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KnottedYet

09-27-2006, 12:31 PM

My productive morning:

Slept in until 6:00 a.m. Hey, don't have to go to work this morning! Got up and played on the computer, made breakfast, walked the dog, cleaned the apt a little, packed up my bike stuff and drove to the trail.

Rode about 30 miles. Dropped off a bike seat, returned fugly stem to LBS #2, bought new bars at LBS #1, stopped at LBS #2 again to admire some seat post racks, went to Home Depot and bought electrical tape and zip ties. I'm sure I looked mighty cute on the trail: seat tied to my fanny pack heading one way, bars tied to my fanny pack heading the other way.

All before lunch!

LBS #1 said I should try riding the new bars on the old stem before I go switching stems. LBS #2 said they might have a used Nitto in the size I need at their offsite storage (aka home) which they'd sell me for $20. Both LBS's say if I put on a new stem all the cables will have to be replaced again. Dang. Just got all new cables last week. Money, blowing away...

Fondled some Vittorina Randonneurs with reflective sidewalls. Mmmm, nice.

so after I eat lunch I will attempt The Great Handlebar Switch. LBS #1 gave me some helpful hints. After the switch, then the wrap Trek sent Flossie.

Then another ride this evening!

(I can't stand the thought of replacing the cables AGAIN.)

snapdragen

09-27-2006, 12:45 PM

sheesh, at least where we work, everyone knows that the only thing they care about is shareholders' value!

It's even more bizzare - the management team and staff of PBS love the job I do - they joke about cloning me. The "jokes" about me never taking time off are no longer funny....

Selkie

09-27-2006, 01:05 PM

Snap---Dust off your resume, sister. It's time to move on! Life is too short.

DrBee

09-27-2006, 01:09 PM

Poor Snap! Did you ever get a helper?

snapdragen

09-27-2006, 01:32 PM

No help yet - still waiting on the promotion.:mad: I've gone as far as to check out what my pension would be if I retired next March -- about 50% of what I make now. Liveable, if I leave California.

I'm hoping this is just an extremely bad patch right now, I've got too much invested in this place to start over somewhere else. If I can stick it out for only 4 years and six months...........:eek:

KnottedYet

09-27-2006, 02:43 PM

Snap - retire in March and come to Seattle. Ok, seattle is expensive, but come live on Whidbey Island. A quick ferry ride to the mainland, or a long drive up the island and over a bridge.

Got the campy brifters off the old bars, and the old bars off Flossie. Oh, man, what an exercise in PATIENCE. I said "bugger" a few times, and with gusto. (my favorite swear word) Especially once when I nearly gouged Flossie's paint!!! :eek:

Got the new bars on, which was an exercise in spatial relations. I very carefully looked at the bars, figured out which way I wanted them to end up and which end to start on, fed them through the quill stem gently, and promptly put them on backwards!

Got the brifters on. Now I think I've got them where I want them: I can reach the brake levers from the hoods and from the drops.

Now I'm taking a coffee and chocolate break. Next step, tightening everything down, taping down the wires, then wrapping the bars. Then I'll go on a ride to LBS #1 (30 miles). They said they'd check my work and be sure I did it right and had things tight enough but not too tight.

SadieKate

09-27-2006, 02:45 PM

I broke down and placed a mail order for a few green bars. Haven't told Bubba though.:rolleyes: I ordered one of their limited edition gold Jamaican bars. It'll be given the test run immediately so we may need a special run for these. Will report later. Thank you for the offer!Mmm, life is good. Bubba is coming home early for a bike ride and the SB ordered arrived. The gold Jamaican bar leapt out of the box. It must have been feeling very claustrophic in there.:rolleyes:

The description on the wrapper:
Jamaica a l'ancienne melds the rustic textures of stone-ground Jamaican cacao nibs and course cane sugar to the deep flavor of SB Unsweetened Chocolate. It evokes chocolate's Caribbean roots.

I would call it a very rustic Nibby Bar with a rough texture and cane sugar overtones. Very interesting. Nibby Bar lovers will like it. It is pure dark chocolate left in an almost natural state -- not a "refeened" bar at all. Kind of like a young wine. Ingredients are: cacao beans, sugar and whole vanilla beans (70% cacao). You don't let it melt in your mouth like finely ground chocoate but move the nibs around because the taste changes at it hits different taste buds. It's kind of bold, rough and simple all at the same time.

Kitsune06

09-27-2006, 03:07 PM

Woo! Today's my day! My interview went *really* well. Apparently I'm one of 3 final candidates, and the gent I was interviewing with said he "Continues to be impressed with [our] interviewing experiences" hehehe.

Biked 10 mi to my optometrist and finally got fitted etc with Ciba H2Optics (I think?) the softer of their 30 day wearers. So weird. Lenses have changed SO much since I've last worn them (which wasn't THAT long ago; really!)

Now, seeing that I'm not wearing glasses anymore, I'm going to eat, clean up, drink a little and then head back out another 6 miles to the nearest hair place and see if I can't get trimmed a little before DGF comes home. =D

uk elephant

09-27-2006, 03:14 PM

I said "bugger" a few times, and with gusto. (my favorite swear word)

This is my favorite swear word too now. I never swear much, but sometimes "bugger" is the only fitting word. Especially to desribe annoying people. BF has been trying to teach me how to say it in a proper Northern English accent, but unfortunately I'm not good with accents. Apparently I do say "actually" in a Liverpudlian accent though. Made him go all misty eyed when I said it once. But I am trying hard to resist sounding too English. It's not really working. I've already converted to saying rubbish instead of garbage and occasionally slip up and say tomato (insert English accent) instead of tomato (insert American accent). Maybe I should just go back to speaking Norwegian instead. It's about time BF learned the language anyway....

DrBee

09-27-2006, 03:36 PM

finally got fitted etc with Ciba H2Optics (I think?) the softer of their 30 day wearers.

I wore O2 Optix for a while. They only lasted about 3 weeks. If I did a lot of riding, they did not last that long. Make sure you wear sunglasses that block most of the wind!

Congrats on the good interview!

DrBee

09-27-2006, 03:41 PM

Snap - hang in there! That promotion will come soon. Have you pestered them recently about it? What a PITA! Eat your favorite SB bar and trust that it will work out.

We checked out Roux today - lymph nodes in neck seem to be reduced to normal size (or at least we cannot feel them). He is looking good so far!

Does anyone have any idea why sometimes when I hit an apostrophe or other non-letter character (like backslash) that Firefox puts up the "find" box at the bottom and will not let me type. It is positively maddening! I feel like I am talking like Data. It does not do it every time, just some of the time.

chickwhorips

09-27-2006, 03:49 PM

Does anyone have any idea why sometimes when I hit an apostrophe or other non-letter character (like backslash) that Firefox puts up the "find" box at the bottom and will not let me type. It is positively maddening! I feel like I am talking like Data. It does not do it every time, just some of the time.

when you hit the Ctrl button first then one of those it brings up the find box at the bottom.

KnottedYet

09-27-2006, 03:50 PM

The bars are WRAPPED. I had to re-do the first side. Guess I was just practicing.

Flossie is ready for a ride.

My next door neighbor (the one whose boyfriend shot himself in the head a couple weeks ago) is here with her mom moving stuff out of the apartment. She came to my door on the verge of tears asking me if I wanted her patio furniture. Then she started crying. I felt like such an @ss, because all I could say as she walked away was "Hang in there."

I am ready for a ride.

chickwhorips

09-27-2006, 03:59 PM

there really isn't the "right" thing to say in a situation like that. your not an @$$ at all.

Lise

09-27-2006, 04:23 PM

KN, you're not an @ss. She's going to cry no matter what. Your kind intention will show through any words at all.

Kitsune, congrats on the good job interview and the new lenses!

Snap--arrrrgh! I agree, polish up the resume.

SK--chocolate has remarkable spirit-lifting powers, non?

I just made the most delicious and easy meal. Trader Joe's frozen Veggie Pad Thai in a bag + broiled salmon. Good, crisp veggies, tasty sauce. Salmon--fairly cheap pieces from Jewel (I know, should be wild caught or something, but I live on the edge), with soy sauce and sesame oil, broiled 5 min/side, mixed in with the Pad Thai. Delish and good for me, too.

And, going to nap before heading in to a night shift. L.

chickwhorips

09-27-2006, 05:26 PM

good job kit! we all knew you would kick some @$$

get some good sleep lise!

and chocolate has some AMAZING healing powers!

Kitsune06

09-27-2006, 05:47 PM

BUGGER!!!!!

About 5 minutes after I post my "my interview went well! etc" thing, I got a call- apparently, they chose someone else, but I'm at the top of the list in case things should 'not work out' with her refs, background check, etc. Yay?

I got bummed and went for my hair cut (ok, I think I look cute w/o big ol' glasses on my face) and got back to hear another message on the machine- apparently another advisor is looking for an assistant and is conducting interviews, so the guy I was interviewing with said "She's my next-in-line, but if you want to hire her..." so she should be calling me soon. Yay?

I was bonking hard because between the long bike to the optometrist and back, and the heat, and not bringing enough water, and the stress, I wasn't eating enough, so I came home, made myself a huge sub and grabbed a cider... so everything's good now. :D Contacts are weird. You never know how much peripheral vision you're missing out on by having glasses, until you wear contacts. Ugh. I'm going to go take a nap... Put me down for 26 miles today on a pretty heavily loaded mtb and remind me when I wake up that I need a lighter rack. This one was cheap when I got it, but prolly weighs about 4#. :eek:

chickwhorips

09-27-2006, 06:01 PM

kit not sure if i should say sorry or congrats yet.... i guess i'll hold my tounge till we find out more.

DirtDiva

09-27-2006, 06:20 PM

Yay for new routers! I'm back in broadband business. :) There was too much Drift in my absence to respond to everything that went on over the last few days, so I'll just stick with this one question:

Why do you all have to spend so much time talking about chocky when I'm totally PMSy and about five minutes walk from a supermarket, cafés, etc.? Huh? Huh? :rolleyes: :mad: ;)

snapdragen

09-27-2006, 06:29 PM

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KnottedYet

09-27-2006, 06:48 PM

Rode Flossie with her new bars and lovely tape that Trek sent down to LBS #1. They checked her over and said I did it all right. (I was mostly worried that I hooked up the brifters correctly) Like the Salsa Short and Shallow bars a lot. Can't wait til I get a stem with shorter reach and a bit more height.

About 60 miles today. The farthest I've ridden Flossie so far. I have to guess because I don't have the computer on her yet.

Kit - good luck with all the job stuff. I got a pretty good job once because I was 2nd on someone's list and they "gave" me to another manager who needed to hire.

I ate dinner before my second ride, but now I'm hungry again. I want what Lise's having! :D

margo49

09-27-2006, 06:59 PM

BUGGER!!!!!

I was bonking hard because between the long bike to the optometrist and back, and the heat, and not bringing enough water, and the stress, I wasn't eating enough, :eek:

I'll say :eek:
We've told you all before what bonk is in Oz/NZ;
so imagine what comes to mind when we read "bonking hard"
Added to which it is before 6 am so the brain is still getting re-set

Bikingmomof3

09-27-2006, 07:16 PM

KN- In a situation like that, there is nothing "right" to say. You are not an @***. You meant well, kindness surpasses words.
Congrats on getting everything for Flossie and I am pleased you enjoyed your wonderful ride. :)

Snap- I am sorry you are worked so hard. Will you be getting any help in the near future?

Kitsune- congrats on the new contacts and haircut. I am thinking good job thoughts for you.

DirtDiva- congrats on getting back to broadband.

Lise-I hope you had a lovely nap and the nightshift goes smoothly for you.

I am off to bed. No chocolate for me and I have been craving it all day. Tomorrow I get to meet a new neurologist, oh the joy. :p

SadieKate

09-27-2006, 07:21 PM

DrBee

09-28-2006, 04:25 AM

when you hit the Ctrl button first then one of those it brings up the find box at the bottom.

True - but I'm not hitting the control button. Hmmmmm...

Lise - that dinner sounded good! I'm still craving the vietnamese food BikerZ and I had in SF and that heavenly OJ I had with MP. Soon - I will live where there are good restaurants. In 2 weeks from today I head to BR!

We had venison (Hunter's style - smothered with onions, garlic, thyme, and saucy) and carrots glazed with brown sugar and butter. Ooh yummy! I love cooking out of the freezer!

Bikingmomof3

09-28-2006, 05:49 AM

KnottedYet

09-28-2006, 06:02 AM

Good luck with the neuro! Maybe if you offer to share your SB and G, he'll only give you good news.

Keep us posted!

Bikingmomof3

09-28-2006, 06:12 AM

(smacks hand to forehead) I knew I should have purchased some bribary chocolate.

KnottedYet

09-28-2006, 06:37 AM

I have to face the sad truth that my Terry commuter skort and my one and only pair of running pants are too big now.

I can squeak by with them, but they wad (skort) and droop (pants). Right now Terry has old skorts on sale for $35.

The deep and burning question is: which is better, "wildebeast" or "mad plaid"?

http://www.terrybicycles.com/detail.html?c=On+Sale&sc=Skorts&item_no=9511

Oh, I should check what size I am.

Edit: oh, crud. I'm right on the border of M and L. I've only had one skort from Terry (XL). Anybody know if it's better to go larger or smaller with their sizes?
Might be a moot point, as it appears there are only L's in the $35 sale skorts.

mimitabby

09-28-2006, 06:40 AM

I have to face the sad truth that my Terry commuter skort and my one and only pair of running pants are too big now.

I can squeak by with them, but they wad (skort) and droop (pants). Right now Terry has old skorts on sale for $35.

The deep and burning question is: which is better, "wildebeast" or "mad plaid"?

http://www.terrybicycles.com/detail.html?c=On+Sale&sc=Skorts&item_no=9511

Oh, I should check what size I am.

KY, I like the mad plaid on you because of the color!

KnottedYet

09-28-2006, 06:50 AM

Yeah, I'm leaning toward the mad plaid, too. Color is good, plus it's pretty warped. Kinda the twisted Catholic Schoolgirl look.

Very appealing. ;)

I guess for $35 I really can't go wrong.

margo49

09-28-2006, 06:52 AM

I

The deep and burning question is: which is better, "wildebeast" or "mad plaid"?
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Why not the Margarita??

KnottedYet

09-28-2006, 07:06 AM

the margarita just doesn't appeal to me for some reason. Guess I don't like having words and faces on my butt? I'm just weird that way.

Mad plaid is growing on me. So are the xmas bike cards with the tree in the back of the bike.

DebW

09-28-2006, 07:22 AM

Last night I dehydrated 1.3 pounds of cooked ground turkey. I'm starting a 4 day hike on the Long Trail in Vermont Sunday, so getting the food ready. For dried vegies, I've got turnips, pea pods, asparagus, peas, and corn. Also some yogurt leather and strawberry-banana leather and dried apples. I should be eating pretty well. Cooking on my homemade 1/2 ounce alcohol stove made of tin cans and fiberglass attic insulation, with my 0.9 liter titanium pot.

This will be my final 47 miles of the Long Trail. Did the southern 105 miles (co-incident with the AT) in 2001, another 140 miles from Canada south in 2003. I'm going to do a happy dance and drink a Long Trail Ale when I finish and can call myself a Long Trail End-to Ender. The Long Trail is one tough mother of a trail. Constant ups and downs, which are straight up and down over rock ledges. Took my knees a few months to recover the last time. Imagine standing on a 2 inch wide ledge, with the next step (foothold) another ledge 2.5 feet below, so you basically have to do a one-legged deep knee bend with 35 lb on your back. And do that a dozen or more times per day, combined with a horizontal distance of 10-14 miles. This last stretch, I think, won't be as ledgy as the more northerly parts. And as usual for Vermont hiking, it's supposed to rain 3 of the 4 days.

mimitabby

09-28-2006, 08:03 AM

Imagine standing on a 2 inch wide ledge, with the next step (foothold) another ledge 2.5 feet below, so you basically have to do a one-legged deep knee bend with 35 lb on your back. And do that a dozen or more times per day, combined with a horizontal distance of 10-14 miles. This last stretch, I think, won't be as ledgy as the more northerly parts. And as usual for Vermont hiking, it's supposed to rain 3 of the 4 days.
oh Deb, be careful. Sounds scary! I hate walking on ledges!

I also hate deep knee bends!

I myself am very nervous about the Menage a Trois race i am in on Sunday.
my racehorse/captain is WAY competitive. I must be nuts!!! my poor DH is having anxiety dreams about this same race. He is on a team with another big strong character and a very sensible but fairly fast woman. I am the only
one on the back of a tandem (that i know of)

Bicyclette

09-28-2006, 08:08 AM

BMo3 - Good luck with the neuro

KY - I like the wildebeast :D

Deb -WOW!! Hope you have a great time and don't get too wet

Mimi - Good luck on Sunday - I'll bet you do great

SadieKate

09-28-2006, 08:32 AM

To prepare to meet another neurologist and find out the results of my MRI, I bought Scharffen Berger Bittersweet and Ghirardelli Intense Dark-Espresso Escape bars. I think I am set, at least for the morning. :)Heh, I just rewarded myself with a Peet's Mocha made with SB - had my first closed MRI and didn't freak out.

I learned about short bore MRIs. I could see the wall beyond my feet the entire time as I was only rolled in up to my hips and a closed MRI takes just slight more than half the time the open MRI did (as takes a better picture). I was a very good patient. Well, other than grousing about the 3 pages of forms to be filled out -- all med record stuff that has been in the same health system for years.

DebW

09-28-2006, 09:02 AM

oh Deb, be careful. Sounds scary! I hate walking on ledges!

I also hate deep knee bends!

These aren't vertical ledges with long drop-offs, just short (6-8 vertical feet) stretches of bare rock that are steep enough you need small flat spots to put your feet on and sometimes roots to hold for balance. My hiking partner from 2003 did this hike in 2004 and hated it because of the mud. There are shelters every 5-7 miles so at least I can get out of the rain. And if it's raining all night and I'm alone in a shelter, I'm using a one-gallon ziplock bag instead of going outside to pee.

Best story from the 2003 hike was when we decided to take a day off in town. The local B&B was full, but the owner said he knew a woman who might take us (2 women and a dog) in. So we stayed with a wonderful 80 year old woman who first wanted us to check the beds to see if they were all right (we'd been sleeping on plywood for 2 weeks, the beds were great). She fed us venison chilli for lunch, we hung out on the lawn with her neighbors all afternoon, she cooked us breakfast (even an egg for the dog), and drove us back to the trail. She offered to keep the dog while we finished hiking, but a day of rest did the dog good and he continued on with us. A week later after bailing off the trail and hitching back towards my car, we ended up in the same town and got to visit her again. Such a treat meeting a gracious and down-to-earth woman in a little town in Vermont. I got a Christmas card from her that year.

DrBee

09-28-2006, 10:07 AM

Cool story DebW!

BMo3 - good luck with the doc!

Bikingmomof3

09-28-2006, 11:17 AM

I just gor back from the neurologist. I suffered a stroke at the ripe old age of 36. I will be going back for more tests Oct 18th. I have been placed on an asprin regime as well as a calcium entry blocker. Thanks everyone for the good thoughts. At least the numbness is not from my bike. :) I am not supposed to drive, but I can cycle-I am not even questioning that one.

mimitabby

09-28-2006, 11:24 AM

a STROKE!! good grief! what's your prognosis? Does it run in your family?
I'm so sorry to hear that!

Bikingmomof3

09-28-2006, 11:42 AM

Yes, strokes run in my family, but with my history of migraines and the severity of them, I knew it would happen, just not when. I will go to hospital on the 18th for an EEG, CUS, and a TCD. Until then, he has given me meds to try and keep my vessels/arteries happy and free flowing.

also I am 37, geez, I do not even know how old I am.:rolleyes:

SadieKate

09-28-2006, 11:43 AM

Geez, what news! I think you need lots of SB.

Brina

09-28-2006, 11:48 AM

Yeah, I'm leaning toward the mad plaid, too. Color is good, plus it's pretty warped. Kinda the twisted Catholic Schoolgirl look.

twisty catholic schoolgirl is always such a fun look.

Brina

09-28-2006, 11:54 AM

BMo3 oh, gosh, a stroke. glad you are okay. I hope you get good answers and meds that keep things under control so it doesn't happen again.

Deb - that hike sounds intense. Enjoy - or, survive - whichever your goal is.

chickwhorips

09-28-2006, 12:31 PM

wow a stroke! i'm glad the figured out what was wrong, but sorry to hear that. glad you can still be on your bike though!

Bikingmomof3

09-28-2006, 12:33 PM

I have to face the sad truth that my Terry commuter skort and my one and only pair of running pants are too big now.

I can squeak by with them, but they wad (skort) and droop (pants). Right now Terry has old skorts on sale for $35.

The deep and burning question is: which is better, "wildebeast" or "mad plaid"?

http://www.terrybicycles.com/detail.html?c=On+Sale&sc=Skorts&item_no=9511

.

I vote mad plaid. I went to a Catholic all girls school, taught of course by nuns. I like the idea of mad plaid.

CONGRATS on the weight loss. :D

Bikingmomof3

09-28-2006, 12:37 PM

Sk-congrats on not freaking out during the MRI. SB is a wonderful way to celebrate.

Deb -you are a brave woman. Have fun, be safe, and I cannot wait to hear all about it.

Mimi - You will do great on Saturday.

I am looking around for more chocolate, oh I did not get enough SB. :eek:

DrBee

09-28-2006, 12:53 PM

BMo3 - Good luck with the next round of tests. I hope they can keep another stroke at bay. At least you can still bike and eat chocolate! ;) Keep us posted!

xeney

09-28-2006, 12:53 PM

Wow, BikingMom, I will think good thoughts for your tests.

KnottedYet

09-28-2006, 01:04 PM

BMo3 - I'm so glad you got that numbness checked out! Be good and do what the docs tell you. And eat more chocolate. :D So glad that got caught!

DebW - Be careful out there! And have fun!

gotta run back to work. Got a message that there's a used Nitto stem the size I need with just a "couple scrapes on it" that I can buy for $25. MWBR

mimitabby

09-28-2006, 01:13 PM

sometimes this place is a welcome distraction. the house and the senate are voting to legalize torture, forgive the prez for war crimes and eliminate habeus corpus.
My own senators and representative voted against this BS but it's still happening!

So I come here and dream with you guys about bikes and cool gadgets.

I called my LBS today (Okay, Elliott Bay bikes) and asked them about what to do about my Bianchi that won't take a fender. He talked about putting a split fender on it; a type of surgery that takes 1-2 hours. And I may do that.
But what about my next bike, I ask; the future? he says, well, it would be foolish of me not to mention; we MAKE bikes and we can fit it however you like.
We can even put your campy stuff on the new bike if you like; just take it off
your old bike. I mentioned that it would be a while before I could get a custom bike because they are in the process of making one for my husband. He laughed and said, "no, you don't understand how this works.. once HE gets one, he can't argue when you say you want one too!"
I am not ready to ditch my cute bianchi today but it was with a gleefully warm and fuzzy feeling that I hung up the phone... and for a moment I forgot that our country is stepping into the dark ages.

Lise

09-28-2006, 01:14 PM

BO3, I am glad you have a diagnosis, but sorry that's what it is. And very glad that you can keep biking. More chocolate. Definitely.

KN, I'll post the lone vote for Wildebeest. I also like Margarita, but think it would look cuter over slender hips and belly than my own curves!

I've decided to just stop buying stuff, as much as I can. I sat down and got a solid grip on my finances last Friday. I *can* get out of the debt with which I left my marriage, if I knuckle down. I do, however, also want to get a trainer for the bike so I can ride indoors this winter. My LBS is getting in (I think) CycleOps trainers (if that sounds right), which cost $330. So now I'm thinging, for example, "Hmmm, a new skort, only $35...or....1/10th of a trainer!" Then I imagine the figure I calculated I need to pay off this year, and the skort or theraputic trip to Target or whatever sounds so much less appealing. I'm keeping an eye on Steep & Cheap for a Christmas gift for my brother. I'm kicking myself for not getting him the SmartWool zip T-neck the other day. I had the idea the day after, by which time they were selling snowboards again, of course! :p

Bikingmomof3

09-28-2006, 01:41 PM

Mimi-this is a wonderful place to come to. So warm and cozy. :)

KN-keep us updated on the stem for Flossie.

SK-I have a CycleOps and love it. My not so local bike store sold it to me for under $300! The best purchase I ever made, besides my bike of course. :) I too am kicking myself for not buying the merino zip-up.

The best thing about this diagnosis is I get to take baby aspirin-yum!

Why do medical questions come to me after their offices are closed? I had a seizure delivering my first child and I am on anti-seizure meds, will the Calcium Blocker play nicely witht the seizure meds?

SadieKate

09-28-2006, 01:49 PM

Call the pharmacist about the drug interactions.

You can get a lot of info on the drug's website also. Amazing what's out there on the 'net these days.

chickwhorips

09-28-2006, 02:11 PM

The best thing about this diagnosis is I get to take baby aspirin-yum!

are they the grape flavored ones? yummy! :D

my favorite med is still the buble gum flavored antibiotic (i think) i had as a kid for ear infections. ahhh... the memories.

snapdragen

09-28-2006, 02:42 PM

SadieKate

09-28-2006, 02:44 PM

Yum. Can I come if I bring the chocolate?

chickwhorips

09-28-2006, 02:55 PM

yum! sounds good. can i come? i'll bring some salmon too. :)

Bikingmomof3

09-28-2006, 03:32 PM

Snap- The dinner sounds wonderful! May I come? I could clean-up.

Brina

09-28-2006, 03:59 PM

Nooooooo! No grape flavor - makes me wanna womit! I preferred the old fashioned orange flavor.

How's this menu sound? It's for my Dad's 80th birthday party.

Lime marinated Salmon fillets
Grilled Vegetables (potatoes, peppers, onions..??)
Green Salad - all lots of goodies like berries
Pasta with Butternut Squash and Shallots (for the vegetarians)
Crusty bread

Can I get away with serving a light tasting red wine?

Yes, you most definitely can. Ask your LWS (local wine shop) for a recommendation - they will definitely have a few for you. The whole, white with fish and chicken, red with beef, veal and pork thing is such overstatement.

winddance

09-28-2006, 04:21 PM

I liked the orange-colored Triaminic when I was little. I have no idea what it is actually supposed to taste like, but it was always very pleasant and sweet.

Anything fake cherry my mother had to hold me down and force down my throat. Robitussin = ew!

snap, that dinner sounds lovely.

DebW

09-28-2006, 05:45 PM

BMO3 - Sorry to hear about the stroke, but hopefully you can prevent anything worse.

Thought I'd show you all a picture from my 2003 Long Trail hike. There were 3 ladders on the trail, and we worried about getting the dog up them. Here is Dalydog (and his owner) ascending the first ladder. He did great. The 2nd ladder was OK too. The third ladder was aluminum and he couldn't climb that, but we got him around it on a ledge. Whenever we'd come to a steep part that required handholds for humans, Daly would study the rock for a minute or so, then he'd leap and scramble up, with each of his 4 feet landing just where he'd planned. Though I hadn't met Daly (or his human) before we started this hike, by the 2nd day he had adopted me and insisted that the two humans hike together so he could keep an eye on both of us (his border collie tendencies, apparently). I'd never met such an intelligent and serious dog.

LynneK

09-28-2006, 06:46 PM

Can I get away with serving a light tasting red wine?

Wow, does that sound fantastic! I think I'll draw some inspiration from this menu for my future cooking.

Two aspects of the menu -- the lime marinade on the salmon and the butternut squash -- make me suggest an Alsatian Pinot Gris. Your LWS will be able to suggest a good one in the $12 range; one reliable producer is Trimbach. A gewurztraminer might also work, but it might be a bit sweet for the tang of the lime.

If you want to go red, there are plenty of good-value-for-money pinot noirs, but even that is likely to come in conflict with the lime on the salmon. In that case, you could change your marinade to balsamic vinaigrette or something like it.

YUM!

chickwhorips

09-28-2006, 07:52 PM

deb whenever i would take my big dog hiking i would worry about her getting up some of the steap stuff, but she seemed to be better at it than me. and she didn't fall on her @ss as much as i did either.

dogs are amazing and great for stuff like that. love the picture!

KnottedYet

09-28-2006, 07:54 PM

Ordered the Mad Plaid. And a pair of pink Terry socks, only because I don't do laundry often enough and can't find my nice thin biking socks. And socks didin't increase my shipping charge. I'm such a sucker....

Had tunafish on rice cakes for dinner and a V-8. SOME folks are planning meals I'd MUCH rather eat!

chickwhorips

09-28-2006, 07:56 PM

Knot sign up for the october seceret sister. its socks this month. the mad plaid was my favorite!

Lise

09-28-2006, 08:02 PM

Snap--the menu sounds wonderful.

I, too, love the taste of orange St. Joseph baby aspirin. I hate grape and cherry flavorings. I still remember the taste of the polio vaccine on the sugar cube they gave me. YUCK. Beats polio, of course...:rolleyes:

Deb, that picture and story of the dog hiking is wonderful. Like everyone here, I have a soft spot for valiant, smart, loyal pups. Your hike sounds amazing. Looking forward to stories and pictures!

Xrayted

09-28-2006, 08:03 PM

The skort - the mad plaid, definitely. Should look hot.

The wine - Bet Nanci would know. (I'm a total wine idiot)

The menu - my next dinner party I'm coming to you for suggestions. Mmmmmm...

KnottedYet

09-28-2006, 08:06 PM

Orange baby aspirin is the best! I was taking aspirin after my blood clots, and orange brought back all those happy childhood memories. (stealing yummy aspirin from the medicine cabinet!)

Ah, those halcyon days before child-proof caps!

Nanci

09-29-2006, 03:54 AM

MO3, I'm glad you have a diagnosis! You say you remember the day it happened, how did you know, and, retrospectively, was it any of the things like we hear on the public service commercials- difficulty speaking, one-sided weakness, etc?

I am at increased risk of stroke due to the hole in my heart- say I fracture one of my femurs and there are big globs of fat/marrow/clots floating around in circulation- normal people get that stuff filtered out by the lungs before that blood heads up to the brain- mine can cut across in the heart and head up there, bypassing my lungs. Not to mention the at least three AVMs in my lungs that will let big stuff right on through even when it does follow the normal path of circulation...

I remember baby aspirin. We had some little tiny cherry kind that came in a tiny square bottle. I liked to sneak and eat that, as well as vitamins. My favorite kid medicine, though, was and still is grape Dimetap (diphenhydramine.)

I stayed up all night. I feel like crap. We're supposed to be going on a motorcycle trip to Georgia. Blech.

I have a wildebeast LS jersey that I got on clearance last spring that I haven't worn yet. I can't wait.

Wine for salmon- I love Pinot Gris- but most of mine is from Oregon and Washington. That is probably my favorite white right now. Otherwise, what about a dry rose, like Bonnie Doon Vis Gris de Cigare? That's a blend, I think, but I just had a Temperanillo rose from Bodegas Vina Villano that was very good. They are sort of watermelon/ripe tomato/flowery. Or white merlot is getting better and drier lately, too.

Deb, sounds like a fun trip you have planned. It would be so cool to have time to hike any of the big trails. I have this DVD about a guy, David Horton, who tries to break the record for the Pacific Coast Trail, supported. I've been on little bitty bits of the Long Trail and the AT. Wow- to get to do the whole thing of one of them- that's a dream.

MO3, back to you, how long till you get to drive again? I have a friend, who had a diving incident, who got driving taken away for several months...That would be horrible! I guess a good excuse to bike to work, though.

Well, I guess I'm going to sit out and have coffee. It's only 66F. High of 85F.

Bikingmomof3

09-29-2006, 05:09 AM

To answer your question Nanci, the symptoms were exactly what the service announcements warn about. Unfortunately I spent years with those symptoms, since it is what usually occurs just before the actual pain of a migraine arrives.

First I lose most of my vision. My vision returns and then one half of my body goes completely numb. Sometimes the numbness is accompanied with me not being able to say words properly. For example I will see a shoe, think shoe, but gibberish comes out. Finally the the pain comes. I am always relieved the pain comes because it has always meant I did not have a stroke.

The only differences this time were the following; I kept cycling through not seeing/numbness/pain over and over and over all night; and I was not making sense when I was speaking. It sounded correct in my head, but not to my family.

Would it have made a difference had I gone to the ER? Maybe.

As a result I am weak/numb on my left side and occasionally I cannot recall words.

To answer your question about driving, I was never to drive with a migraine and since I have them so often, I was not driving much. Now he would prefer I not drive until the tests are in on the 18th. I think he is worried I will have another stroke on the road.

Sorry, this was so long and unbelievably boring.

Nanci

09-29-2006, 05:49 AM

I don't think it's boring!

mimitabby

09-29-2006, 05:55 AM

no, Jennifer, not boring at all. I had no idea you were going through all that; you and other migraine sufferers..

I hope you get your strength back!

maillotpois

09-29-2006, 06:35 AM

Wow, Jennifer - not remotely boring. What a story. As I said in the other thread - I'm glad you have a diagnosis, at least. And ditto the baby aspirin - I love that orange stuff! It's possible I may have to take it now, too once I'm off my anti-coags. Out of curiosity, are you on any anti-clotting stuff now, or do they feel that there's nothing medically they want to do about it (besides the baby aspirin)?

Deb - what a great dog!! The hike sounds fantastic!

Nanci - a hole in your heart - yikes! My family often teases me about not having a heart, but you've got a real hole! I gather it hasn't held you back... :cool:

Snap, what time's dinner?

chickwhorips

09-29-2006, 07:55 AM

It's only 66F. High of 85F.

only 66? thats a heat wave. *breaks out in song*

i'm planning on going down to phoenix to sort some things out in storage in november and thats probably going to be the weather. i'm going to have heat stroke!

anyone want a gliding rocking chair with matching foot stool or a computer desk? still looking for takers on those out of my storage.

DrBee

09-29-2006, 10:22 AM

Deb - what a cool dog!

BMo3 - wow! How often do you get the migraines? That whole cycle sounds really scary! What do they think is causing it?

Nanci - we're in the same weather pattern that you are. It's beautiful here right now!

I packed some things up in my office today! Wow - what a wierd feeling. My carpooling buddy is throwing a big going away party for us tomorrow afternoon. There are going to be like 35 people there! Should be quite the event!

Mr. Fish baked me a cake today (b-day). How sweet! I kinda figured my b-day was going to get lost in all the chaos!

Trekhawk

09-29-2006, 10:29 AM

chickwhorips

09-29-2006, 10:29 AM

Happy Birthday FishDr!!!!!

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i295/fairie1323/bdayparty.gif

snapdragen

09-29-2006, 10:36 AM

Happy Birthday fishdr!

DrBee

09-29-2006, 10:40 AM

Hee hee - Thanks :)

maillotpois

09-29-2006, 11:09 AM

Happy birthday Fish!!!

I hope the cake is good... mmm, cake! Have fun at the party.

DrBee

09-29-2006, 11:25 AM

It's chocolate cake with chocolate icing with M&M's on top! Yummmmm :D

maillotpois

09-29-2006, 11:30 AM

It's chocolate cake with chocolate icing with M&M's on top! Yummmmm :D

You're dead to me.

KnottedYet

09-29-2006, 11:32 AM

BMo3 - not boring. we care about you and we want to know

FishDr - Happy Birthday!

gotta run back to work. See yas!

Trek420

09-29-2006, 11:38 AM

maillotpois "You're dead to me."

I henceforth and hereby withdraw my footer :mad:

chickwhorips

09-29-2006, 12:02 PM

It's chocolate cake with chocolate icing with M&M's on top! Yummmmm :D

ooohhh the pain! the pain! we do we have to endure this girls? how could you be so cruel? http://www.smileypad.com/v224/Sad/Crowded.gif

SadieKate

09-29-2006, 12:14 PM

Happy B-day, Ms FishDr. Do give yourself a day off from trying to keep the world balanced.

It's that time of year again. Gotta change my avatar.
And wanna join my team? <---------;)

maillotpois

09-29-2006, 12:26 PM

DrBee

09-29-2006, 12:29 PM

heh heh - I do what I can :p

I'm searching for a new avatar, and a new name. I still like my sig line for now.

SadieKate

09-29-2006, 12:48 PM

Just changed my signature line - I've decided to run it as a contest and see who can ID the movie.... Prize undetermined.

Hmm, I guessed the right source just didn't know which movie. Had to look it up so I guess I'm disqualified.:(

maillotpois

09-29-2006, 12:50 PM

No pumpkin pie for you!

bikerz

09-29-2006, 01:15 PM

So avatars are seasonal? Hmm. Just changed my signature line - I've decided to run it as a contest and see who can ID the movie.... Prize undetermined. SK, your sig line makes me hungry....

Got to be Month Python's Holy Grail! The peasants in the field scene, right?

(SK - nice to see the familar avatar again! I never *quite* got use to the lizard one, although I did like it)

maillotpois

09-29-2006, 01:20 PM

BikerZ! Nice of you to drop by! And you win the prize. What'll it be? ScharffenBerger? Rafanelli? :p

bikerz

09-29-2006, 01:33 PM

BikerZ! Nice of you to drop by! And you win the prize. What'll it be? ScharffenBerger? Rafanelli? :p

Ha! No prize necessary! Just the satisfaction of being right!:D

I have to confess that chocolate is wasted on me - I like it, but I probably wouldn't jaywalk across a busy street for it. Rafanelli, on the other hand...

My favorite lines from that movie are:
"How do you know she's a witch?"
"She turned me into a newt." <...wait for it...> "I got better" :rolleyes:

[OK - gotta get back to work!]

Bikingmomof3

09-29-2006, 01:38 PM

So avatars are seasonal? Hmm. Just changed my signature line - I've decided to run it as a contest and see who can ID the movie.... Prize undetermined. SK, your sig line makes me hungry....

I can't possibly equal CWR's avatar - that's just the best.

I know this one! Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Bikingmomof3

09-29-2006, 01:42 PM

It's chocolate cake with chocolate icing with M&M's on top! Yummmmm :D

Yummy!! Enjoy the cake. :)

Happy Birthday Fishdr!!!!!!!!!!

Bikingmomof3

09-29-2006, 01:51 PM

BMo3 - wow! How often do you get the migraines? That whole cycle sounds really scary! What do they think is causing it?

Fishdr-I spend most of my life in pre-migraine, migraine, or post migraine. I am without pain for maybe a week out of a month. The million dollar question is what is causing them. Neurologists have been watching me for 23 years trying to figure that one out. I gave up trying to long ago. They are not hormonal based nor do foods trigger them. We do know my serotonin is all whacked out (okay, I know there is a fancy term for that, work with me). More tests on the 18th, but those are to determine if another stroke is imminent, check for clots, etc.

As long as I have chocolate, I can get through the mix of emotions I am going through. Knowing I could have a stroke was so different from actually having one. My boys are young, I am young, and darn it, I will participate in a triathlon.

I am slipping into pity mode, I will go grab the chocolate my SS sent and not bother everyone.

Bikingmomof3

09-29-2006, 01:52 PM

I have to confess that chocolate is wasted on me - I like it, but I probably wouldn't jaywalk across a busy street for it.

What? :eek: I am in love with SB. It is my new best friend. ;)

DrBee

09-29-2006, 02:15 PM

BMo3 - maybe something in the new round of tests will give some indication of the cause. Technology now is so much better than even 5 years ago. It might be worth trying to figure it out. At least the world will never run out of chocolate! Focus on the triathlon. Geez - you're a mom of 3. That alone proves you're tough as nails! Hang in there. We're here for you. Please don't ever feel like you're boring us with your medical stories. If you need us, we'll be there. Now - go eat more SB, toodle around the neighborhood on your bike and hug your kids :)

maillotpois

09-29-2006, 02:16 PM

I know this one! Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Your stroke obviously had no impact on your mental movie library! :)

Kitsune06

09-29-2006, 05:44 PM

Biking Mom- Take good care of yourself! I'm so sorry to hear about the stroke, but hopefully there will be better news in the days ahead. Gotta keep playing the cards we're dealt...

Still waiting on news from one of those prospective employers... finding out that the dry-dry-dry air at work is causing me total agony with the contacts... gruh. lots of rewetting solution. =P Other than that, so wild to get up in the morning and see even when first opening my eyes. Correction, though, I don't have the O2Optix, I have the night&days... the 30 day ones (o2optix are 2 wk removeables...)

it's turning into a LONG monday. =P

KnottedYet

09-29-2006, 06:17 PM

I am slipping into pity mode, I will go grab the chocolate my SS sent and not bother everyone.

Bother? What bother? That's what TD is for!

Free form! Non sequitur! A propos! Whine! Celebrate! Trivia! Butt-shots!

(uh, wait, that last one's not TD, that was just me...)

We love you, now, get yer buns over here and bother us!!!!!!!

Kitsune06

09-29-2006, 06:31 PM

butt-shots? ... I'm skairt. :eek:

OK, so the drink of this weekend was the B-52.
Grand Marnier, Irish Cream and Kaluah. All must be chilled; GM and K in the freezer, IC in the fridge b/c putting it in the freezer does weird things to it.

In a liqueur glass (or really big shot glass) layer as such, pouring each over the back of a chilled spoon, rinsing the spoon off between ingredients:

1 1/2 oz Kaluah
1 1/2 oz Irish Cream
1 1/2 oz Grand Marnier

Pour veeerrrry slowly over the back of the spoon to layer. It takes some practice.

If you don't feel like all that work, then throw the above into a shaker with ice and shake the h*ll out of it, then serve.

Taste is that of an orange creamsicle dipped in chocolate, or one of those chocolate oranges you have to hit on something to break apart. Too good. =D

chickwhorips

09-29-2006, 06:35 PM

ahh yes my personal bar tender. glad you made it to the party :cool:

Kitsune06

09-29-2006, 06:52 PM

*grin*

Hey, just catch a flight south and spend the weekend... I'll play around with every GM/K/IC combination there is (and just you wait and see if I could find Sambuca!)

kelownagirl

09-29-2006, 07:03 PM

When I really *was* a bartender in my other life (back in 1980, apparently before you were born..) - B52's were the big thing. I made dozens of trays of them every night... Then we invented a B52 "float" (pour the b52 ingredients over the rocks and add coke. Weird but tasty...

barb

butt-shots? ... I'm skairt. :eek:

OK, so the drink of this weekend was the B-52.
Grand Marnier, Irish Cream and Kaluah. All must be chilled; GM and K in the freezer, IC in the fridge b/c putting it in the freezer does weird things to it.

In a liqueur glass (or really big shot glass) layer as such, pouring each over the back of a chilled spoon, rinsing the spoon off between ingredients:

1 1/2 oz Kaluah
1 1/2 oz Irish Cream
1 1/2 oz Grand Marnier

Pour veeerrrry slowly over the back of the spoon to layer. It takes some practice.

If you don't feel like all that work, then throw the above into a shaker with ice and shake the h*ll out of it, then serve.

Taste is that of an orange creamsicle dipped in chocolate, or one of those chocolate oranges you have to hit on something to break apart. Too good. =D

Kitsune06

09-29-2006, 07:04 PM

Bikingmomof3

09-29-2006, 07:19 PM

It is nice to know I can have a pity party here with all of you should I need another one. You gals are awesome!

Okay, I do not know who my SS was, but she rocks! I have been overdosing on SB. Did you know the SB hot cocoa mix can be melted and used for dipping fruit and pretzels in? I highly recommend it. :D

Kitsune-I am keeping you in my thoughts and prayers for a wonderful job offer.

Pity I am not allowed to drink. :( I recall B-52s. Kelownagirl-I was around in the 80s, a snotty private school girl, who um may have once or twice dabbled with B-52s. :cool:

Any ideas for a cool hat I can wear to hospital that will double as a cycling hat to keep me warm over the winter months under my helmet?

annie

09-29-2006, 07:30 PM

Jumping into TD right now.....

Don't know nothin' 'bout a drinkie named B52 but it sounds tasty........ How about an Irish Car Bomb? Also tasty! 1/2 pint Guiness with a 1/2 oz of Baileys, 1/2 oz of Jamison's Irish Whiskey dropped - boom- into the glass. Drink quickly!! Mmmmmmmmmmm! Or you'll end up with a cement mixer.

BMo3 - Migraines - BAD, AWFUL! I can relate, tho' I have not suffered to the degree that you have. Treatments are out there. Hope you can find one to help.

Chocolate, in any form. Not my chosen vice. Hope you all enjoy the chocolate of your craving. Give me caffeine. Give me wine. Give me spices. Give me time to ride my bike!! You may have your chocolate. :cool: :p :o Think of it this way........ more for you!

annie

KnottedYet

09-29-2006, 07:35 PM

BMo3 - how 'bout some of the wool helmet liners at Ibex? I want one. www.ibexwear.com

these are cute: http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=645&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/840_8664.jpg&Category=1051&CategoryLine=

and so are these: http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=661&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/845_3264.jpg&Category=1051&CategoryLine=

yes, I am an Ibex addict. I admit it freely.

but there is also Terry's helmet beanie with the chickie riding no hands and no feet and NO HELMET embroidered on it.
http://www.terrybicycles.com/detail.html?c=Apparel&sc=Headgear+%26+Glasses&item_no=1736

Kitsune06

09-29-2006, 07:43 PM

Jumping into TD right now.....

Don't know nothin' 'bout a drinkie named B52 but it sounds tasty........ How about an Irish Car Bomb? Also tasty! 1/2 pint Guiness with a 1/2 oz of Baileys, 1/2 oz of Jamison's Irish Whiskey dropped - boom- into the glass. Drink quickly!! Mmmmmmmmmmm! Or you'll end up with a cement mixer.

annie

Huh. I've heard of the drink, but never with the Irish Whiskey in it.

The best thing I can ever reccommend is the fairly-rare Damiana liqueur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damiana). The scent is floral, almost like a perfume. Taste is light, delicate, but rich. Very hard to describe. #1 suggestion is chilled, half/half with Jaeger. #2 is mixed with 7-up, but neat on the rocks is good, too. mmm.

snapdragen

09-29-2006, 07:49 PM

These all sound like mighty sweet drinks girls, kinda making my teeth hurt.

**curls up with her tart LemonDrop**

KnottedYet

09-29-2006, 07:53 PM

I like my whiskeys and liqueurs and such straight. No ice. No water.

there are a couple mixed drinks I like: gin and tonics, Margaritas

Red wines are good, generally. And champagne is ok.

but I really like BEER!

(Jaegermeister just isn't the same since they took the opiates out. Probably just after you were born, Kits. Mid-to-late 1980's.)

snapdragen

09-29-2006, 07:56 PM

mmmmmmmmmmmm

Champagne!

Trek420

09-29-2006, 07:58 PM

KnottedYet "Probably just after you were born, Kits. Mid-to-late 1980's"

ah HAH, a clue

Bikingmomof3

09-29-2006, 08:03 PM

KnottedYet

09-29-2006, 08:07 PM

Kitsune06

09-29-2006, 08:07 PM

(Jaegermeister just isn't the same since they took the opiates out. Probably just after you were born, Kits. Mid-to-late 1980's.)

Hmm. Wow. Yeah, I missed out on the good stuff!

Bikingmomof3

09-29-2006, 08:07 PM

BMo3 - Migraines - BAD, AWFUL! I can relate, tho' I have not suffered to the degree that you have. Treatments are out there. Hope you can find one to help.
annie

Thanks Annie. :) I have had migraines for 23 years, numerous neurologists and even more treatments. There is not much left, but to try to prevent another stroke. Right now I am on a treatment that I was on about a decade ago, we are just recycling them. Hopefully the tests will result in another answer. I should hold out hope, not give in. I am just tired of all the different meds. :(

Bikingmomof3

09-29-2006, 08:12 PM

I think their shipping is fast. Maybe 3 or 4 days from Vermont to Seattle? Often it seems to arrive sooner than I expected. When you call, you can ask. They are also very cool about returns. I really like Ibex. I have no complaints about anything I've ordered. It all survives the washing machine (cold water) better than my Icebreaker or Duofold.

What color hat are you gonna get? I haven't decided yet.

I kinda like the currant "Skimmer" and the black "Meru".

I like all the colours. Tonic is really nice, although black is most practical, since it will show the sweat less. If I was wealthy I would buy one of each. So tonic or black? Fushia is nice a cheery. I do not know. I will mosty likely dream of the hats tonight. :)

Lise

09-29-2006, 08:13 PM

JEEZ! I go to work, a little family get together, and you all go berserk!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR FISHBEEDR!

Jennifer/MO3--you've got a lot of respect coming your way from me. I've lived with chronic pelvic pain for years. It made me very crabby and self-pitying. I can't imagine the neuro symtoms you have and the pain over and over for 23 years. Well, I can *almost* imagine it, but I can't imagine being so positive and so involved in life, as you are. Sending you a hug (((MO3))).

Kitsune, Snap--wishing the best possible job for you both.

Chocolate. Yes. That's all I'm saying.

Tired, so very tired...can I go back to not working, yet they make regular deposits in my account? I liked that.

I have a date tomorrow night with Mr. FarAway. I had a fun conversation tonight with another guy who seems cool, and, like me, doesn't drink. Then there's the 62 year old professor, we have a phone chat date tomorrow. Oh, I am a popular girl. :rolleyes: Funny thing, the 51 year old non-drinker is getting his master's at the university where the 62 year old is a professor...I had brief visions of running into one while out with the other. Haven't met either of those two yet. MWBR!

Had a great time with my sister/family/Mom tonight. My little Maya (the niece you saw in the picture about 50 pages of TD ago!) is so in love with her Aunt Lise. There's nothing like that. She was reminiscing about, "Aunt Yeesa, you rememboo the time we went to Kiddieland? You rememboo? An' we went on the plane ride and you were laughing and laughing! You rememboo?" Yes, sweetie, I remember. Oh, what a joy. :D

To bed. I feel completely unready for this 13 mile run on Sunday. Heck. It may be my slowest race ever! :p Jamie and I have dubbed our running style "Consistently Slow".

Lise

09-29-2006, 08:17 PM

Thanks Annie. :) I have had migraines for 23 years, numerous neurologists and even more treatments. There is not much left, but to try to prevent another stroke. Right now I am on a treatment that I was on about a decade ago, we are just recycling them. Hopefully the tests will result in another answer. I should hold out hope, not give in. I am just tired of all the different meds. :(

I also wanted to comment on how glad I am that you had your three babies without having a stroke sooner. Sounds funny, but as a midwife, that really caught my attention. How were the migraines during your pregnancies?

Bikingmomof3

09-29-2006, 08:30 PM

I have a date tomorrow night with Mr. FarAway. I had a fun conversation tonight with another guy who seems cool, and, like me, doesn't drink. Then there's the 62 year old professor, we have a phone chat date tomorrow. Oh, I am a popular girl. :rolleyes: Funny thing, the 51 year old non-drinker is getting his master's at the university where the 62 year old is a professor...I had brief visions of running into one while out with the other. Haven't met either of those two yet. MWBR!

Had a great time with my sister/family/Mom tonight. My little Maya (the niece you saw in the picture about 50 pages of TD ago!) is so in love with her Aunt Lise. There's nothing like that. She was reminiscing about, "Aunt Yeesa, you rememboo the time we went to Kiddieland? You rememboo? An' we went on the plane ride and you were laughing and laughing! You rememboo?" Yes, sweetie, I remember. Oh, what a joy. :D

To bed. I feel completely unready for this 13 mile run on Sunday. Heck. It may be my slowest race ever! :p Jamie and I have dubbed our running style "Consistently Slow".

I am nervous and happy for you! Where will you and Mr. Faraway be going? And a phone date. Wow, you are popular, two dates in one day. :cool:
I do so hope you plan to report to those of us who need to live vicariously through others.

Your family time sounds as though it was quite delightful.

Sleep well.

Bikingmomof3

09-29-2006, 08:35 PM

I also wanted to comment on how glad I am that you had your three babies without having a stroke sooner. Sounds funny, but as a midwife, that really caught my attention. How were the migraines during your pregnancies?

Lise-they were bad, but I has so many other things go wrong, they seamed minor. Pregnancy #1-became ecclamptic, had a seizure, hemorrage, and a premature baby (he was huge at 5 pounds, blue and floppy). Pregnancy #2-on hospital bedrest the entire time. My twins had TTTS, I was pre-ecclamptic (became ecclamptic), gestational diabeties, and spent a large portion of my time on Magnesium Sulphate (for the record, I HATE that stuff). Again, premature babies. Very premature babies. Upside, all are healthy, active and happy boys now. :) For the record, I was told I would most likely not survive a third pregnancy and measures were taken during delivery #2.

Bikingmomof3

09-29-2006, 08:43 PM

SadieKate

09-29-2006, 08:51 PM

Don't let the bedbugs bite.

annie

09-29-2006, 09:45 PM

Well, now everyone knows my complete medical history :eek: I have no secrets left. :o

I am off to attempt sleep. It is way past my bedtime and DS #1 has a dreadfully early cross country meet.

As for Ibex helmet liner, I think fuschia is in the lead.

Night All.

I can't sleep, either. UGH!! Just finished off three (!) pieces of olive and mushroom pizza. Yumm! So I eat instead of sleep. Leaving me wondering how many extra miles I need to bike to wear off the night-time calories!!

Running 13 miles is beyond my imagination at this point. I am doing well to manage 3. And my muscles hurt like he** after trail running yesterday.

I'm now thinking I was lucky to "only" have migraines! And not all the associated problems like BMo3 is dealing with. <<HUGS>> to you.

Best job wishes to those hunting! Those out there in the dating field, also!

How often does one check TD to stay current? Daily? Hourly? By the minute? ;) :rolleyes: :) I'm a little overwhelmed, but I'm tryin'

annie

DirtDiva

09-29-2006, 10:02 PM

Wow B3! Sound like life is rough just now! I had my first (and hopefully last) migraine relatively recently - I thought it was hideous at the time, but it was nothing compared to what you've gone through for so long! :eek:

maillotpois

09-30-2006, 05:46 AM

annie - GREAT signature line!!

BMo3 - wow you have been through a lot in your young life.

Lise - good luck with the boys...

okay - steeling myself for my 20 mile run/walk this morning. I haven't really done anything since my 18 miler a couple of weeks ago (before Hawaii). oh well. something like 4 weeks to marathon... :eek:

Lise

09-30-2006, 05:56 AM

Lise-they were bad, but I has so many other things go wrong, they seamed minor. Pregnancy #1-became ecclamptic, had a seizure, hemorrage, and a premature baby (he was huge at 5 pounds, blue and floppy). Pregnancy #2-on hospital bedrest the entire time. My twins had TTTS, I was pre-ecclamptic (became ecclamptic), gestational diabeties, and spent a large portion of my time on Magnesium Sulphate (for the record, I HATE that stuff)....

Jennifer! WHOA!

For those of you who don't work in obstetrics, the above tale is the equivalent, for me, of a scary horror movie. I am so glad that you and your boys got through it. To give perspective: I've worked in OB for 18 years, first as a nurse, now as a midwife. I've worked at two high-risk and one mid-level hospital. I've seen eclampsia (seizures with high blood pressure) *twice* in all those years. I've cared for many pre-eclamptics, but, knock wood, few have gone on to seize.

And everybody hates Mag Sulfate. My sister had what we thought was severe pre-eclampsia with both of her pregnancies. It turned out she had a tumor on her adrenal gland, diagnosed when baby Maya was 7 mo old. The symptoms mimicked pre-eclampsia. She got a lot of "mag" around the time of her deliveries. I hated seeing her get it, knowing how uncomfortable it is. I sat at her bedside at one point, holding an oral airway in my hand, just in case she seized.

Good for you, with all you've come through (and there's much I'm sure we don't know!). It strikes me that you have a positive attitude, and a focus on the future, not the past. (((hugs))) from me, too.

Lise

09-30-2006, 06:07 AM

okay - steeling myself for my 20 mile run/walk this morning. I haven't really done anything since my 18 miler a couple of weeks ago (before Hawaii). oh well. something like 4 weeks to marathon... :eek:

Have fun, MP! They're saying "Mostly sunny tomorrow, with a high of 76", which sounds very good for a very slooow 1/2 marathon (for Jamie and me. Others will be running quickly. :rolleyes: I just noticed that you can't make "fast" an adverb.)

I love both of your sig lines, Annie and MP...when I came here last night and saw MP challenge us to ID the movie, my hand shot up--I KNOW! I KNOW! Of course, there were three pages of TD to read yet, and the brilliant and widely educated women around here couldn't possibly have missed that one :p . I have a cassette tape somewhere of the best bits of Monty Python. That scene is one of the first on the tape. I used to rewind it and listen to it over and over! "Old woman!" "I'm not a woman! I'm a maaan!" I miss having a cassette player in my car.

I'm off to the 1/2 marathon expo. I love a shopping opportunity. Except that it will be window shopping this time. Really. :o

DrBee

09-30-2006, 06:39 AM

MP - good luck with the run/walk today! Do a mile for me, ok? Then I won't feel so guilty for being such a slug lately! Of course, I do have the toxic fumes in the air (defoliant) also keeping me inside.

Lise - good luck with the 1/2 marathon and the dates and extra good luck with not giving in and buying anything today.

I seem to have birthday money rolling in and I'm trying to figure out what to buy. I have my eye on a trainer, too. I'm trying to be strong and not run to the TE site to make a purchase! Grrrr this is tough.

Bikingmomof3

09-30-2006, 07:52 AM

KN-I ordered the fushia Ibex hat. :cool:

MP-have a great run. Add a few miles for me as I am down for the day.

Lise- feel free to buy things for me at the expo. :D Best of luck with the 1/2 marathon, I look forward to hearing all about it.

Fishdr-you should see my wish list at TE! I *heart* my ClycleOps trainer. Now I need some videos for it. I caved and ordered my first Ibex product a few minutes ago. Happy Shopping! :)

KnottedYet

09-30-2006, 08:01 AM

I caved and ordered my first Ibex product a few minutes ago. Happy Shopping! :)

Mooooo-hooo-heh-heh! Welcome to the Dark Side!!

(I'm still leaning toward the black solid one or the pink and gray stripe one. Somehow I will have to justify the NEED for one. Will I really be riding in the cold that much? Hmmmmm.)

annie

09-30-2006, 08:16 AM

How went the run/walk MP? 20 miles sounds like a looooong way to me..... I just went out for my first run of the season, since daylight time for biking is disappearing. I made 3 miles and was happy with that.

Good luck tomorrow, Lise, in your 1/2 marathon! 13 miles sounds like a long way to me, too! Not a runner here. :o

I'm off for a bike ride now! Nice day, sunny and warm. There won't be too many more like it.

annie

Bikingmomof3

09-30-2006, 08:23 AM

Mooooo-hooo-heh-heh! Welcome to the Dark Side!!

(I'm still leaning toward the black solid one or the pink and gray stripe one. Somehow I will have to justify the NEED for one. Will I really be riding in the cold that much? Hmmmmm.)

You really *should* buy one, I would hate for you to out for a ride and catch a cold. I thought about the striped pne, but the cool stripe would not show up under my helmet. Maybe I need that one for running? Better safe than sorry. :D

chickwhorips

09-30-2006, 09:36 AM

Jumping into TD right now.....

Don't know nothin' 'bout a drinkie named B52 but it sounds tasty........ How about an Irish Car Bomb? Also tasty! 1/2 pint Guiness with a 1/2 oz of Baileys, 1/2 oz of Jamison's Irish Whiskey dropped - boom- into the glass. Drink quickly!! Mmmmmmmmmmm! Or you'll end up with a cement mixer.

welcome to jumping into TD! i've been 86'd from irish car bombs, te-kill-ya, and jaegermeister. baaaaddd nights with praying to the toilet gods.

Well, now everyone knows my complete medical history :eek: I have no secrets left. :o

it all comes out eventually on TD.

good luck with the dates lise. aren't you the popluar one. then again we all knew you would have guys pounding down your door.

Kitsune06

09-30-2006, 12:44 PM

Huh. Never been praying to the toilet gods. Felt like it (downing an irish car bomb, along with cantalope scooped out w/ port poured inside and deciding to wrestle someone about 2x your size will do that) but thankfully I've never been. ...but I'm still 21 for another few months, so I guess we shall see.
(Oh! A Clue!!!)

realizing that o2Optix aren't for continuous 30 day wear (like my optometrist seemed to think) I tore them out last night and cleaned/soaked them. They feel lots better today, way clearer, but still a little uncomfortable. Just not used to 'em yet, I think.

Way to be popular, Lise! :D Sounds like you can take your pick!

KN- re: Ibex wear... isn't wool sorta heavy and/or itchy?

KnottedYet

09-30-2006, 12:58 PM

KN- re: Ibex wear... isn't wool sorta heavy and/or itchy?

No.

I was having an A-#1 rotten morning. Then I went for a bike ride. 30 miles only, but it was crisp and cool and very little traffic on the trail. There were moments when Flossie and I just seemed to click. So lovely. I found I could "play piano" while riding, and that I could let go with one hand. Didn't feel tippy or squirrelly.

Guess I needed to get stronger more than I need a new stem. So I didn't get a new stem. (wasn't sure the used one would fit, and the guy selling it was asking the same price as for a new one at LBS #1)

Recycled Cycles fixed a sqeaky brake pad, just cuz they love me, and chatted with me about goodies for Flossie. She will be getting new tires soon (Vittoria Randoneurs 700 x 28 with reflective sidewalls). After that will be new softer brake pads. I bought her a cute little light, very similar to a Knog Frog, to put on the bars. It's pretty bright.

Flossie had a little fan club everywhere we went. That was fun.

Now to shower and eat, then to help HipGnosis6 get her bike to Recycled Cycles.

Lise

09-30-2006, 01:32 PM

KN--looking forward to pix of Flossie when she's all tricked out in fine fashion!

Kitsune--wool, Merino wool, at least, turns out to be wonderfully comfortable. My grandmother was a seamstress when she wasn't teaching 8th grade, and I have horrible memories of beautiful clothing she made that I could not stand to wear. Even lined, the wool itched unbearably. But I've come to love my SmartWool socks and Icebreaker sweater. Both feel snuggly warm but not hot or itchy. I'm asking for more of the same for Christmas!

In fact, if anybody hears of any deals on Merino wool clothes, please mention it here. I keep watching Steep & Cheap. :D
.......................
PS--I managed to spend no money at the Expo. I was sorely tempted, but that vision of the bottom line of my debt kept floating up between me and the 40% off jacket, etc. Also, the 40% off jacket = 20% of the price of a CycleOps trainer. Keeps me on track. Feels good to have a modicum of discipline, y'know? :rolleyes:

Grog

09-30-2006, 02:13 PM

Ibex wear... isn't wool sorta heavy and/or itchy?

It's probably better for you and your finances to keep on believing that...

Fine merino wool is nor itchy nor heavy, when it's properly done at least (which is the case for Ibex, Smartwool, IceBreakers, etc.). Dries quickly, wicks nicely, can be light or heavy depending on what you're after.

But keep on believing it's itchy...

Bikingmomof3

09-30-2006, 02:22 PM

Kit- Merino is wonderful wool and not itchy. I knit with it all the time. Most wool these days are not itchy, like when we were kids-wait-when I was a kid. My boys fave nevern known the pain of scratchy scarves.

KN- I am sorry to hear you had a bad morning, but pleased to know going out for a ride on Flossie made things better.

Lise- Did you have your phone date yet? How was it? What time are you meeting Mr. Faraway?

Ditto to Lise's request for merino clothing sales. I find mysels constantly watching Steep and Cheap.

Lise

09-30-2006, 02:48 PM

But keep on believing it's itchy...
I'll tell you where it's itchy--in the wallet. Whoo! Good stuff costs money! Who knew? :p I'm just so enchanted with my 70% off Icebreaker sweater and my 60% off SmartWool running socks (wearing those tomorrow, in the race).

TWO phone dates--one with the Southern Guy from last night, and one with the Professor this afternoon. Both really nice conversations. The Professor is the 62 year old. He ran a 5K for Breast Cancer this morning. He was embarrassed about his pace until I told him that was *my* pace, too. Date w/Mr. FarAway is at 7PM. I'm leaving the house at 6:15, meeting him at a restaurant 1/2 way between us. See what I mean about "far away"? All three of these men are widowers.

Having opened my mind to somewhat older men, I'm seeing some really cool profiles, and have really enjoyed talking with these three guys. Who knows what will happen, but thanks for all the encouragement. I made my profile very clear about:
1. I like to run/bike/do triathlons. I want to share that with a partner.
2. I don't drink. Really.
3. I don't want to date anyone who doesn't have some sort of spiritual way of life.
4. No smokers.
Some guys still don't seem to read beyond the picture, but I seem to be attracting more of what I want. We shall see. How'm I s'posed to go to dinner when I feel so danged nervous? :rolleyes:

Running clothes all laid out. I'm going to wear the shirt I had made for the marathon last year, with my dad's picture on it. I had the idea while running last year's 1/2 marathon, two weeks before the big run.

Bikingmomof3

09-30-2006, 03:10 PM

Lise- The shirt is wonderful! I am pleased both phone dates went so well and I cannot wait to hear about your date with Mr. Faraway. I am living vicariously through you, I have not been on a date since May of 1991. I would not even know what to do or say or wear. :eek:

You and I appear to have the same taste in men, at least the 4 qualities you listed.

Have a great time tonight!!!

KnottedYet

09-30-2006, 04:48 PM

I was sitting here being kinda depressed because it's getting too dark to go for another ride (and I want to RIDE) when my dear triathlon-friend called and asked me if I want to go out for dinner!

YES!!!!

My neighbor's mom and sister moved her stuff out of the apartment today. I asked them to tell her we were thinking of her. Then I started crying. Bleh.

Kitsune06

09-30-2006, 04:54 PM

((Knot))

maillotpois

09-30-2006, 07:52 PM

Wow, Lise. What a great shirt!! Good luck on the 1/2!!!

Thanks for the good wishes you guys. The 20-ish miler (it's not like I have a sneaker computer) was PAINFUL. Hmm. Maybe I should try running during the week instead of just the long runs? :rolleyes: Anyway, It was okay and I know I'll get through the marathon. It'll just hurt.

Kitsune06

09-30-2006, 08:15 PM

Can I vent here, just a little?

I'm really starting to hate my job. If things were set up in such a way that I could actually *do* my job, it'd probably be okay... but something happened tonight that's driving me straight up a wall. I can't go into specifics, but the police dept for the town I'm in called and needed to speak urgently to one of our employees regarding her son. It was an emergency. For the next 20minutes, I'm trying every extension I have, trying managers on their radios, everything and I can't reach anyone who can find this employee. I finally caved when the officer started to lose her patience with me, and called one of our Emergency Response Techs to just run out onto the floor to see if they can find this poor woman. I mean, it's her son here... so 15 minutes after that the woman finally gets here, and I can finally call the PD for her and have them tell her that her son's okay, etc... but that's half an hour delay just trying to find someone. I should be able to grab anyone right off the floor- if theoretically, our directy was accurate, and people answered their radios, etc etc. GRRRRRRRR :mad: :mad: :mad:

...thinking positive job thoughts.

KnottedYet

09-30-2006, 09:27 PM

New job, new job, new job.

<positive new job thoughts>

Spokes are crossed for ya.

KnottedYet

10-01-2006, 07:11 AM

RABBIT RABBIT!!

Happy Oct 1, everyone!

Finally read my email (didn't for a week, I forget I have email acct). Discovered I missed the LAST Team Survivor bike ride/end of the year get-together at Hales Ales (brew pub). DANG! At least they emailed the end-of-year survey. I'm gonna volunteer for the bike program next year. Especially the jersey committee, already told them I was gonna work on that. Anyone got any good sites for me to look at to learn about custom jerseys? (hint, hint, Amici Veloci?) Or a favorite jersey company?

Too much to do today. Dunno how I'll get a ride in. And my Ibex knickers are dirty dirty dirty from y'day. And my skort is dirty dirty dirty from Wednesday. Gee, I should start doing laundry. Might have to wear my Emergency Back-Up saggy-baggy bike shorts. My lycra droopy-drawers catch on the nose of my saddle, but I MUST! RIDE! BIKE!
:D

Kitsune06

10-01-2006, 08:26 AM

If Flossie's calling to you that much, I'd definitely suggest the saggy baggies. What are function or fit when we're talking true love here? ;) :cool:

Bikingmomof3

10-01-2006, 08:26 AM

This is a short Vent, I just need to say it to someone so I can rid myself of bad energy and focus on making today a fun birthday for my oldest son.

My mother is a *itch! Always has been, always will be. She is blaming me for having a stroke! She actually *believes* I somehow managed to have a stroke, on purpose, for sympathy!! AUGH! This is the woman who wonders why I never visit her. Go figure. She is abusive, not so much physically anymore, just mentally, and completely narcissistic. Gee, why on earth would I want to keep myself and my children away from her? :rolleyes: It really sucks not having a the support of a parent. Parents are supposed to love their children unconditionally, apparently she never received that memo. Why, after 37 years, do I keep getting surprised by her behaviour?
Whew, I feel somewhat better venting. Thanks to anyone who read this.

KnottedYet

10-01-2006, 08:37 AM

BMo3 - that so totally sucks. I mean really really sucks!

Dump that bad energy here on TD, it will evaporate away, and have a lovely time with your son's birthday!

(and hey, can you teach me that trick of doing medical things to yourself on purpose? Cuz "the girls" are starting to sag a bit, and I'd like to get a little lift into them by sheer willpower.)

salsabike

10-01-2006, 08:41 AM

Hey, BMO3, my best friend has a mother much like this. My friend is one of the smartest, wisest, funniest, most compassionate, grown-up people I know. There is something really missing from her mother, who is just awful and always has been. I think I said before in TD that good people don't always get the parents they deserve. It still surprises her too after all this time. Every great once in a while she has a session or two with a great therapist she's known for years just to get refreshers in how to defend her heart and gut against a mother who's a narcissistic, mean, sociopath. So know you are not alone. It's not fair and you don't deserve it. But you are in excellent company--there are other wonderful women out there who have to try to deal with this. She did it by making her own little family--wonderful husband and son--into the happiest, sanest, and best little group, and by surrounding herself with good friends.

Veronica

10-01-2006, 08:48 AM

Your mom is an idiot Bmo3. Who would want to have a stroke? Geez...

Enjoy your day with your family.

V.

Kitsune06

10-01-2006, 08:53 AM

BMo3- I hear you... loud and clear. My mom's pretty similar in those respects... don't let it get you down. We all know better, and if that's the path of thinking that she insists on taking, then there's little we can do but know how wrong it is and keep our chins up. (And she wonders why I moved 2000 miles away as soon as I was 18?) ;) Hang in there, we're pullin' for ya.

(BTW... i'm with Knot, just... incase your mom is right. The ladies aren't going anywhere, but if I could get my heart to keep a decent rhythm and all my joints not not be so crackly and noisy, I'd be thrilled. ...and well... for future use on the ladies just in case an A can actually be affected by gravity. :rolleyes: )

maillotpois

10-01-2006, 08:58 AM

Th
My mother is a *itch! Always has been, always will be. She is blaming me for having a stroke! She actually *believes* I somehow managed to have a stroke, on purpose, for sympathy!! AUGH! This is the woman who wonders why I never visit her. Go figure. She is abusive, not so much physically anymore, just mentally, and completely narcissistic. Gee, why on earth would I want to keep myself and my children away from her? :rolleyes: It really sucks not having a the support of a parent. Parents are supposed to love their children unconditionally, apparently she never received that memo. Why, after 37 years, do I keep getting surprised by her behaviour?
Whew, I feel somewhat better venting. Thanks to anyone who read this.

Oh my god - is your mother my mother by any chance??? Hugs to you. But seriously, that is somthing my mother would do - and the whole emotionally abusive narcissism thing. Wow. For example, her drug OD during my second year of law school being one of her cries for attention. Oh, and the irrational and scary screaming fit at me in a restaurant in front of my fiance and a dear friend of hers right before my wedding. We're getting along a lot better now, but she lives on the other side of the continent and is better medicated.

You know this, but remember, this is NOT her problem. This is YOUR body and YOUR legitimate medical issue which YOU did not create. Go hug your boys. Part of the struggle with a parent like that is not passing it down the line. It sounds like you are a fantastic mom and you have been through a lot. Seriously, go hug your boys and take them outside to play and don't think about your mom if you can help it.

chickwhorips

10-01-2006, 09:01 AM

lise - good luck on the date and 1/2 marathon. love the shirt too.

BMof3 - that is such bull whooie! she needs a good swift kick in the shin. how rediculous can she be?

kit - still holding to the theory of a new job.

i am off to town (aka anchorage) today. get a few days off from cooking, i get to eat out! woo hoo! its sad when you have planned out where you are going to eat out before anything else. have a bunch of dr and dentist appointments to get to too. hopefully nothing is running behind. the joys of running around in town for a couple of days. its never relaxing. ack! and traffic! glad i'm not driving.

everyone have a great week and i'll catch up with ya'll later in the week. :)

snapdragen

10-01-2006, 09:12 AM

bmo3 - I used to have a friend like that; "used to" being the operative word. Too bad it's not as easy to jettison family. ((big hug))

Anchorage! cwr - I like Anchorage; hell, I love Alaska. There was a deli on 4th street I think, that I'd go to. I wonder if it's still there, this was a million years ago.

Oh! I forgot! Dad's birthday dinner was a huge success - the family actually stayed at the dinner table well into the night, chatting, laughing. I'm a happy hostess. :D

chickwhorips

10-01-2006, 09:18 AM

which one is it snap? my favorite place downtown is humpy's (http://www.humpys.com/). they even have a marathon every year.

annie

10-01-2006, 09:19 AM

((BMo3)) You might not get hugs, virtual or otherwise from your Mom, but you can get them here! :) And from your boys.

Knotted - I gotta ask, maybe I missed it somewhere, but how did you come up with the "Flossie" for your bike? I can't help it, I think of teeth every time I read that name. :rolleyes: Sorry! :D

kit - Give 'em time- even A's can lose that certain perkiness that we'd like to keep forever!

How'd it all go, Lise? The date and the 1/2? Waiting to hear.

chickwhorips - enjoy your eating out!

I am lazy today. Should be out on my bike. It's BEAUTIFUL here, and here I sit in front of the comupter. Worked till 2:00 a.m. last night and just can't get myself jump started. Soon, I hope!

annie

Lise

10-01-2006, 11:11 AM

Back from 1/2 marathon followed by french toast. Going to soak my legs in cold water, and then crash. Will tell all later. :D L.

snapdragen

10-01-2006, 01:28 PM

It might actually have been called the 4th Street Deli. It's been about 10 years since I was last there. I really need to plan another trip up!

Bikingmomof3

10-01-2006, 02:22 PM

Thank you everyone for listening to me vent and for the wonderful words of encouragement. :)

Here (hopefully) is a photo right before my son's birthday dinner.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/knittingmomof3/100_2020.jpg

Kitsune06

10-01-2006, 02:34 PM

BMo3- Please pass on a Happy Birthday to your son- BTW I like the T-shirt. I have a few like that. Can't go wrong with smart-aleck statements! :D

Annie- I'm going to pretend you didn't say that. I'm going to pretend I didn't read that, and go on with my day.

At work drinking a Rockstar Juiced. ...not b/c I'm tired, but because I'm so bored, being a little caffeine-jazzed won't hurt. It might even make me feel more productive. Ah!! *snerk*Hahahahahahahah*gasp!*HAAHAHAHaahahaha! :D Where's that ROFL icon again? ;)

If anyone here likes techno/goth metal, my friend DJ Frequency (Symphony of Me) just came out with another set of tracks... I'm asking where I can d/l or buy a CD but in the mean time, they're playable here. (http://www.myspace.com/djsinagony) Yes, I can be an outlet for my friend's shameless self-promotion, too.

DrBee

10-01-2006, 02:43 PM

Great pic BMo3! Send along a happy b-day to your son for me!

We're always happy to listen. :)

Bikingmomof3

10-01-2006, 02:47 PM

Kit- gravity will get them everytime, regardless of size. Luckily you have time of your side. I gave up all hope years ago. Thank goodness for support bras. ;)

Kitsune06

10-01-2006, 03:20 PM

I can only hope I age as gracefully as the "old hippies" I managed to spend a good chunk of my life with. They're beautiful women despite the fact they have easily 30 years on me. Maybe there's something to this 'glamour' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glamour) thing after all.

Lise

10-01-2006, 04:19 PM

Here's my 1/2 marathon race report! http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=10630

B3: What a wonderful picture! You and your son are beautiful. Him in a manly way, of course. Your mom....sorry. :( :mad: Many people have children without ever having the ability to really be grown ups. (((Jennifer)))

And now, the date report. Not bad, but not great, no sparks. We talked about
1. What a hard time he has sleeping sometimes.
2. He asked about my tri/running training.
3. Politics. He must've said 4 times "I'm not a conspiracy theorist", but he certainly has some conspiracy theories! We're on the same side of the political divide, but no, I *personally* do not think that Mr. Bush/ The Republicans are trying to bring about The Rapture/Armagedon by creating war in the Middle East.

Then, at the very end, he told me that he'd just gotten a contract to consult for a big company out in the suburbs on a three month project. Then he pointed out that this meant he would not be available during the day/during the week as he'd originally thought. Given that he lives >1 hr away from me, we'd talked about getting together on my days off. At this point, I thought, "fine, I don't really want to see you again, anyways. This is an easy way out." Polite leave-taking, little smooch, "let's see if our schedules will work out", etc. I drove home thinking, that was a completely un-romantic evening, and just as well that he's not going to be available.

Then, today, he writes saying what a nice time he had, and that he'd like to see me again when we can coordinate schedules! :confused: I think I'm going to say, "...feels more like a friendly than a romantic connection..." etc. in an email. Tomorrow. Because tonight I'm wiped out, congested and achey from my "allergies", which are obviously a cold :rolleyes: , and I want to be thoughtful about it.

Supposedly have a coffee date with the Southern Gentleman tomorrow. He was going to call me tonight to arrange it, hasn't done so yet...but I'm going to bed and turning off the phone. I'll call him back tomorrow if he calls me and leaves a message tonight.

Kitsune06

10-01-2006, 04:41 PM

Interestingly...
I've heard everything from the war in the middle east not being to 'bring armageddon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon)' ...er... not directly, but to secure America's access to oil-producing areas in the world so when we hit "peak oil" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil) and beyond, we still have control over said areas...
...the idea that we really invaded Vietnam because they're the only oil-producing country
...to the idea that conservative america doesn't care about the environment b/c when we destroy the world, Armageddon will happen, and the righteous will be saved anyway
...to the idea that HAARP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAARP) pulled Katrina north into Louisiana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_theories_regarding_Hurricane_Katrina), and because much of the damage was to poorer neighborhoods (who would've voted liberally) efforts were focused elsewhere
...some people *really think* the world will "end"(or polarity will shift) at the end of the Mayan calendar at 2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar#2012) (as evidenced by the fact that all pyramids follow a near perfect 'sine' wave around the earth, and sciences have reached states of great advancement... then have been wiped out... etc etc
...this is going on too long. I know more 'conspiracy theories' than I thought. Anyway... yeah. It's all out there. I feel like a nut for knowing this stuff. Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.

Sorry he was a nut, Lise. Sounds like there are easily better fish in the sea to be caught. :D

annie

10-01-2006, 05:14 PM

You've got a very good-looking son, Jennifer! Hope he had a great BD. (And you had a good day, too!)

annie

winddance

10-01-2006, 06:39 PM

Congrats on finishing your 1/2 marathon, Lise! I hope you feel better soon.

Bikingmomof3

10-01-2006, 06:49 PM

Thank you for the BD wishes for my son. :)

Lise- Congrats on the 1/2 marathon. I am sorry you are achey and congested. Feel better soon. It sounds as though Mr. Faraway can stay faraway. Hopefully coffee with Southern Gentleman will go really well.

Kitsune-I do like the Scot definition of glamour.

KnottedYet

10-01-2006, 07:28 PM

Annie - Flossie is named Flosshilde after one of the Rhinemaidens. I think Kitsune posted some links she found to them. Anyway, my Flosshilde is named after the Rhinemaiden in "Expecting Someone Taller" by Tom Holt. Which is a very funny book, by the way.

It was a stream-of-conciousness as I was falling asleep, it made marvellous sense at the time, and suits her beautifully.

I've gone on 4 rides so far (around 160 miles) and she has gotten admiring comments on every ride. She's beautiful. When I get her new tires on and have her all adjusted, I'll post a pic.

Might make her my avatar.

KnottedYet

10-01-2006, 07:39 PM

Lise - ewww, you had to kiss him? Ick. yeah, let's focus on Southern Gentleman.

(umm, I just realized my "ewww" was undiplomatic. but ewwwwww! kisssing a man! ewwwww! yeah, I have a bias. but ewwwww!:D )

I hope Southern Gentleman is a gentleman, and doesn't have trouble sleeping or find conspiracy theories to be good first date topics. Asking you about your tri/running is an EXCELLENT choice of topic. A gentleman should talk about the lady, not about himself too much. And he should keep it light and entertaining.

You want me to give these dudes a little tutorial before they meet you?:p

Trek420

10-01-2006, 08:01 PM

KnottedYet "I just realized my "ewww" was undiplomatic. but ewwwwww! kisssing a man! ewwwww! yeah, I have a bias. but ewwwww!:D )"

yes, we don't mind Straight people as long as you act Gay in public ;) :rolleyes:

"A gentleman should talk about the lady, not about himself too much. And he should keep it light and entertaining."

perhaps tap dancing and stand up comedy? :cool:

"You want me to give these dudes a little tutorial before they meet you?"

Yes, Knotted will now lead the prerequisite course: How to Date Lise 101.

lesson one: how to return phone calls as promised.

salsabike

10-01-2006, 08:57 PM

For those of us in need of serious cute:

http://www.zooatlanta.org/animals_panda_cam.htm

Kitsune06

10-01-2006, 08:58 PM

Lise - ewww, you had to kiss him? Ick.
(umm, I just realized my "ewww" was undiplomatic. but ewwwwww! kisssing a man! ewwwww! yeah, I have a bias. but ewwwww!:D )

yes, we don't mind Straight people as long as you act Gay in public ;) :rolleyes:

:eek: I don't know you! Either of you! There are *very* kissable guys out there. Just ask, I'll tell you. I just get all creepy-shuddery at the thought of keeping them. ...then again, I'm sure there are some that don't need constant babysitting, either. ;)
Then again, it's hard to beat being the stud of the house. *adjusts tires and fixes cars and bikes and kills spiders just to prove her point*

Trek420

10-01-2006, 09:09 PM

salsabike "For those of us in need of serious cute"

awwwwwww, almost as cute as guys :D Kit, is that ok? *spits, adjusts crotch*

KnottedYet

10-01-2006, 09:15 PM

"very kissable guys out there"

And you ladies can keep them. I don't mind. Take my share, too.

Kitsune06

10-01-2006, 09:30 PM

KnottedYet

10-01-2006, 09:36 PM

awwwwwww, almost as cute as guys :D Kit, is that ok? *spits, adjusts crotch*

Trek, honey, you will ALWAYS be cuter than ANY guy!

KnottedYet

10-01-2006, 09:42 PM

Geez :rolleyes: am I out of the "colorful purple prose for ****" club now? omg, I think I have 12 of those. eek.

Trek- No, pandas are cuter than boys. Lookit those cute widduh faces!!!

Knot- I get more than my share of admirers, wouldn't be fair to take your share of the boys, too... ;)

Uh, I'm dense. what is the "colorful purple prose"? And if it's what I think it is, and you have 12, well, you spent yerself some serious money young lady! Money that could've been spent on Miz Cakes!

The boys all admire Flossie. Their gfs all admire ME. (hah! yeah, right...)

Kitsune06

10-01-2006, 09:44 PM

gawd. Please. TE (esp. TD) attracts some very sweet studmuffins. :cool:

and btw, Trek... I've seen lots of ladies spit and adjust their crotch. :eek: well... *Lady* is a stretch. Women. (CWR, when you come back, you'll see the inside joke) Some women aren't pretty; but the word handsome just comes out. whew! Warm in here! :o

Knot- for your post, which you'll surely delete, you're thinking the wrong thing. No way I'd buy a tool to do manual labor.

I PM'd you, even though I probably shouldn't have. :D

KnottedYet

10-01-2006, 09:51 PM

Knot- for your post, which you'll surely delete, you're thinking the wrong thing. No way I'd buy a tool to do manual labor.

That's a relief. I worried about you there for a minute. They are amusing, but 12 would be, um, excessive. And excessively expensive. (if you get the good ones)

And just to be contrary, I *won't* delete that post.

But I might delete this one.:D

Trek420

10-01-2006, 09:54 PM

KnottedYet "Trek, honey, you will ALWAYS be cuter than ANY guy!"

awwww, just don't delete that, I'll frame it. But I'll take it personal that I'm not cuter than a panda.

G'night TE TD :cool:

Kitsune06

10-01-2006, 10:04 PM

Whew! Gosh. :o I must be off to bed soon... it's pretty close to the end of my shift... 'night!

KnottedYet

10-01-2006, 10:14 PM

Gotta get to sleep, too. G'night y'all.

*we now return you to your regularly scheduled Thread Drift*

Lise

10-01-2006, 10:32 PM

Up, hungry, eating bagel and PB. Sweet kitty Isaac was sleeping, purring in my arms, when the thunder rumbled. He jolted, but stayed there in my arms, and calmed down with a few words. I love my baby kitties.

KN, I'll say only this: Good kissing comes in both genders. And I believe Kitsune was referring to euphemisms for water-retaining walls.

The Southern Gent. called right after my last post here, had a Starbucks suggestion for our first meeting, and the map up on his browser, in case I should be uncertain as to its location. Which was thoughful, IMO. So far, he laughs the best and most easily at my jokes. And the southern accent is charming. Meeting him after work for coffee...if it goes well, perhaps it will morph into dinner. I'll hope he knows how to have a conversation that is not about his (or my!) neuroses.

Going to eat my bagel, and hope to get back to sleep. Legs are pretty sore.

Sleep well, TD.

crazycanuck

10-02-2006, 03:12 AM

OMG...i have so much of TD to catch up on.

Lise, yóu're cool & what a woman. 1/2 marathon..:)

Lise, is the gent's accent really strong & can you understand him??? Conspirathy theories as a first date topic sounds interesting..

My dad & gf are here and so far we've had some fun. Visited a few beaches on friday, watched the AFL grand final on sat AND the right team won, went to the Caversham wildlife park today and blobbed one day.

About the AFL grand final-The West Coast Eagles from WA & the Sydney Swans battled it out...Oh my was it exiting and this was my first time to watch a whole game. My dad & susan knew when to cheer and said they enjoyed it...

I'll post some pics from the wildlife park...Did you know a group of kangaroos is a called a mob?

Now kids...We're heading off later this week to go to Margaret River for wine, chocolate and cheese hunting. Would anyone like some wine chocolate. If you do, pm me and we can work something out. BTW..if you have a mobile/cell phone you can text me...(remember kids..safe texting.,..you don't want little texts arriving next year..)

Ciao for now kids

margo49

10-02-2006, 04:06 AM

OMG...
Now kids...We're heading off later this week to go to Margaret River

Must be a very nice and pretty place with a name like that. Not surprising to find wines and chocs there too.

Selkie

10-02-2006, 04:12 AM

Actually, Margo is one of my favorite names and is on my "potential names" for my future dogs. I also love the name "Veronica."

Nanci

10-02-2006, 06:13 AM

salsabike

10-02-2006, 06:28 AM

Ugh. My poor sister has been stuck living in small town Georgia for years. She has the heart and soul of your basic liberal humanist. For now, she deals with it by teaching the psychology of diversity at a university there. She uses movies (like House of Sand and Fog) and makes them talk about all that stuff. I am convinced she's making some difference, and also convinced she will only be able to stand it for so long and then will have to get herself somewhere else where it's not quite so socially acceptable to be a racist.

Best you can do is refresh your memory of your own friends and neighbors who aren't, just to remind yourself the whole world isn't like that. But you sure have my sympathy. That's really really hard to take.

mimitabby

10-02-2006, 06:42 AM

I sent your DVD back today- Priority Mail, and sent you another one to watch. (Not IM)

I am totally traumatized by the people I encountered on my trip to south Georgia this weekend. I have never heard such horrifying racism in my life, just out in the open like it's not wrong. You guys wouldn't _believe_ the things I heard openly discussed.

Nanci
my husband spent much of 2004 and 2005 in Florida, Mississippi, Lousiana
and... another state because of hurricane damage.
He was not impressed with the racism either. At one point, he finally had to say to a guy, "you know, i'm not used to people talking that way, i find it pretty offensive" and it was hard for him to do that. He also found again and again
throughout the south, black businessmen having trouble getting contractors to fix their businesses, and being surprised when a white insurance adjuster actually could see that there was a problem.
It's very very ugly.
People say "Oh, the racism in the north is worse than that in the south, because it's secret" well, i'd rather not be called names in public..
then the whole servant thing! we'd go into restaurants where the wait staff was comprised of white kids and the bus "boys" were middle aged black people, nice, educated... and we knew they weren't getting 10 bucks an hour.. such disparity!

DrBee

10-02-2006, 07:14 AM

Having lived in both the south and the north (like many of us), racism certainly is everywhere. The things I've heard people say and the behaviors I've seen here in MS blow me away on a regular basis. Sounds a lot like what Nanci experienced. It's sort of like I've time warped back into the 50's. It's frightening. In the south I've lived in LA, SC, and MS. The racism manifests differently in each place. Each time it horrifies me. That never seems to change.

Bikingmomof3

10-02-2006, 08:15 AM

I am totally traumatized by the people I encountered on my trip to south Georgia this weekend. I have never heard such horrifying racism in my life, just out in the open like it's not wrong. You guys wouldn't _believe_ the things I heard openly discussed.

Nanci I am sorry. I have lived in MN, WI, WY, and now OH. Ohio was the first place I encountered racism, and I realize it is mild, compared to what I heard visiting Tennessee. I find it so dreadfully appalling and I am thankful I do not have to deal with it on a daily basis.

Nanci

10-02-2006, 09:31 AM

What I heard, just offered up in normal conversation, is unspeakable. A man was pointed out to me, The Oldtimer. He was said to take care of security problems, "If you know what I mean." The person went on to illuminate us as to just what this meant, killing and disposing of the evidence, and claimed that it had been done five or six times that the person had heard of. The Oldtimer is apparently contracted by businesses. It's like the friend was bragging about him. (Did you ever see the movies House of 1000 Corpses, or Devil's Rejects? Know the character Captain Spaulding? I had jokingly pointed out The Oldtimer to BF earlier, saying Captain Spaulding was here. BF immediately knew who I meant. Geez. And then I hear that.)

Then, in a much lighter vein :eek: a person who was talking to us about having arrived on a motorcycle, not in a truck, proceeded to comment that there were a lot more blacks on MCs now, and he liked to run all of them off the road. Different person.

Then there was the well-dressed 50ish woman who was talking about all the "zebras" running all over her neighborhood, and she wished there was a way to get rid of them. This was actually the first offensive thing I heard. I'm like, zebras, :confused: I don't get it, but continued to listen in, and then it became apparent what she was talking about. It made me sick- but I had no idea what more was to come!

And anything black in color eg a cow, a coyote, etc was referred to casually as a n-word cow, whatever.

Trek420

10-02-2006, 09:37 AM

It's not just there...I'm in customer service for big-mega-telco.-co. and our calls are mostly from throughout a Blue State.

I've told my manager one of these days she WILL get a report of a "customer mistreat" because I'm going to tell a customer exactly in no uncertain terms what I think of them when they say they:

are moving out of CA because there are too many ____ here or...

want to change their number because someone ____ had it before or...

the problem with this country is there are too many ___ s.

"those aren't my calls on the bill, it's listed to Mr Garcia, I don't have a gardener" "Mr. Moron his reference information says he's a proctologist, maybe he called you because he found your brain and you were returning the call?"

and...when they ask where I am I've simply stopped saying I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area because then they talk about the _____s

for some reason in the anonymity of being a stranger the phone some feel that everyone shares their moronic viewpoint. My response is usually shocked stunned dead silence, then I wait and see if they pick up on it, most don't.

Someday I'm just going to let it fly "sorry that you feel that way about imigrant people, that's a very interesting Native American name you have m'am. Since your family has always been here what tribe are the Van Vonderportens from?"

We're a nation of immigrants, some of us came here voluntarily, some not...but all different.

mimitabby

10-02-2006, 09:55 AM

kaybee

10-02-2006, 10:54 AM

Nanci, on behalf of all Southerners, please let me apologize for what you experienced over the weekend. Please believe that we are not all like that.

KB

mimitabby

10-02-2006, 11:05 AM

Nanci IS a southerner. THat's why we all know that you ALL are not like that :)

kaybee

10-02-2006, 12:06 PM

Good point! :D Maybe I should apologize for all Georgians? By the way, there is also plenty of what you experienced over the weekend up here in the northern part of the state. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in a time warp.

KB

Nanci

10-02-2006, 01:49 PM

I might live in Florida, but I am a Minnesotan!! I guess that means Midwesterner.

Nanci

10-02-2006, 02:33 PM

And, at Six Gap, in Dahlonega, GA, (north) I never heard anything remotely racist. Of course, I was among cyclists.

Nanci

10-02-2006, 04:25 PM

For some reason, I never saw this film. It is EXCELLENT!!!

maillotpois

10-02-2006, 06:03 PM

however did you miss it, Nanci? fun movie for sure.

Brina

10-02-2006, 07:00 PM

wow, i have got to stop traveling. I go out of town for a few days and have to spend hours catching up on TD. okay, maybe I just need to learn to read faster.

trying to acknowledge those who contributed to the past 8 pages:

BMo3 - sorry your mother is being ridiculous. family - eeckkk your son is a cutie - how old did he turn? I didn't realize you also had twin boys - I have as well - they are 6.

kit - sorry the job is sucking so badly, and I hope one of these interviews comes through for you soon.

Lise, awesome about your race - great race report. Southern guy sounds interesting - I can't wait for mwbr (or, i guess for mtbr)

Nanci, not sure what to say about the racism. It is aweful to know it is out there, but in some ways, more aweful if people who oppose it are not aware that it is out there and therefore can do nothing to combat it.

I spent the weekend in Canada with dh and his family visiting their extended family. My dh's second cousin's husband took us winetasting one day. Based upon nanci's ravings I tasted and purchased some ice wine. It is yummy. Now, i just have to wait for the appropriate evening to open it.

Veronica

10-02-2006, 07:03 PM

Now, i just have to wait for the appropriate evening to open it.

Don't wait...life is short. Have it, just because. :p

V.

annie

10-02-2006, 07:54 PM

You never saw "Breaking Away", Nanci?? Wow ------ I am glad you finally did. It was a movie that introduced cycling-challenged people into a taste of the world of cycling. How 'bout "American Flyers"? Have you seen that one?

V - What you said.

You know, Lise, it's not really the age that matters so much. It's their outlook on life and how they want to live it and how close that approaches what you are looking for.

I was out hiking tonight. Found a lost/stray kitty on the trail. She followed me to my car. She is amazingly incredibly adorable!!! I brought her home. (The trail is not near any homes.) I will advertise in the local newspaper and radio station and try and find her owners. Someone must be missing this baby! She is gorgeous, she is well-behaved, she is relatively calm, she is loving. Would I keep her? Oh, Yes! But not from anyone who's been loving her. I did not realize how much I missed having a cat in the house. I think I didn't want to. So whether this baby stays or not, it wil have been a good thing. We _need_ a non-human friend here and it will happen in its own good time. What else can I say? :rolleyes: I have to believe that.

Stressful times at my home. (See- we NEED this kitty cat!) My DH is running for office. Election in November. He was unopposed in the primary, but has an opponent in the Nov. election. He has tons of obligations. I am trying my best to be a good politicians wife.............. UGH!!!! YIKES!!!!! Never something I planned on doing, but I know it's much more stressful for him. Still ............. the boys and I exist, right??? And we are deserving of some consideration, right??? Like we DO have lives and need to know what is expected of us, with a bit of notice so we can arrange our schedules? Okay, sorry, I should have warned of VENTING ahead. :confused: :( November 7 cannot arrive soon enough.)

Have a good night, Td'ers.

annie

Lise

10-02-2006, 08:29 PM

First off, Nanci--WHOA. I did not know that was happening in this day and age. I mean, I could believe individual ignorant, cruel people, but in the open? Generally shared "it's OK to talk like this?" How do black people take it? How terrifying and demoralizing.

And now for something completely different...

The date with the Southern Gent was very fun! Coffee turned into dinner, and then he had to catch his train back out to the suburbs, so I drove him downtown, and was so nervous I almost got us killed....he said, "um, Lise, if we do go out on a date, would you let me drive?" in a cute way. I said, "you should probably always check out someone's driving on the first date, and then you'll know if they're a total maniac from the git-go". Now you've got me worried about Southerners. (kidding) He is funny, smart, and interesting, 6'2", nice looking, has hair (I like that), and wants to see me again! And I him. We'll make a plan for Sat evening.

I wrote to FarAway guy with my "feels more like a friendly connection than a romantic one" email. I realized I just really didn't want to try to pursue dating. Too much difficulty and oddness.

Aaaannnnd, I have a coffee date with the 62 year old tomorrow. My sister and best friend don't like the age thing--my sister said, "But he's going to die soon!" :rolleyes: He may need to cancel if his daughter goes into labor. He's on-call for taking care of his grandson. I did ask myself, "Do I want to date someone like my patients' fathers?" MWBR there, too.

Oh! The life and adventures of Lise!

Brina, welcome home.

Annie, the kitty sounds wonderful. If you don't find her owners, enjoy welcoming her into your home.

To bed!

KnottedYet

10-02-2006, 09:41 PM

got my "mad plaid" Terry skort today. The styling is a bit different than my old old "surfer" skort. Less skirt fabric, less skirt flap overlap, and the underlap is sewed to the waistband. MWBR.

The pattern is FAB-U-LOUS. I got incredibly eye-melting hot pink Terry socks to go with the eye-watering green/blue/yellow/pink plaid, and they do match. Yessss.

Had a Costco orgy this evening. Bought waaaay too much stuff, including season 2 DVDs of "House". We watched like 4 hours of it this evening! We like "House". I wanna be just like him when I grow up! (except I'll have a bike instead of a motorcycle)

Lise - southern gentleman sounds MUCH better than Mr. Faraway.

Nanci - when was in the midwest for a while, I was completely floored by the overt racism. Compared to Seattle, it was so shocking. I think Georgia would have really knocked me for a loop!

Kitsune06

10-02-2006, 10:00 PM

KnottedYet

10-02-2006, 10:20 PM

Kitsune06

10-02-2006, 10:27 PM

Kit, you're pretty dang funny. And quick, for so late at night. girl, I am falling asleep at the keyboard here.

actually, more gets revealed. The old old old skort has a complete overlap, so you have 2 layers in the front from hip to hip. (an overlap of a foot or so) The new one has an overlap of about 4 inches. Take a step, your leg plays peekaboo.

Actually, that could work to my advantage... ;)

(BTW, I had to drop down another size on my Levis. Yessssss! But I still weigh 150 lbs. i don't get it. but I look *fine* so who cares!)

Quick? I'm at work- I *have* to still be sharp. ;)

Careful, you use that skort to your advantage too much and you'll have poor Seattlites biking into trees and other stationary objects (I know from personal experience... not the advantage, the biking into things...)
and you're probably just maintaining weight in muscle mass, the same way I'm gaining weight but my pants are all getting a little looser.

Nanci

10-03-2006, 03:39 AM

I am making my current student memorize the six venomous snakes of Florida for his evaluation. It's pretty amusing seeing how many times I can bring that topic up in a day at work, and have him try to recite the list. Just one more way to make my job interesting.

No, I haven't seen American Flyers.

I _would_ like to see House from the beginning. I've just caught bits and pieces of it. That's all I need is another series to be addicted to. Currently I am into Reno 911, The Shield, Oz, Grey's Anatomy, and there's one more I can't think of...Oh, Nip/Tuck.

crazycanuck

10-03-2006, 04:24 AM

Nanci-tell me more about The Shield and Oz as i've never head of these two shows.

Why does the young man need to learn the 6 venomous snakes of Florida? Would you treat them after they'd been admitted?? How is your current student doing?

I too have not seen Breaking Away...I saw American Flyers years ago ..

Annie-I sure hope the kitty's ok. BTW-how do you manage with twins??? Also, is your hubby running for governor?

Brina-where in Canada did you visit?

I came home tonight and found a new mini stereo, wine glasses, regular glasses and a pot/pan set on my table-just a small gift from my dad whilst here.

Oh, my ss package arrived today. I knew very little about wisconsin prior to receiving the package. I sat at work working out where wisconsin was & was perty close too!!!

Off to bed

c

Bikingmomof3

10-03-2006, 04:28 AM

BMo3 - sorry your mother is being ridiculous. family - eeckkk your son is a cutie - how old did he turn? I didn't realize you also had twin boys - I have as well - they are 6.

Welcome back Brina and enjoy the wine. :)

Yes, I have identical twins, they will be 12 in a month. My oldest recently turned 14.
My oldest is my running partner, I love running with him, and he is often embarrassed to be runninng with his mom. :eek: We did manage a 2 mile cross country terrain run in 13:02! Okay, not fast for many, but I was very proud of myself. :D
Now I need to figure out how to get him to run on the road with me, rather then up and down hills and over tree branches, etc.,. I really want to work toward a tri.

Bikingmomof3

10-03-2006, 04:33 AM

Okay, I just cannot get into House. My problem is an odd one. I have watched Hugh Laurie (House) on British tele for so long, that whenever I see his character as "House" I see Bertie Wooste, from Jeeves & Wooster instead or the pampered prince from Black Adder, even his short part in Sense and Sensability. Although usually whenever I see him, my brain automatically "sees" Bertie Wooster. Anyone else like to read any of P.J. Wodehouse's novels?

See how I ramble without coffee? Must go find coffee.

Lise

10-03-2006, 04:38 AM

B3--you ran 2 miles in 13 min?! Over rough ground? Wow! Imagine how fast you'd go on asphalt!

CC--where's Wisconsin? Straight north of Chicago, of course! :p

Nanci--you crack me up. Looking forward to getting the package.

I loved Breaking Away. Didn't that come out a fairly long time ago?

And on a sad note...what on earth is going on with this spate of shootings in schools? How incredibly tragic.

Bikingmomof3

10-03-2006, 05:15 AM

B3--you ran 2 miles in 13 min?! Over rough ground? Wow! Imagine how fast you'd go on asphalt!

Yes, I did. :) I am certain I could mantain that speed. I need a trainign programme, my son finds running on the roads to be "boring". :rolleyes:

And on a sad note...what on earth is going on with this spate of shootings in schools? How incredibly tragic.

I was shocked when they mentioned how many ahd occured in just the past 7 weeks! :eek:

Brina

10-03-2006, 05:46 AM

Brina-where in Canada did you visit?

Eastern - Ontario province - Trenton and Kingston area. DH's grandfather was born and raised there and was traveling to the US on business when he met dh's grandmother and moved here. The rest of the family is still in Canada and still owns the farm where the family first settled when they immigrated from Scotland. It is fun to go back and see the kids running in the fields where generations of their ancestors have lived and worked.

Nanci

10-03-2006, 05:55 AM

Venomous snakes have nothing to do with x-ray- I'm just doing my little bit to educate people who are terrified of snakes because they don't know which are and are not dangerous. Here's my lecture:

Coral snake- the red/black/yellow one. Red and black, friend of Jack, red and yellow- kills a fellow. But all you really need to know is there is no scarlet kingsnake here, so if you see a red/black/yellow snake, it's a coral snake.

There are three rattle snakes in FLorida. Everyone knows what a rattler looks like. Timber, Pigmy, and Diamondback.

Copperhead- has a big triangular head.

Cottonmouth/Water Moccasin- if you see a snake in the water, or if a snake chases you- chances are it's this one- leave it alone.

I think if you get bit by anything besides the coral, there's an all-purpose anti-venin. The coral has a different kind of venom. It can potentially cause more damage.

KnottedYet

10-03-2006, 06:02 AM

I'll stay right here. No poisonous snakes.

School shootings. Why isn't the whole country outraged? (anybody see "Bowling for Columbine?")

Xrayted

10-03-2006, 06:21 AM

I am making my current student memorize the six venomous snakes of Florida for his evaluation. It's pretty amusing seeing how many times I can bring that topic up in a day at work, and have him try to recite the list. Just one more way to make my job interesting.

Oh, that is sooooo cool...er...mean. Kinda glad you weren't my CI. (clinical instructor) :D
By the way, what are the 6 on the list? I have a garter snake and his family that live in the corner of my garage every winter. We have an understanding, he keeps to himself and I don't run him over with the car. (Just kidding Nanci... I don't mind snakes, used to play with them when I was a kid.)

And on a sad note...what on earth is going on with this spate of shootings in schools? How incredibly tragic.

I wish I knew what went through people's minds on this stuff. Yesterday, was a bad day here in Lancaster County. I still can't wrap my mind around it.
My Aunt Rebecca called my Mom last night trying to get the "english" point of view. Rebecca is Amish, new order, allowed to have a phone and car - she and her now late husband, Amos, adopted 3 of my cousins when they were babies. So, yeah, I have Amish relatives. It's an incredible culture. (As a matter of fact, both my parents speak PA Dutch - my Dad didn't actually learn English until he went to school. Not Amish, just that was the prevalent farm language back then. I speak just enough to have them "trust me". As I mostly grew up in FL, I'm pretty sure I'm the only Dutch speaking person around here with a slight southern drawl. I still haven't figured out how to say y'all in Dutch. :cool: )
My Mom calls me as soon as I walk out the door of the hospital last night to talk about it all. That woman really likes to rehash stuff until the bitter end. Little did she know I had just had a few "talks" with some of my Amish patients during my shift. Just kinda put me over the edge emotionally. After I hung up, I totally lost it on the way home. Crying jag the whole way.
No matter what this guy thought his reason was, there is just NEVER a reason to EVER hurt children. Such a tragedy.

OK, rant over. Getting off my soapbox now...

Now that I've bummed y'all out... on a lighter note, my bike told me her name this morning on our ride. I guess she felt I could stand a break. So it's... Sweet Pea. She's green and cream colored and I think she's just gorgeous. But, I believe she needs a new saddle. Hers just isn't quite comfy. I guess one one these days I'll get around to posting a pic.

Anyway, thanks for listening and have a wonderful (and safe) day ladies!

Cindy

Nanci

10-03-2006, 07:05 AM

Wow, Cindy, sounds like a horrible day. I used to do a lot of trauma- 10 years in Minneapolis. Another very bad thing is when a cop gets shot.

Wouldn't you rather be memorizing venomous snakes than doing tap water enemas???

KnottedYet

10-03-2006, 07:41 AM

nanci - I saw that as I was shovelling food and coffee into my mouth, and thought it said "tap dancing enemas". I started feeling very sorry for your students just then! :eek:

Trek420

10-03-2006, 07:59 AM

KnottedYet "thought it said "tap dancing enemas". I started feeling very sorry for your students just then! :eek:"

now there's a mental image I'll try to get outa my head. Ewww.

Ok, dog's been walked, picked up the recycling she artfully arranged in the patio. Off to Dermatologists to have him look at a mole, then to work.

Nanci

10-03-2006, 08:05 AM

The Shield: (Four Seasons out on DVD- Still running)

The story of in inner-city Los Angeles police precinct where some of the cops aren't above breaking the rules or working against their associates to both keep the streets safe and their self-interests intact.

(This describes the first season)

Creator Shawn Ryan's uncompromising police drama pushed the limits of basic-cable permissiveness, bridging the relative discretion of NYPD Blue and the HBO liberties of The Wire. Without exception, these 13 episodes justify their hype, focusing on pugnacious detective Vic Mackey (Michael Chiklis), whose amoral Strike Team employs dubious tactics in the crime-ridden (and fictional) Farmington district of Los Angeles. Mackey and his maverick partners are at odds with seasoned detectives and beat cops, escalating tensions with precinct Capt. Aceveda (Benito Martinez), a Latino with flexible scruples and a political agenda.

The series invites viewers to form their own judgments regarding Mackey's volatile behavior, which includes killing an undercover cop in the electrifying pilot episode. While each episode stands alone as groundbreaking drama, the arc of the series incorporates Aceveda's campaign to end Mackey's career; the self-loathing of a homosexual rookie (Michael Jace) whose partner (Catherine Dent) is Mackey's occasional mistress; a straight-laced detective (Jay Karnes) yearning for respect; Mackey's compassionate attempt to rehabilitate a crack ***** (Jamie Brown, giving the season's finest guest performance); the autism of Mackey's young son and the recklessness of his closest partner (Walton Goggins); and the vigilant stoicism of Det. Wyms (CCH Pounder), who's as sensibly upright as Mackey is corrupted.

Teeming with gang-bangers, perverts, rapists, and killers, The Shield is unabashedly adult; even liberal viewers may flinch at plots involving child pornography and serial murder. Chiklis deservedly won an Emmy for maintaining the series' delicate morality; Mackey's a hero squirming in his own ethical quicksand. This daring edginess makes The Shield unique, and generous DVD supplements explore Ryan's creative impulse. Two featurettes offer behind-the-scenes overviews, while the all-episode commentaries allow extensive insight from every member of the series' principal cast and crew. Audition tapes prove that the cast was primed for ensemble excellence, and deleted scenes further demonstrate the series' challenging ambiguity. The Shield is excellent TV for those who can grasp its complexities; all others beware. --Jeff Shannon

Oz: (Six Seasons)

OZ chronicles the attempts of McManus (Terry Kinney) to keep control over the inmates of Em(erald) City as well as the drug trade and the violence. There have been many groups of inmates during the run of the show and not everybody makes it out alive. There's the gangstas (Adebisi, Wangler, Redding, Poet, Keene, Supreme Allah), Muslims (Said, Arif, Hamid Khan), Italians (Pancamo, Nappa, Schiebetta), bikers (Hoyt), Aryans (Schillinger, Robson, Mark Mack), Christians (Cloutier, Cudney), Latinos (Alvarez, Morales, Guerra, Hernandez), gays (Hanlon, Cramer) and a whole pile of others (the O'Riley brothers, Keller, Stanislovsky, etc.). And there's a great "everyman" character called Beecher who gives a good look at a normal man who made one tragic mistake. Besides the regular inmates, there's guest stars such as Method Man, Luke Perry, Master P, Treach, etc. and a bunch of prison staff doctors (Dr. Nathan), a nun/psychologist (Sister Peter Marie), a bunch of guards some honest, some crooked and of course the warden Leo Glynn. The whole thing is narrated and held together by inmates Augustus Hill, who provides the show with some context, some sense of theme, etc. and ties everything together really nicely.

Nanci

10-03-2006, 08:08 AM

I went to the dermatologist for my yearly check up last week. He was IMPRESSED by my effective use of sunscreen considering my major sun exposure while cycling. So- I use Neutrogena cooling spray 45 on my back, chest and face, and Coppertone pump spray 30 on my legs and arms.

Bikingmomof3

10-03-2006, 08:48 AM

Snakes-I am terrified of them and cannot tell one from another. I also have 3 boys who like them. My question, if there is a snake gracefully swimming in my creek, is it dangerous? See, my thinking is yes. I really fear snakes, because I have no way of identifying them. We did not have this issue in Wyoming. Anyway, do cotton mouths live in southwestern Ohio? When I first moved here the largest snake I had ever seen was chasing a toad across my patio.

School Shootings-I am just sick over how many there have been in the past 7 weeks, and completely sickened by yesterday's shooting. All I can do is pray for the victim's and their families.

Update to my previous post- I meant to say I could not maintain that speed for a longer distance.

Finally-quick complaint-My new medication makes my HR lower than usual and really pulls my BP down (it was already low). So when I exercise all my "times" are off and I am wondering if I need to recalibrate everything or if my HR will eventually adjust to this darn medicine. I take the medicine in the middle of the day so I can lie down for a few hours. If I am up and moving, I will pass out. Ah the joys of my life.

Nanci

10-03-2006, 09:08 AM

Distribution & Habitat

A. p. leucostoma is found from the eastern half of Texas, across the southern states of Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, into Georgia, north to the western Tennessee, western Kentucky, southwestern corner of Indiana, southern Illinois, southern Missouri, and eastern Oklahoma.

Cottonmouths are rarely found far from a permanent water source, such as a slow moving stream, edge of a lake, pond, swamp, or even brackish tidal estuaries. Throughout much of their range, they are found in open flatwood pine forests or bald cypress swamps.
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Behavior & Diet

Cottonmouths have an undeserved reputation for being aggressive, but in actuality, they prefer to flee from a threat if given the opportunity. If cornered, they may gape their mouth, but will generally only strike as a last resort, or if harassed or physically provoked. In behavioral tests at the University of Georgia, it was found that only 13 out of 36 test specimens actually bit when provoked.[1] Only 7% of snake bite cases in the state of Texas involve cottonmouths.

Another common myth about cottonmouths is that they "nest" in large groups. This is untrue. Cottonmouths are solitary creatures, and if there is more than one in an area, it is either breeding season or simply that the habitat is such that it can support several animals.

Frogs, fish, small mammals, other snakes, birds and even carrion make up the cottonmouth's diet. They generally will not pass up an easy meal, so even fish on stringers may be taken. In order to consume fish and frogs, they are quite able to bite under water.

Nanci

10-03-2006, 09:15 AM

There are three venomous snakes in Ohio: Timber Rattlesnake, Massagua Rattlesnake, and Copperhead. So- the snake swimming in your creek is probably safe. Oh, and Copperheads are nocturnal. So- if it has rattles- poison. If it is a big, heavy-bodied snake with a copper head- poison. (Though the Copperhead has no rattles, it may rattle its tail like a rattler to fool you!) (Like scary baby Choco!!)

Oh, the non-venomous snakes will all have round pupils, and the venomous snakes will have eliptical, vertical pupils. Like most people get close enough to look for that :-)

Isn't that simple?

Bikingmomof3

10-03-2006, 09:20 AM

No mention of Ohio. So what species of snake is in my creek? Do most snakes like being under water? I should take his/her photo. The snake is very graceful and usually just pops his/her wee head up. The creek flows into a lake (I am guessing, since the water if flowing somewhere), so the snake is not always there. I have never seen more than one at a time. The snake that was chasiing the toad was completely different from the one in the creek.

Bikingmomof3

10-03-2006, 09:23 AM

There are three venomous snakes in Ohio: Timber Rattlesnake, Massagua Rattlesnake, and Copperhead. So- the snake swimming in your creek is probably safe. Oh, and Copperheads are nocturnal. So- if it has rattles- poison. If it is a big, heavy-bodied snake with a copper head- poison. (Though the Copperhead has no rattles, it may rattle its tail like a rattler to fool you!)

Thank You. :)

(Like scary baby Choco!!)

Even I find baby Choco adorable.

Oh, the non-venomous snakes will all have round pupils, and the venomous snakes will have eliptical, vertical pupils. Like most people get close enough to look for that :-)

Isn't that simple?

Trust me, I have absolutely no intention of getting close enough to view the pupils of any snake. My one twin was asking me to check the nose vents? I gave him the same response.

Nanci

10-03-2006, 09:37 AM

A snake that eats toads is probably the Hognose snake. It can also play dead by rolling onto its back and laying there motionless. And if you roll it over right side up, it rolls back onto its back. It would be very rare for the Hognose to bite.

"Length 18-30 in. (46-76 cm.) A master of deceit, the completely harmless hognose can put on an act that will frighten the bravest of people. When first alarmed, this bluffer coils, flattens its head and neck to form a cobra-like hood, inflates its body, hisses fiercely, and strikes violently. The strike--usually made with the mouth closed--almost always falls short of the target. This act is so convincing that it often leads to the snake's being killed by its would-be victim.

These antics have earned the hognose such names as puff adder, blow snake, and hissing viper. If this first phase of the act fails to frighten off the intruder, the hognose resorts to "playing possum." When struck or handled, the hognose jerks convulsively, twists over on its back, and remains motionless. The open mouth, the tongue hanging out, and the apparent lack of breathing make a convincing picture--convincing, that is, until the snake is placed upright. Whereupon it promptly rolls over on its back again. It just can't be convinced that a dead snake shouldn't be on its back. After danger passes, it will raise its head, look around, turn upright, and go on its way."

I don't know about the creek snake. There are three Water Snakes in Ohio, plus the Garters and Ribbons who like to swim.

Bikingmomof3

10-03-2006, 09:48 AM

the hognose resorts to "playing possum." When struck or handled, the hognose jerks convulsively, twists over on its back, and remains motionless. The open mouth, the tongue hanging out, and the apparent lack of breathing make a convincing picture--convincing, that is, until the snake is placed upright. Whereupon it promptly rolls over on its back again. It just can't be convinced that a dead snake shouldn't be on its back. After danger passes, it will raise its head, look around, turn upright, and go on its way."

The Hognose snake sounds hysterical. I would love to see one play dead, from a safe distance, of course.

I can identify two snakes. The garter snake (grew up in MN) and the Coral Snake (when red touches yellow, you are a dead fellow).

Nanci

10-03-2006, 10:35 AM

The Hognose is on my list of snakes I really want to see. I hear they can be converted, in captivity, to eating mice instead of toads.

I wouldn't bet on correctly identifying a Coral Snake. That was my one snake I most wanted to see, of all. I was out trail running and saw a red/black/yellow snake crossing the trail, quickly. While I tried to remember the little saying, all I could think of was black and red, black and red- I was fixated on that! And the snake had black and red together. Meanwhile, it was rapidly disappearing- so I got a stick and flung it (gently, of course!) back into the trail, still couldn't come up with the correct saying in the heat of the moment, decided on pinning it down and grabbing by the neck so it couldn't escape while I tried to ID it. As I held it by the neck, it twisted toward my hand and made chewing, gnawing motions with its jaws. I finally decided that because it had a black tip of its nose, it was a Coral Snake. Of course, I didn't have my camera. I just looked at it a few moments longer, then set it down and said "Goodbye, Coral Snake" as it quickly rushed off into the leaves. _Now_ I know that it _had_ to be a Coral Snake, because all the others don't live in my area.

Now, depending on where you are, a red/black/yellow snake could be a Coral, Milk, Scarlet Kingsnake, Scarlet Snake...

mimitabby

10-03-2006, 10:42 AM

hey Nanci
don't copperheads swim? I saw one 1,000 years ago, when i was a child,
very big snake swimming fast.. in New Jersey.

seems it was a bright yellowbrown!

Bikingmomof3

10-03-2006, 10:46 AM

I did not realize so many snakes could look like a coral. I shall continue trying to stay far away from snakes. I shall view/admire them from a safe distance, preferably through photos or on Nature. :)

mimitabby

10-03-2006, 10:46 AM

not to change the subject (I love wildlife)

Have any of you tried the Hershey's extra dark new series?
one with blueberries the other with macadamia nuts and cranberries?
It is really good and doesn't taste anything like a Hershey's bar, quite SERIOUS for chocolate. it's in most normal supermarkets.

I am sickened by the happenings of the world. Unfortunately, as the world shrinks, we are exposed to news from around the world. If we only heard the news from a 50 mile radius of our house (as far as a fast runner could reasonably go in a day) we would really be happier..

So although I think our political issues are currently going downhill, i do not think Humanity as a whole is going downhill.

you have to take the good with the bad.
the good: TE forum
the bad: news from everywhere.