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[chickwhorips]

we don't need no education
dun dun dun da
hey! teacher! leave us kids alone...

(sorry can't get youtube at work, gotta put up with my singing)

[Kitsune06]

When Dad OL did a ritual and channeled Hermes"
Dad Out-Law is an ecclectic pagan priest and channeled the god Hermes for a ritual.


I have occasionally seriously wondered when (or if) body modification crosses the line from "art" to just plain sad self mutilation. First there are society-accepted forms of body modification- such as pierced earrings, artificial nails, liposuction, dental braces, breast implants, plastic surgery, girdles, waxing and electrolysis, cosmetic dental procedures, hair implants, etc. (Oh the things we'll do for vanity!) Then, there's "alternative" piercing and tattooing and scarring and branding, seeking pain as ecstasy, etc....so then what about setting yourself on fire, running a knife through your hand, or lopping OFF your ear instead of just having 20 holes pierced in it? Is it ALL "art" and "self expression", even to the point of killing yourself (an extreme example, for sure!).
It's amazing what we will embrace and what we won't. Somehow, it is acceptable to surgically open the natural breast and insert silicone implants, but not to place silicone bead implants in the penis for the purpose of sensation. Somehow it is acceptable to cut the foreskin from an infant male who has no choice in the matter for religious purposes, but illegal, immoral and 'wrong' to remove the hood and labia from an infant female for the same reasons.

Then that makes me think about people who have been through awful accidents and been burned and scarred and amputated...they would give anything to have their bodies be the way they were
I believe the feelings would be because those who have been scarred, who have lost limbs, had no choice in the matter... then there's nullification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_nullification) which is done for one's own personal reasons. I can't argue for or against, but people I know who've been party to it have done so because that offending hand or foot or set of fingers is not in synch with their mental picture of themselves. And this is a need to remove it to the point where one will utterly destroy the limb or appendage to the point where it cannot be saved. Sometimes after this, they're ok and everything 'feels' right to them... sometimes, they have body or gender dysmorphia- apotemnophilia. They will *never* feel 'right' in their bodies, continue to change, remove, etc, but never attain that state of perfection.
To find the line between self-destruction and art, we must ask those who perform these acts. A woman who brands does so safely and with an artistic vision in mind. A woman who cuts self destructively makes slashing movements hither and thither with a razor blade for the sensation and with the intent to destroy.
I think to understand these motivations, however foreign to us, is to have a unique insight into the relationship between the mind and the body. To know that one's 'self' is not necessarily always dictated by the outward appearance.
I would look into the USCOBM (http://www.uscobm.com/) for a better definition than I can convey...
I'm lucky... with the sum of mankinds' experiences at one's fingertips available the questioning mind-the internet- available to my young and porous mind during my formative years, I believe I was gifted with understanding of things I would never have otherwise come in contact with... and I think I'm a better person for it, and I love trying to explain things, as well...

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Well, thanks for the interesting reply Kit. I could get into some good discussion about each of these points, but I'm thinking this stuff is not exactly family bike forum material anymore, so I'll drop it.

Back to thermos/cup discussions, anyone? :rolleyes:

Hey, DH and I are busy ordering larger bike bags in anticipation of doing some multiday rides this season! Minus zero temps still, but we're thinking Spring!!!
DAMN but it's cold! :eek: I've been gazing at my little cactus dish gardens I made this weekend, trying to feel the imaginary sun...

[Offthegrid]

I'm gagging my mouth right now.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

I'm gagging my mouth right now.

Others are probably gagging as well... :D

[crazycanuck]

Kit..I would click on the links but i'm at work..:eek: eating lunch...

Lisa-I'll send you some desert like heat..it's 38C at the moment & the mercury just keeps on rising.

As I rode in this morning, i could feel the heat from the pavement & that was at 5am.

C

[Xrayted]

Hmmm, maybe I missed the big deal of it all. :o I spend all day with the women at my small town, closed minded community hospital. They talk about spending $180 on a haircut and color. They complain about their manicurist and how she didn't quite get the effect with the glitter like she used to. They are in their late 30's and still use the year they graduated HS in their email addresses. Actually, they identify each other by what year they graduated HS as well. They complain that they are getting fat while stuffing their pie holes with goodies and then doing nothing to work it back off. They all wear the same socks from Old Navy, the same shoes by Crocks, the same scrubs by UA... They read the same books as each other (only christian novels) and then look at me crossways when I read some Bronte or Dante's 'The Divine Comedy'. They won't ask what they are about, they just like to judge my books by their covers. It makes their lives easier to swallow and they are able to stay in their little world and not think about the outside too deeply. I am very much at odds with people who are like that.

I don't pretend to understand why some people do what they do to themselves. I don't expect them to fully understand me either. But I do always try to keep a very open mind and accept them as they are. I tend to be able to find something good in everyone so, I like almost everybody. I have no intention on changing anyone but myself while I'm here on this earth. Along the way though, I have found that we can't fully grow as a person if we shut out everything or everyone who may be slightly distasteful in our eyes. How does one judge what is good to them if they've never experienced anything but?

There are many things I see everyday that I wish I didn't. I've had things happen to me that I wish hadn't. And yet, they are a core part of how I have become who I am. I accept those experiences for what they have taught me. We all make our own choices and then have to live with them. They are not required to make sense to anyone but ourselves to be valid.


It is the wisest of men who understand that they know nothing. -Socrates.

[Xrayted]

Now smile dammit and lets move on, shall we? :D

[mimitabby]

X, it really is hard to understand why most of America is so stuck.

Makes me feel like chicken little. "The sky is falling the sky is falling!

and they say "Leave me alone, I'm busy watching my 60" tv"

[LBTC]

'Cuda ate through his bootie and licked the sutures so his foot bled again. We don't have bandages, so we put on an old sock and wrapped duct tape around his foot, and his ankle and his knee. He looks like he's trying to be a ballerina....on pointe when he stands on it, and then he keeps kicking his leg back to try to get that thing off his foot. :p As sad as that sounds, this is an improvement over the buddy collar, or whatever that huge cone is called. With that he just shakes his head around and paws at it trying desparately to remove it.

The thing about border collies is: put them in a new environment with an obstacle and they believe the objective we want them to achieve is to overcome the obstacle. And they usually do.

Can I learn something about life from this?

H&B
~T~

oh, yes, I'll stop at the vet tomorrow to get proper bandage materials, we'll redress it as best we can tomorrow night, let it breathe for awhile, and probably revisit a slightly less agressive duct tape strategy for the next day at work.

[Bikingmomof3]

'Cuda ate through his bootie and licked the sutures so his foot bled again. We don't have bandages, so we put on an old sock and wrapped duct tape around his foot, and his ankle and his knee. He looks like he's trying to be a ballerina....on pointe when he stands on it, and then he keeps kicking his leg back to try to get that thing off his foot. :p As sad as that sounds, this is an improvement over the buddy collar, or whatever that huge cone is called. With that he just shakes his head around and paws at it trying desparately to remove it.

H&B
~T~


((((((((((('Cuda & T)))))))))))))))

[KnottedYet]

Poor Cuda!

I remember putting t-shirts on my brother's dog so she couldn't lick at a wound on her ribs. Those big cone collar things are really a pain in the butt.

Do you have a picture of ballerina-dog? :D

[LBTC]

Do you have a picture of ballerina-dog? :D

LOL I'll have to try to get one tonight if he's still doing it! I was seriously not in the mood to pick up the camera after discovering the soaking rag that used to be a bootie. :mad: Maybe it would have been exactly the thing to lighten the mood. :rolleyes:

H&B
~T~

[Kitsune06]

you really should still use the elizabethan collar for 'cuda's own good...

[LBTC]

you really should still use the elizabethan collar for 'cuda's own good...

Kit, I would, but he thrashes around until it comes off. He'll hurt himself in the process, and it won't last 10 minutes on him.

I think he doesn't like the taste of duct tape, though, so, so far this morning he's good.

H&B
~T~

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

you really should still use the elizabethan collar for 'cuda's own good...

Wasn't it Nanci's daughter's parrot that had to wear one of those to keep from chewing his leg? ...and then someone else thought we were talking about Nanci's daughter's BF or something, wearing an Elizabethan collar, and we said it was the new fashion for young men- too funny! :rolleyes:

[Trek420]

Yeah, I'd have to check the TE TD TOC on that one but I think that was D.o W. with the fashion question.

Speaking of Nanci, anyone seen or heard her of late?

LBTC and Cuda, ((((( hugs ))))). Glad cuda does not like duct tape.

TE TD in general remember most of this country thinks we're them as in us vs. them.

You rode how far? :eek:
Have some KFC. Whadya mean you don't eat junk? :eek:
Whadya mean you didn't vote on American Idol :eek:
You're wearing wool? :eek: ;)

[chickwhorips]

LBTC one thing i used for peanut was bitter apple (http://www.bitterapple.com/). i would put it on top of her dressing and she would leave it alone. though you have to spray some in their mouth first, and then they realize (quickly) that it isn't good. peanut even sees the bottle and she's shaking her head and running. though she doesn't touch her dressing anymore when i have to put one on her.

[snapdragen]

My idiot dog actually seems to like bitter apple.....:rolleyes:

[KnottedYet]

Mine liked bitter apple, bitter lime, AND wasabi!!! Grrrrr.

[Trek420]

Does Bean like duct tape? ;)

[KnottedYet]

He eats plastic out of the garbage (a mistake we'll try not to do again!), so I'm guessing duct tape would be yummy with a delightful chewy texture! Doggie bubble gum!:D

[LBTC]

Apparently 'Cuda finds the taste of duct tape to be not altogether objectionable, but not nearly as delightful as fake leather bootie. We'll be doing the bandage in the next half hour. Wish us luck.

Oh, and after weeks of feeling awful on this new diet that's supposed to make me better, I have broken the diet. I am enjoying a glass of wine with my honey flavoured goats milk yogurt. I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired, so there it is. I wonder how I'll feel tomorrow.

And I wonder if the bandage covered with the extra protection of sock and duct tape will make it through the night.

The things that make me go hmmmmmm

H&B
~T~

[snapdragen]

Now that I'm home I can post e-collar pix. Chloe had one last year when she had corneal ulcers. HATED IT! Two collar stories.

She woke me up in the middle of the night, rubbing her eyes - big no-no. So on went the collar. I swear she sat on the bed and stared at me for hours after. You haven't lived until you've been glared at for hours by a corgi.

Another time she had it on after seeing the eye doctor. She had to go outside, it was raining. I figured she'd run out, pee, run back in. When she didn't appear at the door, I went looking for her. She was sitting in the middle of the lawn, head hanging down, rain running off the collar. She looked absolutely pitiful. I went out and removed the collar - she bounced across the yard, peed, then ran indoors.

[LBTC]

haha Snap! funny how they do that! :D

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

She looks like a martini.

[snapdragen]

She looks like a martini.

Well, what would you expect from my dog....:rolleyes: :D

[chickwhorips]

Well, what would you expect from my dog....:rolleyes: :D

nothing less.

by the way.....


Happy Birthday Snap!!!!!! :D

[Bad JuJu]

She looks like a martini.
And I thought chocolate martinis were strange. That was before I heard of the Corgi Martini. http://www.websmileys.com/sm/drink/trink32.gif http://www.websmileys.com/sm/drink/trink32.gif http://www.websmileys.com/sm/drink/trink32.gif

[Kitsune06]

mmm corgi martini.
probably lots like a dirty martini
+ hair. :D:D :D

Happy birthday, Snap!

[snapdragen]

Mmmmmmm. If you are anywhere near a Cheesecake Factory, go in and have a Chocolate Martini. They are *The Best*

I've had my share of corgi-hair-in-the-mouth moments. Not pleasant, I cannot recommend the corgi martini....:rolleyes:

Birthday started off sucky, but then I called into work and told 'em to p!ss off for the day. :D

[Bikingmomof3]

Birthday started off sucky, but then I called into work and told 'em to p!ss off for the day. :D

May your day improve. Good for you for calling in. :)

Have a Happy Birthday Snap!

[LBTC]

Happy Birthday, Snap! And what an excellent call to make on today of all days! Work can wait! :D

We loved your Chloe collar stories! I can totally see her!

'Cuda is no longer looking like a ballerina, but he is walking on his foot less. Part of me thinks this is a good thing. He's got a proper bandage on, covered by a sock which is fairly liberally (not as much as before) duct taped on. We'll replace the sock probably every evening and morning, and hope to replace the bandage every second day. He would so much rather be playing with the soccer ball right now!

heh, and so would I. I would have loved to skip work today, but fear the consequences of each missed day. Can you say huge pile of work that I can't see the bottom of? :D

Oh, and I feel better than yesterday. So is that from the sunshine, or from the 1/2 glass of wine last night?

H&B
~T~

[KnottedYet]

Happy B-D Snap!:p

[Bad JuJu]

Birthday started off sucky, but then I called into work and told 'em to p!ss off for the day. :D
Sounds like the only reasonable thing to do. Enjoy the remainder of YOUR DAY!

[kelownagirl]

I want a chocolate martini right now. I have white crema de cacao. Hmm....

[Offthegrid]

Now that I'm home I can post e-collar pix. Chloe had one last year when she had corneal ulcers. HATED IT!

You could try this fish bowl type contraption (http://www.softpaws.com/vetsandgroomers.html).

[mimitabby]

You could try this fish bowl type contraption (http://www.softpaws.com/vetsandgroomers.html).

oh my, isn't that something! bubble cat anyone?

[LBTC]

I guess it's better because it doesn't have any sharp edges! :confused: heh

Well, we were wrong, and I feel bad about it, since the solution was right in front of us. Not my preferred option, but it is so far appearing as if it would have worked.

Got home today and he had chewed through all layers. His foot does not look good. We'll have to bring him back to the vet in the morning. Diva is going in for her teeth cleaning, so they can keep each other company I guess.

Well, it finally dawned on us that maybe if we drug him up with the demerol he'll stop wanting to chew it. Sure enough - it only takes a few minutes for the drugs to kick in and he's very relaxed, laying on the floor, not interested in licking the darned foot anymore. Now why did we not try this sooner????

Dang!

Anyway, hopefully he hasn't done so much damage that he'll have to lose his toe. I guess we'll find out tomorrow. Now it's cuddle time.

Hugs and stoned butterflies,
~T~

[Xrayted]

Oh, man. Ya know, if you just go ahead and do that to your cat, the neighbors call the animal cops and have you drug away. But if you buy something that is sold to do the exact same thing, now it's called therapeutic. :confused:

I love the pic of your dog Snap. Makes me want to go mix up a martini right now. Oh, and I agree, chocolate martinis are one of my favorite drinks. (hint, hint Dar - um, hold the hair please :rolleyes:)

LBTC - I'm so sorry to hear Cuda is liking the duct tape too. Duct tape is still our friend... :D *points a finger* Shush Kit. I wasn't thinking that. :p

[Offthegrid]

Cool avatar, Xrayted (and Kit, too)

[Xrayted]

*X sneaks in* Bueller? Bueller?

oh, there he is... c'mon, ya know ya wanna twist and shout (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dw_rNExz7wg) :D :D

[KnottedYet]

Then there's the cute little story about the kids coming out of Ferris Beuller's Day Off going, "Hey, did you hear that song from that new band "The Beatles"?

snork.

Love those Urban Legends!

(oh, and the folks coming out of "Apollo 13" saying "why didn't they just send the space shuttle up for the astronauts?")

I used to have several books of those urban legend collections. Unfortunately I lost *custody* of them.... :mad:

[mimitabby]

Well, Knot, it's not the same thing, but you can just go to Snopes.com
and they have a lot of them.

category by category..

[kelownagirl]

I love this song. It's probably one of my favourites. I can't decide which version I like best.

This one by Postal Service:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0sEJQebtWA

or this one by Iron and Wine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP3shDm9***

EDIT: ok that last one's link has A$$ at the end. You'll have type it in manually. LOL...

I think I prefer the slower version, especially the harmonies.

I play it a little faster myself, somewhere between the two. Maybe I should put myself on Youtube someday. LOL...

[KnottedYet]

There is an utterly beautiful version of a Coldplay song by a group of instrumentalists called "Twelve Chinese Girls" that Trek and I found on a CD in a little music shop in Half Moon Bay.

Not only do I seem to have lost the CD (don't tell Trek!) but I can't seem to find a link of any sort anywhere. Bummer.

[Trek420]

Not only do I seem to have lost the CD (don't tell Trek!) but I can't seem to find a link of any sort anywhere. Bummer.

You what? :eek: :o

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/02/04/trends.12girlsband/

[kelownagirl]

Is it this band?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sErIRK-bVq0

[Xrayted]

Ok, that's just cool. :cool:

[KnottedYet]

yes!!! oh, it breaks my heart that I can't find that CD! The Coldplay song doesn't seem to be in YouTube.

The song is "Clocks" from the album "Eastern Energy" by 12 Girls Band. It's available on iTunes. I might just have to buy it if I can't find the CD. Honestly, I like the 12 Girls version better than Coldplay's original version.

[Pax]

Drift - Weird day. I've been saying for several years now that I need to find a new line of work, twelve years of wading hip deep in human misery is enough. I've worked with mentally ill homeless folks all that time and I'm FRIED.

Well today was my last day in social services as I've decided to follow a new path. I've been sitting here sobbing tonight feeling as though I'm letting my clients down, how dare I abandon them to the ravages of "the system". I'm grieving and raging and crying...I guess I don't know how to be this other person I aspire to, hopefully sleep and time will help. :(

[KnottedYet]

No-one can save everyone. And you've helped MANY over the last years. More than any of us could ever hope to reach.

If you are suffering, are you lessening the suffering of the world? (I stole that from the Dalai Lama)

Sleep. Give it the night to settle a little.

Be who you are and it will all work out. (Find "Wild Geese" by Mary Oliver. It's on TE twice.)

Sleep well.

[Wahine]

So I've been meaning to post this for awhile. This song always makes me think about my sisters. I actually prefer a version that Jane Siberry does with KD Lang. It's available on iTunes but not on youtube.

Here's a Six Feet Under reference that may explain why it makes me think about all the women out there that make up my family, my support:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUaXa--g900

and here's the full song done by Jane:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrd2XrOLdbQ

X's post earlier this week made we want to put this out there.

I just caught Queen's post. This goes out to you too.

[KnottedYet]

Is this the song that inspired Train's "Calling all Angels?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO_825km6uY

(umm, would I be crass to say I like Train's song a whole lot?)

[Wahine]

I really like that song too Knott. But it's not the same song. Maybe inspired by, who knows.

[KnottedYet]

Which came first? I don't know how to search that down. I'm thinking the Train was in 2003 or 2004.

I really like the line "I won't give up, if you don't give up." Snif. I'm such a sap...

And though I couldn't find an original Train music video, I like the video I did find. I've heard things aren't much improved in N.O. even now. "Travesty" comes to mind...

[Wahine]

I think the Jane Siberry song is much older. I want to say mid to late 90's. I'm going to track it down. It's very Lilith Fair.

[Xrayted]

Be who you are and it will all work out. (Find "Wild Geese" by Mary Oliver. It's on TE twice.)

Sleep well.


Queen, it is here (http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showpost.php?p=177325&postcount=2134). It helped me a lot. :D It's important to remember that our patients/clients aren't the only people we make an impact in during our day. There is the unknown schmoe who we walk past and give a little grin to. The guy next to us on the bus who is obvoiusly having a bad day. We give a little nod of 'I know how you feel buddy' and visibly see his shoulders relax a hair. The older woman who may need a hand under her elbow to keep her balance. Some like your clients, need more, something more tangible. But maybe had they had that initial eye contact, nod, a helpful touch, or a grin from people to begin with, things may not be so bad for them now. One never knows. I smile at everyone I pass at the hospital. I get to know everyone's name... from RN's and docs to housekeeping and the cafeteria. There are many total strangers out there that you can still impact in subtle but important ways. Caring is infectious and it can create miracles... good luck in your new career.

Take care Queen.

And remember to smile. :D

[Wahine]

Knott - The Jane Siberry and KD Lang version of Calling all Angels is available on an Anthology that was released in 2002. So I think it pre-dates the Train song. Though, crass or not, I really like train too.

[LBTC]

Queen, your depth of feeling is admirable, and I can't help thinking no wonder you feel fried! You do need the break! If it feels like you are letting others down, remember that if you are compromising yourself, you can't help them as effectively anymore. Your career change will do you a world of good, and, as others have said, you will help people in other ways.

Hugs and peaceful butterflies,
~T~

[kelownagirl]

Hugs to you Queen... :(

[KnottedYet]

Look what I found!

"Clocks" by Coldplay, performed by the 12 Girls Band!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXqSPJpuDBM

sigh. Now I can go to sleep.

(PS, the video is NOT them playing. Just listen to the music.)

[crazycanuck]

Queen :) (((((HUGS)))))) You may think you've not made a difference but YOU HAVE. No matter how insignificant you may feel right now, please let me tell you I admire the job you've done & obviously are a caring woman. We need more ladies like you in the world. Perhaps one day, one of those homeless folks may by some small chance get off the streets & if that small miracle happens, perhaps they may think of the lovely lady that truly gave a **** & tried to help change thier life.

(that doesn't mean we don't need more of x, kg, knot, bm, trek, kit & all the other lovelies that wander here)

Anywho..I did the Level 1 Tri technical officials course today :) Now I just have to remember the blocking & drafting rules..:eek: I have to do a small exam & then a practical at a tri on April 1st. If I don't want to enter a tri, the least i could do is try & help in some other form.

Take care

C

[Pax]

Thanks so much to all of you for the kind words of support, it really helps. Today I'm feeling a bit hollow and I think I need to go out for a short hike to help clear my head. I'm leaving for FL to visit my folks next Tuesday and am so looking forward to just sitting on the sand and staring at the ocean for a long while.

X and Knott - Wild Geese was wonderful, thanks.

[Trek420]

yes!!! oh, it breaks my heart that I can't find that CD! The Coldplay song doesn't seem to be in YouTube.

The song is "Clocks" from the album "Eastern Energy" by 12 Girls Band. It's available on iTunes. I might just have to buy it if I can't find the CD. Honestly, I like the 12 Girls version better than Coldplay's original version.

Remind me to check in the mess that is my car. We listened to it on the drive from Half Moon Bay but are you sure you took the CD out? I'm listening to Brad Paisley now

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OglKqv3tB7A

but it could be with the other CD's

[Bikingmomof3]

Today I'm feeling a bit hollow and I think I need to go out for a short hike to help clear my head. I'm leaving for FL to visit my folks next Tuesday and am so looking forward to just sitting on the sand and staring at the ocean for a long while.

((((((Queen))))))) I am a little late, but the sentiment is still there. The other posts did a fantastic job and I second and third them. You have made a difference and your next path will as well.

Enjoy the much needed and deserved break. :)


X and Knott - Wild Geese was wonderful, thanks.

It is wonderful. :)

[Bad JuJu]

Queen--I'm a little late on the uptake, too, but wanted to remind you of that story about the kid on the beach tossing beached starfish back into the water. There are virtually hundreds of them, and a guy comes along and says to the kid, "There are too many of them. You'll never be able to make a difference." The kid answers, as he tosses one more into the water, "It makes a difference to this one."

You made a difference to all those you DID help. But you can't toss starfish into the surf all your life--time to move on. Good luck with your next adventure!

[mimitabby]

Queen,
It sounds like you made a really tough decision. I think you were really courageous to do it in the first place!

May I ask what your new career is going to be?

Enjoy your hike, I hope it helps.

[Pax]

Queen,
It sounds like you made a really tough decision. I think you were really courageous to do it in the first place!

May I ask what your new career is going to be?

Enjoy your hike, I hope it helps.

Hi Mimi, I'm going to be working at the local university library. I'll start there in the next three weeks or so and until then I'm just trying to process my old career and get ready to move on.

Thanks again everyone.

[mimitabby]

wow, that's quite a shift, like 180 degrees!


and happy anniversary to me! My DH gave me an INCLINOMETER!!! (and I already put it on my bike). We've been married 29 years. I gave him a crank stand for his new bike - so he doesn't have to lean it up against furniture anymore.

[Xrayted]

Happy Anniversary
Mimitabby and Raleighdon!!! :cool: :D :cool: :D

[Bikingmomof3]

Happy Anniversary Mimi and Raleighdon!! Wishing you both many more to come. :)

[KnottedYet]

Happy Anniversary! Wow, 29 years!

[mimitabby]

thanks everyone for the kind wishes. The wonderful part of this, is that we have a very full marriage, you know, we're not just occupying the same space or living together because it's cheaper or more convenient.

We're so lucky!
:rolleyes: :D

[kelownagirl]

Congrats Mimi! You are lucky indeed. :)

[sbctwin]

Queen, remember we experience grief, even over decisions we make. You are right to make a change and go forward. The sadness over making the decision is all part of that grief cycle. Go luck on your new path. It is the right time. I am glad to hear you are taking some time off between the two paths:)

[LBTC]

CrazyCanuck - that's a great idea! Have a super time being an "official" :p

Mimitabby- Congratulations! 29 years! You two rock! And what great gifts to commemorate the occasion!

Queen - find peace over these 3 weeks....let your grief come, examine it, accept it, and let it go on buttefly wings over that beautiful ocean.

DH is working today. If I'm a nice little wifey I'll get the house cleaned while he's gone. We've got 2 doggies in recovery today - 'Cuda's foot is now being treated as an "open" wound. Soak twice a day in epson salts, apply a salve twice a day, keep the collar on. Crazy how tight it has to be, but it is staying on there.

Diva had to have a tooth removed. :( Antibiotics twice a day and soft food for a few days.

I can keep this straight, really I can!

Tonight we'll watch Borat together. Ah, I'm looking forward to the comic relief!

Hugs and butterflies,
~T~

[chickwhorips]

mimi congrats!

queen hugs

LTBC how's the pup doing?

[LBTC]

Diva hasn't eaten yet. She's a fuss@$$ like her mom, but I think I'm going to have to tempt her with something special (and soft) pretty soon. 'Cuda is mostly pouting. But we spent a bit of time outdoors and even gently played with the soccer ball. He actually used the cone to pass the ball - which I've been trying to teach him anyway. It was nice, but we don't want to overdo it...poor open wounded foot! (I feel like we are terrible fur-parents :( )
Thanks for asking!

H&B
~T~

[chickwhorips]

your not terrible fur parents! your doing a great job.

[LBTC]

There is another use for the dreaded buddy collar....when pup gets sick, the collar catches it so it doesn't hit the carpet. :o Made cleanup so much easier....good for us, but poor 'Cuda.

DH came home to a clean house. I didn't do my course work. There's good and bad in everything, right? heehee

Hugs & Butterflies,
~T~

[Xrayted]

Every now and again, I just go searching on the web for funny stuff. Here's some signs that just crack me up.

[Bad JuJu]

Happy (late) 29th Anniversary, Mimi and Mr. Mi!

Are you already plotting anything special for your big 30th next year? Hmmm?

[snapdragen]

AAAArrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhh!

I hate my job.

Thank you.

[Kitsune06]

*cowers*

[chickwhorips]

it's ok snap! deep breath. it will be over soon. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i295/fairie1323/consoling2.gif

[Xrayted]

Geez, and here I thought I was needing a hug...

((((SNAP)))) :D :D :D

[Kitsune06]

X- Here's a sign for ya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bong_State_Recreation_Area) (and the info behind it). I actually passed this park on the way out of WI but (D'oh!) didn't get a pic.

Aww, Snap!

*hugs*

[chickwhorips]

nice kit.

only in wisconsin......

[Kitsune06]

Silly cheeseheads! :rolleyes: When will they ever learn?! ;) :D

[chickwhorips]

never. maybe they should switch to a different cheese than swiss.







get it? :rolleyes:

[Kitsune06]

I'm going to assume there's a pic there or something that I'm not getting. The Man blocks a lot of my pics here...

IF NO PIC EXISTS- then I'll go to my other comeback-
Swiss cheeseheads? Better than head cheese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_cheese)!
Don't worry... I'll be gouda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gouda_%28cheese%29). I'd hate make anyone feel bleu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleu_cheese). I have puns in Abondance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abondance_%28cheese%29). Gimme a shot and I'll Leyden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyden_cheese) down. Oka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oka_cheese)? :D ;) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

X- any quick ones? Go ahead, Havarti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havarti). ;) :rolleyes::D

Oh please don't hurt me for the cheesy lines! You've created a Muenster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munster_%28cheese%29)! Teleme (http://www.epicurious.com/cooking/how_to/food_dictionary/entry?id=4906) if I'm going too far...:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D :D :D


I will Provel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provel_cheese) for mercy... :p I'm gonna be in the Brick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick_cheese) sh*thouse now... :p :o

[chickwhorips]

oh great. what did i do?

[Xrayted]

Gee, thanks CWR! No more encouraging her, ok??? :p

[LBTC]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Snap}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Is it any better yet? I mean, with all this talk of cheese, you must be feeling happier?

H&B
~T~

[mimitabby]

Happy (late) 29th Anniversary, Mimi and Mr. Mi!

Are you already plotting anything special for your big 30th next year? Hmmm?

no, we're not, but .. hmmm. I'll have to ask the Mr and see what He's thinking.

For him the next big one is 50 years.

[chickwhorips]

Gee, thanks CWR! No more encouraging her, ok??? :p

sorry about that.

[crazycanuck]

:eek: Err...

Let's not encourage the girls...They're going on a cross country road trip..who knows what excitement they'll cause...I do want to hear about it but i'm not encouraging you..

SNAP (((((((((HUG :) )))))))))))))))) Need to come & visit me for a vacation?

C

[mimitabby]

i don't want them causing any ruckus either.. think AAA, obeying the speed limit, paying for parking, checking the oil, and keeping windshields clean.
Every 4 hours, stop at a park and run around a bit and then continue...
boring, safe, boring, safe.

[snapdragen]

I'm hoping lack of vacation is the main problem. It's been almost 2 years since I've had any length of time off; even then I was getting phone calls and emails at home. I really hate this - I can't plan anything because I have no one to cover for me. Frustration is very high - contempt for management is equally high. My work is affected, but I really don't care.

//end whine

[chickwhorips]

snap you need a vacation. i hear anchorage is a great place to visit in 3 weeks. :cool:

[snapdragen]

I would if I could cwr - I love Anchorage!

[crazycanuck]

why go somewhere cold when you can enjoy a nice quiet beach in Western Australia....:) You & the other TD ladies are welcome down dis a way :)

We don''t bite but the Australian animals do...

C

[Xrayted]

*Ahem*

Uh, what kind of trouble do you expect me to be getting into here? Mimi and CC - Yes, I happen to be a member of AAA for many, many years... I'm also having the Jeep serviced before I go, I have all my maps and plans laid out, I have all of the hotel reservations that are practical to have right now all taken care of, I am making time to say good bye to everyone I care about (and trying to not break down and cry every time), I've arranged to move my shift around at work on some of the last days so I can pack my truck for the journey and still keep going to work, and I'm managing to do this all by myself and still keep a sliver of sanity. I do have to admit though that I am still packing. Taking time to do all of the above things has gotten me behind considerably so I'm up late at night and up early in the morning to get it all done. I've survived on 4-5 hours of sleep for years as a student, so I guess I can do it now for something this important.

But, yes, absolutely YES, I am gonna let loose and have fun on my journey because I feel I earned it, baby. :D It took me a long time to get here in my life and I'm going to enjoy every moment of my roadtrip and my new life to the "fullest extent of the law". (yes, Kit, no further than that ;)) But if we do get crazy, we'll take pics, ok? :D :D

Y'all have a wonderful day and be safe.

[chickwhorips]

Uh, what kind of trouble do you expect me to be getting into here?

its not you its you and kit together. ;)


kit remember this part
"fullest extent of the law". you may need it for later.
can't wait to see pictures. no i don't need all the pictures.

[Xrayted]

its not you its you and kit together. ;)

Point well taken. *digs around for fake i.d. and alternate tags for the Jeep* Yup, I'm covered... :eek:

[kelownagirl]

So when are you two hitting the road? How long will you be travelling? Do you have a laptop or do you plan to stop in to internet cafes to give us updates? And when is the Cinderella? And finally, X - are you officially moving now? If so, how are you moving all your stuff - ie furniture etc? Is that coming along for the ride as well?

I need to know this stuff. :)

[chickwhorips]

*digs around for fake i.d. and alternate tags for the Jeep*

i'll get the bail money ready. :rolleyes:

[Kitsune06]

But, yes, absolutely YES, I am gonna let loose and have fun on my journey because I feel I earned it, baby. :D It took me a long time to get here in my life and I'm going to enjoy every moment of my roadtrip and my new life to the "fullest extent of the law". (yes, Kit, no further than that ;)) But if we do get crazy, we'll take pics, ok? :D :D

Y'all have a wonderful day and be safe.

B...b...buh...b... but you said we'd <mumble, mumble> and <mumble, murmble>!!!
*huff*
Oh, and...
If we do get crazy, *no* pictures- c'mon, you know better than to incriminate yourself that way!!! (welllll at least not pics that'll go up here...;) ) :eek:
If you do it right, the law allows quite a bit...
just bear in mind all the little weird things-
a group of 4 or more in Eugene who are not wearing socks may be dispersed by the police as an "orgy". It's illegal to own certain things in certain states except as a 'novelty' like a... uh... cake topper or something...:confused:
In California it's illegal to peel onions in hotel rooms, and No unoccupied vehicle may exceed 60 miles per hour.
In Texas, it's *specifically* illegal to graffiti someone else's cow.

We could have some really interesting adventures outside the confines of the law without really doing anything bad...

..y'know...
if the urge struck... :rolleyes: :D :p

[Xrayted]

Hey, KG - since you need to know... :rolleyes: my last day at work is the 22nd. Leaving here on the 23rd, stopping by my Mom's for one more cry-fest and then off towards Cleveland, OH. Picking Kit up that night at the Cleveland Airport and seeing the city the next day for a bit. Then heading straight across to WI to see her folks and friends and Dar. We should be pulling into CA on Friday, 30th. Maybe sooner depending on how the weather and roads are. We can't visit certain places along the way if they aren't accessible. :( It seems we've been invited to stay with some people in Cheyenne, WY along the way and I definitely want to spend some time in Reno, NV.
Yes, I will be bringing my laptop along on the trip so we will be online in the evenings from our hotel rooms if we aren't otherwise occupied or just plain dead. During the day, we will be in contact with people by cell phone. If anyone wants to be able talk to us along the way, PM me or Kit and we'll exchange info.
As for the moving, I have gotten a semi truck to haul my stuff. I'm not taking that much along so I will be using just a portion of the trailer. They put up a bulkhead behind my stuff and let someone else use the rest of it. So, we all share the expense. It should be in OR one day after me. I just get to pack some essentials like clothes, bikes and my companion in the Jeep and go. :cool: No driving a huge truck across the country and it's so much cheaper this way.

CWR - I have extra $$ set back just in case ;)

Kit - I didn't say we'd *mumble, mumble*. I said we'd talk about it later if and when the opportunity arose. Oh, and thanks for the heads up on the cow graffiti thing. I guess I'll just pack my cans of paint in the truck instead. (are sharpies ok tho? i like to connect the dots. :p) *considers taking off socks right here and now to see what happens... cuz I live on the edge baby! :D *

[chickwhorips]

No unoccupied vehicle may exceed 60 miles per hour.


i do wonder where that came from.

[KnottedYet]

Towing laws.

Can't tow an unoccupied vehicle with another vehicle, because the in-tow won't have braking or steering and at higher speeds that could be a very bad problem.

Most folks call a tow truck these days, so that law is probably getting out of date. (us old folks remember the days of towing a friend's car with a rope. Man, talk about dangerous for everyone in the vicinity!)

Edit to add that tow bars (the kind pulling cars behind RV's) are a different kettle of fish as they control the in-tow.

[Kitsune06]

X- Oh... gosh... for me, talking about it is as good as consent. Hmm. 'kay. Well... connect-the-spots seems interesting enough... I know, I was let down, too. Can you imagine the exciting ways you could airbrush a cow??!!

The sockless thing was news to me- I go with bare toes all the time in the summer...
'cuz that's how I roll. :cool:

[chickwhorips]

Towing laws.

Can't tow an unoccupied vehicle with another vehicle, because the in-tow won't have braking or steering and at higher speeds that could be a very bad problem.

Most folks call a tow truck these days, so that law is probably getting out of date. (us old folks remember the days of towing a friend's car with a rope. Man, talk about dangerous for everyone in the vicinity!)


i think its in phoenix, where if your doing this you can be pulled over and ticketed. the person in the vehicle being towed can be ticketed for tail gaiting and the tower gets a ticket also, but i don't remember what exactly its for. i think endangerment or illegal towing or something of the like.

[Xrayted]

and then there are the 97y.o. way-past-safe-elderly-folks who keep on driving. In many cases, I think we'd all be safer if we let the cat drive instead.

[chickwhorips]

3 words for you: Snowbirds in Phoenix

[mimitabby]

YOu mean like the ancient small person steering a cadillac down the florida freeway that passed my DH going more than 80 peering over his steering wheel with oxygen tubes up his nostrils?

[Xrayted]

YOu mean like the ancient small person steering a cadillac down the florida freeway that passed my DH going more than 80 peering over his steering wheel with oxygen tubes up his nostrils?

Yup. Probably down there from Lancaster County, PA for the winter... :D

[Kitsune06]

This is just a hair beside the point, but I always loved how my grandma complained great uncle would drive his station wagon like he drove his team back in the day. "He slows down WAAAAY before the stops! It takes him forever to get going! I'm surprised he doesn't try to FEED it!!!"
He ran with it, too... clicked his tongue when hitting the gas when he knew my sis and I would catch it... :) Great old folks. Made me painfully nostalgic at that age, for the Fremont my parents grew up in, with the clamshell button factory on the Wolf River (which is now the Bridge Bar) ... old Hwy 10 made by the local crews, horse teams and kids (Uncle Alvin was one of those on the crews)... nights of beer and the hand-made instrument band by the old Hotel (which is still standing) with all the 1st gen german folks sharing their oldworld music and homemade pilsners, banjos and washtub bass... dusty roads and whippoorwills in the trees lining the fields... *murmurs on*
*drifts off into the '30s for awhile...*

Don't worry, everyone, I'll make sure we behave. No promises on *how* we'll behave, but we'll certainly behave in a manner best fitting us. ;) I have nothing against women behaving badly. :D

[chickwhorips]

we had this really cool girl come out a couple weeks ago and try to do some banding. it didn't work (well they got 3 birds) and went back to anchorage. i got to talking to one of them, sarah, and she's all about running and biking. so i told her that if i got the job in anchorage we would have to get together.

i just happen to email her today about moving into town to see if she would still be interested in training together. she said she just hunted down my email as i emailed her because she was just looking up race schedules (running/biking/tris) and wanted to see when i was going to be healed and if i heard anything on the job. well i now have a training buddy, though not sure how badly she's going to kick my @ss. hopefully not to bad. i told her hopefully i'll be running "normally" by june. i'm even more excited and terrified now to move!

[Bikingmomof3]

we had this really cool girl come out a couple weeks ago and try to do some banding. it didn't work (well they got 3 birds) and went back to anchorage. i got to talking to one of them, sarah, and she's all about running and biking. so i told her that if i got the job in anchorage we would have to get together.

i just happen to email her today about moving into town to see if she would still be interested in training together. she said she just hunted down my email as i emailed her because she was just looking up race schedules (running/biking/tris) and wanted to see when i was going to be healed and if i heard anything on the job. well i now have a training buddy, though not sure how badly she's going to kick my @ss. hopefully not to bad. i told her hopefully i'll be running "normally" by june. i'm even more excited and terrified now to move!

CWR- Fantastic news!! :) Making running/biking buddy in Anchorage even before arriving, way to go. :cool: How are your moving plans coming along?

[chickwhorips]

they are coming. haven't packed anything more since what i already mailed out. probably should work on that, though i really don't have that much, i don't think. did get my ticket out though, and made arrangements for peanut flight also. we fly out on the noon flight on march 30th.

[Offthegrid]

BTW, X, you would have laughed so hard if you saw the package job my BF did with his stuff. He only bought one roll of packing tape, so 75 percent of the boxes were not sealed, so you had to hold them on the bottom so they didn't open and they were overflowing at the top. Then he ran out of boxes so he did the old throw-it-in-a-garbage-bag thing then ask yourself 20 times which bags are trash and which are stuff.

Not that I'm making fun of him at all. I wouldn't do something like that.

[chickwhorips]

OTG that's funny. no wonder you got such a good work out. you had to be coordinated also to carry those boxes up and down steps!

[Duck on Wheels]

Not all dogs dare to do this ...

http://www.dagbladet.no/dinside/2007/03/13/494916.html

[Xrayted]

Oh OTG, packing tape is my friend. ;) So are free newspapers and boxes. I'm being very careful how I pack my stuff because it's not going to be in my hands the whole time. Who knows if this guy is going to hit every pothole from here to OR just because he can. Each wine glass, each candleholder... everything wrapped separately and padded well. Now, I just have to figure out how to box a band saw, a scroll saw, my sanders and other misc woodworking tools. Then there's gram's rocking chair that I haven't refinished the whole way yet and the canoe coffeetable with the oars endtable... Arrrrgh! The computer desk is getting dismantled tonight I hope. I'll transfer everything to the shelves on the walls for the next week or so since they are clear of books and such.

Oops, gotta go. OR is calling...
see ya this weekend!

~C.

[Bikingmomof3]

they are coming. haven't packed anything more since what i already mailed out. probably should work on that, though i really don't have that much, i don't think. did get my ticket out though, and made arrangements for peanut flight also. we fly out on the noon flight on march 30th.

Yippee!!! :) Peanut will love the new home. :D

[chickwhorips]

Not all dogs dare to do this ...

http://www.dagbladet.no/dinside/2007/03/13/494916.html

ahhh thats funny!

i've been wondering what Peanut will do with two cats around. she tends to use smaller animals as pillows.

[Kitsune06]

I dunno that Peanut would mesh well with Ito'san, then....:rolleyes: :p :p

[chickwhorips]

i take it Ito'san likes to be on top? :eek:

[Kitsune06]

:eek: *gasp!* :eek:

Given Peanut's size, I would probably think that'd be for the best, whatever Ito'san's preference. :rolleyes:
Physics says kitty would be on the bottom...

But what do I know-
I prefer the "upper hand" anyway :p

[Kitsune06]

CWR, what have you been told about provocation?!

[chickwhorips]

i don't know nutin about anyting. http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif

[Kitsune06]

How convenient... :cool:
;) :p
Ooooh.... say <whisper, whisper, whisper> so I can go off on a tangent about <mumble, mumble>.... ;)

:) *innocent, fuzzy-bunny, rainbows-and-pink-hearts smile* :)

[chickwhorips]

gasp! i never knew that! i had a feeling though, now it explains so much..... ;)

[Kitsune06]

Really? you had a feeling? Hmm. And I thought I was being all cool about it. MY big question, though, is- What do you do if you lose the whiffle ball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiffleball) and/or rubber bands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_Band#Uses) in the process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process)??!! I like to think I'm inventive, but that's just weird (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyrd) :eek: :p

*snort!*

[chickwhorips]

you know, i'm still wondering the same thing.

[Kitsune06]

Maybe it's one of those things- it doesn't matter if you lost the eq... what matters is that you had it at all?

how... deep.

I finally found a song that feels like my theme song for right now... www.myspace.com/symphonyofme- click on "The Afterlife" Hope you have good speakers or headphones tho... the bass is very deep in some places... best played at mid-volume- loud enough to hear all the 'flavors' but soft enough to still get the subtlety.

The DJ is actually a friend of mine... Great guy. One of the million geminis in the world that has the II on the back of his neck (fair, though, because pple should always warn others that they're Geminis...) and incredibly talented... mmmm good song.

[chickwhorips]

very nice. i like it.

[Xrayted]

Me too. :)

[Duck on Wheels]

This story (http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2007/03/14/494986.html in Norwegian and too long to translate, but you can see the pictures) is about Taylor (left), the Aussie shepherd, who woke up his Mom (right) and wouldn't let her go back to bed until she'd checked the front door. There she found a confused elderly lady who'd been walking for miles, in her stocking feet, with an ambulator. It was well below freezing outside and the woman was thin clad with bleeding feet, so she'd have died by morning if Taylor hadn't woken up his Mom for the rescue.

[mimitabby]

Thanks for that story! I have a friend that has aussies and border collies (okay, one of each) and she will really enjoy it.

[Bikingmomof3]

DoW-Thank you for the inspirational story. :)

[Trek420]

Jen,

the one about the dog? That was from D.on Wheels. I'm looking pages back for inspiring story from Deb, maybe I missed that.

I've got lots of catching up to do on TD. Where's the TOC?

This time change has me beat and confused. Woke at 3 am could not get to sleep so looked at smartwool. Then back for a nap and :eek: woke at 8am.

Good thing I'm off work today (I think :eek: :confused: :) :cool: )

It's just one hour, why'm I so tired?

[Bikingmomof3]

Jen,

the one about the dog? That was from D.on Wheels. I'm looking pages back for inspiring story from Deb, maybe I missed that.

Yep, I did indeed mean Duck on Wheels (DoW) :D


Good thing I'm off work today (I think :eek: :confused: :) :cool: )

It's just one hour, why'm I so tired?

Take it easy today and enjoy a nice nap. I am a big fan of afternoon naps. :)

[Trek420]

Yep, I did indeed mean Duck on Wheels (DoW) :D

Take it easy today and enjoy a nice nap. I am a big fan of afternoon naps. :)

Oh yeah, look at me, I can't even read my sisters name ;) :D off to walk the dog, then take a nap. Where is the jersey that says "is it nap time yet?"

[Bikingmomof3]

Oh yeah, look at me, I can't even read my sisters name ;)

With all my typos I had to triple check to make certain I did indeed put type the correct letters. ;)


Where is the jersey that says "is it nap time yet?"

If there is a jersey with that on it, I definitely need to buy one. :p

[snapdragen]

I have today off too. No one but my manager knows it - well, I guess they will figure it out when they don't get any reports from me today. :rolleyes:

I'm going to the doctor this morning for my regular check up. I finally get brave and call the new doc I picked from my HMO/PPO -- damn if she isn't out on maternity leave! So I'm seeing her substitute.

Later I'm going to see my friend BobS for a massage - super deep tissue. I've got knots in my shoulders and back that I should name, they've been there so long.:eek:

Most important - my Sidi shoes have arrived at REI! I'll pick them up after the doc appointment.

[snapdragen]

And might I add, that although I realize I am very lucky I do not get the "turn bright red, sweat a river" hot flashes, these little "glows" are getting irritating.

Is stress a factor in their frequency?

[Trek420]

If there is a jersey with that on it, I definitely need to buy one. :p

closest I could find is this in a t-shirt on cafe press:

http://www.cafepress.com/bikinggifts/

[mimitabby]

And might I add, that although I realize I am very lucky I do not get the "turn bright red, sweat a river" hot flashes, these little "glows" are getting irritating.

Is stress a factor in their frequency?
yes, i think so, because sometimes when i am stressed, i get one!

[snapdragen]

yes, i think so, because sometimes when i am stressed, i get one!

One!!??!!

:D :D :D

[snapdragen]

I'm wondering if I made a mistake changing doctors. My "physical" consisted of him asking questions while looking at my paperwork, then giving me a referral for some blood work. ooooookaaaay... There was a nurse that weighed me, took my temperature and blood pressure. Hell, I never even got to put on the lovely paper gown. For this I shaved my legs? Glad he was just substituting for my real PCP - he told me to come back in 6 months to see her.

My massage was lovely, even if it was a bit painful. Knots have been vanquished, all is well with the world.

[chickwhorips]

so happy to hear snap!

[Bikingmomof3]

I'm wondering if I made a mistake changing doctors. My "physical" consisted of him asking questions while looking at my paperwork, then giving me a referral for some blood work. ooooookaaaay... There was a nurse that weighed me, took my temperature and blood pressure. Hell, I never even got to put on the lovely paper gown. For this I shaved my legs? Glad he was just substituting for my real PCP - he told me to come back in 6 months to see her.

You only get the paper gown when you are not ready for it. :p Just Kidding. I am glad he was just substituting. My nurse never takes my temp-a test a could pass. ;) Oh I hate th edredded scale. No matter what I go in for I am weighed before I allowed into the room.


My massage was lovely, even if it was a bit painful. Knots have been vanquished, all is well with the world.

Yippee!! :D Good thing you did not name the now gone knots. :)
I would give almost anything for a god massage about now. Enjoy a knot free back. :cool:

[LBTC]

Snap, I'm glad your knots have left you feeling a bit better!

DoW, my computer is not set up right, so I couldn't watch the video, but loved the story. Dogs are amazing.

BMo3, so far they've never weighed me. Maybe I'm not sick enough. :eek:

I saw my specialist today and am trying entocort, the mildest of the steroid drugs for Crohn's. The scope did not find anything, but the other test indicated that the problem is in an area beyond the reach of the scope.

I had two good energy days this week, and today was pretty low. I will try to lift weights, slowly and not very much again tonight to see if I can work through this fatigue. I also note that the times that I have enjoyed a half glass of wine, which is forbidden on the diet, the following day is a good day. Wine, anyone?

Hugs and butterflies to you all,
~T~

[KnottedYet]

If it works, go for it!

Several studies have said a glass of wine a day is good for your heart and helps prevent problems from over-active inflammation responses.

Too bad beer doesn't get the go-ahead...

[Bikingmomof3]

BMo3, so far they've never weighed me. Maybe I'm not sick enough. :eek:

Not being ill enough would be a good thing. :)


I saw my specialist today and am trying entocort, the mildest of the steroid drugs for Crohn's. The scope did not find anything, but the other test indicated that the problem is in an area beyond the reach of the scope.

I hope it works for you. :)


I had two good energy days this week, and today was pretty low. I will try to lift weights, slowly and not very much again tonight to see if I can work through this fatigue. I also note that the times that I have enjoyed a half glass of wine, which is forbidden on the diet, the following day is a good day.

2 out of 7 is progress, yes? I do hope your good days continue to improve. I am not a doctor, yet I say go with what works for your body. Just be certain the alcohol does not interact with the medicine.

I am wishing you increased good days. :)

[LBTC]

Thanks for the votes of confidence Knot and BMo3! Alcohol was one of the foods I tested as sensitive to, according to the naturopathic testing, so I am supposed to avoid it as carefully as wheat, corn, dairy and sugar (and all those other things).

But, screw it. I'm about to pour that glass as soon as I get the potatoes mashed!

Hugs & Butterflies,
~T~

[KnottedYet]

Tonight's gluten-free dinner:
mushrooms sauteed in olive oil, garlic, wheat-free soy sauce, sesame oil;
with brown rice and broccoli

[LBTC]

yum!

We had steak with home made bbq sauce sugar-free, tomato-free, etc; sauteed mushrooms and colourful peppers in olive oil, balsamic vinegar, basil, coriander, cumin, garlic; mashed potatoes. And, of course, 1/2 glass of wine. :p

H&B
~T~

[Wahine]

Tonight's gluten-free dinner:
mushrooms sauteed in olive oil, garlic, wheat-free soy sauce, sesame oil;
with brown rice and broccoli

Cr@p!! I never thought about there being wheat in soy sauce. I'm off to the fridge to read some ingredients.

It's so hard to avoid all wheat products.

Edit: Just came back from the fridge, wheat is the second bloody ingredient in the d@mn soy sauce from the health foods section of my store.

[KnottedYet]

Western Family soy sauce, $1.49 for a big ol' bottle, NO WHEAT!!! whoo-hoo! I'm thinkin' your Roseaur's probably has Western Family?

Sometimes the wheat-free versions of things are cheaper than the 'regular' stuff.

[Wahine]

Western Family soy sauce, $1.49 for a big ol' bottle, NO WHEAT!!! whoo-hoo! I'm thinkin' your Roseaur's probably has Western Family?

Sometimes the wheat-free versions of things are cheaper than the 'regular' stuff.

Thanks Knott. Rosie's definitely carries Western Family. I love stirfry so this is a priority.

[LBTC]

Yup, that one shocked me too! San-J makes a wheat free as well, but I bet Western Family is cheaper! :eek:

Hugs & Butterflies,
~T~

[snapdragen]

The places where the knots were residing are now starting to feel a little sore - kind of bruised. Must go hunt down my Advil.

[Wahine]

Snap - you need to drink lots of water. Flush it out.

[snapdragen]

Snap - you need to drink lots of water. Flush it out.

I'm doing that too....floating away as I type. :p

[Duck on Wheels]

I saw my specialist today and am trying entocort, the mildest of the steroid drugs for Crohn's. The scope did not find anything, but the other test indicated that the problem is in an area beyond the reach of the scope.

That seems a bit odd. Supposedly entocort only works in the "end zone" so to speak, hence the name. Supposedly it is not systemic (i.e. does not get taken up in the blood stream and thereby have effects throughout the body). So if it only works locally towards the end of the intestinal tract, then that would be an area within scope reach, right? Then again, entocort actually does get taken up systemically, in spite of what they say. That's why I got those days of suddenly feeling knocked-out-exhausted as I was taken off entocort step by step from 3 to 2 to 1 to 1/2 to no pills a day, several weeks per step. So I guess if it's systemic after all, it can work anywhere in the system ...?


I had two good energy days this week, and today was pretty low. I will try to lift weights, slowly and not very much again tonight to see if I can work through this fatigue. I also note that the times that I have enjoyed a half glass of wine, which is forbidden on the diet, the following day is a good day. Wine, anyone?

What I used to find with wine is that, due to the vasodilation effect (alcohol makes your blood vessels widen), internal bleeding so slight that I wasn't aware of it would suddenly become a flood of rectal bleeding after I'd had a glass of wine. Like that one night in a hotel in Stockholm when I woke up in a pool of blood in their once-clean white sheets. I did my best to rinse them out in the bath, and left a generous tip when I checked out, but I still don't dare book a room at THAT hotel again. Still, the dinner was delicious, including the wine. It was shortly after that trip that I worked out what was happening -- not an allergy to wine, but simply a widening of the arteries. Now that I have an ileostomy, and also now that the inflammation is pretty much under control, I can again drink a glass of wine now and then without any obvious ill effects. But since my recent blood test results indicate that I do have some internal bleeding going on, I haven't been indulging much lately. Gotta get my hemoglobin levels up first.

Aaaaanyhooo -- I'm very glad to hear that you're one of us bloomingly healthy Crohnies, rather than a typical pale and skinny one (like I was for a time, but not now). The cramps can still be, literally, a pain. But let's hope the doc is right that your Crohns is slight, limited, whatever. And let's hope (s)he gets even that under control. As you say:
Hugs and butterflies :)

[mimitabby]

Gee, Duck,
I'm glad i didn't send you cookies that you couldn't eat!
m

[Kitsune06]

Oh, cookies?
Here, Mimi... my address is... *hands Mimi the "OMG Cookies!" card*
Anytime. :cool: ;)

[Xrayted]

*X's head snaps in a full circle up in the OR* Did I hear cookies??? Mmmm, I'll take some off yer hands Mimi. As a matter of fact, I love to bake so how's about a cookie exchange sometime after I get out there? I'm not gonna guarantee that mine will be healthy or low fat... but they will be dang good. :D

[mimitabby]

my cookies are healthy in that they are made of wholesome ingredients
and can be a good part of a healthy diet.
Eggs, butter, etc... (wheat flour, sorry guys)

[Kitsune06]

*X's head snaps in a full circle up in the OR*

I love how she can do that. Goin' along, normal convo, talkin' right over me, and I've gotta say a word or two... 'cookies' comes to mind... and *bam!* all the attention in the world. :D
I am *dreamin'* of warm, soft tollhouse-style cookies atm...
or those devilish thinmints. *salivates*
mmmmmmm

Mimi- I suspect you will have visitors again sometime :D

[mimitabby]

uh, i don' t MAKE tollhouse cookies. wrong house. I make biscotti.

[Kitsune06]

*droooooooooooooooooooollllls* mmmmm biscotti and coffee sounds even better on a day like today. :D :D :D

[mimitabby]

you'd have to compete with my son over those... I guess I have to make some more soon.

[KnottedYet]

I'm eating my lunch with a titanium spork!

I feel so worldly....:D

[mimitabby]

gee, Knot, steel is real. you know?
I didn't imagine YOU of all people would go to the TI side.

:p

[KnottedYet]

Oh, no, I love ti!

[Kitsune06]

Oh, we'd hate to have a heavy spork... ;)

C'mon Mimi- Ti is the way to go for everything--- except bike frames... y'know... where it counts.

[Xrayted]

Ok, Mimi, no dissin' the tollhouse chocolate chip cookies dear. They happen to be my all-time favorite cookie in the world. I've been known to clean people's houses, fix their cars, babysit their kids, wash their dog... for some good TH cookies. Mmmmmmmmmmmm. I can almost smell them now, fresh out of the oven, steamin. Give them about 3 minutes to stiffen/cool ever so slightly and then BAM, into the milk they go. Oooooooohhhhh!!!! *where's the salivating like a bulldog smilie when you need it?* :p

[Kitsune06]

Note: I've already realized it was important that I know this... :D

With my smart mouth and general klutziness, I need to remember...
"Nothing says 'sorry!!!' like TH" :rolleyes: ;)

...not that I ever intend to *intentionally* get in trouble...
but every now and again. :D

[mimitabby]

Ok, Mimi, no dissin' the tollhouse chocolate chip cookies dear. They happen to be my all-time favorite cookie in the world. I've been known to clean people's houses, fix their cars, babysit their kids, wash their dog... for some good TH cookies. Mmmmmmmmmmmm. I can almost smell them now, fresh out of the oven, steamin. Give them about 3 minutes to stiffen/cool ever so slightly and then BAM, into the milk they go. Oooooooohhhhh!!!! *where's the salivating like a bulldog smilie when you need it?* :p

I wasn't dissing anything! I even LIKE that recipe. (They're chocolate, after all!) I just don't make it.

Since my grandmother died, I knew that if I didn't make her recipes, they would die too. No one else in the family bothers. So.. when I have to make cookies, I make one of her recipes.

[Duck on Wheels]

Ahhhh, biscotti! In our family they're grampa's recipe, only he (my dad) died a few years ago, so now the rest of us have to keep the recipe alive. And as far as I know, there are no cookies that affect my Crohns. :) :p

[Xrayted]

Ok, you're off the hook Mimi. But I'm gonna keep my eye on you for a while, just the same. ;) :D

[Xrayted]

Note: I've already realized it was important that I know this... :D

Yes, it is. :p

[Kitsune06]

:D :rolleyes:

[crazycanuck]

:) :D :) :D

NEver trust a smiling crazy canuck :eek: :) :D

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

c

[chickwhorips]

cc i will forever remember that piece of advice. ;)

[LBTC]

So, cc, what exactly are you smiling about?? :D

DoW - I really am grateful that we've found this early, or that I don't have it that bad, or whatever! I'm so sorry you've had such experiences!!! :eek: I'm trying not to whine too much about my very minor symptoms....I just sometimes feel so much like I'm just not me that I need to vent a bit....

oh, and he said the affected area is near the end of the small bowel, but that it is not quite at the end....and the scope only really gets to the very end. Well, we'll see if this stuff helps at all. I'm only on day one, and so far, it's not a bad day.

Kind of freaky to read that I must avoid anyone with measles or chicken pox! Good thing I don't have kids!! :)

Thanks for the info!

Hugs and butterflies,
~T~

[crazycanuck]

I dunno why i'm smiling..:) :D

Oh yea..IT"S FRIDAY.....that's why i'm smiling. That and i get to battle the HILL tomorrow :)

c

[mimitabby]

CC, come to Australia, we're having a staggette party for KelownaGirl.

[kelownagirl]

Yes, and it's awfully quiet in there with just us two. :) (I think Lisa went to bed. :rolleyes: )

[LBTC]

CC, come to Australia, we're having a staggette party for KelownaGirl.

Okay, mimi, you now officially have me completely confused. Where is the party for KG?? You know I wanna come!

H&B
~T~

[mimitabby]

it's called OT: australia

but right here is fine too

[mimitabby]

of course, bedtime for me is in 30 minutes too.

[kelownagirl]

Yes, I can multi-task party too!

[LBTC]

*ding*

That's the sound of the dime dropping! haha

What are the festivities at the party?

H&B
~T~

[mimitabby]

what did people do before DSL? so as I was saying, are you doing the blue,
new, borrowed, old thing?

[kelownagirl]

of course, bedtime for me is in 30 minutes too.

Uh, aren't we in the same time zone? I'ts only 8:45. Do you have to work tomorrow or something?? :rolleyes:

[mimitabby]

LBTC I have dark chocolate here, about as strong as it gets at my house.

[LBTC]

Don't you have to work tomorrow KG?

~T~

[mimitabby]

Yes, I have to work tomorrow, must be at work at 630am

[mimitabby]

so KG is getting married on a MONDAY?

[LBTC]

Hey, waitaminute, KG when exactly is the wedding??

[kelownagirl]

Mmm, chocolate. DH just came in filled my wine glass and brought me bernard callebaut chocolates. Now you know why I'm marrying him. :D

Yes - Monday. Why? It's exactly half way between our birthdays. And it's 3 days before the Valdy concert in Ucluelet.

Work? Tomorrow? Nope. I'm a teacher. On spring break!

[kelownagirl]

Monday, March 19th, 6 pm at the Minstrel restaurant, under the big tree in the picture if it's nice. Inside in the back room if it's cold or windy.

[mimitabby]

hmm, what's he doing at the Stagette party?
He does sound really nice. is he really DH or is he DHTB (Dear Hubby to be)
I've never heard of those chocolates (or the drink)
but it all sounds very good.
and i asked about Monday, hoping to catch you up, thinking it was really SUNDAY and you miscounted. That's the sort of mistake I would make..

[kelownagirl]

He's watching hockey but came to give me a refill. Shiraz? - red wine. bernard C. ? - excellent super expensive chocolates. Sigh....

OK, over to Australia. I'm getting confused. Or maybe it's the shiraz?

[kelownagirl]

Plus, later he's going to be the stripper. :D

[mimitabby]

oh, do we get to see pictures??

only kidding.. sort of.

[kelownagirl]

LOL... hmmm, don't think so. He does have a nice butt though... ;)

[KnottedYet]

Oh, my! :p

[LBTC]

A nice butt is always better than a nice but

;)
~T~

[kelownagirl]

Hey Knot! I hope you have a no-gluten beer in your hand. I'm feeling very alone with my 3rd glass of wine. :)

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

LOL... hmmm, don't think so. He does have a nice butt though... ;)
Well glad I stayed up long enough for THAT! :eek: :D

Hey, g'night all- it's after midnight here. :cool:

[LBTC]

Nighty night, Lisa!

KG, I'm drinking a half glass of wine. (that's my limit right now). I am, yes, actually feeeling it by now!

You are not alone!

H&B
~T~

[kelownagirl]

I was going to add that LBTC. You and your half glass. Do what are ya drinking? I've got a bottle of Jackson Triggs Shiraz. Cheap and dependable.

[LBTC]

U-brew chardonnay semillon. Cheaper and dependable.

We just went to walmart and got hair colour. DH is gonna make me blonde again!

Hey, we're going to Kelowna tomorrow. Are you doing anything?

~T~

[kelownagirl]

LBTC - we have lots of ubrew here. Merlot, c=Cab Sauv, Gewurtz, and white merlot. Yum!

Tomorrow - must buy lingerie and honeymoon basket treats. Not sure what else. We've been biking for 3 out of 4 days this week so will probably not bike tomorrow. Then again, the little guy is going up to Big White with his Dad tomorrow so if the weather's nice, who knows? What are you doing in Kelowna?

[LBTC]

Probably just window shopping. DH and I have the day off - a rarity. And, yes, if we didn't work all day we might have gotten the bikes out....

Sounds like you have a big day ahead of you. We won't have our bikes tomorrow, but I hear we'll have rain anyway. Could be fun to meet to just say hi! :o Course, we'll be there again, I'm sure, and not so close to such a life changing event! We can wait! :)

We've tried a couple of other u-brew varieties, but stick with the c-s because we like it so much.

Time to get blonde!

H&B
~T~

[kelownagirl]

Well if you have a cell, PM me with your number, and if it turns out we're out and about, I'll call you and maybe we can meet for coffee!

[Offthegrid]

My BF has told me he typically dates blondes. (I'm naturally brunette and have it died a tad darker than my natural color.) I told him I would lighten it a bit in the summer.

[mimitabby]

OTG, that sounds accomodating of you.
I dyed my hair red only to discover that DH LOVES it and tells everyone I"m a redhead. Now, I still feel like a brunette... and my hair is really grey.

[KnottedYet]

My hair is really a dull steel gray, with some pure white at the temples. I dye it the same mahogany/reddish brown it was in my late 20's and early 30's.

[mimitabby]

Knot, i never would have guessed that your hair and mine are the same color (sans dye that is!)

[Kitsune06]

My hair is naturally a very ashen brown... was 'dirty blonde' when I was a kid... used to go red when I bleached it, but it doesn't seem to feel like it anymore. So I force the issue with Henna. :rolleyes:

[SouthernBelle]

Much of my 'real' hair color is actually quite white (premature, of course). But for the public it is a medium brown. But I leave a white streak on the top right side. My right, not yours.

[Bikingmomof3]

My hair is the original colour. Brown with gold, red, dark brown, and other naturally occuring shades thrown in. I am not fond of it, but I refuse to dye it myself. I tried that once and it went horribly wrong. :o :eek: :o

[mimitabby]

I wouldn't dye your hair either sounds cool Jen.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

I was originally light blonde, then I went red for 20 years.
Now I'm natural again, and i love it. It's a medium ash blonde with lots of silver streaked in everywhere. I love the way the silver glitters in the sun!

I once used a natural henna from the health food store, figurde I'd get a nice "natural" look. I must have done something wrong though, because I wound up looking like a carrot on fire. :eek: :eek: :eek: I felt like Ronald MacDonald. :eek: I had to cover my head and rush to the drugstore to find an emergency coverup dye! :D :eek: :D

[Kitsune06]

:eek: There's something wrong with the Atomic Carrot look?

[chickwhorips]

naturally i'm redish-brown.

though i do have some fond memories of some manic panic pink. :eek:

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

:eek: There's something wrong with the Atomic Carrot look?
I think it tends to look better when you're in your 20's or 30's. ;)

[KnottedYet]

making Jambalaya. A fine traditional Irish meal for St. Paddy's Day. :D

[Duck on Wheels]

Uh oh. I didn't wear any green. Good thing nobody here knows about pinching. And as for a traditional Irish meal ... I had lamb khorma, peshawari nan, and an Indian lemonade that I don't remember the name of (basically like US-style lemonade, with the addition of a pinch of salt).

[snapdragen]

Well, one of us is trying to keep tradition - I'm making Irish Stew or sorts. With beef instead of lamb, lots of taters, carrots and parsnips, and a can of Guinness. It smells wonderfull in the kitchen right now.:cool:

[snapdragen]

:eek: There's something wrong with the Atomic Carrot look?

I used to do kind of an auburn color, with blond streaks. One streaking session I over did the bleach, and ended up with Billy Idol white hair all over. So, I run to the store, buy a box of red, thinking it will tone everything down. Uh huh. Can you say "Lucy, I'm home!":eek: Ran back to the store and got a box of light brown - the end result was quite nice. I'm so glad my hair survived!

Now I'm a light to medium brown, depending on which box I pick :rolleyes: . I do have a bottle of Red mousse stuff I keep meaning to try. I thought maybe I'd streak my bangs with it.

[KnottedYet]

Help! I'm stupid!!

Today on Garrison Keillor's Prarie Home Companion there was this wonderful guitar instrumental that I think was called "Lucky Thirteen" played (maybe) by Jen Larson. I can't find a downloadable version anywhere! AAAAG!

How do I find this? I went thru the NPR and Prarie websites and thru iTunes, but had no luck.

[Trek420]

This looks like her myspace page?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=166708560

[KnottedYet]

Yup, found the myspace page already. Can't find the one instrumental song, though. The title was "Lucky 13" but it doesn't sound like any version of Lucky 13 I am able to find. Not sure it was Jen Larson. May have been someone else. grrrrrr.

[roguedog]

Well, one of us is trying to keep tradition - I'm making Irish Stew or sorts. With beef instead of lamb, lots of taters, carrots and parsnips, and a can of Guinness. It smells wonderfull in the kitchen right now.:cool:

Hey send a recipe. THis sounds good.. well, hmm.. did the Guiness go in the stew or in the chef??? :D

[snapdragen]

Here 'tis. I used parsnips instead of turnips, Safeway had no turnips! I swear, the Guinness went in the stew. :p

Vegetable-Beef Stew

From Cooking Light
We enjoyed this hearty stew with beef, but cubed leg of lamb would work, as well. For robust Irish flavor, use Guinness Stout or another stout for the beer that's specified in the recipe.


2 teaspoons vegetable oil
1 pound beef stew meat
1 (14-ounce) can low-salt beef broth
1 (12-ounce) bottle beer
1 1/2 cups cubed peeled baking potato
1 cup (1/2-inch) cubed peeled turnips (about 2 medium)
1 cup thinly sliced leek (about 1 large)
1 cup (1/2-inch-thick) slices carrot
3 thyme sprigs
1 bay leaf
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1/4 cup water
2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
1 tablespoon fresh lemon juice
1 teaspoon sugar
1/4 cup chopped fresh parsley
Thyme sprigs (optional)

Heat the oil in a Dutch oven over medium-high heat. Add beef, and cook 5 minutes, browning on all sides. Add beef broth and next 9 ingredients (broth through black pepper), stirring to combine; bring to a boil. Cover, reduce heat, and simmer 45 minutes or until vegetables are tender, stirring occasionally. Discard bay leaf and thyme sprigs.
Combine 1/4 cup water, flour, lemon juice, and sugar, stirring well with a whisk. Add flour mixture to beef mixture, stirring constantly; bring to a boil. Cook 3 minutes or until slightly thick, stirring constantly. Remove from heat, and stir in parsley. Garnish with thyme sprigs, if desired.

Yield: 4 servings (serving size: 1 1/2 cups)

CALORIES 337 (30% from fat); FAT 11.3g (sat 3.5g,mono 3.9g,poly 2.1g); PROTEIN 24.6g; CHOLESTEROL 55mg; CALCIUM 56mg; SODIUM 434mg; FIBER 3.7g; IRON 4.4mg; CARBOHYDRATE 27.5g

Cooking Light, MARCH 2004

[Bikingmomof3]

Here 'tis. I used parsnips instead of turnips, Safeway had no turnips! I swear, the Guinness went in the stew. :p

Vegetable-Beef Stew

From Cooking Light
We enjoyed this hearty stew with beef, but cubed leg of lamb would work, as well. For robust Irish flavor, use Guinness Stout or another stout for the beer that's specified in the recipe.


2 teaspoons vegetable oil
1 pound beef stew meat
1 (14-ounce) can low-salt beef broth
1 (12-ounce) bottle beer
1 1/2 cups cubed peeled baking potato
1 cup (1/2-inch) cubed peeled turnips (about 2 medium)
1 cup thinly sliced leek (about 1 large)
1 cup (1/2-inch-thick) slices carrot
3 thyme sprigs
1 bay leaf
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1/4 cup water
2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
1 tablespoon fresh lemon juice
1 teaspoon sugar
1/4 cup chopped fresh parsley
Thyme sprigs (optional)

Heat the oil in a Dutch oven over medium-high heat. Add beef, and cook 5 minutes, browning on all sides. Add beef broth and next 9 ingredients (broth through black pepper), stirring to combine; bring to a boil. Cover, reduce heat, and simmer 45 minutes or until vegetables are tender, stirring occasionally. Discard bay leaf and thyme sprigs.
Combine 1/4 cup water, flour, lemon juice, and sugar, stirring well with a whisk. Add flour mixture to beef mixture, stirring constantly; bring to a boil. Cook 3 minutes or until slightly thick, stirring constantly. Remove from heat, and stir in parsley. Garnish with thyme sprigs, if desired.

Yield: 4 servings (serving size: 1 1/2 cups)

CALORIES 337 (30% from fat); FAT 11.3g (sat 3.5g,mono 3.9g,poly 2.1g); PROTEIN 24.6g; CHOLESTEROL 55mg; CALCIUM 56mg; SODIUM 434mg; FIBER 3.7g; IRON 4.4mg; CARBOHYDRATE 27.5g

Cooking Light, MARCH 2004

Snap,
This sounds delicious, Thanks. :)

[Trek420]

Snap,
This sounds delicious, Thanks. :)

Snap, I bet this would work in a crock pot too. Gives me more time alone with the beer. :D ;) :cool:

[chickwhorips]

after having foot pain i don't know who would go to these extents even if it was a tradition.

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070317/photos_lf_afp/ce804710f5aaeb90b2de535aa8f2b746;_ylt=AqG_wNTl4S99GGy95ur9_LJPXLoF

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070317/photos_lf_afp/5d2ea3b8eb043fa6c2451b033903457f;_ylt=AqV37nStmHIVPiwaZ4CeZ.1PXLoF

[Kitsune06]

Ironically, I was all over this (http://www.barefooters.org/) today. :rolleyes:
"G_D D__N barefoot hippy!!!"

[LBTC]

after having foot pain i don't know who would go to these extents even if it was a tradition.

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070317/photos_lf_afp/ce804710f5aaeb90b2de535aa8f2b746;_ylt=AqG_wNTl4S99GGy95ur9_LJPXLoF

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070317/photos_lf_afp/5d2ea3b8eb043fa6c2451b033903457f;_ylt=AqV37nStmHIVPiwaZ4CeZ.1PXLoF

I've read about that, but it is shocking to *see* it!!

And, yes, all I can think is OUCH :eek:

H&B
~T~

[mimitabby]

amazing that that woman is still alive and even healthy looking

So, I took my DS to Recycled Cycles and helped him buy a new bike
Now I guess his name is Raleighdonson because he bought a tricked out
Raleigh fixie town bike with fenders, steel frame, nice light bike..

it's black. He's thrilled.

I ran into an old friend while I was there, Yes KNottedyet was getting Flossie back complete with brand new stem..