazycanuck
06-17-2006, 11:27 PM
I just finished killing/cleaning up the garden....It hadn't been raked in ages & it's beyond hope...
I'd rather bike than rake up leaves however once in a while i get a bit too much energy & decide to go a bit nutty with the rake...

Lise, I'm happy to hear your date went well.

Knottedyet-i really liked your signature a while back. Were you told to alter it or did you just decide to change it???

I just checked out the RAAM site...3000miles hey(5000km-perth to melbourne or a bit further...)....:eek: I'd be support crew...


c

Nanci
06-18-2006, 04:58 AM
Lise, glad to hear the date went so well! Do you know what Loctite is? It's this liquid that you put on screws (get the removeable strength) so they stay put until you unscrew them. I haven't put it on my cleats, but others do. I used it on my underwater DPV though. (dive propulsion vehicle)

If you lose a screw on a ride, the screws that hold the bottle cage will work until you get a replacement.

fishdr- you think like I do! If I do such-and-such, then I get X piece of bike stuff that I really want! Good luck with the clipless!

You know what I've noticed about shiny fabric? It makes fat rolls stand out. Matte fabric, like the Shebeast tanks, (and especially in prints!) lets you get away with anything.

I'm at work today- OT- will cover the speeding ticket, though it was planned for a new saddle and/or hotel for the next 200k July 1st...Oh well, I'm working next Sunday, too.

I have my SS gift all wrapped and ready to go, now all I need is a box! I'm sure she will forgive me when she gets it, though. I am relieved that we haven't been reading posts about who got what. I ought to be working on July now, before they even match us!!

Nanci

Lise
06-18-2006, 05:27 AM
good to know about the Loctite, Nanci. I'll check it out. Also good to know about the water bottle cage screws. Thanks.

So true about shiney fabric!

DrBee
06-18-2006, 06:32 AM
Good morning ladies! I did it! I had a successful ride with the new pedals! I LIKE THEM!!!!! My dismount at the house was...uh...less than graceful. All I have to say is chain tatoo. Lots of people walking by. BUT - I didn't fall :)

And this was also my first time in cycling shoes. Wow they cool your feet off. My feet were always so hot before. As soon as I got out of the driveway I was thinking - wierd, my feet are cool. I love the helmet, too - good venting. Encountered a dog - gave good chase - yelled at him and he went back home. Whew! My legs were shaking after that for a minute.


Lise - Congrats on the good date! Sounds promising! Good restraint on the kissing. When's the next date???

Brina
06-18-2006, 06:32 AM
Lise, I am happy to hear that the dates are going so well. I think you are now officially juggling. I used to love first dates - I know some people don't, but I really enjoyed them.

Nanci, you are always the woman with the info. I have learned so much from your posts - thanks for the loctite info.

fish, you get that job you definitely deserve new shorts.

I have been a shopping machine the last week - I really have to stop. I have bought a new pair of cycing shorts (my favorites were on special at TE), a new pair of running shorts, a running top and a new tennis outfit. The tennis outfit is completely impractical since I can't wear it at the place I play the most - they have a whites rule for the courts, trim can be colored, but the majority of the outfit has to be white - so I can only wear it for away matches. I really have to stop shopping.

Nanci
06-18-2006, 06:38 AM
Brina, what are your favorite shorts?

Lise, Loctite is pretty easy to find at any hardwear store, and I bet even Target.

I found out about the water bottle cage screw the hard way- search for my post called Bizarro Ride for the full story!

Brina
06-18-2006, 07:35 AM
Brina, what are your favorite shorts?


shebeest triple S. I like shorter shorts, but not really short, plus the chamois just seems to really work for me. I answered your post about shorts on the apparel thread about what I tried before getting to these - not as long of a list as yours.

Nanci
06-18-2006, 08:06 AM
I tried the Shebeast Elite Distance 2 before the Sugois, and thought I'd like them, but the way the panels were put together in the back wasn't flattering on me, though the Trashy Cats are put together almost the same, and they are fine...I like the Sugois chamois way better (than the Shebeast)- it's perfect.

I still would like to just _see_ the LG Wicked Expensive chamois, though...(In person).

KnottedYet
06-18-2006, 09:42 AM
CC - I voluntarily changed that sig line in the interest of protecting the more delicate-natured members of the TE forum who find thinking outside their comfort zone causes deep emotional distress.

Nanci - Thank you for doing all this chamois testing for us! (you did it just for us, right? We ARE the center of your universe, aren't we?) Your clothing reviews carry a lot of weight when I'm considering buying stuff!

Lise - I'm in healthcare now. Good for you exercising restraint on that first date. Keeps 'em interested. (don't think I've ever actually had a first date.... nope. always dated friends I'd known for months. being so cautious probably ruined my fun...)

My wetsuit is lying on my rocking chair. i MUST go swimming this morning. Then I'm going riding with another Team Survivor chickie. I ate all the chocolate again. Bought a Lara Bar mole' to eat on the ride. Sounded good. Contains chocolate...

Lise
06-18-2006, 09:52 AM
KN--have you tried the Maya bars? They are made by the Lara bar people, but they are based on chocolate! whew. Heaven in a wrapper.

fishdr--yea! First-ride-post-crash is behind you. I think the dog was just a bonus to let you show how strong and brave you are. Glad you like the shoes and helmet so much! L.

Nanci
06-18-2006, 10:16 AM
There's a message for you up in Raccoon!! ;-)

Nanci

Lise
06-18-2006, 11:10 AM
There's a message for you up in Raccoon!! ;-)

Nanci
Thank you! Yeah, if you want me to read something in another thread, post about it here! :p

Lise
06-18-2006, 11:13 AM
Lise, glad to hear the date went so well! Do you know what Loctite is?... Nanci
Nanci, I just re-read this, and it cracked me up. I'm sure you see the A.F. (amusement factor) in the juxtaposition of those two sentences.

DrBee
06-18-2006, 11:16 AM
I didn't see that at first - that's great!

Nanci
06-18-2006, 12:29 PM
Hey- at least I recommended the removeable type, not permanent!! (Later, when she chooses between the two, she can apply permanent Loctite!!) (Oops, I just caught the typo, for once before I posted, of Loctiti!! Hehehe-I'm so immature that made me laugh!!) (I need that to keep them from sneaking out the bottom of my bra!)

In other news- did I tell you guys about the wren dilemma? Wren in truck, with eggs, BF wants to drive truck, I call him a murderer, he drives anyway- I check on the bird today, she has laid a new egg in a different section of the nest, and is FURIOUS that I am checking on her, and scolds me loudly from ten feet away on the tree, even after I have left the area. I think I am going to go look for a wren house, and see if I can get her to switch over, and then move the house to the tree that the truck is parked under. Put nest in house, blocking hole. House is on long rope. Gradually raise house up to the tree! Doesn't that sound like it might work??

Selkie
06-18-2006, 12:59 PM
Lise - Maya bars are the best, aren't they? I use them to fuel my sunrise weekend rides--the coffee and chocolate give me a jolt, and they taste wonderful. Seem to have good staying power, too, probably because of the nuts.

DirtDiva
06-18-2006, 01:03 PM
CC - I voluntarily changed that sig line in the interest of protecting the more delicate-natured members of the TE forum who find thinking outside their comfort zone causes deep emotional distress.
Obviously I don't have a delicate natue - no idea what prior sig you could possibly be referring to. Or perhaps I just have a bad memory. :p

Nanci - your wren plan sounds good to me, but I know nothing about such things so, um, yeah...

Lise
06-18-2006, 01:57 PM
So...BF is not a murderer, but wren has her suspicions about you? You may be able to sell this story to TV. Does your plan involve picking up the current nest and putting it in the wren house? Do wrens ever attack human beings? How long does it take wren eggs to hatch? Do wrens ever get rabies? You absolutely get the "Best Friend to Furry and Scaly and Feathered Creatures" award, Nanci. :D
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And where else can you ask this question: Why do we get that sudden falling feeling when drifting off to sleep? I was napping, only to be wakened by Isaac the cat demanding admission to the bedroom. I let him in to snuggle with me, drifted back asleep, and had that abrupt feeling of falling, startled in the bed, flung my arms out, and Isaac just shifted and purred and snuggled in closer.
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Loctite appears to have so many uses! I'll pick up a bottle today! The hot, sticky weather means not only do I need to shower three times a day, but I wash my bras that often, too. One application of Loctite post-shower might solve the whole bra problem, period! :rolleyes:

DrBee
06-18-2006, 02:34 PM
I'll admit it - I giggled at locktiti, too. ;)

I think the wren idea might work. Carolina wrens (I'm assuming that's what it is) will nest just about anywhere!. We had a pair build a nest on some shelves we had in an outside alcove right before we moved from SC to here. We kept hoping the little buggers would fledge by moving day. We talked the movers into packing that stuff last. Our plan worked - the fledged the morning before. Your idea sounds plausible. As long as the initial position of the nestbox is right next to the old nest, it might work. I like the idea of slowly raising the box to the tree. That's brilliant! Wrens typically nest in fairly low places, so check the height first to make sure she'll still accept the final height. Good luck! I can't wait to hear how this turns out.

Nanci
06-18-2006, 03:28 PM
Well, I'm worried that the tree might be too high now, maybe ten feet off the ground?

The move did not go well. The egg on top was empty- but not from anything I did. Whole, but empty. I dug out a lot of nest before getting to the other three eggs. Broke two, saved one, but it was cold. I put it in the new nest anyway- she'll- if she moves in- either build over it or throw it out. The eggs that broke were not developed at all- so that's ok. She'll just lay more.

Making grilled garlic shrimp for dinner tonight. I bought three pounds! I can freeze what we don't cook for some other meal- they're all mirinated and ready to go.

DrBee
06-18-2006, 04:42 PM
Ten feet might be a bit on the high side. If you could pull the box back towards the trunk of the tree and attach it there - that would work. Too bad about the eggs. The good thing is if she takes to the nestbox, you'll have a great view of the babies!

We're having shrimp tonight, too. We're having shrimp etoufee. Yummmm! The in-laws are coming up from Louisiana on Wednesday and they're bringing blue crabs! Yippee! I'm from MD remember.

Nanci
06-18-2006, 05:28 PM
She didn't take to it. I don't feel _too_ bad, the eggs hadn' even started to develope. I will move it close to the tree at about an eight foot height tomorrow.

Oh well.

Trek420
06-18-2006, 06:27 PM
Nanci, there's a family of birds who've nested in one of the vents on my condo. Not sure what it vents from. At first I was a afraid to run the dryer lest I "cook" them but that does not seem to bug them so...catching up on laundry again.

I know they lost 2 babies. I found the tiny featherless creatures dead on the patio, guess they fell out. Either they lay more eggs or there were more and I can hear the tiny family and see Mom and Dad flying in with fluff and dried vegetation and sitting on the carport roof scolding me when I go out.

There's a birdfeeder in front of the condo, and one in the patio in back. The back one not so much eating because Mae is there but the front one, hard to keep it full :D

Partly inspired by you and my general tree-huggy background I ordered a bird house. Hope they come back next year they'll be housed in style.

KnottedYet
06-18-2006, 07:03 PM
We have woodpeckers that pound away at our sheet metal chimneys. The whole apartment building echoes with it.

I found a tiny blue egg shell in front of my building earlier this week. I'm hoping it was a hatched egg rather than one that got splattered when the new siding was put on our building. Didn't see any gooey or dried egg-guts, so I'm guessing it was a hatched one.

crazycanuck
06-19-2006, 02:45 AM
Ok, here's one for you Nanci & anyone else-I'm sure the Australian Government would love you for it..

Read this article about cane toads and what do you think is the best way to get rid of them?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5092226.stm

Someone said paint thinner works...

I got up at 415am today....As i start work earlier for the next 2 weeks(end of financial year in aust & paperwork increases) I can't join in on a group run or swim...So my friend & I went for a run @ 5am through the city & then ventured to work..

No cycle tonight as it's raining-it's one thing not to be able to see well whilst biking at night(even with lights) but it's another thing when i can't see through my glasses...

c

DrBee
06-19-2006, 05:10 AM
Cane toads are a classic example of why exotics should not be introduced as population control for "pest" species. I learned about this long ago as an undergrad in ecology and herp classes. I had hoped that some sort of eradication program had been successful. Sorry to hear it hadn't. Do you see them often?

crazycanuck
06-19-2006, 05:13 AM
They're not in Western Australia yet!!! We don't want them...

They're headed this way though & the Western Australian Gov't is trying it's best to stop them...

c

Nanci
06-19-2006, 05:25 AM
But they're so adorable!! I am familiar with the problem, though. Introducing animals to somewhere they are not from is almost always disasterous. I had one for a pet when I was in high school. They are called Marine Toads here. I named him Lord something or other- some British Navy person. I also had a Three-Toed Box Turtle at the same time, named Mr. Schneider, after my bf's teacher of the same name. Why? Because each only had one arm...

DrBee
06-19-2006, 05:42 AM
*Random thought* I was just sitting here thinking about taking a better picture of my bike (instead of in the shade) and that I should take one in front of my blue CR-V. Then I realized that our two cars are blue and silver and my bike is blue and silver and my new cycling shoes are blue and silver and my helmet is blue and silver. I'm sensing a trend here.

DrBee
06-19-2006, 06:38 AM
I FINALLY sent out my SS gift. I even changed up the return address so hopefully they won't figure out who I am. I don't think she reads this thread.

Nanci
06-19-2006, 06:45 AM
How do you change up the return address and still be able to have it come back if it has to??

I figured out who sent mine last time, but I don't remember how. And the person I sent mine to figured me out, though I never confirmed it!

I got the box today, it will go out tomorrow...

DrBee
06-19-2006, 07:27 AM
I put my mom's address (different state). I figure if it gets returned, it'll be safe there.

I'm starting to think I have a giant magnet attached to me. That, or I'm invisible. On my walk back from the post office, I nearly got run over. A woman drove past me (at a high rate of speed) only about 1ft from me. I could've touched her car with no effort. Craziness!

I figured out who my SS was - she slyly revealed it to me. I never was assigned a SS last time :( , so they couldn't figure out who I was.

KnottedYet
06-19-2006, 10:19 AM
Sick Day.

Woke up in misery. Called in to work, and went back to bed. Weird dreams. Sitting here in my jammies, bummed because I am "free" for the day, but won't be riding. Gonna take some big effort just to take a shower and leave the house to pick up cough drops and throat lozenges.

This must be one of the 130 cold viruses I haven't met yet.

My tonsils are trying to dissolve their way into my skull. Every muscle and joint in my body is explaining (vociferously) that it wants to go back to bed and stop playing on the computer already. My eustacian (?) tubes in my ears itch. Q-tips don't go that far... don't try it.

My temp is 97. It's an anti-fever! If you put me next to someone with a fever, will we instantly annihilate each other like a bad special effect from the original Star Trek?

My dog thinks I stayed home just to give him extra love.

DrBee
06-19-2006, 10:31 AM
Knotted - I hope you feel better. How would some virtual soup do? Maybe more chocolate will help.

Nanci
06-19-2006, 11:38 AM
Decongestants will make your e-tubes quit itching. Afrin really unclogs things, but it is SUPER addictive (speaking from experience- and I _knew_ it was addictive before I used it, but it just felt so good to be able to breathe for once in my life!)

Nanci

KnottedYet
06-19-2006, 12:21 PM
Thanks, Nanci. I will add decongestants to my list. Which I will go get eventually. After I warm up enough to take a shower.

Just realized I could make chicken soup (frozen chicken, rice, peppercorns, garlic -which cures everything) in my crock pot while I laze around in bed with my laptop.

The chicken is defrosting as we speak. Dog is guarding the microwave.

I'm sure he thinks this whole day is just for him. Snuggling in the bed! Extra attention! Chicken!

Trek420
06-19-2006, 12:46 PM
Yeah, he probably planted the cold bug ;)

KnottedYet
06-19-2006, 01:03 PM
Knotted's Chicken Soup

3 lbs frozen chicken thighs (minus the one that slipped into the garbage disoposal...ewwww)

1/2 head of garlic, cloves chopped in half

Thumb-sized knob of ginger, sliced thin

palm full of whole peppercorns

3 big splashes of soy sauce

4 handfuls of brown rice

All tossed into the crock pot with enough water to cover. I plan to repeat the garlic and maybe the ginger and probably the soy sauce after it cooks a while.

Dog has given up trying to figure out how to get into the garbage for the chicken skin and the thigh that fell into the disposal. He's curled up on the bed, waiting for me to fall asleep again, plotting his revenge.

Selkie
06-19-2006, 02:18 PM
Sick Day.

Woke up in misery. Called in to work, and went back to bed. Weird dreams. Sitting here in my jammies, bummed because I am "free" for the day, but won't be riding. Gonna take some big effort just to take a shower and leave the house to pick up cough drops and throat lozenges.

This must be one of the 130 cold viruses I haven't met yet.

My tonsils are trying to dissolve their way into my skull. Every muscle and joint in my body is explaining (vociferously) that it wants to go back to bed and stop playing on the computer already. My eustacian (?) tubes in my ears itch. Q-tips don't go that far... don't try it.

My temp is 97. It's an anti-fever! If you put me next to someone with a fever, will we instantly annihilate each other like a bad special effect from the original Star Trek?

My dog thinks I stayed home just to give him extra love.

I think you have what made me miserable about three weeks ago. It's our busy time at work (nearing the end of the Fiscal Year) so I couldn't take leave. Anyway, if it's the same thing, it takes about a week before you start feeling OK. It's a persistent virus--I'm still dealing with residual booger-ness from it.

Lise
06-19-2006, 02:20 PM
KN, that sounds like a cure-all if I've ever heard one! Hope you're feeling better soon. Glad you've got such a smart and loving dog. L.

Nanci
06-19-2006, 03:10 PM
I'm making oven-roasted Lipton Onion Soup potatoes for dinner, with salmon, which is marinating in (real) sherry, soy sauce, lemon juice and brown sugar (out of ginger). I think I will cook it in foil on the grill. It's so hot out. Never made salmon before...

That chicken soup sure sounds good. My two soup specialties are Cream of Wild Rice and Bean with Tomatoes, Chiles and Ham.

Waiting for tech support from Cingular to call me to see why I can't call my home area code from my cell phone of a different area code, when I am in the home area code, and get a message saying it's a call to which long distance charges apply, please dial 1, but I can't do that either. I have a Nationwide plan- this just started for no reason two weeks ago...

I just learned today that correct electrolyte replacement will reduce/eliminate black toenails and blisters on a really long run.

My post to the ultra list earlier today:

I just read Karl King's article about the relationship between electrolyte status and foot problems.

I ran Croom 50k in April 2004 and subsequently lost both big toenails. (So no chance to lose them at Wickham Park 2004) Quarter-sized blisters on my big toes, and a row of smaller blisters at the base of other toes after both runs.

Wickham Park 2005, lost both big toenails. Same blistering as above.

Wickham Park 2006, one teeny blister, all nails intact!

Now, I've been taking Succeed S! Caps as long as I've been running, ( but you know how it goes- you miss a dose, or forget for a while, or skip one because you just ate or drank something...) but Wickham Park 2006 was the first time I set a timer on my watch and took an S! Cap every 30 minutes no matter what for the entire 10 hours I was on the course. Nothing else changed- same shoes, socks, foot prep, etc.

Could it really be that simple?

Nanci

Karl's reply:

Nanci,

For years I ran ultras and had the usual half dozen toenails in various
stages of blackness and repair. You all know how that goes. Then I got
the electrolytes dialed in and the black toenails healed over a few months.
That was the end of my black toenails.

This subject came up when Kevin Sayers and I were doing a practice climb up
the south side of Hope Pass on the LT100 course. To back up my claim of no
black toenails, I took off my shoes and socks and told Kevin, "If anybody
asks, you're my witness - no black toenails."

Maybe I've been lucky, but if so, it has lasted for years of running.
The only thing I changed was getting the electrolytes right. Same socks
(Ultimax ), same type of shoes, same types of terrain.

For those who want the technical side of this, please see:

http://www.succeedscaps.com/blisters.html

Karl King (FI in S Caps, NFI in Ultimax, just like their fit and durability)

DrBee
06-19-2006, 04:30 PM
I had no idea about this black toenail and electrolyte thing. What happens there physiologically?

The salmon sounds great! I love grilled salmon - we do it in aluminum foil, too.

For dinner tonight - we're ordering gourmet pizzas (ha - we do have something cool here):
The "Delta Duck" - duck sausage with apple brandy, fresh tomatoes, asiago and mozzarella chesses and house made basil pesto.

The "Green and White" - grilled chicken breast, spinach, garlic alfredo sauce, asioago and mozzarella cheeses.

They are from a 5-start restaurant (only one in the Delta). It's an outstanding restaurant...great presentation, awesome food and service and atmosphere. Too bad it's $150/couple on average for dinner.

Makes up for the really aggravating day at work today. Incompetent and insubordinate people should be fired. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to happen.

KnottedYet
06-19-2006, 05:28 PM
The soup is done! I've already eaten 3 bowls of it. First thing I've really wanted to eat all day. I'm feeling much better now. Thanks for suggesting soup!

Now that I've eaten dinner perhaps I should shower and change out of my jammies and GET OUT OF THE HOUSE!

Need to take dog for a walk. (P.S. I did give him some soup.)

Brina
06-19-2006, 06:07 PM
dinner tonight is steak and lima beans. we opened a bottle of 2001 Domaine Brusset from the Rhone Valley - from the Wine Spectator:


Refined and subtle. With its silky tannins, lovely full-bodied richness on the palate, this is a red that's well worth hunting for, giving joy with its fresh blackberry aromas and spice, toasted oak and chocolate notes. It has a harmonious finish and an opulent aftertaste

and only $14 a bottle. whoohoo


Nanci, interesting about the electrolytes. I have never heard anything like that.

Knotted, glad you are feeling better.

Nanci
06-20-2006, 02:49 AM
fishdr- Karl explains the physiology in the article. The nausea article is great too.

What I think is weird is I have three identical races three years in a row and the only thing that I changed was at the last one, taking electrolytes every 30 minutes without fail because of the timer, instead of just trying to watch my watch. I didn't even find the tiny blister until days later. Other years, my toenails would be black (actually pre-black pinkish purple) as soon as I took my shoes off, with blister juice coming out from under them at both ends, with huge blisters on my big toes and under my other toes.

I think when I ride the 200k July 1st, I'm going to put that watch somewhere on my bike with the alarm set.

BF hated the salmon. I guess it was too far removed from beef or chicken. I liked it, though.

crazycanuck
06-20-2006, 04:44 AM
Urugh...Pooey...Darn..:( The oilers lost game 7...My friend & I were having quite a ball during the game...whilst at work!!! I couldn't listen live but i could follow the typed play by play on nhl.com. My friend however could listen & was updating me.

So to anyone in North Carolina...enjoy stanley but the Oilers will be back again to win it one day..

Anywho...
Can you ladies tell me if i stay at 25km/hr on my bike on the flats, is that slow in mph? I'm still confused on if i'm spinning or mashing.

What's the best way to learn how to draft?? I'm ok at slow speeds but not too confident beyond that...

c

Nanci
06-20-2006, 05:14 AM
That's about my average speed. But that means I'm going faster on the flasts, by 1-5 mph, and a lot slower on hills or in wind.

I learned to draft by going on a long ride with a tolerant friend. It's nice to have someone who can ride really steadily and give good signals for road hazards, etc. Remember, if you touch the wheel ahead of you, you're the one who's going down.

Then just keep back at the distance you're comfortable with, and gradually get closer as you gain confidence. If the person ahead slows, just drift over to your left to slow down by drag, rather than braking and then getting too slow, and then having to really pedal to catch back up. Don't drift over to the right though, because if you overlap wheels, and the rider ahead moves closer to you, all you can do is go off the road. It only takes a couple seconds, usually, to get enough drag from the wind to slow you back down.

I have a hard time pulling in casual situations, because I have a hard time maintaining a constant steady speed. But if I'm in an actual paceline, at the front, then I am riding close to my max, so it's easier to maintain, because I'm not speeding up any more!

Another thing that took me a while to learn was to "soft pedal-" keeping the pedals turning without applying much force, if I was catching up, instead of coasting, because if you coast, then start pedaling again, you have a sort of jerk when you start up, which makes things not so smooth for the rider behind you.

(Gotta go to work...)

Nanci

Nanci
06-20-2006, 05:39 AM
Yay!!! I hope it survives the hot weather. I got my gift yesterday, and it had to go into the refrigerator for emergency resuscitation :-)

triflor
06-20-2006, 05:47 AM
When drafting do not underestimate what Nanci said about Road Hazards. I learned drafting with my brother who is great at pointing to hazards, and my mum who is so anal about it that she points them out when we go on runs! The point is the overly cautious about hazards are much safer for you to ride with.

I rode with my aunt the other day, behind but not drafting. She wasn't on top of the pointing to hazards thing and I hit a few pot holes too big to ignore.

Know where the wind is coming from when drafting because it will affect what side you ride to. Take a look at the team time trial photos/videos from the Tour de France. You'll pick up a lot from looking at pros carefully.

I feel like Lord Stanley isn't going to be coming home for a long time! Its been 13 years since the cup last came to Canada.

DrBee
06-20-2006, 06:07 AM
Nanci - too bad about BF not liking the salmon. It sounded good. We enjoyed our pizzas. Tonight I'm making a lasagne.

I rode this morning. It seems as thought I'm a bit nervous about cars still. But - I did really good (much better) unclipping :). My stomach feels lousy today, so maybe that's why I didn't feel up to snuff this morning. I think a week of being totally sedentary after the crash is going to take a bit to recover from, too.

I made cinnamon rolls from scratch last night - we're cooking them this morning. 1st time for me. It's an Alton Brown recipe. I'll let you know how they are. They look right.

DrBee
06-20-2006, 06:10 AM
Oh Nanci - I tried the red and green sport beans together. You were right - it was great! It tasted like a cherry limeade to me :)

crazycanuck
06-20-2006, 06:12 AM
Thanks Ladies for the drafting info..!!!! Much appreciated.

Triflor-did you watch the game??? I kinda miss don cherry :eek:

c

KnottedYet
06-20-2006, 02:03 PM
SELF INDULGENT PITY PARTY WHINE ALERT

I'm still sick. Slept until 1:00 this afternoon. Tried to call work to see how things were going, and they had the answering machine on. Usually that means things aren't going well. (can't spare anyone to answer the phone, so it all goes directly to the machine)

This is one weird cold. I feel worse today than y'day. My body hurts, my head wants to explode, sore throat, nausea, watery eyes, but no coughing or runny nose yet. And still have the anti-fever.

I'm craving Clif lemonade electrolytes. I'm sure that's from all this discussion of electrolytes and black toenails.

I'm not craving black toenails, however.....

Nanci
06-20-2006, 02:27 PM
Maybe it's not a cold??? You should drink some Endurance Gatorade- that would probably taste good to you. I also love pineapple juice when I have a sore throat, or gargling with apple cider vinegar.

Sorry you aren't feeling better yet.

Nanci

KnottedYet
06-20-2006, 04:52 PM
Nanci - I like the new avatar! Nice picture!

WARNING: PITY PARTY CONTINUES!!!

Wondering if I have the flu. Darn it all, it's beautiful here, could've had a great couple of commutes and maybe an evening ride or two over the last two days!!!! PHOOOOOEEEEY!

Had to leave the house this afternoon to go get cough drops and coke and my MRI CD for my cancer check-up tomorrow. I was not walkin' pretty and didn't stay out long. Felt like I was gonna fall asleep at the red lights.

Craving coke, which seems to be staying where it belongs ok. Not so much the Clif, but I hate to dump it out.

How long can it last in the fridge, if you've been drinking from it?

Lise
06-20-2006, 08:00 PM
KN, sorry you're feeling so sick! Sure sounds like the flu. Lay low, drink or eat what you can stand, this will pass. If it's a virus, it usually takes 7-10 days, seriously, to be done with. Sugar/salt/water can probably sit out of the frig for awhile, but not overnight, I'd guess. When in doubt, throw it out.

Nanci--what a cheerful picture! You must not be grumpy! :p That pigeon doesn't look like he'd bite at all! :D L.

DrBee
06-20-2006, 08:09 PM
Knottedyet - I think you gave me your cold! Hopefully I don't get the full blown yucks like you have. I have been developing a nice conjested head and runny nose all day. I pretty much can't breathe through my nose right now. I'm not achy - hopefully that stays. I have to go to work tomorrow. Might not be a full day. In-laws are coming into town also.

Nanci - love the new avatar. I need to get a new one AND a signature line. Someday I'll come up with one.

Lise - any word from the men???

Lise
06-20-2006, 08:49 PM
fish...I was just sitting here thinking about it. Sober guy I didn't feel like I wanted to date, anyway, on reflection. Nothing bad, just nothing great. Photo guy I really do want to see again...This thing is so ... well, I can see why a book called "The Rules" was a big seller some years back. I never read it, but I do wish someone would forward me a copy of some "rules" :rolleyes:

Glad to hear you got in a great ride this morning. I was so wiped out from the long shift that I didn't even try to ride the bike. Tomorrow morning I run. For real. :) L.

crazycanuck
06-21-2006, 04:39 AM
I am a twit...I came home tonight to go for a 35km ride & decided to pump up my tires...rururghghfgfghgfjgg...I ended up deflating them...:mad:

I managed to get one inflated but the other just wouldn't budge past 80psi. I had to walk away from the pump as it was becoming quite frustrating...nope..didn't work out...Even in my best ballerina pose...Ended up waiting for ian
I feel like a heffalump.

Anywho, i've decided i'm going to go for an early bike ride tomorrow morning...I'll have to leave my house around 440am-drop my stuff off at work & go do some sprints i think. (I work at 630 for the next couple of weeks so anything to keep me awake is good!!!)

c

Lise
06-21-2006, 04:56 AM
CC--I know the feeling of heffalump-ishness! Sorry to hear your tires were so recalcitrant today. Better luck tomorrow. The weather report says rain and HAIL today...not riding bike to work. Didn't get up and run. Feel just plain lumpish. Going to do some yoga stretches, then to work at the clinic, and a night shift at the hospital. If rain and hail don't bring the babies, I don't know what will! :eek: :rolleyes: L.

DrBee
06-21-2006, 10:18 AM
Yup - I think I have a cold. At least I'm not as stuffed up today. Luckily I have a very competent technician and postdoc and summer worker. They are stocking 7500 itty bitty catfish into 150 tanks today.

Nanci - did the wren ever decide to take to the nestbox?

Lise - Good luck with photo guy. Have you seen the mystery pannier-no-helmet-flirty guy lately?

I'm going home soon. I need to make finishing touches on a manuscript and my brain has decided to phase out on me. Lovely.

Nanci
06-21-2006, 10:38 AM
No, the wren wouldn't check out the birdhouse in the alotted time frame. The holes in the truck are blocked off, and the beautiful birdhouse is hanging in the tree, not too high, in the tree the truck parks under...

Nanci

DrBee
06-21-2006, 11:22 AM
I was hoping she would build a new nest in it. Maybe next year.

Lise
06-21-2006, 11:37 AM
Lise - Good luck with photo guy. Have you seen the mystery pannier-no-helmet-flirty guy lately?
Haven't seen him. Last week I saw him Thurs (riding south from home to volleyball), and Friday (riding from the north home from work). I didn't ride today because they were predicting severe thunderstorms and hail. It rained a smidge in the morning. It's now 1:30PM, and bright and sunny out! No hail yet. Rain, fer cryin' out loud! I didn't ride my bike! :rolleyes:

DrBee
06-21-2006, 11:39 AM
Had lunch - feeling a bit better. Here's an odd tidbit...I don't know if I've posted this info before, so excuse me if I have - the brain is not fully functional today. I have been taking Allegra since last summer (helps with contact allergies to just about everything) and I've noticed this year that I am not reacting to mosquito bites. I don't swell up, I don't itch, there's no sign of being bit. Wierd, but makes sense in a way.

Nanci
06-21-2006, 12:04 PM
Maybe still this year! I had moved her whole nest in there, but after the next day, I took out most of the nesting material, leaving just clean Timothy hay.

My new avatar, BTW, is me and Dill, the older bird (back in his and my younger days!) And yes, he, like all "doves of peace," bites!!! Not all the time, though. And it doesn't hurt unless he gets the inside of my arm or somewhere sensitive. I don't really care.

Nanci

triflor
06-21-2006, 01:54 PM
crazy- I actually postponed my swim workout to watch the game... game 7 of the final, wouldn't miss it. However, I didn't watch Coaches Corner. The other night, game 6 I think, I was annoyed b/c DC just talked about the previous game rather than the first period... :confused:

DrBee
06-22-2006, 05:28 AM
In-laws are in town. We had a good visit last night and the crabs were great! I was feeling better this morning, so I went out for a quick run. Felt good at first...ran further than I have so far... then hit a virtual brick wall and walked like a slug back to the house. Peachy.

Lise
06-22-2006, 05:31 AM
I went out for a quick run. Felt good at first...ran further than I have so far... then hit a virtual brick wall and walked like a slug back to the house. Peachy.
So it goes sometimes. I've hit that wall at various points and cursed the fact that I had to get home under my own steam! At least on the bike you can pedal-pedal-coast!

DrBee
06-22-2006, 06:23 AM
Lise - I know - it was awful. I felt like I could barely get back. It was really lousy to feel so good and then feel sooooo bad. We need retractable wheels on our running shoes for times like that, don't you think???

Nanci
06-22-2006, 07:08 AM
I had a run like that once. I was out on some trail, at about the furthest point, at 12 miles or something, and it was in the afternoon, and I was hot, and I just ran out of energy. I had to trudge back _so_ far...

Nanci

DrBee
06-22-2006, 07:58 AM
Luckily I didn't have to go that far. I run laps in my neighborhood, so the house wasn't too far away. I've been dragging all day, though. I had chocolate milk when I got back and just had a yogurt at my desk. Hopefully that will perk me up. I'm feeling a need for chocolate and my candy jar is empty... and I only have 1 quarter...crud. I think I'm going to run to the grocery store and get a banana and chocolate.

Lise
06-22-2006, 10:45 AM
I don't like carrying water with me, but if I don't, my route is constrained to where there are water fountains. If I forget and deviate, I'm in bad shape. I have a water bottle with a mesh handle thing that makes it easier to carry. A pack of Sport Beans fits perfectly in the little zipper pouch it has. I don't know that the "bonk" would be instantly remedied by 100 cal of sugar + a bit of salt, but it couldn't hurt. Anybody here use those "fuel belts"? I hate the feeling of anything bouncing on my hips/back/belly, but I also hate carrying stuff in my hand. So I may get one, though I don't like spending the $ if I'm not going to use it...

Anyhoo, fish, maybe carry a pack of beans for use as needed next time. I do like the wheels idea. Makes me think of Phillip Pullman's books, His Dark Materials.

Nanci
06-22-2006, 11:36 AM
http://tinyurl.com/pbanc

I was reading in the What Animals Do You See thread about someone's DH who saw a condor in the wild. I've been thinking about them all day. This link is to the story of the last free birds before they were captured and taken into captivity to try to save the species, and what happened to them in captivity, and how they all ended up. It's pretty short. I should feel happy for them, but it really makes me feel like crying, too.

Nanci

DrBee
06-22-2006, 11:58 AM
Wow Nanci. I just read the condor article. I see what you mean. Happy that they are being released, but sad at the same time. The last line is a doozy.

I'm sure you're familiar with the ivory-billed woodpecker stories, right? Thought to be extinct, but a few credible sightings have been made. Oddly enough - my postdoc's husband is one of the people that has made a credible siting! They live in the Atchafalaya, which is where he saw it - 3 times! Now that's happier, eh?

Lise - I'm so new to running that I've seen the fuel belts, but haven't tried one. It looks uncomfortable to me. RunningMommy should have a solution to this, right? She's got to have a way to carry water with her in AZ! I don't know if she's lurking in this thread or not.

Got chocolate - have you noticed how expensive candy is these days? I bought Hershey's kisses. Bleh - I haven't had them in a while. They're pretty bad.

Gee, NPR reported this AM that MS is the unhealthiest state in the country and the the MS Delta (where I live) is the unhealthiest place in the state so therefore the unhealthiest place in the country. Isn't that just lovely...

Enough drift for now - I have a paper to write!

DrBee
06-22-2006, 12:35 PM
I don't like carrying water with me, but if I don't, my route is constrained to where there are water fountains. If I forget and deviate, I'm in bad shape. I have a water bottle with a mesh handle thing that makes it easier to carry. A pack of Sport Beans fits perfectly in the little zipper pouch it has. I don't know that the "bonk" would be instantly remedied by 100 cal of sugar + a bit of salt, but it couldn't hurt. Anybody here use those "fuel belts"? I hate the feeling of anything bouncing on my hips/back/belly, but I also hate carrying stuff in my hand. So I may get one, though I don't like spending the $ if I'm not going to use it...


Uh Lise - look at the running threads - there's one about carrying water on long runs. I just saw it - good info. Nanci's carrying device looks pretty cool!

Good advice - I am going to pack some sport beans. I picked up some cheap-o shirts for running in that have wicking material (by Danskin) at ......the dreaded Wallyworld for $9 - they actually have a zipper pouch in the back that works great for sport beans! I wear them for some of my rides, too. They don't wick as well as the jersey's, but they're sleeveless and I don't have a sleeveless jersey. Sometimes it's just too hot to have something on my shoulders.

Lise
06-22-2006, 12:43 PM
OK, this is officially "Thread Whine":

I just got back from a "run". Run a block, can't breathe, think I'm going to puke, walk a block, feel better, repeat. Finally turn around, come home, figure, at least I got in 2.5 miles. Check pedometer. 1.73 miles. ****! (I just typed four stars. You fill in the letters.) I even ate some sport beans and drank my entire bottle of water.

Worked last night, but it was mostly quiet, so I got several hours of (fitful) sleep. Hadn't heard from photo guy since Tues night, so wrote him an email, he wrote back, blah, blah, general info on what he's been up to, signed off with, "Stay in touch". Stay in touch?!? Fer cryin' out loud. How disappointing.

I am dripping sweat, and it's supposedly only 78 degrees out. I can't run more than a block without panting and wanting to puke. Is it the extraordinarily expensive Enell bra that feels like it's crushing my ribs and impinging on my gastric sphincter (will that word be censored?)

Tomorrow I'll run before work, when it's cool, my favorite time to run. Then I'll ride to work, and, since it looks like I won't be going on a date, I'll go for a ride after work. That's truly something to look forward to.

Now I'm going to shower, take a nap, and ride my bike to volleyball in three hours. Thanks for letting me whine here.

Lise
06-22-2006, 12:47 PM
Gee, NPR reported this AM that MS is the unhealthiest state in the country and the the MS Delta (where I live) is the unhealthiest place in the state so therefore the unhealthiest place in the country. Isn't that just lovely...
I didn't hear that story--is it so unhealthy because of the lifestyle of the inhabitants, or because of pollutants, weather....?

Sounds like a great deal on the shirts, and I like the little zipper pocket idea. I like just about anything that has a pocket! L.

Nanci
06-22-2006, 12:49 PM
Yeah, that Ivory Bill news is a pretty big deal. I saw the video and heard the recordings- I'm convinced. Now what we really need are some photos. I wonder how many there are...I hope enough to make a recovery.

I wonder how the adult condors felt, being released after so many years in captivity. I was reading about how they try to make the released captive-bred birds averse to human contact by capturing them temporarily and putting them in "timeout!" It said that juvenile condors get in trouble because they are curious and not afraid of humans, so back in the old days when there was a wild population that had never been in captivity, they would still get to close to humans and get shot or whatever.

Lise, was your heart rate really high? That's what makes me feel like puking is a high heart rate. Hard to avoid in the afternoon in the summer. You might try taking an electrolyte cap _before_ you start, and putting a bandana of ice around your neck.

Nanci

Lise
06-22-2006, 12:56 PM
Lise, was your heart rate really high? That's what makes me feel like puking is a high heart rate. Hard to avoid in the afternoon in the summer. You might try taking an electrolyte cap _before_ you start, and putting a bandana of ice around your neck.

Nanci
I don't know--I wasn't wearing the HRM. It certainly felt high. I've never tried the electrolyte caps, but I'm going to get some. I'm telling you I was dripping sweat. It gets pretty frustrating, trying to fit in runs with my schedule. At this moment I WANT to just go ride as hard as possible, because I'm feeling frustrated, but instead I'm going to eat something salty and go lie down in the AC. Thanks, Nanci. L.

maillotpois
06-22-2006, 01:01 PM
Wow Nanci - that condor article was amazing. Thanks for pointing us to it. I had no idea what was going on - I knew they were endangered, etc., but that story is incredible. I also had no idea they lived that long!

DrBee
06-22-2006, 01:04 PM
He's not the one that shot video, but has had sightings. They have had a few photographers come out and try, with no success. I'll have to ask when they're going to try again.

The condor powerline aversion training sounded pretty horrific.

Lise - maybe you should ask photo guy on a date?? Coffee or something simple, I don't know. That sounds like a not-so-fun run. Maybe it's just not a good day for running. I'm sweating just sitting here in my way-too-hot office. There's no air moving in here. whine. whine. whine. Stop rolling your eyes Nanci :p

I hope you all have a glorious evening - I'm heading home for more visiting with the in-laws tonight.

DrBee
06-22-2006, 01:07 PM
Lise - health issues are primarily related to obesity, heart problems, and diabetes, ...and poor healthcare, low income, and poor eating habits - all of which are intertwined.

Nanci
06-22-2006, 02:58 PM
Speaking of wine, on the menu for tonight is a new Chardonnay from an old favorite vintner, Chateau Ste. Michelle, or, possibly, one of my favorite red blends which I buy when I want something really cheap ($8) really good, really reliable- Bonny Doone Big House Red. Sitting in the fridge is my beloved dessert wine favorite, Bonny Doone Vionier Doux. It has to wait until the weekend. I am so pleased with my new method of wine label preservation- photographing them, printing them out, and gluing them into my log book. It's worked out so well. The log book is kind of like a mini diary, too, because I write what I was doing, even for the second, third, etc. bottles. So there is one from when we were at Fort Wilderness for the Florida Half IM, (I think that's the World Championship for the half) and from the night I finished my 600k brevet, and from Six Gap, etc.

For dinner is lo mein- house lo mein (chicken, pork, shrimp and beef) with no veg because BF can't even pick it out, and $2 extra beef and $2 extra shrimp!! Yum!! It lasts for two or three meals. Wish he'd hurry up and get home.

Time to take the babies out to graze! I really got eaten by ants when I had them out yesterday.

It's 93F here, but only 84 in the house, and 74 in the bedroom!!

The flowered Prana capris that I have been drooling over for a year, too expensive even on sale, have sold out in my size :-( Good thing I really like the Sugoi black flowered tank I bought to go with them, someday, a lot by itself...

But I _did_ buy a pair of Insport (what is that???) shorts at Sierra Trading Post only because they have a purple stripe down the side. I'm sure they will suck. But maybe not! They might prove to be the exception to the rule of you get what you pay for.

I have chocolate in the fridge, but I am ignoring it. A Mars Bar from SS, which I can't say I have ever eaten. When I was a kid, I didn't like caramel or nuts, and as an adult I like mostly dark choc, plain, but also in the form of truffles, or choc covered ginger or orange peel or espresso beans (only to be eaten in the safety of my own home!!)

I'm reading, in the bathroom, the Chris Carmichael nutrition book right now, and Snickers is an approved food! But I don't eat them- just passing that on for those who do.

I'm reading (out on the patio) a book called Nature Noir, about a ranger in the Auburn Dam area in California. I'm at the part where the runner gets eaten by a mountain lion. People on the ultra running list knew her. Can you imagine knowing someone who got eaten? If I had to die, I'd rather be eaten by a cougar than hit by a car.

I'm reading, in bed, the newest Stephen King book, Cell, where everyone on a cell phone gets some mysterious pulse that turns them into a kind of zombie with a group awareness- don't know why yet. Some people don't have phones, and leave their cities, walking only at night when the crazies are asleep. It's good so far.

Trek420
06-22-2006, 03:12 PM
My neighbor found out her dog could hardly hear so she
took it to the veterinarian. He found that the problem
was hair in its ears. So he cleaned both ears and the
dog could hear fine. The vet then proceeded to tell
the lady that if she wanted to keep this from
recurring she should go to the store and get some
"Nair" hair remover and rub it in the dog's ears once
a month. The lady goes to the drug store and gets
some Nair" hair remover. At the register the druggist
tells her, "If you're going to use this under your
arms, don't use deodorant for a few days." The lady
says, "I'm not using it under my arms." The
druggist says, "Well if you're using it on your legs,
don't shave for a couple of days." The lady says,
"I'm not using it on my legs either. If you must
know, I'm using it on my schnauzer!" The druggist
says, "Stay off your bicycle for a week."

:)

Nanci
06-22-2006, 03:51 PM
On their wedding night, the young bride approached her new husband and asked for $20.00 for their first love-making encounter. In his highly aroused state, he readily agreed.

This scenario was repeated each time they made love, for more than 30 years, with him thinking that it was a cute way for her to afford new clothes and other incidentals that she
needed.

Arriving home around noon one day, she was surprised to find her husband in a very drunken state. During the next few minutes, he explained that his employer was going through a process of corporate downsizing, and he had been let go. It was unlikely that, at the age of 59, he'd be able to find another position that paid anywhere near what he'd been earning, and therefore, they were financially ruined.

Calmly, his wife handed him a bank book which showed more than thirty years of steady deposits and interest totaling nearly $1 million. Then she showed him certificates of deposits issued by the bank which were worth over $2 million, and informed him they were one of the largest depositors in the bank.

She explained that for the more than three decades she had "charged" him for sex, these holdings had multiplied and these were the results of her savings and investments.

Faced with evidence of cash and investments worth over $3 million, her husband was so astounded he could barely speak, but finally he found his voice and blurted out, "If I'd had any
idea what you were doing, I would have given you all my business!"

That's when she shot him.

You know, sometimes, men just don't know when to keep their mouths shut!

DrBee
06-22-2006, 04:03 PM
OMG! ROFLMAO for both of those! Nanci - your's snuck up on me. What a great way to start a long weekend! We're travelling to Knoxville tomorrow - woodturning workshop for hubby.

We're doing gourmet pizza with the in-laws tonight. I get to eat the leftover crabs :D

House is 80F, office was 78F but with no airflow - I was melting all day! Ceiling fans are on at home - makes it feel cooler. Kids are in the pool with grandparents. I'm heading to the kitchen to make cookies for the woodturning thing. I get to hang out with the wives at this thing. Should be interesting. Wish I could let them watch the kids and I could bring my bike ;)

Nanci - where don't you read ;)

maillotpois
06-22-2006, 04:35 PM
OMG Nanci that is great!!

bikerz
06-22-2006, 07:48 PM
Just wanna say...

It's been about 100 degrees in the East Bay today (105 in San Rafael, where I worked at a client site until waaaay too late!) ... but that's OK because right now, I'm sitting on the deck, sipping a martini, listening to Django Reinhardt and eating carrots and a few trisquits with sharp cheddar. Ahhhh... (except that these low sodium trisquits aren't quite as good as the real thing!)

As soon as I catch up on TE, I'm going to catch up on my New Yorkers! Nice evening, huh?

maillotpois
06-22-2006, 07:54 PM
Hey BikerZ - We're picking up our Rafanelli over the weekend. We may have a bottle to spare if you want to buy it.... I can't remember anymore how much they were, probably in the 30 range.

bikerz
06-22-2006, 08:01 PM
Hey BikerZ - We're picking up our Rafanelli over the weekend. We may have a bottle to spare if you want to buy it.... I can't remember anymore how much they were, probably in the 30 range.

WOW!!!! Absolutely! Just let me know if you have anything to spare, and how much! Oh, I'm so excited!

I'm going to be in Napa all weekend (family thing) - I may go wine tasting Saturday wth my sister... I haven't been wine tasting in Napa for a while - any suggestions for out-of-the way places?

We may have some good wine this family thing - my dad grows Cab grapes for Caymus...

(BTW, Has anyone else noted that ths thread is mostly about birds, wine and chocolate?)

DrBee
06-22-2006, 08:14 PM
(BTW, Has anyone else noted that ths thread is mostly about birds, wine and chocolate?)

I hadn't realized that - but you're oh so right! How funny!

maillotpois
06-22-2006, 08:20 PM
Well, it's sure as heck not about bikes!

Lise
06-22-2006, 08:26 PM
(BTW, Has anyone else noted that this thread is mostly about birds, wine and chocolate?)
...and guys *I* meet. :rolleyes:

Trek420
06-22-2006, 09:27 PM
Lise "...and guys *I* meet. :rolleyes:"

yep, but we couldn't well call it "Chocolate, whine, birds and the Lises incredible adventures" thread" could we?

Just got back from dog obedience class with Mae, that'll be Thursdays through August. Dog is sacked out on the floor, learning is so hard in the heat.

KnottedYet
06-22-2006, 09:52 PM
I have no chocolate. I have no wine. I ate the last bird meat for lunch. Not meeting any guys;) .

But my bike is doing great!!

:D

Knot-the-Snot

annie
06-22-2006, 10:38 PM
"I bike, therefore I may drink wine." (in)famous quote ! :D

annie

ooops, no chocolate quotes. Sorry! I am not a chocolate person. :confused:
Nor a bird person. So I hope it's okay that I jumped in on the thread. I have to say, this is one of the coolest threads on the board. So spontaneous!

Nanci
06-23-2006, 04:34 AM
Lise, right before I clicked to the next page, I was going to say, "Yeah, and all the guys Lise meets!"

I called Running Mommy last night, because I watched (finally) the Pirate Remix DVD. I still can't believe it!!! I am so proud of her!!! I was crying... I am so glad they didn't show the people who didn't make it- that kills me. I hope the webcast is better for 2007- that was one of the most stressful days of my life!

Can't wait to go ride tomorrow. I am working OT again Sunday.

I wonder if I do better than a lot of people in the heat because I spend so much time out on the patio when it's 90-95F with the torts and Dill, and almost never turn on the AC in my truck- just drive with the windows down...

Going to be super busy at work today.

Lise
06-23-2006, 05:03 AM
...the weather is gorgeous today, 63 degrees, sunny, breezy. I ran my usual 2 mile loop, and it was easy. Felt perfect. When I got to one mile (as previously measured on my bike odometer), I checked my pedometer. It read .87. I knew I went 2 miles yesterday! I had run a different route yesterday, so I couldn't be positive about the pedometer, but it felt like 2 miles (well, no, it felt like 78 miles, really...:o ) Don't know how the thing got out of whack, but I adjusted it. Total of 2.17 mi this morning. It's a big deal, because I haven't felt that good, running, in a long time.

I wonder what role genetics vs aclimation plays in heat/cold tolerance.

Now to shower, eat, and ride to work. What a beautiful day! :D L.

PS: Yep, major weeping watching the IM DVD! Triflor, looking forward to yours!!!

DrBee
06-23-2006, 05:11 AM
Good morning! Glad to hear you had a good run today, Lise! I slipped in a quick ride before our trip. I rode 12 miles or so. It was super humid so I am nice and sweaty. I definitely am getting some better speed with the clipless pedals! No chain tatoo today either :) I nearly damaged myself getting on the bike, but it *was* 5:30 am. ;)

Nanci, I think you are definitely better acclimated to the heat than I am. I don't always have to have the AC on in the car, but when I ride in the heat I get so zapped. I sweat and sweat and sweat.

Have you had Dan's Chocolates? They're truffles of all sorts. My mom sent some to Mr. Fish for Father's day - yummy!

Heading to the showers and then to pack the car.

Nanci
06-23-2006, 07:26 AM
I don't really sweat until I stop moving, on the bike. Then it just starts pouring.

I wish I was going to be in Napa all weekend...

Nanci

snapdragen
06-23-2006, 09:25 AM
I wish I was going to be in Napa all weekend...

Nanci

No you don't - NASCAR is at Infieon Speedway this weekend. Napa, Sonoma -- avoid!

Pax
06-23-2006, 09:30 AM
Just thought I'd share my good news...I got a JOB!! :D

I've been looking since April (since we got here to Tucson) and have had zero luck. Well I just got off the phone with the manager of the local dive shop and since I did such a good job with the safety diver gig last week...she offered me a job! It's part-time to start but with tons of hours in July and August (heavy dive travel season). My SO and I will be fine money-wise now so I can stop sweating! AND it's one of those dream jobs where I get to work in shorts, sandals, and t-shirt while talking diving all day.

Quillfred
06-23-2006, 09:36 AM
Hey, congratulations!

Nice to see you back. Are you still able to ride early morning in Tucson? You can toss some heat up to Seattle. :cool:

How far does one travel to dive? Is there cave diving in the Grand Canyon or is it coastal travel?

Trekhawk
06-23-2006, 09:39 AM
Im thinking San Fran looks nice for the weekend 72 degrees on Sunday compared to 103 where I am and 113 in Sacramento.:eek:
Now even by Aussie standards 113 is pretty hot.

Pax
06-23-2006, 09:59 AM
Hey, congratulations!

Nice to see you back. Are you still able to ride early morning in Tucson? You can toss some heat up to Seattle. :cool:

How far does one travel to dive? Is there cave diving in the Grand Canyon or is it coastal travel?
Thanks!

To me it's too hot to ride at all, I went from IL winter to AZ summer in three days and I'm just not acclimated (I get really nauseous when I'm outside for more than 20 minutes). I hear Fall is gorgeous though!

Most diving is done in the Sea of Cortez in Mexico, 3 hours away is Rocky Point (so-so diving) or 7 hours to San Carlos (amazing diving). Lots of folks head to CA on long weekends to wreck dive off Sandy Eggo.

Lise
06-23-2006, 10:09 AM
Queen, that sounds like a great gig! Congratulations!

The weather says it's 69 here in Chgo right now, but it felt chillier than that riding home from the clinic. Yesterday I was dripping sweat and gasping for breath running in 78 degrees. Who knows!

Enjoy your new home! Lise

Tater
06-23-2006, 10:20 AM
I want to go diving! I haven't strapped on a tank since I left Guam nine years ago.

Decided to start running again. Dusted off my Asics and had to dig out my running shorts which were buried under all my bike shorts. Dog will be rather happy to accompany me, since he has to stay home when I ride.

Nanci
06-23-2006, 11:09 AM
Say hi to the whales for me, then. I've always wanted to dive in Sea of Cortez...Isn't there something else special there- can't think of it right now- mantas? Whale sharks??

Well, congratulations.

Nanci

Pax
06-23-2006, 11:56 AM
Say hi to the whales for me, then. I've always wanted to dive in Sea of Cortez...Isn't there something else special there- can't think of it right now- mantas? Whale sharks??

Well, congratulations.

Nanci
Thanks! SoC has mantas, whale sharks, seal, hammerheads, turtles...I can't wait to work down there some!!

Nanci
06-23-2006, 12:24 PM
It has those friendly whales, too, that follow the boats around.

http://www.bajalife.com/v4pg38.htm

I read that it started out with one friendly mama, who taught her baby to like humans, and then it spread to all of them. A biologist, I was reading, thought that whales were just reverting to their normal curious friendly behaviour, and that they only learned to be afraid of humans during the times when they were being hunted.

Trek420
06-23-2006, 01:17 PM
Nanci "...Isn't there something else special there- can't think of it right now- mantas? Whale sharks??"

margaritas?

congratulations Queen! Enjoy the dream job,

Brina
06-23-2006, 02:07 PM
Just thought I'd share my good news...I got a JOB!! :D

I've been looking since April (since we got here to Tucson) and have had zero luck. Well I just got off the phone with the manager of the local dive shop and since I did such a good job with the safety diver gig last week...she offered me a job! It's part-time to start but with tons of hours in July and August (heavy dive travel season). My SO and I will be fine money-wise now so I can stop sweating! AND it's one of those dream jobs where I get to work in shorts, sandals, and t-shirt while talking diving all day.



congratulations - that sounds like a awesome job. I neither get to dive nor talk diving enough these days.

Lise
06-23-2006, 07:09 PM
The Gay Games are in Chicago this year. I don't know much about it; never paid much attention... I wasn't at all athletic (I started to type "I wasn't very athletic." Yeah, if not at all = not very! :o ) Anyway...

I wanted to see if they had a triathlon. They do. Both Olympic and Sprint. Each costs $125 to enter! WOW! $125 for a sprint tri that's over in less than 90 min for most people. All I can figure is it must cost a lot of money to put on this shindig, and they get it from entry fees, in part.

It's July 16, a Sunday. I may go down and cheer, just cuz any triathlon finish line makes me cry! :D L.

Pax
06-23-2006, 07:41 PM
The Gay Games are in Chicago this year. I don't know much about it; never paid much attention... I wasn't at all athletic (I started to type "I wasn't very athletic." Yeah, if not at all = not very! :o ) Anyway...

I wanted to see if they had a triathlon. They do. Both Olympic and Sprint. Each costs $125 to enter! WOW! $125 for a sprint tri that's over in less than 90 min for most people. All I can figure is it must cost a lot of money to put on this shindig, and they get it from entry fees, in part.

It's July 16, a Sunday. I may go down and cheer, just cuz any triathlon finish line makes me cry! :D L.
I wish I was there, I'd head over with you. I also missed the Bike The Drive this year...did you make it??

Lise
06-23-2006, 07:43 PM
I wish I was there, I'd head over with you. I also missed the Bike The Drive this year...did you make it??
Nope, I was in Utah for a professional conference. That is a fun ride.

Quillfred
06-23-2006, 07:49 PM
Thanks!



Most diving is done in the Sea of Cortez in Mexico, 3 hours away is Rocky Point (so-so diving) or 7 hours to San Carlos (amazing diving). Lots of folks head to CA on long weekends to wreck dive off Sandy Eggo.

Wow, that is so awesome! One of my dream adventures would be to kayak into the Sea of Cortez. I don't know if it will be too much cooler but at least you should have a sea breeze.

Did someone say Margaritas????? :p

Trek420
06-23-2006, 09:43 PM
Quillfred "Did someone say Margaritas?????"

I did I did

DirtDiva
06-24-2006, 01:34 AM
I reckon if they put margaritas at the top of every hill, I'd climb 'em a lot quicker! :D

Lise
06-24-2006, 05:29 AM
Dear USAT,

Please consider switching up the order of the events in sanctioned triathlons. I know for sure I would run much faster if I were running to my bike. I'm sure the other triathletes won't mind the change. Thanks ever so, LH

DrBee
06-24-2006, 06:28 AM
Wow - I was offline for a day and there are a gazillion posts in thread drift!

Queen - congrats on the job! That's super cool! I haven't been diving in 15 years! I used to love it. Enjoy it - sounds like a dream opportunity.

We're in Knoxville this weekend. I'd love to have my bike here - there are actual hills! It's amazing what a difference in habitat and latitude will do for reducing mosquitos. We sat out on the patio last night until 9:00 and not a single mosquito was seen! At home, we would've been little husks of people. Nanci - what are the squitters like around you?

We saw a team car for Team-Will.org from California with a big sign on the back that said "bikes ahead" on I40. Anybody know them?

Trek420
06-24-2006, 06:38 AM
according to the website it's a cross country ride that's a fundraiser to fight childrens cancers. There's a map that shows their progress cross the country, cool that you saw them. Who are they headed to next?

Brina
06-24-2006, 06:45 AM
I reckon if they put margaritas at the top of every hill, I'd climb 'em a lot quicker! :D


I agree, although I might wobble a bit on the descent.

Lise
06-24-2006, 07:19 AM
I saw a guy on a bike yesterday, pulling a little covered cart with a Rottie puppy in it! I thought, "Look! It's baby Brina!" :D

DrBee
06-24-2006, 07:29 AM
Trek - we must have seen them as they were leaving Nashville. Looks like they're headed to Raleigh, NC. Yesterday they were taking almost the same route we did. We were on 40 and it looks like they were paralleling it. Whoever was riding (we didn't see any riders, unfortunately) had to go through some really bad storms. Not fun.

DrBee
06-24-2006, 07:33 AM
I'm sitting here waiting on another family (wife and kids) to meet us to go swimming. My kids are currently trading off jumping on the beds and playing hide and seek under the covers. At least y'all can bring me some sanity :)

There are some really bad cartoons on toon disney channel. Help me! ;)

Pax
06-24-2006, 08:01 AM
Just got up and am sitting here a bit catatonic. I don't know how you do it fishdr, I'm just sitting here in a very quite (just two adults) house, I think my head would pop if there was yelling and jumping going on first thing in the am. :eek:

Trek420
06-24-2006, 08:26 AM
fishdr "Looks like they're headed to Raleigh, NC."

ok, who here's in Raleigh?

sorry about the zoo fishdoc, I could not take it either.

Brina
06-24-2006, 08:56 AM
I saw a guy on a bike yesterday, pulling a little covered cart with a Rottie puppy in it! I thought, "Look! It's baby Brina!" :D


they do make the world's cutest puppies - like little bear cubs.



Just got up and am sitting here a bit catatonic. I don't know how you do it fishdr, I'm just sitting here in a very quite (just two adults) house, I think my head would pop if there was yelling and jumping going on first thing in the am.

Better not ever come to our house.:D I will never understand how I could have given birth to morning people.

KnottedYet
06-24-2006, 12:24 PM
I just love it that 'round midday on weekends there is almost NO activity on this board! We're all out riding!:p

Trek420
06-24-2006, 12:52 PM
'cept for those of us working :mad:

AuntieK
06-24-2006, 01:08 PM
We saw a team car for Team-Will.org from California with a big sign on the back that said "bikes ahead" on I40. Anybody know them?

I just had to jump on this thread to say, "WOW!" because I saw the team car traveling down I-15 in Utah a week or two back. Hadn't really thought much about it 'til I saw this thread. I'll have to watch the website for progress now.

Trek420
06-24-2006, 01:11 PM
AuntieK "I just had to jump on this thread to say, "WOW!" ..."

I'm sorry, you can not just jump in like that. We only allow the discussion of birds, chocolate and Lises dates on thread Drift :rolleyes: :cool: ;) ;)

Nanci
06-24-2006, 01:35 PM
I saw some great birds on my cameraless ride today. A huge flock of cattle egrets, a sandhill crane, an ibis, some dark heron.

There aren't any mosquitos here because it hasn't rained. When I am sitting out at night, there are gnats. On some rides, more to the south, I've been bothered by deer flies if I stop. Not too bad right now. I'd rather have rain and mosquitos than none.

DrBee
06-24-2006, 04:37 PM
Aaaahhhh - the day is almost over. The kids just got out of the pool (we went to the BBQ instead of pool this morning). The little one is passed out on the bed. The not-as-little one is changing clothes. We're headed out to dinner with the other family. I've had a lot more fun on this trip than I thought I would. Made new friends and eaten a lot of good food. Too much perhaps. At least they're not jumping on the beds anymore. I think they're worn out :D It made me smile to hear that y'all would've been going crazy, too. :)

AuntieK - cool that you saw the team, too. They're finishing up in the next day or two. They've raised something like $47,000! Wow! They're ending up in VA - I know we have people from there on here.

Here's my chocolate discussion requirement - had some good brownies today :)

Off to dinner - talk to y'all later tonight!

DrBee
06-24-2006, 04:38 PM
Oh yeah - Nanci we have mosquitos every month of the year. Drought or not. We're surrounded by rice fields :)

Lise
06-24-2006, 04:55 PM
AuntieK "I just had to jump on this thread to say, "WOW!" ..."

I'm sorry, you can not just jump in like that. We only allow the discussion of birds, chocolate and Lises dates on thread Drift :rolleyes: :cool: ;) ;)
They also talk a lot about wine. I just whine. I say, jump on in, especially if you've got a really nice, pretty well educated, currently unmarried, >5'9", employed, reasonably active guy friend who's not intimidated by a woman who is pretty smart and likes to ride her bike really fast....;) Even if you don't! Thread drift is open to all comers. It would be a good idea to arrive with chocolate...

I ate a lousy brownie today--I made these brownies around Christmas and froze the leftovers. 6 months later, I found them. Microwaved one for 10 seconds and ate it. That was not tasty. The things I'll do for chocolate.

Photo guy is being very polite and friendly, but not taking up my hints that I'd like to see him again, so his status is now "in the wind", alas. and the beat goes on...

I'm at work, one lady laboring away, another lady on her way in, so I hope to have at least one birth before my shift ends. I plan to bike down to the lake tomorrow evening for a seminar on the beach. about wetsuits and open water swims. Should be fun.

KnottedYet
06-24-2006, 06:11 PM
Dear Trek,

If yer workin', how come yer on TE?

I wish my work was like that....:D

Still have no chocolate, no wine, no birds, and no guys. (can I substitute "gorgeous hotties" for "guys" in that order? and can I supersize that?);) ;)

going out grocery shopping in a bit. Can remedy the first 3 with enough $$. Have no idea what to make for dinner. Maybe just nachos.

Trek420
06-24-2006, 07:09 PM
KnottedYet "Dear Trek,

If yer workin', how come yer on TE?

I wish my work was like that....:D"

oh no you don't ;)

DrBee
06-24-2006, 08:02 PM
I am going to have to ride a loooonnnnggggg time when I get back. I've eaten way too much food over the past 2 days. We've had pizza 3 nights in a row. 1st night - gourmet pizza....2nd night Papa Johns ...tonight - something in between. Then I had Marble Slab ice cream (chocolate mint with almonds - yummmmmmmm). I feel like such a glut. Tomorrow I sit in the car the whole day. I won't get to ride until Tuesday. I think I'm not eating much tomorrow.

Lise - that's too bad about photo guy. Maybe he's just dense. Either way - maybe there'll be a perfect guy sitting next to you at the seminar.

Trek - what's your job again?

Big kid - passed out on the bed. Little one - still moving around.

Brina
06-24-2006, 09:11 PM
Just got home from seeing Bonnie Rait and Keb'Mo - man they rock. Hard to believe their ages. Apparently, if rock n roll doesn't kill you young it keeps you young. They were serving some nice wine and the concert and it is such a beautiful evening that we had the top down for the ride there and home. All in all a perfect evening.

Lise, sorry photo guy is being a dolt.

fish, why is that they never manage to pass out at the same time? a question that has haunted parents since the beginning of time.

well, better get off to bed, I am meeting a friend to ride at 7 am.

Lise
06-24-2006, 09:26 PM
Lise, sorry photo guy is being a dolt.

I'm sayin!
............................
Bonnie Raitt is my hero for rocking on. I'll bet it was a great show.
............................
Sleep tight, one and all. There's one more baby in the world tonight. A fat little 8# 3oz boy. :D

KnottedYet
06-24-2006, 10:26 PM
Welcome to the world, baby!

(don't catch my cold or any variation thereof)

crazycanuck
06-25-2006, 02:53 AM
Fishdr-i don't know how you keep sane...

zzzz..Crazycanuck is just about out of oomph for the day/weekend...

Sat am..ohhh i got to sleep in..til 930am!!! We were going to go out to jarrahdale(45min-1hr from home) & do some laps on the 12hr (mtb)track but that fell through. We had to book our tickets to nz, get some yardwork done & just blob really...

A bit of a rant kids-
My mom rang around 930 on sat which was a welcome relief as i hadn't heard from her for a while. She had to go down to the states to help sort my brother out about 3weeks ago......His kids are wonderful & it's too bad they have my brother for a dad. For example, he treats one better than the other & his reason is that's how we were treated when we were younger....i didn't see it that way..I really wonder what planet he was/is on. I refuse to get in touch with him now as he doesn't respond &ya know what-my bro told my mom that i must hate him for some reason as i never contact him...**$%Y$%!!! I keep in touch with my two neices-send them cool stuff from japan/nz/aust but never hear back.

The one thing that ***** me off is that my mom is now taking care of two kids 12 & 7 at aged 60...

I won't go any further..

We went to a wine tasting fundraiser for a young lady who trains with our coach that made it on the Australian team for the world olympic distance tri champs in switzerland in sept i think...I don't drink but hey the food was great!


Today was much better-we went out to jarrahdale & met up with my friend & husband to get some laps in. I had a really annoying headache but went riding anyways-(dehydration, that time of the month..) Renee(friend) & i missed eachother on the second lap as i thought she was going to get some nurofen then join me..I rode about 3k's then stopped & waited for about 10min as thought she'd join me...never did see eachother-she took a wrong turn somewhere but had the sense to turn back. We found eachother in the car park...!!!

Off to wander kids. Have a good sunday.

c

DrBee
06-25-2006, 05:08 AM
Aaahhhh it's 8am and they're still sleeping :) We get back in the car today to head home. Luckily the kids are wonderful in the car. After yesterday, I have a feeling they're going to sleep all day. :D

CC - That's too bad about your brother. You have to wonder what people are thinking sometimes, you know. When I hear my hubby complain about his brother, it makes me not so sad to be an only child. I hope my kids continue to get along as well as they do now.

Lise - it must feel good to bring babies into the world. My 2 were 8#6.5oz (girl) and 9# (boy). The boy did me in. Both were forceps deliveries (came out sunny side up). :eek:

I hope you all have a glorious day. Ride an extra mile for me. I'm headed to the shower.

Brina
06-25-2006, 05:11 AM
morning ride is rained out. boo-hoo-hoo

Lise, it must feel so good to do your job. 8lbs3oz - wow, my boys didn't weigh that put together.

Pax
06-25-2006, 07:34 AM
morning ride is rained out. boo-hoo-hoo

Lise, it must feel so good to do your job. 8lbs3oz - wow, my boys didn't weigh that put together.
Funny how much I hated rainy days in IL, now the sun shines (blazes) every single day, all day. I love the sun but wouldn't mind a bit of rain.

Nanci
06-25-2006, 08:12 AM
How come everyone gets rain except for the state that really needs it???

I am at work. I am extremely bored. Even though I should be _saving_ money, I just bought a really cute tank top for cycling at Sierra Trading Post. Only $19, though. _And_ I got someone to split my hotel room for the 200k Friday night.

I was telling a friend I ride with the story about taking Maizey (corn snake) out for a walk, and how she moves like molasses. He said that's because she doesn't want to be a wild snake. She's like one of those women who wants to marry a millionaire- she saw me coming a mile away! Today is Maizey's favorite day of the week- she gets fed on Sundays.

I am testing the new Brave Soldier Friction Zone (chamois butter) on Dillbird, on his foot/leg which doesn't have pressure sores, but I always worry about it, and his bare little vent area. It smells good. I wonder if he gets a tingly feeling from it like I do!

Hope all you day off people are having good rides.

Nanci

KnottedYet
06-25-2006, 08:18 AM
Sitting on my porch in my rocking chair, watching the sun coming through the trees, listening to the birds, feeling the breeze (wearing a tank-top in the shade). Ahhh, wi-fi is a GOOD thing!

Really want to go for a ride, but don't know if I should with this blasted cold still clogging me up. Oh heck, I'll go for a little flat ride. Bikes are like garlic, they cure everything. Right?

Nanci
06-25-2006, 08:41 AM
Fagalo (eastern box turtle) are a handful of slugs for breakfast yesterday! Slugs are good!

Nanci
06-25-2006, 11:43 AM
A woman was leaving a 7-11 with her morning coffee when she noticed a most unusual funeral procession approaching the nearby cemetery. A long black hearse was followed by a second long black hearse about 50 feet behind. Behind the second hearse was a solitary woman walking a pit bulldog on a leash. Behind were 200 women walking single file. The woman couldn't stand the curiosity. She respectfully approached the woman walking the dog and said, "I am so sorry for your loss, and I know now is a bad time to disturb you, but I've never seen a funeral like this. Whose funeral is it?" The woman replied, "Well, that first hearse is for my husband." "What happened to him?" the woman replied "My dog attacked and killed him." She inquired further, "Well, who is in the second hearse?" The woman answered, "My mother-in-law. She was trying to help my husband when the dog turned on her." A poignant and thoughtful moment of silence passes between the two women. "Can I borrow the dog?" "Get in line."

snapdragen
06-25-2006, 12:50 PM
Went to the farmers market today - as usual, I bought too much. Oranges, apricots, teeny little japanese eggplant, summer squash. A wonderful gazpacho, a nice salmon filet and some tilapia filets. Guess I'm cooking dinner almost everyday this week. Oh I forgot - the tricolored bag of little potatos - yukon golds, reds, and purple!

Now to decide....salmon or tilapia tonight?

KnottedYet
06-25-2006, 01:42 PM
WHIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEE

I'm stuck in bed again. Dang cold! Can hardly breathe, can't stop coughing, nose is a mess.

I need to go for another bike ride!

My bike is calling to me.... "ride... let's ride.... nice day... you don't need to breathe... just ride"

or maybe it's just hypoxic hallucinations

Pax
06-25-2006, 03:28 PM
Went to the farmers market today - as usual, I bought too much. Oranges, apricots, teeny little japanese eggplant, summer squash. A wonderful gazpacho, a nice salmon filet and some tilapia filets. Guess I'm cooking dinner almost everyday this week. Oh I forgot - the tricolored bag of little potatos - yukon golds, reds, and purple!

Now to decide....salmon or tilapia tonight?
Ooooh salmon! Have that first, tilapia will keep better and the salmon will be awsome while it's fresher...you!!

snapdragen
06-25-2006, 03:30 PM
Ooooh salmon! Have that first, tilapia will keep better and the salmon will be awsome while it's fresher...you!!
Really? I didn't know that. Hmm, guess I'll change plans and cook salmon tonight. It's Wild Alaskan King - mmmmmmmmmmmm!

Pax
06-25-2006, 03:35 PM
Really? I didn't know that. Hmm, guess I'll change plans and cook salmon tonight. It's Wild Alaskan King - mmmmmmmmmmmm!
I my experience tilapia is so mild that you don't notice the flavor changes as quickly, the salmon flavor changes are much more noticable when it's been sitting a while (it tastes more oily).

Enjoy, it sounds like a fantastic meal!

DrBee
06-25-2006, 04:54 PM
After eating pizza 3 days in a row - salmon or tilapia sounds sooooooo good! I so badly want to eat something healthy.

We made it back from Knoxville. I saw tons of people on mountain bikes around there (we were in a suburb - Farragut). And.....drumroll...... they were ALL wearing helmets. Contrast - unpacking the car - 4 people ride by my house on bikes and not a single one of them had on a helmet. Aargh!

I'm still waiting on my SS gift to arrive. I was hoping it wouldn't arrive this weekend, because whatever snacky thing was in there would melt. So - good thing. Maybe tomorrow. :)

withm
06-25-2006, 05:26 PM
WHIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEE

I'm stuck in bed again. Dang cold! Can hardly breathe, can't stop coughing, nose is a mess.


I had it all last week. :( Just as I was really riding a lot, and managing to ride faster as well. All I wanted to do all week was ride my bike but all I did was go to work and come home and crash on the couch.

Still congested and lots of coughing but I went out for a "10 mile" ride today - started pretty slow, but somehow managed to do 26 miles since it was such a beautiful day. :) Then went to the pool and lay in the sun for a while, swam a few laps, and just ate takeout shrimp w/penne and vodka sauce. I could almost taste it. Life is good.

KnottedYet
06-25-2006, 05:58 PM
PRIDE PARADE!!!!

Seattle's Pride Parade will be on TV in 7 minutes. (KSTW Channel 11, from 6 pm to 8 pm) I'm so glad, cuz I was home in bed (alone) with the stupid cold that has been dogging my steps for a week now. Hooray! I'll get to see the parade after all!

IIIIIIII love a paraaaaaaade.....

Lise
06-25-2006, 06:01 PM
PRIDE PARADE!!!!

Seattle's Pride Parade will be on TV in 7 minutes. (KSTW Channel 11, from 6 pm to 8 pm) I'm so glad, cuz I was home in bed (alone) with the stupid cold that has been dogging my steps for a week now. Hooray! I'll get to see the parade after all!

IIIIIIII love a paraaaaaaade.....
Have a great time. I am astonished that they broadcast the whole parade! Patience, patience as your body heals...the bike will wait for you and be there for an adventure when you're all healed up. L.

Trek420
06-25-2006, 06:06 PM
I've been back a while, I met Spazzdog and her neighbor, Sarah in the city. Sarah's straight (but not narrow) and her quip "omg, there goes another one, this is like a banquet I can't eat at" had us howling with laughter.

The first groups in the parade were cycilsts or at least 2 wheeled; there were the Dikes on Bykes (misspelled to avoid the **'s) followed by SF's Bike Messengers, then the Mikes on Bikes, then AIDS Lifecycle Riders, Different Spokes, another group.... (I think Gay Games?)....lots of bikes.

We watched the parade for a while till hunger called and we headed for the Civic Center to find a bite to eat.

I ...gulp...signed up for the AIDS Ride again....gulp.

snapdragen
06-25-2006, 06:24 PM
Sarah's straight (but not narrow) and her quip "omg, there goes another one, this is like a banquet I can't eat at" had us howling with laughter.

Mine was always "water, water, everywhere - but not a drop to drink"

Lise
06-25-2006, 07:35 PM
The first groups in the parade were cycilsts or at least 2 wheeled; there were the Dikes on Bykes (misspelled to avoid the **'s) followed by SF's Bike Messengers, then the Mikes on Bikes, then AIDS Lifecycle Riders, Different Spokes, another group.... (I think Gay Games?)....lots of bikes.... I ...gulp...signed up for the AIDS Ride again....gulp.
YAY for you! Awh, we knew you were gonna do it anyways! :D

OK, I'll bite, what are Mikes on Bikes? I love that SF has enough Bike Messengers to mount a contingent in the parade. Sounds fun.

Trek420
06-25-2006, 07:39 PM
they are just a bunch of guys on bike wearing name tags that say "Mike" :D

Lise
06-25-2006, 08:13 PM
they are just a bunch of guys on bike wearing name tags that say "Mike" :D
THAT is pretty d*mned funny.
...............................
I just finished watching the second Kona IM DVD Nanci loaned me (the 25th anniv--this time no skipping of the picture, who knows what was happening before). Incredible. As always, tears running down my face watching the "regular" people finish. "Regular" as if. And, as usual, by the end, I was on the floor doing push ups and crunches, because who can watch an IM on the couch? Nanci, I'll be ordering 2005's DVD with the next paycheck, and then I can return the favor. Dang, but I love triathlon.

Trek420
06-25-2006, 08:27 PM
Is there a tri where you don't run? swim, bike, skip? swim, bike, cartwheels, just anything but run :rolleyes:

KnottedYet
06-25-2006, 08:39 PM
You CAN walk, y'know...

(I'm gonna walk in my tri... it's cool.)

Lise
06-25-2006, 09:06 PM
Is there a tri where you don't run? swim, bike, skip? swim, bike, cartwheels, just anything but run :rolleyes:
Heck, in 2003, one guy lay on the side of the road, unconscious for awhile. Was revived. Got up. Started walking. Ran again to finish. So, appearantly, you can nap in the middle of the run! :p
And if you ever plan to cartwheel the run portion, I'll sell tickets!!! You could do a combo of skip, hop, and cartwheel. I don't think it matters. You just can't use a jet pack or have anyone throw you. Other than that...

In '03, the astonishing story they highlighted was that of a Belgian, Mark Herreman, who finished 6th at Kona in '01. Later that year, he was paralysed from the waist down in a cycling accident. In '02, he attempted Kona again, powered only by his own arms. He didn't make it past the swim though; it turned out he had a kidney infection and was really sick. In '03, he was back. He finished the course with a handcycle and racing wheelchair. 140.6 miles. Incredible. And my excuse was....what? I'm sorry, I'm sure I had a reason I can't get out there and swim/bike/run...dang, where'd that thing get to? It is so cool to be the tiniest part of such a phenomenon. :D

Nanci
06-26-2006, 04:24 AM
Did you guys ever see the movie "25th Hour" with Edward Norton? I have it, watched it a couple years ago, but didn't remember anything beyond it was REALLY good, and the general premise- he's a guy going to jail for seven years for drugs, and it's his last 24 hours to say goodbye/tie up loose ends, with some flashbacks to how he came to be in that position. Man, I forgot the ending, sort of- I was bawling my eyes out! Great film if you haven't seen it. It's got Phillip Seymor Hoffman in it, too- I always like him.

Nanci

DrBee
06-26-2006, 05:22 AM
Lise - I almost forgot to tell you...there were 2 fat dachshunds at the thing I went to in Knoxville. They were the neighbor's dogs. I thought of you immediately! There were amazingly tolerant of the kids. Ben likes to give little dogs big hugs. But geez they were chubby.

Nanci
06-26-2006, 05:31 AM
"Fat dacshund" is usually redundant!

DrBee
06-26-2006, 06:34 AM
True enough. These were twice as big as the fit and trim one in Lise's avatar.

Lise
06-26-2006, 07:05 AM
"Fat dachshund" is just sad. Their backs can't handle the strain of all the weight. Schatzi got a bit pudgy at the end of her life, but my mom never let her get fat. Mom taught us not to overfeed the pups, that it was mean to them in the long run. Schatzi did go through a period of "prison breaks", in which she'd dig out under the fence in the back yard and roam the neighborhood, eating garbage! Mom had to replant the fence deep enough that those tough little legs couldn't tunnel to freedom! :p

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/lisecnm/schatzibed.jpg

PS, Nanci, I loved "25th hour".

DrBee
06-26-2006, 07:10 AM
Awwwwwwww - so cute! They weren't so fat they couldn't run, but were a bit on the pudgy side. Ben gave them some exercise ;)

Nanci
06-26-2006, 08:53 AM
Really, I don't know _why_ we should feel sympathetic for the drug dealer character, except he seems like a decent guy, other than THAT. But he's _not_ reformed, he just got caught because he didn't quit soon enough and got greedy- planning to get a little more for retirement. He doesn't have any other skills or education, so what's he going to do after he gets out of prison anyway?

Weird. But I still love that movie.

Nanci

Lise
06-26-2006, 09:04 AM
I know. I just felt like--what do we (as a society) gain by putting this guy in prison? What a waste of our money. Plus...I like Edward Norton. What can you do? :rolleyes:

Nanci, it's cool and rainy up here, and it looks like rainy all week. I'm thinking of you down in the Sunshine State, and wishing I could sent some rain your way. L.

DrBee
06-26-2006, 09:53 AM
I'm finding it difficult to focus today. I'm still waiting to hear about an interview. Things can move slowly in the gov't. Big surprise, eh? Realistically, I won't hear anything until mid-July or so. However - anticipation drives me crazy!!!

I riding tomorrow morning. I hope to have more confidence this time. When traffic starts to pick up, I've been heading back to the house.

Nanci
06-26-2006, 10:15 AM
We had a good rain yesterday! Now it's in the forecast all week- but just scattered thunderstorms, 40% chance. I wish we'd get back into the afternoon rain cycle.

Nanci

DrBee
06-26-2006, 10:28 AM
I'll think good soaking rain thoughts for you.

Brina
06-26-2006, 10:50 AM
Nanci, it's cool and rainy up here, and it looks like rainy all week. I'm thinking of you down in the Sunshine State, and wishing I could sent some rain your way. L.


why does it always rain on days that I have time to get the new bike out? what is the cosmos tryng to tell me?

Tater
06-26-2006, 11:05 AM
Heh, we are in our typical summer pattern now, high pressure over the area giving us dry and hot conditions. Pushing one hundred today, but I am wishing autumn was here! REI has a clearence sale going on and I picked up a fleece jacket yesterday. I also got Crank Brothers Egg Beaters at my LBS for my commuter! Woo-hoo! I love those pedals!

DrBee
06-26-2006, 11:12 AM
We've cooled off a bit here. It's only supposed to hit 86 as the high all week and low 60's for the lows. VERY unusual for us this time of year.

Tater - I carpool/work with a guy from Idaho.

DrBee
06-26-2006, 03:47 PM
I'm going to a food tasting party tonight :D It's from a restaurant near where I work (The Crown) and their line of food products (Taste of Gourmet). It's a gem here in the Delta. They've been featured on Bobby Flay's show and one of the other shows on Food Network (can't remember the name - Sandra Pinkney hosts it). The restaurant has a dessert table that is all you can eat and is included with your meal. My kind of place :) Should be fun. Maybe they'll have good wine, too. Just maybe ...

maillotpois
06-26-2006, 03:50 PM
Fish - I LOVE your new signature line. That is hysterical. I can just picture the minnow - or is he a fry? - saying that!!!

DrBee
06-26-2006, 08:19 PM
This particular fry is Elizabeth (she's more of a fingerling/minnow now) - a quote from her from last spring. We were talking about some of the funny things she says on our roadtrip this weekend and that one came up. I thought - that has to be my new signature!

Okay - here's the wine report. As we know - I'm no wine expert. I wrote everything down. This, for sure, was cheap wine. But it was actually pretty good. Very sweet. It was called Sweet Walter. The label said that it was an after dinner red table wine. It's from Bully Hill Vineyards in Hammonsport, NY. The label said it was "grapey". It tasted kind of strawberryish to me. Very very sweet. After about 10 minutes I had a nice headache. Could've been from tired eyes, though. Dry eyes today with contacts - not the best combo.

The tasting was good. I'd had most of the items before and enjoyed them all. I even won the door prize - a mix for beer bread. It's soooooo good in the restaurant!

annie
06-26-2006, 09:18 PM
Speaking of wine......... I saw one at the grocery store today that I simply HAD to try. It is a Central Coast Syrah, produced and bottle by Cycles Winery, Soledad, CA. And that's not the best part! The name of the wine is "Cycles Gladiator" and the label is the poster of the naked woman with the flowing hair and flying bicyle. (Poster available for purchase at TE! ) Anyone on here familiar with the area?

The wine was pretty inexpensive so I didn't expect much. I was pleasantly surprised. Rich fruit flavors and a nice, long finish. I would definitely recommend this one! I seriously may go back tomorrow and purchase a case. Would make for great gifts in the future!

annie

snapdragen
06-26-2006, 09:36 PM
I bought this same wine about a month ago...not a bad at all!

http://www.cyclesgladiator.com/




Speaking of wine......... I saw one at the grocery store today that I simply HAD to try. It is a Central Coast Syrah, produced and bottle by Cycles Winery, Soledad, CA. And that's not the best part! The name of the wine is "Cycles Gladiator" and the label is the poster of the naked woman with the flowing hair and flying bicyle. (Poster available for purchase at TE! ) Anyone on here familiar with the area?

The wine was pretty inexpensive so I didn't expect much. I was pleasantly surprised. Rich fruit flavors and a nice, long finish. I would definitely recommend this one! I seriously may go back tomorrow and purchase a case. Would make for great gifts in the future!

annie

Nanci
06-27-2006, 02:59 AM
Hmmm, I drank Sweet Walter Red once (Bully Hill Vineyards). It's from New York. Probably Concord and other natives. VERY sweet. I would like to try some of their drier wines. They have the best labels.

I had a glass of Columbia Crest Shiraz last night, (my old standby Shiraz) which I promptly spilled on this book I'd borrowed from a friend, (Travels With Lucy, about a guy who rides a bike coast to coast starting right where I live) because I was juggling the glass of wine, the book, Dillbird, my palm pilot, a plate of hamburgers/buns/cheese to grill, and a big spatula on my way out the door down the steps to my little patio. Oops! Now I have to buy him another copy...

We watched most of 21 Grams last night- another good film.

I got my new Euro Halter from the Terry sale yesterday when I got home- "Gidget" color. I'd been coveting it, and it went on sale. I like it a lot- will wear it on the 200k Saturday, and also give the new Sugoi RS Flex shorts a real test. It covers more, but still has a shelf bra, which I am really into these days- since cycling is so low impact and it's just easier/cooler.

Bought Maizey $24 of mice last night- EEK!!! and $14 of $7/pound organic bird pellets, and no crickets since they were out...Good thing there's OT at work.

Lise
06-27-2006, 04:50 AM
KnottedYet! You have an avatar! Whoohoo! Are those the famous capris you're wearing? :D

Nanci
06-27-2006, 05:02 AM
Lise! That's a skirt or skort!

Nanci

Lise
06-27-2006, 05:38 AM
Lise! That's a skirt or skort!

Nanci
DOH! Of course it is! I was still groggy, saw the picture, posted, thought of the capri story, didn't go back to look...

Hey! My next post is #1,500. I write toooo much! I'm just drafting off Nanci's posts! :p

Tater
06-27-2006, 06:37 AM
Tater - I carpool/work with a guy from Idaho.
Hey, fishdr, do you know where he's from?

Woo-hoo! Today was/is my last day as a car commuter!

DrBee
06-27-2006, 07:09 AM
Tater - I'm jealous!

I'm working at home today - I'll ask him tomorrow and get back to you.

KnottedYet
06-27-2006, 07:50 AM
SKnot had to help me with the avatar. One of these days I'll learn how to do this stuff. It seems awfully out of focus once it got shrank to 100x100, but I guess that's how it goes.

That's my Terry Commuter Skort, which is almost too big now. I loooooove that skort. Will have to get a smaller one when they go on sale, as long as I can find another hallucinogenic print.

The picture was taken this weekend, before I got the Brooks saddle. Not that you can see the saddle, anyway. I'm pretty impressed by how unobtrusive the black springs are on the Brooks.

Seattle's smog is so bad right now (and it's SO HOT) that the busses are free. I'm gonna ride my bike to work and take back my library books this morning. Gotta use both panniers just to carry all the books.

Ah, the life of a bookworm....

DrBee
06-27-2006, 12:12 PM
It is positively gorgeous here today! It's around 85F, sunny, breezy with relatively low humidity. It's weird, but wonderful! I've been sitting outside doing my work work this afternoon! Quitting time is at 3pm for me today - then I go ride. I was going to ride this morning was too tired and had a headache...going to ride at lunch and felt just bleh...planning to ride at 3pm. It would be such a waste NOT to ride today!

DrBee
06-27-2006, 01:13 PM
Okay ...well... uh...I went back outside and my shade crept away and the sun felt like it was melting my skin off (typical for here). Then my peanut butter and honey sandwich from lunch started feeling like it wanted to make a reappearance. I might have to hold off on the ride. This is very frustrating! I WANT to ride, but my body doesn't seem to want to let me. Aargh!

Lise
06-27-2006, 02:08 PM
Okay ...well... uh...I went back outside and my shade crept away and the sun felt like it was melting my skin off (typical for here). Then my peanut butter and honey sandwich from lunch started feeling like it wanted to make a reappearance. I might have to hold off on the ride. This is very frustrating! I WANT to ride, but my body doesn't seem to want to let me. Aargh!
Ah, my icthyophilic friend, some days are just like that. You'll be flying again soon. Maybe a cool morning ride, when Mr. Fish can watch the minnows. L.

Nanci
06-27-2006, 03:23 PM
Do you know anyone using a Mirena? I feel the need for change, but not a permanent one yet. (But at 47, almost 48- why not? But as my NP says, well, you're not jumping up for joy at the thought of tubal ligation...)

My $45 Sierra Trading Post Insport shorts got here. Predictably, I hate them. Chamois is too mushy, and bulges out through the shorts, especially in front, giving me duckbill coochie, plus, they go up so high, the rise, that they could be maternity shorts.

So to console myself, after consultation with the company about this or the Adamo, I ordered this, from triathlete.com, knocking the price down from $99 to $59 ($5 shipping!!) using the secret code tcom2005.

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/reviews/saddle06.shtml

I ordered the Blackwell Flow. Had seriously considered the Adamo, which caught my attention on two girls' bikes at the last 200k. I got to ride it in the parking lot- it was weird but different but good but???

E-mail from the company guy:

"Thanks for your inquiry, Nanci. The Adamo is a great seat and we've
been selling tons since March (when it was available). We do have a few
women that ride it, but it was designed for a male and most ladies do
not care for the seat. The Flow however remains our best selling
saddle. We've had it on the market for about 5 years now and sell
several per week. That's my recommendation, especially for women.

Please let me know if you have any further questions."

So anyway...

DrBee
06-27-2006, 07:02 PM
Nanci - Looks encouraging that "everyone that has tried the saddle likes it". Too bad about the shorts.

Lise - I'm feeling a tad bit better as the night goes on. Maybe tomorrow :) Our temps are heading back into the 90's. Alas - today was lost, but there's always tomorrow.

Trek420
06-27-2006, 08:07 PM
The "chord" joke that I've heard goes like this:

A C, an E-flat, and a G go into a bar. The bartender says, "Sorry, but we don't serve minors."

So, the E-flat leaves, and the C and the G have an open fifth between them. After a few drinks, the fifth is diminished; the G is out flat.

An F comes in and tries to augment the situation, but is not sharp enough.

A D comes into the bar and heads straight for the bathroom saying, "Excuse me. I'll just be a second."

An A comes into the bar, but the bartender is not convinced that this relative of C is not a minor.

Then the bartender notices a B-flat hiding at the end of the bar and exclaims, "Get out now! You're the seventh minor I've found in this bar tonight."

The E-flat, not easily deflated, comes back to the bar the next night in a 3-piece suit with nicely shined shoes. The bartender (who used to have a nice corporate job until his company downsized) says, "You're looking sharp tonight, come on in! This could be a major development." This proves to be the case, as the E-flat takes off the suit, and everything else, and stands there au natural.

Eventually, the C sobers up, and realizes in horror that he's under a rest. The C is brought to trial, is found guilty of contributing to the diminution of a minor, and is sentenced to 10 years of DS without Coda at an upscale correctional facility. On appeal, however, the C is found innocent of any wrongdoing, even accidental, and that all accusations to the contrary are bassless.

The bartender decides, however, that since he's only had tenor so patrons, the soprano out in the bathroom, and everything has become alto much treble, he needs a rest -- and closes the bar.

Lise
06-27-2006, 08:30 PM
Whoa. That joke.
...............................
Mirena (now we're getting back to something I know something about! :o ) People like it. Main complaint is irregular spotting. Can't predict how much of a problem that would be for any one person. I use the NuvaRing to control my endo pain (the endo's rendered me quite infertile, so contraception's not an issue). I love it. It's easy to insert and remove, you (nor partner) feel it, and I have no hormonal side effects. You can put it in for 3 weeks, go a week without, and put in a new one, for "normal" periods, or do what I do, just remove the old one, put in a new one the same day, and never have a period. I do that to prevent the pain/bleeding/scarring from the endo, but you can also do it that way if, for example, you are going on a long ride and don't want the hassle. Both methods (Mirena and NuvaRing) are highly effective contraceptives. Mirena is progesterone only, so it's a better option for someone in whom estrogen use is contraindicated. Mirena can stay in for 5 years, so it's very easy to use. I'm also a big fan of the copper T IUD. No hormones, can stay there for 10 years, highly effective.
(Standard disclaimer: I am not giving anyone medical advice. This is not a substitute for medical care. Etc.)
...................................
Now, if that doesn't drive away any male lurkers, I don't know what will! :p L.

bikerz
06-27-2006, 10:08 PM
Trek - excellent joke! Unfortunately I'll never remember it, so I'll have to use it only as an email joke... (ahh, the first thing to go after 40 is the memory...) :o

It's nice to be back home, a (so-called) grown-up in my own house, after a trying family weekend... the canine and feline members of my family are so pleasantly uncomplicated!

KnottedYet
06-27-2006, 10:23 PM
Love that joke, Trek! Will have to show it to SKnot, the musical offspring.

Nanci
06-28-2006, 02:48 AM
I used to use Norplant, for three cycles of five years, till they took it off the market, and meanwhile had moved to Florida, and was unable to have it removed, since the office I was being seen at hadn't installed it. Finally they found a GYN who would remove it, for $250!!! (I thought the removal cost was included up front!) I'm like, no way, I'll just keep it forever. But then a PA I worked with took it out for me at work one day...

So I'm suspicious of something like that happening with the Mirena some day, and that's an even worse thing to get a bootleg removal for!

But, they offer 12-month financing, (why doesn't my health insurance cover it, but they do cover every single other thing, including tubal lig and pregnancy???) so that _almost_ makes it affordable. $45 for a year. Geez...

My NP offered the NuvaRing, too, but if I was going to do that, I'd just do the shot.

Is estrogen contraindicated in people with family history of breast cancer?

*************

Finished 21 Grams last night. Maybe something lighter for tonight!!

DrBee
06-28-2006, 05:31 AM
Like the joke Trek!

Lise
06-28-2006, 05:41 AM
Nanci, I'll PM you. L.

maillotpois
06-28-2006, 06:07 AM
thank heaven for my handheld email/internet pda. I was admitted to the hospital yesterday and am SUPER bored. when I get back to a real computer I will post the whole story in a separate thread - there are some good lessons to be learned from it. like: just because you have some bad rides and can't breathe doesn't mean you're just out of shape or having trouble controlling asthma - especially when combined w/sharp chest pain breathing (which woke me up the night before my 85 miler) and followed by coughing up blood a few days later.

I have pulmonary emboli, which probably developed after my 6/6 - 6/8 trip to the east coast. so I have had these clots for a while and it is really lucky nothing serious happened and probably excuses my pretty crummy riding (because of not being able to breathe) of late.

I have an amazing view from my hospital window.

Trek420
06-28-2006, 06:55 AM
mp (((((hugs))))) thank heavens you caught it in time.

Brina
06-28-2006, 08:04 AM
mp - hope you are recovered soon. my husband had a PE a few years back - got misdiagnosed as altitude sickness since we were on a ski trip when it occurred. scary stuff. hope they get your levels regulated soon and let you home.

Trekhawk
06-28-2006, 08:07 AM
Yikes MP that is scary. Hope you are up and about soon.:)

Tater
06-28-2006, 08:31 AM
Cyber hugs to you, MP! Hope you are back on the bike soon!

Lise
06-28-2006, 09:20 AM
Holy crud, MP! So glad you got properly diagnosed. Fight boredom by keeping us updated on a frequent basis. I'll be thinking of you--L.

SadieKate
06-28-2006, 09:34 AM
MP is bored. I offered up some ideas for the day's entertainment. She did say that "dancing shirtless bike mechanics would be fine."

snapdragen
06-28-2006, 09:35 AM
MP is bored. I offered up some ideas for the day's entertainment. She did say that "dancing shirtless bike mechanics would be fine."

Excellent! What hospital is she in, I'm packing my lawn chair so I can go watch too......

SadieKate
06-28-2006, 09:36 AM
Deanna, aren't you the closest to her? Can you round some up and send 'em over? Oh shoot, drive them over. That'll be your excuse for being there. :p

DrBee
06-28-2006, 09:50 AM
MP! Oh my! I'm so glad they diagnosed this before something major happened! I'm wishing you a quick recovery. I would imagine dancing shirtless bike mechanics would do wonders for you today ;)

Take care

AuntieK
06-28-2006, 10:02 AM
Sending get well wishes your way, MP!

Nanci
06-28-2006, 10:36 AM
That's a long time from when you flew till when you were diagnosed! Glad to hear you are ok- PEs are very, very bad.

Nanci

DrBee
06-28-2006, 10:38 AM
One of the articles SK posted in Open Topic says it can take up to 30 days! That is a very long time! I'm trying to figure out how, physiologically, it can take that long. Weird.

Denise223
06-28-2006, 11:42 AM
Hi ((((MP))))

I'm so sorry that you are not well, but even though you're bored, I'm glad to hear that you're being taken care of!! (and happy that you were diagnosed properly!)

Sending prayers that you get well quickly!!

Denise

maillotpois
06-28-2006, 12:14 PM
Thanks guys! I just posted the whole story on open topic. I'm HOME!!!

Nanci
06-28-2006, 02:35 PM
What does "lizard time" mean?

And, Cracker Chicken

(my free-living young Gopher Tortoise, out on his very own in his own home-made burrow for the first summer ever)

has survived the torrential rain, and was not trapped in his burrow

(who knows if they flood or not? or does the sandy soil drain well enough? certainly Mother Nature must have provided a means of survival in burrows in the rain in Florida!)

like, as BF so descriptively put it, a West Virginia coal miner!! Saw him rapidly disappearing when I got home this afternoon.

Yay! We tend to worry about him, not like he's a wild animal with a life of his own or anything.

Very descriptive story, MP. I especially liked the mouthful of blood in the car. Well, who'd have thunk it- I'm sure we have all learned something from your experience!

Do you mean you're a compulsive throat-clearer like that character Sarah Jessica Parker played in that recent movie I didn't see and can't remember the name of?

Nanci

Nanci
06-28-2006, 02:44 PM
Party of One: the Loners' Manifesto

http://www.annelirufus.com/index.html

SadieKate
06-28-2006, 02:52 PM
MP is more of the breathless type.:p Kind of like Marilyn Monroe without the ditzy persona, cuckoo but not ditzy.

Lizard time means it summer and time to lounge in the sun, warm the old bones. Peppermint Mocha season has passsed and we're on to iced lattes. Though Peet's now makes Freddos with Scharfen Berger so I need to go try one and then change the sig line.

Trek420
06-28-2006, 02:56 PM
oooooooh, love the new look SK :D

Lise
06-28-2006, 03:02 PM
Love the avatar, SK.

Have a date tonight with a guy who's friends with a nurse with whom I work. She gave me his number. We talked on the phone for > an hour. I think this is the first truly blind date I've ever had. I said, "Um, what do you look like?" as we were setting up dinner. He told me, I told him, then he said, "We'll recognize each other by the deer-in-the-headlights look on our faces!" Big points for that one. MWBR.

MP! So glad you're home! Scooting over now to read the story! L.

maillotpois
06-28-2006, 03:02 PM
I like the lizard, too!

"compulsive throat clearing" as in I always feel like I have fluid in my lungs. Most recently, apparently I was right, and the fluid was blood. Who'd a thunk?

maillotpois
06-28-2006, 03:03 PM
Oh Lise - sounds like maybe a good one!? Fingers crossed.

Lise
06-28-2006, 03:33 PM
Oh Lise - sounds like maybe a good one!? Fingers crossed.
You guys are so sweet! I'll try to keep you entertained with the novella (Mexican soap opera) that is my life of romance while you recouperate. ;) L.

maillotpois
06-28-2006, 04:11 PM
You guys are so sweet! I'll try to keep you entertained with the novella (Mexican soap opera) that is my life of romance while you recouperate. ;) L.


See! And at least SOMEONE gets some romance!!

Another risk factor for my PE - about 5 months ago I replaced my 10 year old IUD with the nuva ring. Loved it (the ring0! Had to take it out, though, because hormonal BC (even the low dose ring) is a risk factor. So I am sans birth control! We shall have to be inventive while I weigh options.

Any suggestions? Last night, I was reading with some interest the earlier posts about BC. I knew I would be in the market. I did like the IUD, but for the last year I kept getting UTIs - at least 6 a year. My internist said she'd seen a study about an increased UTI risk with IUD. While my OB-GYN scoffed at that (and I know it is a totally different part of the anatomy), the fact is I have had the thing out for 5 months and haven't had a UTI since! So there's something to that.

My paralegal just had her tubes tied (she has thyroid cancer and is done having kids) and she thought it was a great procedure. With the anti coagulants, I don't think elective surgery is in my future.

Maybe it is just DH's turn to do something...

Brina
06-28-2006, 04:24 PM
Maybe it is just DH's turn to do something...


snip, snip

maillotpois
06-28-2006, 04:30 PM
snip, snip


rolling on the floor now (you know the rest!) :D :D

bikerz
06-28-2006, 06:48 PM
snip, snip

Over the weekend I saw my stepsister, who's husband has been snipped (after the 4th kid!). He said "It's not that she doesn't want any more kids. It's that she doesn't want anymore of MY kids!" :D

(By the way, MP - it's great to see you back!)

DrBee
06-28-2006, 06:54 PM
Welcome home MP! I'm heading over to OT to read the whole story. I say have HIM go for the "snip snip", but sometimes that's easier said than done. Mr. Fish says he'll do it once we move to a place with better medical care. We know too many people here that have had post-procedure complications. Ewwwww.

We'll definitely learn a lot from your experience with all of this. I'm so glad you're home and recovering.

Lise
06-28-2006, 08:07 PM
Um, yeah, you know I'm a fan of the ring, but NOT FOR SOMEBODY WITH A PE!!! :eek: Ahem. Glad you took that out. I don't know what effect the anti-coagulants will have on your period. Maybe (again, not giving medical advice) a progesterone-only method would be good. Until Mr. MP gets snipped, of course, as we here at Thread Drift seem to have decided he should :p ! No elective surgery for you for awhile, missy. Interesting about UTIs and IUDs. If you get a chance to ask your doc about the reference, I'd like to see it. I cannot imagine why they'd be linked, but there's an awful lot that I don't know! Local inflammation in the lining of the uterus affecting susceptiblity of the bladder to infection? Hmmmm...anyway.

Date was nice...you know what I say...MWBR. L.

PS: There is, of course, our friend, the condom. Plus spermicide, a winning combination. (Are all the BJ lurkers gone now?)

snapdragen
06-28-2006, 08:20 PM
PS: There is, of course, our friend, the condom. Plus spermicide, a winning combination.

Now I have a picture of a condom with a smiley face......"Hi! I'm your friend Mr. Condom!"

DrBee
06-28-2006, 08:20 PM
Lise - congrats on the date!!! Does this one have potential? Where would we be without your dating adventures ;)

MP - I'm still reeling from reading your story. You are sooooo lucky! To think you made it through all of those tough rides with clots. It boggles the mind. How are you feeling?

DrBee
06-28-2006, 08:21 PM
Now I have a picture of a condom with a smiley face......"Hi! I'm your friend Mr. Condom!"


Ever hear the radio commercials where they sing "Trojan Maaannnnnn"???