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Duck on Wheels
03-02-2010, 06:35 AM
True, but there's a bit more to it than that.

Lower economic class = less education, less knowledge about options.
Also, without financial support, a woman often feels she has no where else to go.

Yeah, but even wealthy women can lose so much self-esteem that they can't see the way out. F'rinstance, a news item in Norway lately is an investment banker appealing his conviction for repeated rapes and beatings of wife and lover. Neither of them reported it until the police, while investigating the guy on a corruption charge, came across his letters to the women apologizing to them for these rapes and beatings, took these letters to the ladies and asked about the back stories. Now he says the women're just being vengeful and made it all up, and that somebody planted the letters (including the drafts of the letters found on his hard disc). He's the one with the money and lawyers. Who knows? He may still get away with it.

On the up side, sometimes even poor women can be resilient and resourceful, thank goodness.

Not that I'm saying economic unfairness doesn't matter. It does.

Duck on Wheels
03-02-2010, 06:36 AM
A fur hat that won't get you in trouble with the animal rights crowd:

http://www.sol.no/klipps/video/dette_skjer_hver_eneste_kveld

bmccasland
03-02-2010, 06:43 AM
A fur hat that won't get you in trouble with the animal rights crowd:

http://www.sol.no/klipps/video/dette_skjer_hver_eneste_kveld

That's amazing! :D:eek::D:p Good thing she has the towel turban.

OakLeaf
03-02-2010, 06:51 AM
Yeah, but even wealthy women can lose so much self-esteem that they can't see the way out. F'rinstance, a news item in Norway lately is an investment banker appealing his conviction for repeated rapes and beatings of wife and lover. Neither of them reported it until the police, while investigating the guy on a corruption charge, came across his letters to the women apologizing to them for these rapes and beatings, took these letters to the ladies and asked about the back stories. Now he says the women're just being vengeful and made it all up, and that somebody planted the letters (including the drafts of the letters found on his hard disc). He's the one with the money and lawyers. Who knows? He may still get away with it.

On the up side, sometimes even poor women can be resilient and resourceful, thank goodness.

Not that I'm saying economic unfairness doesn't matter. It does.

Anyone remember Charlotte Fedders? It hasn't been all that long ago.

A woman whose husband is wealthy isn't necessarily wealthy herself... even if some or all of the money was hers originally. Economic abuse is a key factor of domestic violence.

And, a woman from a wealthy family may feel she has an image to protect, may never have heard her peers talking about being abused themselves, may feel even more isolated than poor women who have always shared such stories with their peers, and who have no class-status barriers to going to the shelter.

The story the OP linked to originally had to do with the attitudes of children, not the actual incidence of DV. Their opinions have as much to do with verbal abuse in the home, women's status in their schools and places of worship, and the general portrayal of women in the media, as with any specific occurrences in their homes.

Certainly economic stress is one of the stressors that can make a physical slap out of what might otherwise have been an insult. But it didn't create the power inequality in the relationship, and that's the root of the problem.

BleeckerSt_Girl
03-03-2010, 07:31 AM
A fur hat that won't get you in trouble with the animal rights crowd:
http://www.sol.no/klipps/video/dette_skjer_hver_eneste_kveld

This was our Jennie cat. Taking a nap on my stepson's head in 1999. :D
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2784/4404364662_8bd06b6523.jpg

Pax
03-03-2010, 08:20 AM
Lisa - I keep meaning to tell you, my niece adopted a dog and named him Bleeker (she has a thing for NYC). Every time she mentions him it reminds me of you. :D

Crankin
03-03-2010, 09:50 AM
I am beginning to hate my dentist. I feel like I am in a used car place when I go there. I have no allegiance to her, she took over the practice from the person I was seeing, although I had only been there about 4 years.
I have had very little dental work in my life. I go four times a year, as I do have periodontal concerns that I want to keep at bay. Both my parents had major gum surgery by the time they were my age. I have about 6-8 fillings. I had one "redone" with new materials 2 dentists ago, who also took over from another one that left for medical reasons. I liked her...
But both this new woman and the one before the one before just keep/kept harassing me to have all of my other fillings redone. I've done 2 or 3 more, but I really don't see the point. Nothing hurts. I go often enough that if an issue is developing, I will get it done. I have dental insurance, so it's not the money.
She kept doing the same to my DH, who has even less fillings than me. One turned out to be a bigger issue than she thought (again, he had no symptoms) and he had to go through 6 months of stuff, going to a specialists, etc. She is not an incompetent practitioner, but I want to be left alone.

Zen
03-03-2010, 09:53 AM
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/zencentury/badgerhat.jpg

OakLeaf
03-03-2010, 10:00 AM
Ack! Not badgers again!

bmccasland
03-03-2010, 10:03 AM
Crankin - can you get friends or family to recommend a new dentist?

And you're reminding me I need to make my appointment :rolleyes:

OakLeaf
03-03-2010, 10:53 AM
I'm pretty sure I'm going to need another crown before the year's out.

Thank goodness I really like my dentist. I just lucked into him.

Crankin
03-03-2010, 11:53 AM
Oh, I can find a decent dentist without any issue. I've had like 5 in the past 20 years... they keep moving or leaving, or I move.

I am going to think about it...

lph
03-03-2010, 01:00 PM
That badger needs a dentist. Badly!

BleeckerSt_Girl
03-03-2010, 02:02 PM
Lisa - I keep meaning to tell you, my niece adopted a dog and named him Bleeker (she has a thing for NYC). Every time she mentions him it reminds me of you. :D

Tell her I lived at 174 Bleecker St. (x MacDougal St.), top floor, when i was a little girl. :p

Pax
03-03-2010, 02:34 PM
Tell her I lived at 174 Bleecker St. (x MacDougal St.), top floor, when i was a little girl. :p

I'll tell her, she'll be very excited that I "know" a New Yorker. :D

Tuckervill
03-03-2010, 03:43 PM
Crankin, maybe they're concerned about the mercury? I know someone who had all her fillings redone because of her fear of mercury. There was a dentist in town pushing it heavily.

I have two "temporary" crowns in my mouth that I got when I was 16. (Parents never took me back for the rest.) Every dentist I've seen thinks they're fine, since they've been in there that long.

Karen

OakLeaf
03-03-2010, 06:30 PM
Trouble with that is, removing the fillings sprays pulverized mercury all over everything, you breathe in what you don't swallow. BTDT, no way around it when the old filling wears out or the tooth cracks.

Crankin
03-04-2010, 02:41 AM
It's not the mercury. It's that "the filling might wear out."

I got an email "customer service" thing from her and I said exactly what I said here.

Pax
03-04-2010, 06:36 AM
I'm really lucky with my dentist, when I asked her if we should start changing out my old fillings for new material, she said "they holding up fine, let's wait to change them until they're not".

OakLeaf
03-04-2010, 06:51 AM
That badger needs a dentist. Badly!

Not as badly as it needs a manicure!

crazycanuck
03-07-2010, 04:46 PM
Ello..

Hey Snap..Happy Birthday!!! :)

snapdragen
03-08-2010, 11:44 AM
Ello..

Hey Snap..Happy Birthday!!! :)

Why thank ye kindly! :cool::D

Trek420
03-09-2010, 05:53 AM
Belated Snappy b'day. :D

Duck on Wheels
03-09-2010, 06:09 AM
Did I miss the party? Belated Happy Birthday from me too, Snap!

crazycanuck
03-11-2010, 08:18 PM
:eek: it hit 40C today!!! :eek: I went for a ride early this morning but the heat hit me about 15km from home :(. I was desperate for shade & there isn't any on the bike path :(. I'm so glad for our reverse cycle air con :)

I had a peek at next week's temps & oooo..it's going to be 27C!!! I'm looking forward to some cooler temps so i can ride to uni. I wanted to this week but with temps around 37C, biking in the middle of the day without any shade just didn't appeal...

Crankin
03-17-2010, 03:40 AM
It's my day off, it's going to be 60 degrees, and I have a cold!!! :mad:
I have to miss my first group ride of the season, which conveniently is starting right by my house.
Oh well. It's an excuse to miss class tonight. I have to get better for tomorrow night. It's restaurant week and we are going to my favorite place in the North End.

Duck on Wheels
05-03-2010, 01:38 PM
I'm happy to report having had an idea "stolen". Remember when I proposed a bike ride "To H€ll and Back", or maybe it was "H€ll on Wheels"? Well, I mentioned the idea to a neighbor (the guy who invented "Trampe" [Stomper] the bike lift: http://www.trampe.no/english/), who mentioned it to the local chapter of the national bike club ... and next weekend they're gonna do it :D http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=327417146729 The head of the chapter sent me a special invitation to join, but it's still snowing out, too cold for me to ride. No way I'll be in shape for this by next weekend. It's 26 miles each way, and some serious hills :eek: Still ... if the sun is shining, if it's warmed up by that day, if my guts are in a good mood, then maybe, just maybe I'll tag along as "pigtail". After all, I can always cross-train the hills, and I can catch a train back.

NbyNW
05-03-2010, 08:56 PM
Hi all, I've signed up for a charity ride and put a link to my fundraising page in my signature. If I want the link to say something like "my fundraising page" instead of the literal url, how do I do that?

OakLeaf
05-04-2010, 03:37 AM
Hi all, I've signed up for a charity ride and put a link to my fundraising page in my signature. If I want the link to say something like "my fundraising page" instead of the literal url, how do I do that?

No dumb questions.

Type in "my fundraising page" or whatever you want it to say.

Then select that text and click on the WWW link icon above the text box (the one that looks like a globe and two links of chain).

Insert the URL in the box that pops up and click OK.

If you want to be sure of it, click Preview Signature and try the link from the preview pane to make sure it works.

crazycanuck
05-04-2010, 04:43 AM
I hate photoshop, scales (map) and computers..Thank goodness for smart architecture students in the computer/plotter lab...

It looks like i'll now be riding a red Titus..but not sure when..Interesting developments on that end :rolleyes: Gotta love distributors...

NbyNW
05-04-2010, 06:51 AM
Thanks, Oakleaf!

NbyNW
05-04-2010, 06:58 AM
It is snowing heavily and gusting 40 mph winds. This is really sapping my motivation today. To do anything.

----
Edit: this morning I was motivated to go out and buy a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine.

crazycanuck
05-04-2010, 05:48 PM
Nby-I hate to tell you this but when i lived in Edmonton, we used to get snowstorms in July....:rolleyes:

Those were the days...:o

NbyNW
05-04-2010, 06:06 PM
When DH got home tonight, I told him Christmas came early so I bought the trainer.

Christmas in July? No sweat. :cool:

bmccasland
05-13-2010, 05:03 AM
Kills the vacation budget for this year, but I'm a proud owner of a new central air conditioner / gas heater system for my house. Had to replace the former system as it's been repaired to the extent of it's life span. In this part of the muggy deep south, and the architecture of my house (ranch, not high ceilings), one just doesn't do without air conditioning :rolleyes:.

So now all I need is new patio furniture, an icy drink, and the vacation will be at my house! :cool:

crazycanuck
05-13-2010, 05:50 AM
Enjoy the air con! I guess down in the swampy south you need it!

Speaking of Evap air con...

There was a large industrial fire in a Perth locality this morning and I found something a bit off in one of the news reports I listened to. FESA (fire & emergency services Western Australia www.fesa.wa.gov.au) suggested that people in the area close all thier windows & turn off any evaporative air conditioning.

It's not summer, it just rained & we have nice cool temps...why would you have your evap air con on??? Why would they mention the air con at this time of year?

Odd..very odd...:confused::rolleyes: I had to laugh...

Nanci
05-20-2010, 05:51 AM
Hey you guys! Long time no see! I was hoping for some Floyd discussion, but can't find anyone, but I thought I'd just say hi while I was here. Hi!

Blueberry
05-20-2010, 05:55 AM
Hey you guys! Long time no see! I was hoping for some Floyd discussion, but can't find anyone, but I thought I'd just say hi while I was here. Hi!

Welcome back!! (I changed user names - was CA_in_NC)

I'm surprised there's been no Floyd discussion - I'm disgusted. And I'm not sure what the benefit of trying to smear Armstrong is to Floyd. I actually thought he (Floyd) was clean:rolleyes::rolleyes::confused::(:mad:

crazycanuck
05-20-2010, 06:10 AM
OoooooooooooOOOOoooooo :D Hey Hey Nanci!!!! :cool:

I received news today that my new mtn bike bike bike bikeeeeee's on the way.!!!! Weeeeeeee...:D

Now to complete 4 assignments...:eek: within the next 2 weeks...

Oh joy, my fri night reading's going to be "the city of cockburn's R codes" (r codes-residential codes...) as we're to do a response for a planning submission..

BleeckerSt_Girl
05-20-2010, 08:33 AM
Hi there Nanci, good to see you here!

Nanci
05-20-2010, 09:23 AM
Hi...it's difficult to lure anyone into Floyd talk over at cornsnakes.com!

Biciclista
05-20-2010, 09:35 AM
yeah, that's probably true.

Nanci
05-20-2010, 09:42 AM
But I'm just as disturbed by the official 2012 Olympics mascots (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/vancouver/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/London-unveils-creepy-looking-mascots-for-2012-O?urn=oly,242206)...

kelownagirl
05-20-2010, 05:03 PM
Nanci!!!!:D:D

Fredwina
05-20-2010, 07:14 PM
It would help if they had two eyes. apiece

salsabike
05-20-2010, 07:58 PM
But I'm just as disturbed by the official 2012 Olympics mascots (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/vancouver/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/London-unveils-creepy-looking-mascots-for-2012-O?urn=oly,242206)...

And well you should be...eeewwwww.

Got any snake pictures to post on Thread Drift?? Or, Isabel?

shootingstar
05-21-2010, 07:30 AM
Those 2012 mascots..must have been a marketing team trying to mold children's imagination for the future.

Anything with 2 eyes would have been better. Actually some litlte children will be freaked out. There was an article in local paper of employees who wear the stuffed mascot costumes here in our city (and not just 2010 Olympic mascots)..It takes a special person to do it often.

Some kids do get freaked out.

Biciclista
05-21-2010, 09:33 AM
they look more like bottle openers than mascots to me. WHAT were they thinking?

Nanci
05-21-2010, 10:55 AM
they look more like bottle openers than mascots to me. WHAT were they thinking?

That's not what they look like to me...

Trek420
05-21-2010, 11:09 AM
WHAT were they thinking? They are just wrong, and on so many levels of wrongness :rolleyes:

Zen
05-21-2010, 02:36 PM
I thought kids chose them???

Trek420
05-21-2010, 03:07 PM
That's not what they look like to me...

I just don' wanna know what they look like to you :p ;) :D :p Let's not get TE TD closed.

The "pants" on the "guy" on the left remind me of the whole debate about http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=30201

Zen
05-21-2010, 03:45 PM
Plankton, from SpongeBob-
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/zencentury/plankton.jpg

snapdragen
05-21-2010, 06:09 PM
That's not what they look like to me...

I see one-eyed sperm.... :eek::rolleyes:

Xrayted
05-22-2010, 11:23 PM
Hey! I see yer all still talkin'. :D

Things have been hectic around here, waiting for word on Kit getting accepted into her clinicals this year or having to reapply next year. Took Ito'san to the vet this morning. He started liking me again tonight. :rolleyes:

Kit sold her car a few months back because she didn't really like it and we never drove it. (she got what she paid for it, so it was a good deal) Today, we took her to look at a cute little Chevy Tracker and she drove it home. :D It needs a bit of work, which we can do some of it ourselves.

Otherwise, we're entering trauma season at work so things get busy this time of year. I'm on the evening shift these days so I get off work at 11:30pm. I don't ride bike to work anymore because I have to ride through some very secluded, dark, park areas alone. I just don't trust it. Too many cars sitting along the pulloffs at night. I will have to find some time somewhere to ride. I miss it.

I'll be able to be on here more soon. The car situation will make it easier for us to negotiate our spare time instead of running places twice to drop off/pick up the other or taking the (OMFG, where is it, I'll be late) bus or my sloooooooow *** on a bike.

Okay, off to bed for us. Kit has to work tomorrow and I have a car to detail. :)

Selkie
05-23-2010, 03:12 AM
That's not what they look like to me...

I thought the same thing, Nanci. ;)

katluvr
05-27-2010, 01:35 PM
Really now...just what were they thinking? :eek: Very strange indeed. There will be just a few jokes about them! (Just a few, I think!)

k

Xrayted
05-28-2010, 07:32 PM
So.... the other day in the ER, I had an order for chest xrays on a 20 yo patient. She was complaining of chest pain and shortness of breath. I go to get her and she wasn't there. The RN said she would be right back, she walked up the street to the store to get another pack of cigarettes. :confused:

Tonight, I had a patient complaining of abdominal pain. I took xrays and was wondering what I was seeing exactly. It ended up being a bottle of pills that she forgot she put "up there". (yes, there) They belonged to her BF. He made her mad about a month ago, so she hid his prescription pills on him and forgot about them. The weirdest part of the whole thing? I've actually had that happen before with another patient.

Neither had insurance or thought to go see a doctor for cheaper treatment.

Just in case you are ever wondering why the ER wait is so long or costs so much, now you know. :rolleyes:

crazycanuck
05-28-2010, 08:19 PM
OMG..what a bunch of idiots! :rolleyes: Some people are just...not with it..

Sticking a bottle of pills inside you..ooookk..

6hr tomororoowww.weeeeeeee :)

Zen
05-28-2010, 08:40 PM
Someone needs a new purse.

Xrayted
05-29-2010, 12:15 PM
Ahem.

Kit got her acceptance letter today. She is going to be doing her clinical internship for the radiography program at this hospital...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdVfyt-mLw


She's very happy and excited. I haven't been able to think straight or walk right all day since we checked the mail. :D:D

crazycanuck
05-29-2010, 01:34 PM
Way coolio Kit!!! Wahooooeyyy!!! *clap clap boogie dance*

We're off to play at a 6hr mtb event...can't crash too hard as I have papers due...

snapdragen
05-29-2010, 03:48 PM
Way to go Kit!!

Xrayted
05-29-2010, 05:21 PM
Ah well, I guess I have to take the ol' ball 'n chain out for dinner now. It never ends, does it? :rolleyes: It's interesting... there was a lady in one of her math classes last year that she became friends with and exchanged books with, blah, blah, blah... that lady applied to the radiography program this year too. She volunteers at the hospital Kit will be a student at. They've been talking and that lady had one of her interviews where we work. It turns out... Kit got into her hospital and she got into ours. Essentially, they've switched places. They both had the idea to ask for someplace new so they could experience more. :D So, she will be one of my students in the fall. Kit has already informed her that I would be glad to haze her as a freshman and put her through the ringer for 2 years. :p



Hey Pax!!! This is for you. You know why.... ;);) :D:D:D:p

http://www.laughparty.com/funny-pictures/Screw-you-kitty-966.jpg

OakLeaf
05-30-2010, 05:48 AM
All right Kit!

bmccasland
05-30-2010, 06:33 AM
Snap - thanks for the warm fuzzy pic. I could use a good giggle this morning.

Xrayted - could we send that photo to BP?

This oil spill nonsense is just making me sick. And I'm not tasked to be out there cleaning it up, or trying to quantify the impacts. Yet. :eek:

kelownagirl
05-30-2010, 09:44 AM
LOL, love that pic...

And congrats to Kit!!!

Xrayted
05-30-2010, 11:59 AM
so crunching numbers here, trying to figure out how much more $$ we need for her to be full time instead of part time. we may have to partake of the loan thing but we'll see how much we will get for full time financial aide. She's been getting part time up till now. She's always had extra left after paying the school. We hope it goes that way still but doubt it.

she will need to drop her part time job at the hospital at some point this summer. all of my current and former students have had to do that for at least the 1st year.

crazycanuck
05-30-2010, 08:37 PM
Tis Monday.

My thought for the day..La lalalalalalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Weeeeee.

That's all folks :o

bmccasland
05-31-2010, 04:51 AM
:eek: Kitty cats do not like lightening bolts striking nearby in the wee hours of the morning. They do not, they do not. :eek: Nothing quite like a thunderstorm moving through at 4 am.

It's a good thing I don't have to go to work today, I'm going to need an afternoon nap. :rolleyes:

Xrayted
05-31-2010, 11:04 AM
I'm working today. Kit had to work so I signed up in my dept. I hope it's quiet today. No one likes spending a holiday in the hospital.

Have fun kids and stay safe. :)

Zen
05-31-2010, 12:53 PM
isn't this a good day for getting drunk and breaking bones?

Dogmama
05-31-2010, 01:14 PM
isn't this a good day for getting drunk and breaking bones?

Isn't Memorial weekend #2 for DUI's (just behind New Years?)

OakLeaf
05-31-2010, 01:46 PM
Apparently it's a good day for stabbing bicyclists (http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-05-31/story/two-bicyclists-stabbed-jacksonville-one-critical-condition). :(:(:mad:

No mention of the guy being drunk. But his father narc'ed him out.

kelownagirl
06-04-2010, 05:33 PM
Drifting into thanks.

Four years ago, I started riding a bike and soon thereafter, I found TE. With your encouragement and vast knowledge, I slowly learned the ropes and you were always hear to answer my constant questions. Then two years ago, I began to dabble in triathlon and again, the ladies of TE were there with knowledge, enthusiasm, and encouragement. On Sunday, I'm going to do my first Half Iron triathlon. I truly would not be doing this race if it wasn't for all of you, so thanks to you all!

Fredwina
06-04-2010, 06:27 PM
I'll be thinking about you. Let us know how it turns out.

OakLeaf
06-05-2010, 02:16 AM
Good luck kelownagirl! How exciting. :)

Gratitude meditation totally floated me through my first marathon last month. So IMO you're starting out on the right foot.

bmccasland
06-05-2010, 05:12 AM
Found out yesterday that my orthopedist called in more orders for continuation of PT for my knee, and I'm actually happy about it. Does that make me a sick puppy? :rolleyes:
I've tried to do my exercises at home these past two weeks, but it just isn't the same as going to the clinic and having Tony reminding you what to do next. That and I miss starting with those wonderful warm heating pads.

NbyNW
06-05-2010, 08:43 AM
I slept 'til noon today! I have my licensing exams Monday and Tuesday, hope I'll be awake for those :o

BleeckerSt_Girl
06-05-2010, 08:48 AM
Good luck to you Kelowna !

crazycanuck
06-05-2010, 05:17 PM
NB..what exam are you doing ???

We're off later on this afternoon to help as sweepers for an ultra marathon. I wonder how many of them did the comrades run(south african race..v v famous) the other weekend

NbyNW
06-05-2010, 07:15 PM
NB..what exam are you doing ???


Monday is Site Design and Tuesday is Grading & Drainage.

My poor calculator that I've had since high school has chosen this week to short out. I took it to the shop and it's definitely not the batteries :(

Sentimental value aside, I guess it was time for a new one!

OakLeaf
06-06-2010, 03:50 AM
I'm really trying to be good about not taking two showers in one day. (Even though I live in one of the places where water is still plentiful, it's still a waste of energy, and no I am NOT going to shower in unheated 55°F water.)

But if I take an evening shower, I just can't STAND myself by noon the next day. Yucky and crusty and greazy, ewwwwwww. So if I have an evening ride or gym class, it's either shower in the morning and go to bed sweaty, or shower late and be gross all day the next day. Ugh.

bmccasland
06-06-2010, 05:13 AM
I'm really trying to be good about not taking two showers in one day. (Even though I live in one of the places where water is still plentiful, it's still a waste of energy, and no I am NOT going to shower in unheated 55°F water.)

But if I take an evening shower, I just can't STAND myself by noon the next day. Yucky and crusty and greazy, ewwwwwww. So if I have an evening ride or gym class, it's either shower in the morning and go to bed sweaty, or shower late and be gross all day the next day. Ugh.

Run through the sprinklers like we did when we were kids? That way your grass is watered and you're rinsed! :p

I wouldn't go to bed sweaty, I'd take the shower. You could compromise - take a "navy" shower - water on, get wet, water off, suds up, water back on for the rinse cycle.

snapdragen
06-06-2010, 07:40 AM
I'm really trying to be good about not taking two showers in one day. (Even though I live in one of the places where water is still plentiful, it's still a waste of energy, and no I am NOT going to shower in unheated 55°F water.)

But if I take an evening shower, I just can't STAND myself by noon the next day. Yucky and crusty and greazy, ewwwwwww. So if I have an evening ride or gym class, it's either shower in the morning and go to bed sweaty, or shower late and be gross all day the next day. Ugh.

How about just a rinse off in the evening?

BleeckerSt_Girl
06-06-2010, 09:33 AM
Take really quick showers if you feel icky. They work well and don't use much water.
It's an art.... I can take one in 60-75 seconds- suds and rinse only the strategic parts, everything else gets a nice cool rinse off. Very refreshing!

Make sure you have a water economizer on your showerhead if you are into saving even more water. Have a low-volume flush toilet, or put a sealed jug of water in your toilet tank to cut down on the tank volume. Don't flush every little tinkle. Turn off the water while brushing your teeth. :)

Xrayted
06-06-2010, 09:45 AM
Share your shower with someone. ;) :D

NbyNW
06-06-2010, 10:02 AM
Recently stayed at a friend's place and she had a little timer (http://www.amazon.com/Minute-Shower-Timer-Conserve-Shorter/dp/B0028OWQPI) in her shower to keep it under 5 mintes.

Zen
06-06-2010, 03:27 PM
This weekend-http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/zencentury/P1000383.jpg


and at the same event in 25 years-

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/zencentury/P1000483.jpg

OakLeaf
06-06-2010, 03:56 PM
Oh, I do all that.

"If it's yellow, let it mellow ;)"

Quick rinse or washrag wipe before bed is probably the best option.


Zen, I'm missing something. :confused: Is it just how much alike they look? Are they mother and daughter? Or did that ride really take a lot out of the first woman? :D

Zen
06-06-2010, 04:23 PM
We look alike? :eek:

Nanci
06-07-2010, 05:13 AM
You could compromise - take a "navy" shower - water on, get wet, water off, suds up, water back on for the rinse cycle.

My dad wanted everyone to shower like that. Military shower. That's what we did in my old life when I had a motorhome, too. Here in Florida the groundwater is so warm you can easily shower in it if you're at all hot.

OakLeaf
06-07-2010, 05:32 AM
That depends so much on the plumbing... if it's the kind where you have to adjust the temperature every time you turn it on, I wind up wasting as much water fiddling with the temp as I would if I just left it on. Replacing faucets is a little farther than I want to go, until they wear out naturally.

I really like the showers they have at some campgrounds and school gyms - where you press a button for a few seconds' worth of water - but I suspect that there's a lot going on behind the scenes to keep the temp constant in the mixing valve, that would make it wasteful in a home setting.

Trek420
06-07-2010, 06:04 AM
Wrap your hot water heater in a blanket. Saves energy and keeps the hot water hotter so you waste less water and energy getting to the hot water.

So you've already done that ... Go tankless. With traditional hot water heaters you heat a tank of water which gets cold waiting for that one shower a day, then you go through the cold water to get to the hot water. Tankless heaters only heat the water you need.

Less energy, less water.

Zen
06-07-2010, 07:53 AM
On-demand water heater.
http://www.energysavers.gov/your_home/water_heating/index.cfm/mytopic=12820

BleeckerSt_Girl
06-07-2010, 08:47 AM
Share your shower with someone. ;) :D

I find that makes the shower last much longer, thus not saving water. ;)

Biciclista
06-07-2010, 11:19 AM
On-demand water heater.
http://www.energysavers.gov/your_home/water_heating/index.cfm/mytopic=12820

I have this. Initially you waste water because there is no tank, so you have to run the water until you get heated water. but once you get into the bath, or the shower, and you have your dishwasher going and your washing machine going, you can shower all day without ever running out of hot water.
Hm, that doesn't save anything....

NbyNW
06-07-2010, 12:09 PM
My exam today was in the "Jimmy Stewart" room, and there were a couple of nice pictures of him on the wall . . . which was oddly reassuring as I waited for the exam to begin!

Zen
06-07-2010, 12:13 PM
Mimi, i think you're doing it wrong

Trek420
06-07-2010, 12:54 PM
Couldn't we save water, energy and time by running ourselve through the dishwasher? ;)

Biciclista
06-07-2010, 01:06 PM
Mimi, i think you're doing it wrong

I hope you're joking. I know our system works fine.

OakLeaf
06-07-2010, 05:41 PM
Lots of water saved this way.

http://www.andruschak.net/image/dishwasher.jpg

Zen
06-07-2010, 06:26 PM
put the dog in the dishwasher!
Why didn't I think of that?

Xrayted
06-07-2010, 07:35 PM
Just use the showers at work.


Oh wait....... :o

Xrayted
06-07-2010, 07:44 PM
I have Fri-Tues off. Kit and I are going camping near Bend, OR. We are dropping off a neighbor to visit with some mutual friends who moved there last year, spend some quality time with everyone and then we are heading to the campground ALONE. Can't wait. :cool::cool: Only 3 more days of work until parole!! OMFG, I need a break. I've got PMS so bad lately. (People Make me Sick) :p

Selkie
06-08-2010, 12:03 AM
X---There is truth in the saying "Hell is other people." ;-)

The great Irony---from November until last Friday, I worked in an office that was an oven. Even after the facilities folks reconfigured the air vents, it was still overly warm. As a consequence, I couldn't wear any of my nice winter blazers/sweaters this year.

We moved to another building Friday. The greatest thing is that I have my own office again but it is like a walk-in cooler in the entire office suite. I prefer a cooler office, but this one is ridiculously cold. Even the men were complaining about it. So instead of wearing my sleeveless/shortsleeved summer tops, I have to bring a big chunky warm sweater to work. LOL.

And the worst of it? In the fall, we are likely moving back to the old oven office that we just vacated!

Zen
06-08-2010, 04:53 AM
are you a fed?

Crankin
06-08-2010, 09:07 AM
In my younger days, the word "fed" had very bad connotations.

Zen
06-08-2010, 01:49 PM
I thought that was during Prohibition.

Selkie
06-08-2010, 11:59 PM
I've been a Fed for more than 22 years.

Crankin
06-09-2010, 02:26 AM
Very funny, Zen.
In some parts of the country, I think they used the word narc.

kelownagirl
06-09-2010, 06:35 PM
14 more days with kids.

Xrayted
06-09-2010, 07:17 PM
ho hum.

scritch, scritch, scritch.






*sigh*

One more day of work after this. I'm going to go out of my mind just in time to afflict it on Kit in a tent deep in the woods. :o

kelownagirl
06-09-2010, 08:41 PM
Anyone have LOOK Keo pedals/cleats? I'm thinking of switching because I've been having a sore knee when I bike longer distances and the LBS guy suggested a pedal with more float. The ones I'm looking at have 9 degrees of float and have a non slip cleat which is good for walking/running (in a tri).

I guess I'm wondering if you found the switch from regular SPD's difficult or not.

crazycanuck
06-10-2010, 01:31 AM
Kg..sorry I don't have Look pedals..

whine alert

K...Is there any danger for a normal healthy person who hasn't dropped dead yet, to have to have a pap smear? I really can't be bothered visiting the dr for one...nothing abnormal on my last one...Do we really have to have them every year???

I have another thyroid blood test due in 2 months so i'll go then...

Whine over

lph
06-10-2010, 01:48 AM
Anyone have LOOK Keo pedals/cleats? I'm thinking of switching because I've been having a sore knee when I bike longer distances and the LBS guy suggested a pedal with more float. The ones I'm looking at have 9 degrees of float and have a non slip cleat which is good for walking/running (in a tri).

I guess I'm wondering if you found the switch from regular SPD's difficult or not.

I recently put Look Keos on my road bike instead of the Shimano mtb spd's I was using, and have started using separate road shoes. Maybe you can get shoes with more recessed cleats? because the ones I have have a HUGE cleat which is pretty impossible to run in. Walk, ok, though a bit ducklike. And they do have a non-slip layer of rubber, but it's wearing off like it was made of sugar.

They were easy to get used to though, but I still find it a bit of a bore to flip the pedal every time before clicking in, happens a lot in city riding. Otherwise I can't say I've felt a huge difference. The shoes are a bit narrow for me, so especially one foot easily feels a bit cramped and starts giving me twinges. With the right shoes I'm hoping the Keos will be better for long-distance riding.

OakLeaf
06-10-2010, 02:48 AM
USA standards for pap smears are every three years if you've had I think two normal ones in a row.

I've only ever ridden Look/Look compatible since 1987, so I can't comment on switching. In 1987, there was Look, the Look-knockoff Mavic that I had, and Time, which "looked" and worked just similar to Look but wasn't compatible in size and shape.

Getting into it is pretty similar to getting into a toe clip. You don't have to flip the pedal over; it hangs in entry position. Just slide your toe and it clicks right in. If you should miss and send the pedal spinning - which does still happen to me sometimes - that's when you have to stop the pedal from spinning before you can get in, but you still don't have to "flip it over," you just have to make it stop spinning.

I guess compared to metal cleats they do wear quickly, but having never ridden anything else, I just consider the cleats a wear item. I get about 3K miles out of the right cleat - the one I unclip at stop signs - and twice that from the left. I don't use cleat covers, and considering how much of the wear obviously happens when I'm unclipping just one foot, I'm not sure how much benefit I'd get from covering them (other than keeping mud out of the cleats).

They are NOT easy to walk in though, and I can't recommend running in them at all. I'm not sure how much it's the cleats that are slippery, and how much it is that they just protrude from the shoe. If your shoe has the little rubber walking pads at toe and heel, that helps a lot, but still, if you're on any kind of uneven surface or stairs, you're going to be balancing on nothing but the cleat, and it doesn't have a lot of traction. So I don't know how big the transition areas can be ... but I guess they wouldn't be my first choice for tri shoes.

kelownagirl
06-10-2010, 04:17 AM
Kg..sorry I don't have Look pedals..

whine alert

K...Is there any danger for a normal healthy person who hasn't dropped dead yet, to have to have a pap smear? I really can't be bothered visiting the dr for one...nothing abnormal on my last one...Do we really have to have them every year???

I have another thyroid blood test due in 2 months so i'll go then...

Whine over

I only have to have them every 2 years because I've been clear for years and have no danger factors.

kelownagirl
06-10-2010, 04:24 AM
Hmmm, well for what it's worth, the pedals I have now flip so I'm used to that part.

Any there any other pedals/cleats with float that aren't hard to walk in?

BleeckerSt_Girl
06-10-2010, 05:49 AM
Clipless pedal discussions on Thread Drift? What's the world coming to? :eek:

redrhodie
06-10-2010, 06:03 AM
Clipless pedal discussions on Thread Drift? What's the world coming to? :eek:

:D

Back adrift, my BF started his new job yesterday! It's been a long haul. He was laid off last Sept. The new job is with the same employer, in a new location. I'm back to being a restaurant widow. Don't get me wrong, at times I'll miss him, but right now, I love having the place to myself!

Crankin
06-10-2010, 09:17 AM
I finally found a pair of shoes to wear to Scott's wedding reception. I was desperate and went to Nordstrom's this morning. Between my miniscule feet, the fact that one foot is almost half a size bigger than the other, and a smallish bunion on the bigger foot, I was going nuts trying to find a pair of dressy sandals or sling backs. The biggest problem is that all of the dressy shoes had 5 inch heels. I even tried on some of those high, high heels, but I could barely stand up in them! I ended up getting a pair of alligator sling backs with 2.5 inch heels, that will have more utility than the silk sandals with the cheapie looking clasp.
Now I just have to prepare myself for meeting all of my DIL's family. I know I will spend most of the time next weekend with my mouth clamped shut.... I already told my other son that he will be my escape hatch!

Tuckervill
06-10-2010, 11:33 AM
I bought a new (used) RIDICULOUS pick-up truck:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/img_popup.jsp?car_id=279762692

It's RIDICULOUS for a grandma like me to own a truck that has silver stars on the wheels, but it was a good deal, and it's to go with my new business venture:

Tuckervill
06-10-2010, 11:36 AM
That's a wood-fired brick oven on a trailer. Those bricks you see are 114 years old--gleaned from the old smokehouse on my property. I'm making pizza. Yesterday, my son made banana bread in it, too. I'm going to learn how to make roasted corn, too. :)

Karen

Fredwina
06-10-2010, 12:12 PM
I suppose you could paint the wheels :)
what are you doing with business? catering?
another bicycling related q? two of my buddies are going to attempt a century(thier first), They've invited me along, but I'm not sure If I'll enough time this weekend to do it. thet'll be doing it solo(not part of an organized ride)

OakLeaf
06-10-2010, 01:07 PM
What a great oven! :D

Blueberry
06-10-2010, 01:58 PM
That's a wood-fired brick oven on a trailer. Those bricks you see are 114 years old--gleaned from the old smokehouse on my property. I'm making pizza. Yesterday, my son made banana bread in it, too. I'm going to learn how to make roasted corn, too. :)

Karen

When's the TE party at your place? ;);)

BleeckerSt_Girl
06-10-2010, 03:25 PM
Cool pizza business idea! :)


Things are busy at my house....music gigs and lessons, garden is exploding with lettuce and radishes, honeybees are multiplying like mad, patent jobs with deadlines coming in fast, can't even get time to ride my bike...! :eek: But I sure can't complain. :)

OakLeaf
06-10-2010, 06:29 PM
Send me some honeybees.

It's been almost two months since I've been back home and I have yet to see one honeybee. It's very upsetting. Even though I know beekeepers in the area have been getting hit by CCD for several years now, I never noticed a decline on my property, until now - and now, they're just gone. :(

Zen
06-10-2010, 06:39 PM
I have a feeling this summer is going to go by way too fast now that I have my kayak.

Tuckervill
06-10-2010, 06:57 PM
I'm taking my kayak to the Buffalo National River tomorrow. You may all now be jealous. ;)

Karen

Zen
06-10-2010, 07:59 PM
Mine (with me in it) is paddling the mighty Potomac River tomorrow. We are not jealous.
Life IS good, just like the t-shirt says.

crazycanuck
06-10-2010, 08:17 PM
Ian rang the Titus head office this morning about where my bike is. Apparently it's not the distributor's fault & the Titus factory is having issues...

Anywho....

My frame/fork has left the factory :D ANyone know the route fed ex uses to send packages from Arizona to Australia??? We don't have the tracking number.

I just want to get the bike sorted so I can train on it for a big 100km XC enduro in Semptember...

The saga continues :D

lph
06-10-2010, 10:07 PM
I have a feeling this summer is going to go by way too fast now that I have my kayak.

:) :) :)

The really great thing about kayaking, to me, is that "good weather" can be different things. Kayaking is great in hot, sunny weather, but it's lovely to be out on the water when it's cloudy and cool too, and light rain doesn't really matter much because you're getting a bit wet all the time anyway. I'm not very brave in wind and waves so far, but I'm getting there.

Nanci
06-11-2010, 02:51 AM
Send me some honeybees.

It's been almost two months since I've been back home and I have yet to see one honeybee. It's very upsetting. Even though I know beekeepers in the area have been getting hit by CCD for several years now, I never noticed a decline on my property, until now - and now, they're just gone. :(

I just read an article somewhere, of course I can't remember where- maybe a gardening magazine, about how the decline of the honeybee population has led to an increase in native bees who had been suppressed by the imported honeybees. If you Google "less honeybees more native bees" there are a ton of articles about how much better native bees are at pollinating, and about habitat conservation. I have a lot of sages/salvias planted around my patio to attract butterflies and hummingbirds, but I'm also getting lots of bees. Big fat bumblebees and these small tan bees that are about half the size of a honeybee, and very "furry." They are also very even-tempered and allow macro photography without retaliation!

Crankin
06-11-2010, 03:42 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't like bees? I think I freak out more from the thought of getting stung and possible allergic reaction (I have never had an allergic reaction to a sting, but since I react to all kinds of stuff, I worry) than I do from encounters with dogs on my bike or while running.

OakLeaf
06-11-2010, 03:55 AM
I HAVE had an allergic reaction to a sting. It was decades ago, and I was stung in the face and never saw what stung me, but it felt like a large wasp. I still carry an Epi-Pen everywhere. I've been stung by various bees and wasps several times since without a systemic reaction, but I don't take lightly the possibility that I might have another anaphylactic reaction (plus, I've reacted to an unknown food additive at a restaurant).

One of the most amazing experiences I've ever had was when a swarm of bees came through my yard while I was out working in my garden. I heard a hum without understanding what it was, I started seeing the bees in the leading edge of the swarm, then I was surrounded by these beautiful bees and this amazing sound. It was a mystical, spiritual few minutes as they passed into the woods.

On the native bees, I haven't noticed an increase, at least not yet. I never noticed a dearth of native bees here, either - in past years, when blooming trees have been laden with bees, honeybees were probably no more than 10% - likely a plurality as a species, but a small minority of the total. Whatever's left was plenty to pollinate my apple tree this spring - I've got lots and lots of little baby apples coming. :) But different flowers attract different bees - it's mostly been honeybees who've pollinated my squashes in years past, with contributions from a couple of other species around the same size. So we'll see. I often hand pollinate squash anyway, just because the flowers are open for so short a time and weather can interfere with the bees' ability to pollinate them. (Plus, I plan to save seed this year, my first time trying it with squash - so at least for one or two fruit of each variety, I'll need to isolate the flowers and hand pollinate.)

Do you know whether honeybees were originally imported to the USA just for honey, or was it because the native bees weren't doing the job pollinating the crops that the Europeans liked to grow?

bmccasland
06-11-2010, 04:44 AM
Do you know whether honeybees were originally imported to the USA just for honey, or was it because the native bees weren't doing the job pollinating the crops that the Europeans liked to grow?

We have native bees, then there are the imported ones. Native Americans were enjoying honey before white people showed up.

One thing I found interesting was that when I had an allergic reaction to something I ate, my Allergist had the lab run the Hymnoptera group (bees & wasps) as a known postive since we knew I was allergic to bees. It seems I'm not allergic to honey bees or bumble bees, but am allergic to wasps, especially red wasps. I thought if I was allergic to one I was allgergic to all of the group, but that wasn't so. Of course YMMV. :rolleyes:

kelownagirl
06-11-2010, 06:38 AM
I became allergic to yellowjackets in 2006. I've had the allergy shots for 3 years now and no longer have to carry an epi pen. I was stung twice last year wit no reaction at all. It is WELL worth the time and trouble to get the regular shots. Usually after one year you are clear but still get the shots every two months for up to 5 years after.

BleeckerSt_Girl
06-11-2010, 08:04 AM
I just read an article somewhere, of course I can't remember where- maybe a gardening magazine, about how the decline of the honeybee population has led to an increase in native bees who had been suppressed by the imported honeybees. If you Google "less honeybees more native bees" there are a ton of articles about how much better native bees are at pollinating, and about habitat conservation. I have a lot of sages/salvias planted around my patio to attract butterflies and hummingbirds, but I'm also getting lots of bees. Big fat bumblebees and these small tan bees that are about half the size of a honeybee, and very "furry." They are also very even-tempered and allow macro photography without retaliation!

Hi Nanci! :)

In addition to my honeybee hives, I put up nesting sites for native/Solitary bees as well. There are several thousand species of native bees in the U.S. They are beautiful and fascinating, and amazing in their diversity. They don't make honey, live solitary lives (not in hive communities), and they don't normally sting (unless you pinch or hurt them). They pollinate like gangbusters.
My nesting sites have attracted at least two species, possibly 3. And I have a box built specifically for leafcutter bees, though they have not discovered it yet. I am very much into providing healthy habitat for all kinds of bees. Solitary native bee populations are suffering as well as honeybees, but because of the loss of habitat and the over-use of both residential and agricultural pesticides and herbicides. They are not doing better now that honeybees are suffering...all bee populations are declining due to toxic chemicals being applied to plants, and habitat loss. I describe my native bee efforts here on my personal blog: http://strumelia.blogspot.com/search/label/mason%20and%20solitary%20bees

I now have about 60 tubes full of native bee cocoons which I will clean and store safely over the winter, to put out next Spring for them to emerge and go forth to pollinate and multiply again. This Spring I started with only 6 tubes full. Each 6" tube houses about 5-7 cocoons.

OakLeaf
06-11-2010, 08:23 AM
I became allergic to yellowjackets in 2006. I've had the allergy shots for 3 years now and no longer have to carry an epi pen. I was stung twice last year wit no reaction at all. It is WELL worth the time and trouble to get the regular shots. Usually after one year you are clear but still get the shots every two months for up to 5 years after.

I had the shots years ago, although not long after I completed the course was when they came out with the news that the old mixed hymenoptera serum was ineffective :rolleyes: and I never went through it again. But even when they thought it was effective (and before I had the reaction to the foodstuff), I was told that I should carry an Epi-Pen for life.

The way I look at it, even though it's been over 20 years since I had an anaphylactic-type reaction to anything, allergies can develop without apparent symptoms, and it's just a stupid thing to die of for want of a $40 prescription. I can make room for one in my seat pack and another one in my purse or hydration pack. (Although I confess I don't carry it on short runs ... and it was on a short run that I got the sting that I had the reaction to. :rolleyes:)

OakLeaf
06-11-2010, 08:36 AM
Best I could find (http://www.orsba.org/htdocs/download/Honey%20Bees%20Across%20America.html) on a quick google is that honeybees were imported for all three functions - honey, pollination of European crops, and wax.

Selkie
06-12-2010, 12:37 AM
I think the bad winter killed the ground bees that lived alongside our outside staircase. I looked forward to seeing them every year---never bothered you and were out only for about two weeks before they went back underground. They were a nice sign that summer was here.

Zen
06-13-2010, 03:54 PM
I'd like to see a "post like you're on Twitter" day.
One day a week, posts and responses would be limited to 140 characters or less.

Nanci
06-14-2010, 04:36 AM
I describe my native bee efforts here on my personal blog: http://strumelia.blogspot.com/search/label/mason%20and%20solitary%20bees



That's really cool! I have red wasps out at my patio/Fort Tort/water garden. We have this deal: you don't sting me, I won't kill you. I have read that they can be aggressive, but mine are not. When I sit in my rocking chair on the deck at the water garden, a red wasp will fly up, walk around on the deck, sticking her head into the cracks, and then finally crawl under. Last summer I had one that made her home in the solar lantern that hangs a foot away from my head, by the chair. I would check every evening to make sure Wilburina was safely in bed for the night.

BleeckerSt_Girl
06-14-2010, 05:58 AM
Wilburina....that's good! :D

It's always preferable to let nearby creatures live in peace to see how it goes.
'Most' of the time there are no actual problems.

Most people are shocked that I have two garden chairs set up right next to my two honeybee hives. But then they see that you can just sit right there next to the entrances to the side a bit, and watch the thousands of bees coming and going, bringing in pollen, doing their thing and just not interested in the clumsy giants sitting nearby. I love sitting and being inside the Hum Cloud...it's like being inside a circle of monks doing their OM chant. :) Very therapeutic, like meditation.
Plus, it always smells like beeswax just being near the hives. I love that sometimes my hair smells like a campfire from my smoker when I work the bees, and other times my hair smells like beeswax.

tulip
06-14-2010, 06:06 AM
I watered my entire front and back yards--perennials and veggies--with fish emulsion, and my whole corner smells like a stagnant bay. But my plants sure are perky.

Crankin
06-14-2010, 06:58 AM
I had like 2 hours of sleep last night and I feel like s***. The mocha at the bike shop yesterday sent my already hyper stomach into overdrive. Ugh.
I am sitting here in my running clothes and trying to make myself go out, even for a walk. Then, later, I am volunteering at the farmer's market in the next town, giving out discount coupons to people who arrive by bike (it's the first day of the market this year). I am planning to ride there, and hoping no t-storms come up for my ride home. I don't want to take the car, it's only 8 miles away!
I got through one chapter of my "Clinical Treatment for Addictions" text and that made me start to fall asleep :).
I think I am a bit nervous about the upcoming wedding reception...

DebW
06-15-2010, 09:00 AM
I've just returned from 5 days in Missouri and Arkansas to attend my Grandmother's funeral. She was 98, living alone until a couple years ago. She got to stay in her home until the end as she wanted, with the support of an excellent care-giver and a hospice system. I was honored to serve as a pall-bearer at her funeral. She will be missed but always remembered fondly.

kmehrzad
06-15-2010, 10:44 AM
I've just returned from 5 days in Missouri and Arkansas to attend my Grandmother's funeral. She was 98, living alone until a couple years ago. She got to stay in her home until the end as she wanted, with the support of an excellent care-giver and a hospice system. I was honored to serve as a pall-bearer at her funeral. She will be missed but always remembered fondly.

Sorry to hear of your grandmother's passing. Sounds as though she lived a LONG, healthy life to have made it to 98 years old and living alone at that (for the most part) and in the comfort of her own home. If we can all be as fortunate ...

Relish the memories of her.

Crankin
06-15-2010, 11:08 AM
Condolences about your grandmother, Deb. Most people our age don't have their grandparents still around, so she sounds amazing. The last of my grandparents died in 1997 and she was 92.
Yesterday I met one of the "older" members of the group I ride with. Two or three years ago I went on a ride he lead, when he was 85. He is now 88 and still riding, but according to him, "not so good on the hills now." :eek:

NbyNW
06-15-2010, 12:10 PM
I watered my entire front and back yards--perennials and veggies--with fish emulsion, and my whole corner smells like a stagnant bay. But my plants sure are perky.

I'm planning to do that later this week ... right before I go out of town!

Zen
06-15-2010, 12:29 PM
The last of my grandparents died in 1997 and she was 92.


My granny was in her 90's and lived on her own until her death. I really regret not asking her more questions about her life but I was young, self-absorbed, and just plain stupid.

Crankin
06-15-2010, 03:01 PM
All of my grandparents lived on their own until they died (3 were in their 90's). Well, my mom's parents lived with my aunt, but my grandfather was still working until the day he died, at age 91... his colleagues were waiting for him to go, so they could steal his accounts! Not kidding here, he told me this. He sold scrap metal and was the most financially successful he had ever been.
Zen, my kids "interviewed" my grandmother, when she was about 85. We have it on video. Although she was born in the US, she talked all about how her dad escaped from Russia, the czar's army, etc.
My dad is still going strong at 85, though I can't get him to stop smoking!

OakLeaf
06-15-2010, 03:59 PM
Deb, so sorry for your loss.

DebW
06-15-2010, 07:00 PM
Thanks for the condolences. Oddly enough, after the funeral I heard lots of family stories that my Grandmother never told, like how she almost died of a miscarriage, how her father killed a man in a pool hall and later shot himself, some inherited schizophrenia in at least 4 generations of the family (not my branch, luckily).

PamNY
06-15-2010, 07:16 PM
Deb, so sorry for your loss. The family stories are often fascinating.

Pam

Tuckervill
06-16-2010, 09:26 AM
Deb, I'm sorry for your loss.

My grandmother lived to be 100. Her father shot a man, too, for stealing a hog. When he appeared before the judge, the judge let him go, because my great grandfather had 9 kids and the man was stealing their livelihood.

It was a different time.

Karen

Crankin
06-16-2010, 10:42 AM
Yea, I found out lots of weird things about my family. One of my great grandfathers was the first Jewish policeman in Massachusetts. He was sent to quell the riots in Lawrence, MA (a big union-management thing, I think it's called the Bread and Roses riot) in the early 1900s, got his head bashed in, and never was the same after that. He died when I was 2, so I have no memory of him. One of my grandmothers grew up on a potato farm on Long Island; I found that out at her funeral and was shocked, because I only knew her as a very snobby fashionista, who still looked perfect when she died at age 91. Oh and the great grandfather who escaped from Russia, rubbed soap in his eyes, to get out of the Czar's army. It gave him permanent cataracts. My grandfather who worked until the day he died was a football and track star at Boston University in the 1920s. I didn't find out that he went to law school and never practiced because he flunked the bar due his poor handwriting until I was in my twenties. He refused to take the test again. I think I found out when he got invited to attend his 50th class reunion to get an honorary PhD!

Xrayted
06-18-2010, 12:02 PM
I have a job interview with another hospital next Fri. Right after 3 double shifts in a row on t/w/th. Anyone have any thoughts on how to look bright and fresh at 7am, without caffeine, after working from 8-midnight for three days? I'll take all sane suggestions. :)

bmccasland
06-18-2010, 04:03 PM
Make sure you get good sleep between shifts. If you get off at midnight, can you get home and to bed at a reasonable hour? At least get some sleep before your 7:00 am interview? Make sure you take a shower before you go - usually most folks look fresh after a shower no matter how tired they are, they just wilt later. Why not have a cup-of-jo enroute? And it is a hospital interview, so they should understand crazy shift work. Not quite like trying to get into something completely different, where getting off at midnight would strike them as odd.

NbyNW
06-18-2010, 06:41 PM
I have a job interview with another hospital next Fri. Right after 3 double shifts in a row on t/w/th. Anyone have any thoughts on how to look bright and fresh at 7am, without caffeine, after working from 8-midnight for three days? I'll take all sane suggestions. :)

Do you have time to ride your bike before your interview, maybe even a light 20-minute ride? That would wake me up.

lph
06-18-2010, 11:17 PM
Power nap, bike ride and cold shower. That would keep me awake and looking sane for a couple of hours at least.

Xrayted
06-18-2010, 11:58 PM
thanks for the suggestions. I can't do caffeine very well, hence the "without caffeine" thing. It gives me heart palpitations. So,that leaves out most energy drinks. I did take Friday off from my regular job so at least I don't have to do a full shift on top of it. I think the interview alone will just shoot me the rest of the way by itself at that point. I would be useless to my team so I'd rather use some vacation time, get healthy and relax for the weekend. We are camping that weekend too so I'll need to be feeling decent.

I am an x-ray tech trying for an angiography job at another hospital. I don't have any direct experience in that modality so I need to make a good showing. Yes, they know what it's like to do double shifts. I really want to show them that I can handle it. The fact that they know I've volunteered to do them should help my chances too. I won't have doubles back to back like that working for them, but I think if I can walk in there fresh as a daisy (at least visually :rolleyes:) after 3 in a row at a very busy trauma center, I can make a big impact on them. I'm probably up against someone who has experience or already works at their hospital. I'm the underdog in this dog and pony show, that's for sure. I've applied 5 times for angio jobs in the past and 1 xray job. I think my persistence got their attention. Normally, someone without direct experience wouldn't even rate a call or an email.

More ideas are welcome. No caffeine though. Tell me your secrets of looking decent after an all night bender or overnight study session or whatever.

Thanks and I'll let you know how it went when I wake up from my nap later that day. :p

crazycanuck
06-19-2010, 12:13 AM
X..if you need coffee for the hospital interview, at least you'd be in the right place if your heart went crazy...:o Ooops..did i let that thought out...:o
Good luck at the interview!:)

Ok, i'll take a deep breath and try to type properly........Guess what just arrived in Sydney & will be with me early in the week :D:cool: Weeeeeeeeeeeharrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooooooooo.... Almost 4 months of waiting is at an end. Ahhhhhhhh...:D

NbyNW
06-19-2010, 07:25 AM
Tell me your secrets of looking decent after an all night bender or overnight study session or whatever.


Oh, man. Since you've rephrased it THAT way ....

I just had a recollection of doing all-nighters in grad school and then having to present at 10 am the next morning. Basically running on adrenalin.

I would take a break around 8am, run home, shower, change into nice clothes, eat something. Then run back to school. I would keep light, healthy easy-to-digest snacks handy to get me through the morning. Yogurt, bananas, crackers. Pretzels & Nutella. Whatever gets you through. Then I would go home and crash.

It was not a healthy lifestyle, and I wouldn't recommend it for your interview. Except the part about keeping healthy snacks handy.

Good luck!

NbyNW
06-25-2010, 08:45 PM
Doing my first ever metric century tomorrow. Followed by my second ever on Sunday. Hope I'm ready for this!

Oddly my primary worry is that DH doesn't run into any trouble that permanently turns him off from cycling...

kelownagirl
06-27-2010, 04:48 PM
Hey how'd it go??? What was the occasion?



Doing my first ever metric century tomorrow. Followed by my second ever on Sunday. Hope I'm ready for this!

Oddly my primary worry is that DH doesn't run into any trouble that permanently turns him off from cycling...

NbyNW
06-27-2010, 07:09 PM
Hey how'd it go??? What was the occasion?

We were on a team doing the Ride to Conquer Cancer out of Calgary. Just got home a little while ago. We are tired and sore, but we had a great time! The route was beautiful, event was well-organized, and good spirit all around.

We probably could have done more to prepare for this ride, but we managed anyway. It was a pretty good jump in mileage for both of us. My personal goal was not to walk any hills ... and I think DH just wanted to finish and not be totally miserable! I think we were successful ;)

It was awesome to ride through the finish line with our team and to hear us announced and to be thanked for our fundraising efforts!

lph
06-28-2010, 12:17 AM
I just won a limbo competition. Well, the "competition" was 30 semi-sozzled party-goers and it was 2 in the morning, but still :D

I had no idea I could limbo. It earned me lots of attention too, which I certainly didn't mind ;)

Oh, and not to mention that I got a pair of pineapple glasses for my efforts.

bmccasland
06-28-2010, 03:46 AM
Oh, and not to mention that I got a pair of pineapple glasses for my efforts.

Pictures, we need pictures! :D:cool::D

Zen
06-28-2010, 08:32 AM
my find of party:p

lph
06-28-2010, 12:00 PM
Pictures, we need pictures! :D:cool::D

Oh. But of course.

Unfortunately there are no pictures of the limbo dancing. (I hope :eek: ;))

OakLeaf
06-28-2010, 12:39 PM
Those are fabulous. :D

Zen
06-28-2010, 03:23 PM
Those are fabulous. :D

That's exactly what i was going to say! Party on!

weaver.terrence
06-29-2010, 05:08 AM
Great pic lph!

crazycanuck
07-01-2010, 04:09 AM
Umm, I need some help w our friend that's gone a bit too far...:eek:

To make a long story short (am happy to make it longer if need be) our friend broke up with her ex a few years ago in a not so nice way. She's remained friends w her ex & often goes over to his house as he n his bro live in Perth (from nz). My dear called me the other day and told me she's been banned from thier house because she put bleach in her ex's new gf's tampons, shampoo bottles, soap etc. :eek: I'm not kidding about this....:eek:

We've helped our friend quite a bit over the last few years & know she's on depression meds etc...

What do we do?

Help!

Crankin
07-01-2010, 04:16 AM
This is serious. Besides the fact that it could be a legal matter, if the ex pursues it, she needs help. Who does she see for her depression? She needs a psych eval pronto. Does she have family members that you could enlist to help?
This is only my humble clinical counseling intern advice...., but CC, again this is serious. PM me if you want.

tulip
07-01-2010, 06:09 AM
CC--PM Crankin for sure. She knows what she's talking about. That's serious, bordering on criminal. Who knows what else she might do. Get some professional advice pronto.

BleeckerSt_Girl
07-01-2010, 04:40 PM
That's serious, bordering on criminal.

I'm pretty sure it is criminal. Imagine washing your face with bleach and getting it in your eyes.

What's next if nobody stops her?- bleach (or worse) in soda or water bottles?...

Crankin
07-09-2010, 05:50 AM
This is a random whine, but it is cycling related.
My exchange student son, arranged for us to buy team gear from his personal training/coaching company. I was very excited to have it arrive. DH went over with him many times, I wear an x small woman's size... he said, no worry, yes the clothes are for women.
What I got were men's size small bibs, with a woman's chamois inserted in the men's bibs and a men's size small jersey, with tons of elastic on the bottom.
I guess this is a good statement on how few women in Europe ride for fitness, although he should have known better, since he lives in Colorado most of the year, now. I called my son and told him the gear would fit him perfectly (he's a men's small), if he didn't mind the "women's chamois."

Eden
07-09-2010, 06:01 AM
What I got were men's size small bibs, with a woman's chamois inserted in the men's bibs and a men's size small jersey, with tons of elastic on the bottom.

I feel your pain..... our team gear is mostly men's sizing. (well - they have women's sizing but we can't offer both because we wouldn't make the minimums.... I think our shorts, though not bibs, are womens) Thankfully they go smaller than a plain small on the most important items, but even the xxs size is a little large on me. I am totally locked out of some things. All the long sleeve things (shirts - jackets - skinsuits) only go to small and are *huge*

NbyNW
08-26-2010, 09:48 PM
We are in Jasper for family vacation this week and by coincidence Lance Armstrong is also here to do a special ride with a bunch of folks who raised $25k each for breast cancer. This particular event was called Think Pink. The route was kept secret because they wanted to keep media and crowds to a minimum.

So I happened to be riding with a friend today when we decided to split up and meet down the road, since I had pretty much used up my legs and she wanted to continue on another 8 miles . . . the peloton came by while I was waiting for her, and boy was it exciting!

First an RCMP patrol car asked me to move over to the side a bit more, and then here came the peloton. The riders were all wearing yellow but Lance was in red. Got a little "hey" nod from Lance and lead riders!

There were maybe three dozen in the peloton, and maybe a dozen more trailing/dropped. I think it was towards the end of their ride, but all looked tired and happy. It was fun to just cheer on the riders and let them know they done good.

snapdragen
08-27-2010, 08:21 AM
Very cool NbyNW :cool::D

redrhodie
10-21-2010, 01:52 PM
You know your massage was good when you forget to leave the tip.

jelee1311
10-24-2010, 06:23 PM
I've never had one that good but I did leave the vet without paying the other day

kelownagirl
11-04-2010, 07:28 PM
You know your massage was good when you forget to leave the tip.

Are you supposed to tip? (seriously)

redrhodie
11-05-2010, 05:21 AM
Are you supposed to tip? (seriously)

I always (I guess mean usually :o) tip around 15%.

I'm curious to see what others say to this.

OakLeaf
11-05-2010, 05:43 AM
I tip 20% if the therapist works for a salon or bodyworks studio.

If they own their own practice, then I don't tip.

Might be different outside the USA, though. :confused:

crazycanuck
11-05-2010, 02:00 PM
It's only in the US kids...

BWAH AHAAAA i've never heard of such thing being done down this way...

Perhaps ONLY at a nice restaurant but otherwise no and they don't even think about it.

JennK13
11-05-2010, 03:00 PM
I get confused on tipping when it comes to "services". When am I "supposed" to, how much? We went on a fly fishing expedition this summer, it was $150 each, and then we were supposed to tip??? What the?? When we went white water rafting, it was mentioned that we were supposed to tip our guide? I guess I don't get why we're "supposed" to tip people for those kinds of things, especially when we're already paying a couple hundred for the trip itself. Now I worry that I was supposed to tip my snowboard instructor last season, or my bike fitter. I think it all started with the fast food restaurants leaving tip jars on the counters...now everyone thinks they're entitled!

Crankin
11-05-2010, 03:07 PM
Yes, you are supposed to tip guides on a trip. Especially the bike tour leaders. It's an incredible amount of work.
This year, the tour we took was with a small, Spanish based company, with owners who hail from the UK. They were fabulous. There were only 2 other Americans on the trip; the rest from Australia, Denmark, Canada. We did not tip the owner/leader, but we did tip the other leader, who was an employee. He was a poor, semi-pro cyclist who worked in the asparagus fields to make money. I know he appreciated it. If we hadn't brought it up, the others on the tour would not have tipped him. After we explained the rationale, they all were happy to do so.
The reason we tip in the US is that service people often get paid minimum wage (or less) and depend on tips to make a living wage, as opposed to EU countries, where waiters, etc make a salary.

malkin
11-06-2010, 05:54 AM
I tip 20% if the therapist works for a salon or bodyworks studio.

If they own their own practice, then I don't tip.

Might be different outside the USA, though. :confused:


Same for me, I'll tip in a salon or spa, but if it is a private practice marketed as a kind of health care, I don't. This came up when I was seeing someone who charged the same hourly as I do for speech-language therapy. I don't expect tips, and I don't tip health care providers.

jelee1311
11-06-2010, 11:39 AM
You should tip massage therapist, anyone working in a salon (hair, face, nails)
And especially a fly fishing guide they typically put up with a lot more than all the others combined(my friend is one the stories are pretty bad) and any other guide. I tip based on15 to 20% but also how good the service was truly was. I've been a waitress and work retail and I will reward good service. I don't usually tip instructors

crazycanuck
11-08-2010, 03:17 AM
SQUEEEEEEEEE :D SQUEEEEEEE :D Last paper of semester done :) Who knew that comparing Detroit- Glasgow & Beruit- Sarajevo could be so interesting! :) I was talking about creating equity in post industrial/fordist and post conflict cities. Man i hope it makes sense....:o

Now to study for two exams in the next two weeks..second one's going to be :eek::( :o

Weeeeeee...

OakLeaf
11-08-2010, 03:25 AM
Yay on the paper! Good luck on the exams, I know you'll do great. :)

snapdragen
11-08-2010, 02:15 PM
cc - I'm sure you've said before, but what are you studying?

Owlie
11-08-2010, 03:37 PM
Woohoo on the paper! And good luck with the exams, though I don't think you'll need it. ;)

crazycanuck
11-08-2010, 04:18 PM
Snap-Urban & Regional Planning..

Owlie...when i can't explain aquifers amongst other things for my Environmental and Coastal planning class, i am not relying on my beauty and good looks to ace the exam :p:o. Today is a blaaaururrughgruuuuu day but tomorrow, i start to seriously study for this one!

For our Governance for Planning class I have a hope! At least when our prof gave us the copy of the 2009 exam i didn't have a heart attack!

Owlie
11-15-2010, 08:44 PM
I have a sort-of job! I'm a chemistry tutor for a high school student. It's only an hour a week, but $20 is $20!

NbyNW
11-15-2010, 09:30 PM
CC, that paper sounds really interesting -- sounds like quite the accomplishment! Good luck on your exams!

Owlie, congrats on the tutoring job!

Crankin
11-16-2010, 02:56 AM
I registered for my last semester for my MA in clinical mental health counseling!
3 years ago, it seemed like a long time. But, it's gone fast. Funny, when I got my first MA, in education, it didn't seem like such a big deal. I guess the perspective of 31 years makes it different. Like they say, youth is wasted on the young.
Now I have to get a job...

tulip
11-16-2010, 03:07 AM
Congrats, Crankin! From what I've seen here, you will make a very good therapist.

CrazyCanuck--we gotta talk! My masters thesis in city planning was on post-war urban redevelopment in Sarajevo. I was fortunate to have spent 10 days there. That was in 1999, and the war was still quite raw. It's an amazing city. Your paper sounds interesting.

crazycanuck
11-16-2010, 04:20 AM
Thanks for the support on the exams. Today's was pretty good and able to answer almost all of the questions well. I think i stuffed up on explaining Development Assessment Panels

Crankin-I need a job too...noone wants me though :(

Tulip-I didn't know indepth about planning/governance in Sarajevo until I did this paper..Very interesting and will read more when i finish my exams. Fingers crossed my paper made some sort of sense..:rolleyes::o

Crankin
11-17-2010, 10:21 AM
CC, when do you graduate? Are there jobs available in your field, or might you have to move?
I have to work 2 years, full time to get the 3,300 hours for my license (and take an exam). My dilemma is do I go for a fee for service job, where I can have some flexibility in my schedule (i.e. time to ride my bike, maybe even have enough of Wed. off to do club rides) or find a job that is full time, entry level in a day treatment program, drug rehab, etc. where I know I can get my hours. Fee for service work means clients who cancel or no show all of the time. This is what I am doing now for my internship (well, not being paid) and I love it. There is a possibility the agency where I am now could hire me on this basis. I am pretty good with keeping the clients on track to reschedule if they no show or cancel. I am in a good position in that I don't need benefits, as DH has great ones and money is not an issue. I know I will never make as much as I did teaching, unless I open and have a very successful private practice once I am licensed, and I don't really think I will do that. My goal was to find a career that I love, where I could have a flexible schedule, allowing me to play and work until I am very old. As it is, I will be almost 60 before I am licensed. My goal is sort of to do the two years and then find maybe one or two places to do fee for service work 2-3 days a week. I feel like I am acting spoiled, as I have never worked in the summer in my life! This is what's getting to me. I think I could handle it, if I had even half a day off during the week. On the other hand, 2 years is not that long.
Oy.

crazycanuck
11-20-2010, 10:46 PM
Squeeeeeeeeeee :D Always nice to receive a message stating a paper was good.:D Find out the mark tues.

Studying for Tues' exam going well and glad i could listen to the lectures again!

Crankin-have 2yrs left & yes there are heaps o planning positions round western australia etc. I'm keeping an eye on these things but struggling to get early experience.

My dear's an HV power design dude/manager & is pretty much useful round the world-we're happy to venture off again! Won't consider the US/Canada as he won't make as much $$$$$$ as he does here.

back to studying.

Zen
11-21-2010, 05:34 PM
It's only an hour a week, but $20 is $20!

You're sure right about that.
I'll go you one further and say $1 is $1!
I got a filet o fish and a big Dr. Pepper today for a dollar (coupons)

Owlie
02-13-2011, 12:02 PM
Brilliant. Part of my bathroom ceiling just collapsed.:mad:

Catrin
02-13-2011, 02:51 PM
....have 2yrs left & yes there are heaps o planning positions round western australia etc. I'm keeping an eye on these things but struggling to get early experience...

Planning? What kind of planning? I am a transportation planner myself...

Crankin
02-13-2011, 04:05 PM
I missed this thread.

OakLeaf
02-13-2011, 04:19 PM
Aw, Owlie, what next?! Things have got to turn up for you...

crazycanuck
02-13-2011, 08:17 PM
It's not missing, it's alive!

Anywho..

Catrin, i'm just a second year planning student atm :o and there are gazillions of ideas of what I could do when i finish...:o

Owlie
02-14-2011, 04:54 AM
Hopefully something good will happen this week--fingers crossed for that interview!

On the ceiling front, the maintenance people are going to come out and look at it today. (We just got a call.) The good news is that the ceiling mostly consists of those horrible institutional ceiling tiles, and it was a relatively small area, so it shouldn't be too bad. (It also looks like the people upstairs flooded their bathroom or something...)

I'm trying to look on the bright side about the grad school thing. Program-wise, the school that's interviewing me is a better fit, I think. The program that hasn't said anything (but I can guess) is also largely Chinese students, which tends to be something of a red flag. (On top of that, the lab I did my senior project in was entirely Chinese except for the one Korean guy. The post-doc, the professor, and the undergrads were the only native English speakers in it. It was...interesting. I'm not sure I could take four years of that.) That guaranteed stipend and insurance would have been nice, though. :|

BleeckerSt_Girl
02-15-2011, 09:04 AM
I missed this thread.

Yeah, I hear you.
Dear So and So is a nice thread...but it's no TD. :cool: ;)

BleeckerSt_Girl
02-15-2011, 09:12 AM
Ok thread drift.....

I've started playing a wonderful but very challenging new bowed instrument, a tagelharpa.
Checked my two beehives this week during a brief warm spell- one very strong strong and active, the other is sadly dead. A new colony was already ordered for Spring though, just in case something like this happened. So they'll get installed into the deadout hive in April.
Work is hanging in there, with more jobs coming in than we expected considering the recession. Lucky!
The three kitties we had two years ago are now all passed on and we have two new adopted shelter kitties over the past year, both relatively young...Suki and Sheba. Lots of wild rumpus action around here.
and...enjoying the break from gardening while the snows fly! Pretty soon I'll order new veggie seeds. :)

BleeckerSt_Girl
02-15-2011, 12:00 PM
...and then there are those of us who remember OT:A :cool: ;) (R.I.P.)

Catrin
02-15-2011, 12:25 PM
It's not missing, it's alive!

Anywho..

Catrin, i'm just a second year planning student atm :o and there are gazillions of ideas of what I could do when i finish...:o


I actually didn't plan to get into planning, it just worked out that way after completing my Masters in human/social Geography :cool: I am, however, one of the tech people behind the scenes which is just how I like it :D

Blueberry
02-15-2011, 03:46 PM
...and then there are those of us who remember OT:A :cool: ;) (R.I.P.)

*sigh* I miss that one:(

Crankin
02-15-2011, 04:42 PM
I am not sure I remember that one. Was it before 2005?

I am sick of school. I have senioritis at age 57. About 12 weeks left and I feel like quitting! Of course, taking neuroscience my last semester is not helping. Even though we don't need to know all the stuff in the book, it is humbling. And the thing is, I am really interested in how the brain affects behavior and all of the mental illnesses I treat.
I keep thinking that I signed up for this when I could be doing nothing? I love what I am doing, but the whole thing is wearing me down. I am sick of traveling into the city for class, even just 2 days a week.
OK, my rant is over.

NbyNW
02-15-2011, 09:06 PM
I am sick of school.

Crankin, I hear ya.

Lately I really want to throttle all the well-meaning people who suggest maybe I should go back to school, since I'm having so much trouble finding a job in my current location. Especially for a program that would require me to relocate ("Maybe you should get an architecture degree." Like I can just go to the store and buy one. There is no architecture department within hundreds of miles of me, even if I wanted to, which I don't.).

I've got enough school. The problem may be that I have too much school. No, the problem is that I'm in a place that's wrong for me.

Meh. Enough about me.

Hang in there, you're almost done! It will be worth it.

Owlie
02-15-2011, 10:05 PM
I am not sure I remember that one. Was it before 2005?

I am sick of school. I have senioritis at age 57. About 12 weeks left and I feel like quitting! Of course, taking neuroscience my last semester is not helping. Even though we don't need to know all the stuff in the book, it is humbling. And the thing is, I am really interested in how the brain affects behavior and all of the mental illnesses I treat.
I keep thinking that I signed up for this when I could be doing nothing? I love what I am doing, but the whole thing is wearing me down. I am sick of traveling into the city for class, even just 2 days a week.
OK, my rant is over.

I hear you. My last semester, I took a microbiology class with an associated lab. Really interesting class, but I was taking it simply to meet graduation requirements, the lab was fun but toward the end of the semester got to be draining (big project), and on top of that I was taking a required programming class that was torture and trying to be a lab monkey at the same time. I spent most of the second half of the semester wanting to quit, and there was no commute save a 20-minute walk!
(Okay, I had other stuff going on too. It was not pretty.)

To be frank, I'm a little intimidated by the prospect of graduate school. I feel like I know nothing. I know I'll get the classes there (it's a specialized field), but I feel like I've forgotten the finer details of bio- or organic chemistry, even though I've had them beaten into my head for four years. Use it or lose it, you know? I did keep most of my textbooks from the last two years, so I have cell biology and two biochem books, but no detailed physiology.

Crankin
02-16-2011, 03:39 AM
Well, I've never not been in school.
Graduated in May (many years ago) and started my Master's the next January. Slogged through 3 years of night/summer classes (I could have been done in a year and a half) while teaching and generally enjoying the single life. Five years later, I started a PhD program, which had a 2 year full time commitment. I lasted from July until January! I had my kids, instead and kept working. But, as a teacher, I kept taking classes. When I quit my job, I had an MA plus about 100 credits over my degree. I was in a C.A.G.S. program (a cheap imitation of a doctorate for teachers) in Ed Leadership starting in 1999. In 2003, when I was ready to do my internship, I realized I did not want to be an administrator. By that time, cycling had taken over my life and I was not willing to give up all of my free time for a job.
The problem is, I like school, but I get sick of it just as easily. And this course is not the typical course for my program. But, this was the quickest way to become a therapist and one of the few careers open to me in a quasi medical field that didn't require tons of math and science.
Nwbye, there are no jobs in architecture. My DIL went to RISD and couldn't get a job. She manages a restaurant and is very happy!

Blueberry
02-16-2011, 04:45 AM
I am not sure I remember that one. Was it before 2005?

I don't remember the timing, but think it was more recent than that. I believe it was deleted by the admins at the request of someone or some people who had shared more than they decided was prudent in that thread....

But I'm working on a very fuzzy memory of exactly what happened - so that may not be right.

ETA: The full story is around post 11602 in this thread.

OakLeaf
02-16-2011, 05:15 AM
ETA: The full story is around post 11602 in this thread.

For some reason that just cracked me up. "Full story," "post 11602," not that I am any use at all when it comes to conserving space on the server. :rolleyes:

snapdragen
02-16-2011, 06:36 AM
I don't remember the timing, but think it was more recent than that. I believe it was deleted by the admins at the request of someone or some people who had shared more than they decided was prudent in that thread....

But I'm working on a very fuzzy memory of exactly what happened - so that may not be right.

ETA: The full story is around post 11602 in this thread.

Yeah, it was deleted at the request of the OP.

NbyNW
02-16-2011, 06:49 AM
Nwbye, there are no jobs in architecture.

Don't I know it! The economy is supposed to be relatively strong in Edmonton but that doesn't mean they have design jobs, especially not for a landscape architect. They have to source their biggest design work to out of town shops because the profession is so small here, and as I mentioned there's no school so they lack that as a resource to develop local talent. That's what I meant by wanting to throttle well-meaning people.

The city is in its final stages of a design competition to envision the re-use of the City Centre Airport. None of the finalists are local, although they are reported to have local partners but I can't figure out who they are. It's like some closely guarded state secret.

I'm glad your DIL found something that makes her happy. It's hard to make a change like that after all the blood sweat and tears that go into finishing a program like that. (In my case I also went through blunt physical trauma :eek: ) Especially at RISD, I don't think anyone half-asses their way through that place!

I may need to make a change but I don't know what that would be. I'm kind of thinking to let it happen organically, because making plans never seems to work.

BleeckerSt_Girl
02-16-2011, 07:26 AM
My younger daughter got a 4 yr college degree and came out of college in good shape with very little debt. No jobs in that field though, so she works in other jobs and manages just fine to pay her rent etc. She's a very positive go-getter. But then she was determined to get a masters degree, which she now has, but came out of that with a very large debt. :( Still no jobs available in that field. So now she'll have to pay that masters degree off for years to come, even though her actual jobs have totally nothing to do with that career field. :cool: I think sometimes that in this economy, degrees are not all they're cracked up to be. But still, it's 'good' to have a degree and have a good education for sure.

Catrin
02-16-2011, 07:32 AM
Tell me about student loan debt - I just graduated in 2003 with my Masters. I had no idea what level of debts I would leave school with...and they haven't gone down much since then :( However, I AM working in my field - though applying it in a very different way than I had anticipated. I love my job, I like my work environment, and all of that is worth a great deal. The degrees made this job possible, though ask me in 20 more years if the debt level was worth it.

Crankin
02-16-2011, 07:40 AM
I think it is, Catrin. It's just that in some fields, you need to be really sure, if there doesn't seem to be a lot of jobs.
My DIL has her degree in interior architecture. I have to say she probably could have had a job when she graduated, but with no parental support or guidance, was too afraid to move away or try something on her own. Don't get me started on the lousy parenting she had! She did design work free lance for a year, then worked for 2.5 years as an architectural apprentice at a firm in NYC. I cannot tell you how badly they treated her. It was almost like slave labor; she had to live at the Y! Finally, Josh told her to come home (after 2 years of a commuter relationship) and she fell into this job, just taking anything to make $; she started as a hostess and worked up to manager in about a year and a half. She is treated well and since they are going to be opening a new place, are having her help with the design.
So, for those of you in the area, go to Redbones!

redrhodie
02-20-2011, 04:34 AM
I watched the best documentary last night, on Showtime, about singer Bill Withers. If you ever wondered what happened to him, check it out if you can. It's called "Still Bill" and it's "on demand" in their movie section for Black history month. I actually watched it twice. I admit, I'm a huge fan, but I don't think you have to be to appreciate his story.

He's very cool. Here's the trailer:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Q2DFms1tA

lph
02-25-2011, 03:14 AM
Can't find the book thread.

Anyone read "Room"? I'm stunned. Stayed up breathless with heart racing last night instead of going to bed it was so engaging in the middle. It's inspired by the Fritzl case, but it's not a tragic, depressing story - well it is, but it's put sweetly and positively, really about being a mother in extreme circumstances, and the amazing adaptability of human nature. Bit like the movie "La vita e bella", just not so overwhelmingly Italian ;)

Just finished "The Help", too. And I loved "The Time Travellers Wife".

This is why I'm having trouble getting back to bike commuting. Taking the bus I can READ! :D

Trek420
02-25-2011, 05:14 AM
You could read on a bike. Drivers do it all the time. :eek: Why not us? ;)

lph
02-25-2011, 06:37 AM
har-har ;)

Just finished "Room". Amazing book. Almost like a science fiction novel. And I mean that in the best possible way! How would YOU feel if you one day found out the entire world as you know it is just a tiny little enclosed corner of the real world, huger and more complex and detailed and busy than you can ever imagine?

crazycanuck
03-04-2011, 02:09 AM
Weeeeehar!!! We have two very nice tickets for.....http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/4732130/NZ-to-host-superpower-ice-hockey-showdown

Fuuiuuuuuuunky!!! We were wondering when to visit family n friends this year in NZ & were going to go either before, during or after the RWC or the week of the CHOGM meeting here in Perth..(can you say..'shut down the %**$ city for a few days').

I hope we can pay a visit to Christchurch to support the recovery.

OakLeaf
03-06-2011, 09:35 AM
There really ought to be a word for my relationship to my first husband's second wife. "Friend" is nearly as inadequate in this context as it is when it's used to mean a life partner.

And that's not even considering that a lot of people in that relationship to each other aren't friends at all - far from it -

lph
03-06-2011, 10:01 AM
Stepwife? ;)

Trek420
03-06-2011, 03:46 PM
Family? ;) :)

emazingli
03-16-2011, 09:33 PM
I had a cheeseburger and onions rings for lunch!!!

Are you making your diet? LOL

Selkie
03-16-2011, 11:31 PM
Can't find the book thread.

Anyone read "Room"? I'm stunned. Stayed up breathless with heart racing last night instead of going to bed it was so engaging in the middle. It's inspired by the Fritzl case, but it's not a tragic, depressing story - well it is, but it's put sweetly and positively, really about being a mother in extreme circumstances, and the amazing adaptability of human nature. Bit like the movie "La vita e bella", just not so overwhelmingly Italian ;)

Just finished "The Help", too. And I loved "The Time Travellers Wife".

This is why I'm having trouble getting back to bike commuting. Taking the bus I can READ! :D

Did you hear that the person who was the inspiration for the Abilene character in "The Help" is suing the author? IIRC, the lady had worked in the author's home as a domestic during the author's childhood. She asked the author not to use her name (close variation thereof), etc., but the author refused.

"The Help" was a decent read. Right now, I'm savoring Mo Hayder's "Gone," so good I don't want it to end.

lph
03-17-2011, 12:47 AM
Did you hear that the person who was the inspiration for the Abilene character in "The Help" is suing the author? IIRC, the lady had worked in the author's home as a domestic during the author's childhood. She asked the author not to use her name (close variation thereof), etc., but the author refused.

Really? That wasn't very nice of her.

I liked these books so much I've bought them in Norwegian, to pass around to my friends. One of them complained yesterday that she was sleep-deprived because of sitting up late reading one of them :) Ooh, love it.

I'll look for "Gone"!

crazycanuck
03-21-2011, 11:54 PM
I have the lovely PinkBikes at my house today :)

lph
03-31-2011, 12:09 AM
Ok, so I'm easily amused, but I find it kind of funny when people wear clothing prominently displaying some sentiment they don't seem to have chosen themselves. Or "random crap", as my son would put it.

This morning on the metro I sat facing two people - one a conservatively dressed, shy-looking woman in her thirties with long brown hair, a little careful make-up and a worried look. On her nondescript black jacket, embroidered in pink on the shoulder pocket - "Notoriously breaking own rules."

Next to her a large and fierce-looking young woman - I think - a bit hard to tell as she was deep in a large black fur hat with ear flaps and a huge scarf. Belligerent posture, crossed arms, wide legs. On her nondescript beige jacket the logo "BG" - "Baby Girl".

I really wanted to lean forward, tap them on the shoulder and suggest they switch jackets :D

crazycanuck
03-31-2011, 02:46 AM
X!!!!! :cool: :D :) (((X))))

Nice to see ya round kiddo! Yup, work crap can wear ya down BUT you're a way cool n strong chicka and am sure there's a loverly job out dere for ya! Not sure on calling the boss..I don't know hospital politics and wouldn't want you to find out the hard way that you shouldn't :o

Are the wierd dreams good or bad :p

I'd trade you our crazed blue heeler for de kitties but i don't think our other loverly doggie would appreciate it. :rolleyes: Can kitties have too much catnip? Ya gotta get dem off de goooood stuff ya...:p

OakLeaf
03-31-2011, 04:25 AM
X!! Good to see you. Good luck with the job search!

Crankin
03-31-2011, 04:43 AM
I am so sick of my internship. I am maintaining barely enough clients to make my hours, though I know I will have enough. I just want to be done.
I realize that I have learned a lot and I love my new career. But, I am not looking forward to returning to full time work again for at least 2 years (required for my license).
Six more weeks.

OakLeaf
03-31-2011, 05:58 AM
... never too old for senioritis ... ;)

Crankin
03-31-2011, 06:28 AM
Yeah, first I had it with the actual course work, but now that I am actually working on my last paper (the biological basis of anxiety and alternative treatment, focusing on yoga and mindfulness) and it is going well, that went away.
I am going to a job fair on 4/22, so I am focusing on that, to rev me up for the job search. There are a couple of places that always hire new grads, but frankly, they kind of suck... especially when I've had clients tell me things that verify what I hear through the grapevine.
What worries me is that I seem to have a pattern of getting sick of my workplace, kind of easily... not the actual work, but more the culture of the place and my colleagues. In the past, i dealt with this by focusing on my outside interests, i.e. cycling and before that teaching at the gym. Working part time seems to eliminate the "getting sick of" thing, so I think it's really more about having a balanced life at this point. Unfortunately, if I work half time, it means twice as long to get the hours for my license. I sort of would love an 80% time job, just to give me a little leeway. Of course, it may just be what my dad says... I am a perpetual student!

BleeckerSt_Girl
03-31-2011, 07:03 AM
Hang in there Crankin, time flies and it'll be over before you know it! :o

I gotta draw a really weird lamp patent from 7 different angles this week- why are 99.9% of lamps so damned FUGLY ?!? Not complaining about having the work, though- it's great to have work!

Nothing blooming here yet except crocuses...yet my honeybees are finding some pollen from somewhere...I see them bringing it in on they little leg baskets. :p I'll be raising some new colonies from that hive this summer- yay for baby hives! :D

Guess I better pump up my flat winter bike tires sometime soon and get off my lazy butt now that it hits the 40'sF every day.

redrhodie
03-31-2011, 07:11 AM
Hang in there Crankin, time flies and it'll be over before you know it! :o

I gotta draw a really weird lamp patent from 7 different angles this week- why are 99.9% of lamps so damned FUGLY ?!? Not complaining about having the work, though- it's great to have work!

Nothing blooming here yet except crocuses...yet my honeybees are finding some pollen from somewhere...I see them bringing it in on they little leg baskets. :p I'll be raising some new colonies from that hive this summer- yay for baby hives! :D

Guess I better pump up my flat winter bike tires sometime soon and get off my lazy butt now that it hits the 40'sF every day.

Do you sell your honey? I'd love to buy some!

snapdragen
03-31-2011, 08:56 AM
Hey X! Good to "see" you! I don't see anything wrong with giving the the old boss a call, he may be super happy to hear from you.

What herb did Kit try for sleep? I found valerian helped me, even though it smells like socks. :rolleyes: