Dear So and So

[Pax]

Dear Camping,

We used to be so close, we spent endless nights together and wandered the wilds of the world together. I'm sorry to say I have to break up with you now; it's not you, it's me.

Signed,

Seeking Marriott

[Owlie]

You can find a place! Isn't there student apartments, or do they make you share?

That's actually what I'd applied for, but apparently they have a shortage of campus housing and I ended up on a waitlist for a studio/1BR. The housing guy's suggestion was to contact the appropriate person to get into the multiple-occupancy campus housing. Just as well, because I found a couple places around 3mi out that are significantly cheaper. Not bikeable, unfortunately--roads are busier (and hillier, in one case!) than I'd like, but the apartments are about six miles from a bike trail, and only a little further from the Yellow Springs end of the little Miami trail.

[indysteel]

Dear Camping,

We used to be so close, we spent endless nights together and wandered the wilds of the world together. I'm sorry to say I have to break up with you now; it's not you, it's me.

Signed,

Seeking Marriott

Uh oh! What happened?

[Pax]

Uh oh! What happened?

50 years worth of orthopedic injuries have made it more torturous than fun, so I don't sleep and I hurt... and I paid for the privilege. :rolleyes:

[indysteel]

50 years worth of orthopedic injuries have made it more torturous than fun, so I don't sleep and I hurt... and I paid for the privilege. :rolleyes:

Ugh; that sounds awful. We sleep on cots when we car camp, and we've never backcountry camped. I'm not sure my hips/back could take it.

[Pax]

Ugh; that sounds awful. We sleep on cots when we car camp, and we've never backcountry camped. I'm not sure my hips/back could take it.

I was sitting at our campsite, exhausted and hurting, I looked at my honey and asked "tell me again why we do this" she just laughed and agreed with me that is was more fun to stay at a Courtyard Marriott. :p

[indysteel]

I was sitting at our campsite, exhausted and hurting, I looked at my honey and asked "tell me again why we do this" she just laughed and agreed with me that is was more fun to stay at a Courtyard Marriott. :p

You newlyweds are so cute!!! :D:D

[Pax]

you newlyweds are so cute!!! :d:d

We really are!! LOL :D:D

[Catrin]

We really are!! LOL :D:D

Congratulations!

[Trek420]

I was sitting at our campsite, exhausted and hurting, I looked at my honey and asked "tell me again why we do this" she just laughed and agreed with me that is was more fun to stay at a Courtyard Marriott. :p

We need to find you two some luxury camping spots like:

http://norcalhostels.org/pigeon/features/

Tempurpedic beds, in one of our favorite spots on the CA coast, hot tubs, lots of cycling options ....

I really love Big Basin Redwoods park:

http://www.bigbasintentcabins.com/index.php

And Point Reyes National Seashore :D hey, a luxury yurt is camping:

http://www.windsongcottage.com/

[Pax]

We need to find you two some luxury camping spots like:

http://norcalhostels.org/pigeon/features/

Tempurpedic beds, in one of our favorite spots on the CA coast, hot tubs, lots of cycling options ....

I really love Big Basin Redwoods park:

http://www.bigbasintentcabins.com/index.php

And Point Reyes National Seashore :D hey, a luxury yurt is camping:

http://www.windsongcottage.com/

That's some quality camping right there!

[Trek420]

That's some quality camping right there!

Well? There's camping, there's the Hilton ... but it's not either/or. We've got to find some luxury outdoorsey spots for you and your honey :)

Design a motorcycle yurt to yurt tour of Oregon :)

http://www.oregon.gov/OPRD/PARKS/rustic.shtml

[snapdragen]

Camping is a hotel without room service or cable. :)

Welcome to the Princess club Pax, I'm the president. :rolleyes:

[emily_in_nc]

Dear BAHA,

Please approve Paisley's application to enter Belize ASAP. I will not sleep well until you do.

P.S. We will be there in three weeks.

[Biciclista]

Camping for me is a hotel room without a big bathtub. I'll do it, but I don't like to.
It's been a long time since i slept anywhere NEAR the ground!

To whom it may concern
Sometimes it really IS worth it to pay 250 dollars for a plumber to replace
your toilet's wax ring and clean up what leaked out.
It's the first time I ever felt sorry for a plumber.

The plumber's daughter.

[Crankin]

Dear People on my about to start bike tour,

Please, I don't want to hear about G-d, Mary Kay Cosmetics, or how many races you won this season. Don't tell me your political views, and please don't suggest I join you for drinks at the lunch stop. And hopefully, there won't be any wives doing lap dances on their DH's lap as we listen to the orientation.

I wish DH hadn't googled all of the participants. He thinks it's funny, but now I know too much. And the lap dance thing really did happen when we went to Quebec. As well as the triathletes from Indiana who managed to ruin dinner on my first tour in Vermont by trying to talk to me about pro-life stuff.
Yes, Virginia, you're in the northeast now...

[indysteel]

Dear People on my about to start bike tour,

Please, I don't want to hear about G-d, Mary Kay Cosmetics, or how many races you won this season. Don't tell me your political views, and please don't suggest I join you for drinks at the lunch stop. And hopefully, there won't be any wives doing lap dances on their DH's lap as we listen to the orientation.

I wish DH hadn't googled all of the participants. He thinks it's funny, but now I know too much. And the lap dance thing really did happen when we went to Quebec. As well as the triathletes from Indiana who managed to ruin dinner on my first tour in Vermont by trying to talk to me about pro-life stuff.
Yes, Virginia, you're in the northeast now...

Just to be clear, not all of us in Indiana are anti-abortion or socially inept.

[mudmucker]

Dear People on my about to start bike tour,

Please, I don't want to hear about G-d, Mary Kay Cosmetics, or how many races you won this season. Don't tell me your political views, and please don't suggest I join you for drinks at the lunch stop. And hopefully, there won't be any wives doing lap dances on their DH's lap as we listen to the orientation.

I wish DH hadn't googled all of the participants. He thinks it's funny, but now I know too much. And the lap dance thing really did happen when we went to Quebec. As well as the triathletes from Indiana who managed to ruin dinner on my first tour in Vermont by trying to talk to me about pro-life stuff.
Yes, Virginia, you're in the northeast now...

Maybe you ought not not to participate in ridings with others like this if you are already fretting about how miserable you could be, and if it's a sentiment you frequently feel. By developing a negativity (early on or not) it is toxic to you which then might become toxic to others.

[KnottedYet]

Dear Newbie Seattlites,

It's Sea Fair weekend.

The Blue Angels are here. It's traditional. We like them. Yes, they are LOUD.

They are loud enough to make your car alarm go off. Hear it? Yes, and you run outside to stop the alarm. Then the Blue Angels go over again. And your car alarm goes off again. And you run outside again.

Rinse. Repeat. Ad nauseum.

They'll be at it all day. Just like they were yesterday when they were practicing, and the day before when they were learning landmarks.

Please, for the love of Mt. Rainier, turn OFF the car security system for the day.

Thanks,
Seattle Native.

[Owlie]

Dear Newbie Seattlites,

It's Sea Fair weekend.

The Blue Angels are here. It's traditional. We like them. Yes, they are LOUD.

They are loud enough to make your car alarm go off. Hear it? Yes, and you run outside to stop the alarm. Then the Blue Angels go over again. And your car alarm goes off again. And you run outside again.

Rinse. Repeat. Ad nauseum.

They'll be at it all day. Just like they were yesterday when they were practicing, and the day before when they were learning landmarks.

Please, for the love of Mt. Rainier, turn OFF the car security system for the day.

Thanks,
Seattle Native.

LOL. They show up at the Cleveland air show too, which is over Labor Day weekend. Classes are already in session by then. My alma mater's campus is directly below the flight paths. It's actually pretty funny if you're on campus the Friday before, because you can watch the freshmen freak out. DBF says he saw one girl dive into the bushes and then try to pretend nothing had happened...

[emily_in_nc]

Maybe you ought not not to participate in ridings with others like this if you are already fretting about how miserable you could be, and if it's a sentiment you frequently feel. By developing a negativity (early on or not) it is toxic to you which then might become toxic to others.

And here I thought this was supposed to be a supportive forum...aren't we ever allowed to b*tch here without getting a lecture? :confused:

[Biciclista]

to whom
it may concern. yes, i did giggle when they mentioned that the blue angels show in Seattle might go by by because of budget cuts.
my house gets dive bombed by them for a week every year. Yes i can live without that!

[mudmucker]

And here I thought this was supposed to be a supportive forum...aren't we ever allowed to b*tch here without getting a lecture? :confused:

Of course you can b*itch on this forum - happens all the time. Many people even get very offended or personalize posts even when it isn't directed at them. Sometimes there are lectures too, offering a myriad of opinions such as a forum is.
:confused:
So I can't call someone out on it reminding/illustrating that mindframe in and of itself can be impactful to others? If you disagree or are too offended by what I say, then maybe put me on ignore?

My comment wasn't made in a vacuum. This person has admitted to a dislike of group rides and has appeared to not have had fun on many of them.

Indysteel offered a reminder too, that not all people in Indiana are anti-abortion or socially inept. Is that a lecture, an opinion, supportive, unsupportive, just merely a statement?

[bmccasland]

Dear Newbie Seattlites,

It's Sea Fair weekend.

The Blue Angels are here. It's traditional. We like them. Yes, they are LOUD.

They are loud enough to make your car alarm go off. Hear it? Yes, and you run outside to stop the alarm. Then the Blue Angels go over again. And your car alarm goes off again. And you run outside again.

Rinse. Repeat. Ad nauseum.

They'll be at it all day. Just like they were yesterday when they were practicing, and the day before when they were learning landmarks.

Please, for the love of Mt. Rainier, turn OFF the car security system for the day.

Thanks,
Seattle Native.

ROFLOL. My neighbors came over, could they please watch the Blue Angles on my TV as the don't subscribe to a TV service? Sure.

After watching on TV, I'd rather see it live. I did get to watch them fly over my office when they were practicing earlier in the week.

During the show I didn't get buzzed by the Blue Angles, but by all the commercial aircraft who had to change their landing and take-off patterns at SeaTac.

I love the smell of jet fuel in the morning. Reminds me of my AF base days. :cool::D

[channlluv]

The Blue Angels split the space-time continuum above my house every October, too. Oy, the sound, but how cool the sight and the soul-deep rumbling.

Regarding feeding feral cats, I heard an NPR story a few days back about a township north of us that has approved shooting coyotes because they've been driven down into the community because of the drought and they're in search of food - namely feral cats and small pets let out into yards, and the food people leave out for feral cats. The mayor of the community said in the interview that they'd tried all kinds of other interventions, but last week two elderly women were dragged and injured when coyotes attacked their small dogs out on leashes while they were walking!

He said the coyotes have become fearless and people have not been following the no-feeding-the-feral-cats sanctions, so the problem has escalated far beyond what was manageable when both communities (coyote and human) respected each other's space.

Roxy

[PamNY]

Maybe you ought not not to participate in ridings with others like this if you are already fretting about how miserable you could be, and if it's a sentiment you frequently feel. By developing a negativity (early on or not) it is toxic to you which then might become toxic to others.

What could possibly be toxic to someone doing a lap dance during the orientation?:D

[redrhodie]

What could possibly be toxic to someone doing a lap dance during the orientation?:D

Ha! I bet they're offended by Keens, the antithesis of the clear heel stiletto.

[PamNY]

Ha! I bet they're offended by Keens, the antithesis of the clear heel stiletto.

As I sit here looking at the Keens I'm wearing -- I'll bet you are exactly right!

[indysteel]

The Blue Angels split the space-time continuum above my house every October, too. Oy, the sound, but how cool the sight and the soul-deep rumbling.

Regarding feeding feral cats, I heard an NPR story a few days back about a township north of us that has approved shooting coyotes because they've been driven down into the community because of the drought and they're in search of food - namely feral cats and small pets let out into yards, and the food people leave out for feral cats. The mayor of the community said in the interview that they'd tried all kinds of other interventions, but last week two elderly women were dragged and injured when coyotes attacked their small dogs out on leashes while they were walking!

He said the coyotes have become fearless and people have not been following the no-feeding-the-feral-cats sanctions, so the problem has escalated far beyond what was manageable when both communities (coyote and human) respected each other's space.

Roxy

I'd have to read more about that issue in your community, but it strikes me that the issue has more to do with unrestrained land development than feral cats or the food people put out to feed them. So, too, does the solution. Those coyotes aren't likely to just go away because the kittie food is removed.

In my former urban community, feral cats are used to curb the rat population, which is one of the main reasons the county doesn't prohibit people from caring for managed and controlled feral colonies.

[indysteel]

As for Crankin's post and the response thereto: IMO, when people share something on a public forum, they invite comments. Sometimes, the comments aren't what they anticipated or wanted, but that's the risk you run when you share something with people of divergent views and backgrounds. I imagine each of us has posted something that drew a bit of criticism or dissent at one point or another. Of coures, we're also free to defend ourselves, share additonal information or ignore what others say. Mudmucker's comment didn't strike me as terribly unsupportive. Crankin shared that she doesn't always care for the people she tours with. If that's the case, then Mud's suggestion that she rethink the tours isn't really off base IMO. Certainly, Crankin generally speaks her mind, so I don't know that any of us needs to intervene on her behalf (although I could say the same for Muck, and here I am intervening). As for my own comment, it wasn't intended to be supportive. In truth, I bristled a bit at Crankin's "Virginia, you're in the northeast now." It sounded a bit elitist to me. Now that may have not been her intent, but either way, I felt within my rights as a forum member to commment on it.

[tulip]

The whole reason I like to tour with folks I don't know and in areas I don't live in is so that I can get to know them, along with their experiences and opinions, even if (or especially because) I might meet someone who is different from me and I might learn something. I try to keep an open mind, and if someone really ends up annoying me, I just ignore them. Usually, though, people are interesting in one way or another. Sometimes you just have to look a little harder or dig a little deeper.

Oh, and Virginia, I've been in the Northeast and I've found some of the least-tolerant people there I've ever met. But there I go stereotyping again. Silly me.

[Owlie]

Dear sister--
Kindly stop eating my food.

[channlluv]

I'd have to read more about that issue in your community, but it strikes me that the issue has more to do with unrestrained land development than feral cats or the food people put out to feed them. So, too, does the solution. Those coyotes aren't likely to just go away because the kittie food is removed.

In my former urban community, feral cats are used to curb the rat population, which is one of the main reasons the county doesn't prohibit people from caring for managed and controlled feral colonies.


You make a good point. The mayor sounded like they'd tried everything to keep the coyotes at bay, including training them to leave humans alone, sound repellants, trapping and removing them, and so on. The community has been there for a long time, so it's not like this is a new issue. It's just gotten worse with the draught and people leaving food out for the wild animals. In the NPR interview, he specifically mentioned feral cats, although in skimming the article link below, I didn't see any reference to cats except the one carried off by a coyote.

It's not my community, though. Here's an article about it: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/29/national/main20085765.shtml.

Roxy

[Bethany1]

Dear Doc,

Thank you for the x-rays showing that my knees are in perfect health. I still don't know why the right knee is acting up so I may be back.

Dear State Of Nebraska,

Thank you for the transfer of DH to a town 20 miles away so he doesn't have to drive a 160 mile round trip every day.

Dear Chiropractor,

Thank you for adjusting my back, hips, neck and putting one of the rib bones back into place. My back has relaxed now that you've put the rib back where it belongs. I would have come in sooner if I had known about the rib.

[Bethany1]

LOL about the Blue Angels setting off car alarms. They can come by my house anytime.

When I was in Texas, the Air Force base had training jets go over all the time. It was great have your own airshow every day. If you planned it right, the jets would buzz over you on the main road on the way back to the base.

[Pax]

LOL about the Blue Angels setting off car alarms. They can come by my house anytime.

When I was in Texas, the Air Force base had training jets go over all the time. It was great have your own airshow every day. If you planned it right, the jets would buzz over you on the main road on the way back to the base.

I grew up on Air Force bases all over the world, that jet sound is music to my ears.

[azfiddle]

Dear rioters in England,

Please, please, please calm down and start behaving as civilized and law-abiding citizens, because my daughter is flying to London tomorrow and and I'm worried about her safety. She just wants to get to Norwich to have a few weeks with that English boy she's going to get married to sometime in the future, and then head over to Anglia-Ruskin to start grad school.

[indysteel]

You make a good point. The mayor sounded like they'd tried everything to keep the coyotes at bay, including training them to leave humans alone, sound repellants, trapping and removing them, and so on. The community has been there for a long time, so it's not like this is a new issue. It's just gotten worse with the draught and people leaving food out for the wild animals. In the NPR interview, he specifically mentioned feral cats, although in skimming the article link below, I didn't see any reference to cats except the one carried off by a coyote.

It's not my community, though. Here's an article about it: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/29/national/main20085765.shtml.

Roxy

Thanks for the link. Sadly, the whole feral cats thing may be moot. We haven't see much of our kitties since bringing them home from the vet. The cats had been spending a lot of time under the deck of the house next door to us. The house had been uninhabited and for sale for some time. Well, the very day we brought them back home from the vet, a family moved into the house. We talked to them about the cats and they were just fine with "hosting" them (they have indoor cats, too). But I think all of the activity around the house may have spooked the kitties. We have only seen them a couple of times since then and not at all over the last day or so. We're going to ask around a bit and see if any of our other neighbors have seen them. I'd like to think that somebody else might be feeding them, but of course, there are other possibilities. It makes me sad. I'd grown more attached to them than I realized.

[Sardine]

Dear rioters in England,

Please, please, please calm down and start behaving as civilized and law-abiding citizens, because my daughter is flying to London tomorrow and and I'm worried about her safety. She just wants to get to Norwich to have a few weeks with that English boy she's going to get married to sometime in the future, and then head over to Anglia-Ruskin to start grad school.

Hi Azfiddle,

I live in London and although the riots have been spreading, I haven't picked up any problems in Norwich in the news. One also hopes that the politicians will get a handle on things soon and sort out this mess.

You may well have come across these already but here are a couple of links that may be of interest as they will allow you to follow local events more closely:

1) BBC local news site for the county of Norfolk (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/england/norfolk/) ; and

2) Link to a page that will take you to other local news sources e.g. local papers and radio, including Radio Norwich, (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-12386601) .

There is currently a headline on the Radio Norwich site which reads 'Norwich Streets Remain Calm'. The police are reassuring people that they are able to maintain order despite deploying some officers to London.

I hope this helps a bit. I also hope that you daughter enjoys her time over here.

Edit: I've assumed that your daughter won't be spending much time in London. Perhaps she's getting the train if she's not catching a connecting flight. Even so, not all of London is lke what you're seeing in the news. Much of this is happening outside Central London, in more residential areas.

[jessmarimba]

Dear back:
Stop hurting. You're making me nauseous and sleep-deprived, and that makes me grumpy.

Dear BF:
Stop avoiding my calls. I know I'm grumpy, but not talking to me is just making me grumpier.

Signed,
Crankypants

[azfiddle]

Thank you very much Sardine!
That's reassuring.

She has been following news (mainly via the Guardian online), and has been in touch with her BF in Norwich. She will arrive mid-morning and doesn't expect any problems at the airport etc. She's taking the coach but her main concern was arriving in Norwich in early evening, if something did break out. So far, so good.

It's going to be a little emotional for us anyway- if everything works out for her, she is planning to make this a permanent move.

[KnottedYet]

Dear Terrified (and terrifying) Bike Commuter,

Just a little heads up, honey.

You are on a street that is divisible by "5". You may have noticed there aren't many bikes on this street, but there's a whole sh*tload of cars. And big honkin' busses. And no bike lane. And no shoulders.

You aren't making a statement for Cyclist Freedom by riding down this street.

You're being a dork.

Here's a little hint: in this part of town, the "5" and "0" streets are what're called "arterials." They have a 30 mph limit, lots of cars, no space for bikes. The "1", "2", "3", "4", "6", "7", "8", and "9" streets are what're called "residential." They have 25 mph limits, are traffic calmed at every intersection, and THAT'S WHERE THE REST OF US ARE RIDING OUR BIKES.

Yes, I know you only know the route you drive in your car, but seriously sweetums, move ONE FRICKIN' BLOCK in any direction and you will find bike-commuter bliss.

Love, hugs, and kisses,
Knot, who drives her car on the arterials and wants your a$$ out of the way because you can't hold your line and you scare the cr@p out of her. (peace, love, harmony, and all that other PC new age sh*t. But get out of my way. Like, seriously. Am I in your way on my bike when you are speeding in your SUV on the arterials? No, I think not. Turn about is fair play and so on. Bust out of the ordinary. Be brave. Seek out strange new worlds. Boldly go where you have never gone in your car. He11, the city even prints up these nice FREE bike maps showing you ways other than your car-ruts that you can use on your bike. C'mon, babe, don't make me more bitter than I already am... I've given out about a thousand of those frickin' maps. Pay attention.)

[Biciclista]

Dear crazy bike commuter
It was very entertaining to have you going down the hill going the wrong way in the other bike lane directly opposite from us this morning. I know my DH showed a lot of restraint for NOT letting you know what we thought. It was bad enough when you were in the wrong bike lane, but when you then turned left and moved into the LEFT lane going the wrong way, I wondered how you are still alive.
Thanks for feeding negative opinions about cyclists. And I hope I don't read about you in the paper some day.
sigh..

[Hi Ho Silver]

Dear La Nina,

I have been told that you are responsible for the hellishly hot weather here in TX (25 consecutive days with temps in 100's, 57 days total with temps in 100's).

Please, please, please ... shove off, beat it, vamoose, begone and let some cooler weather and rain to invade the state!!!


Ever So Gratefully,

Sweaty Jean

[redrhodie]

RIP HTC. :( You were fun to watch.

[Owlie]

Dear sister--
Do you know how horrible it is to share a bathroom with you? You take 5 showers a day so the bathmat is always wet (eew), you leave hair everywhere, and you apparently can't put all your hair-care products and devices away after you use them. (And how does one person have so many, anyway?)
--Your sister, who is a little tired of you being obnoxious.

Dear new LBS location--
Thanks for being convenient and not being so off-putting as you might have been. Still not thrilled about the shop ride idea. And what's with being surprised by the fact that I can change my own tire?

[Biciclista]

To whom it may concern
I'm not sure I can do this.
I'm really not sure.

[redrhodie]

Dear Mimi,

It sounds like you need a hug. (((()))). It will be okay. Do what is right for you.

[NbyNW]

Mimi,

Let us know if you need anything. Anything at all.

[OakLeaf]

(((((((Mimi))))))) Hang in there. Try to make your decisions from a place of strength. Defy inevitability. Ask for hugs.

[indysteel]

Dear Mimi,

It sounds like you need a hug. (((()))). It will be okay. Do what is right for you.

I'll join in that virtual hug if I may! I'm not sure what's going on in your life right now, Mimi, but I'll ask the Universe to give you the strength you need to deal with it.

[PamNY]

Mimi good thoughts & energy coming your way.

[Trek420]

(((((( mimi )))))) group hug :( :confused:

[Biciclista]

ok you guys, he told the folks at bikejournal, i guess i can tell you. My DH has esophageal cancer.. we just got the diagnosis.. no spreading apparently. we just found out, i'll tell you more when i know

[maillotpois]

Oh Mimi - I am so sorry. Big hugs to you and RD.

[SadieKate]

Oh, crap, Mimi. Hugs to both of you. I hope his humor will help you both.

[Owlie]

Oh, Mimi. ((Hugs)) and good vibes to both of you.

[Pax]

((((Mimi))))

[NbyNW]

(((Mimi & RaleighDon)))

Hugs & strength. Keep us posted.

[indysteel]

(((((Oh, mimi))))). I'm so sorry. My thoughts are with you and DH. Please keep us posted if you can as to any further news or info.

[jessmarimba]

((hugs)) and good vibes!! I wish I could do more.

[Possegal]

Add me to the list sending prayers and positive thoughts your way. The early stages of diagnosis are the hardest as there is so much you don't know yet. Let us know if we can help in any way.

When my sister was first diagnosed, we kept going back to the AA Milne/Christopher Robin quote "Promise me you'll always remember: You're braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think."

You can do this. I'm really sure.

[indysteel]

Add me to the list sending prayers and positive thoughts your way. The early stages of diagnosis are the hardest as there is so much you don't know yet. Let us know if we can help in any way.

When my sister was first diagnosed, we kept going back to the AA Milne/Christopher Robin quote "Promise me you'll always remember: You're braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think."

You can do this. I'm really sure.

What a fitting quotation to share right now, Possegal. Thank you for that.

[spokewench]

(((Mimi))) - Hang in there Mimi! You both are very strong. I can only, at this time, offer my hugs.

[redrhodie]

I'm so sorry, Mimi. I wish I could give you a real hug.

[jobob]

Ohmygod, mimi. You guys are in my & Leebob's thoughts & prayers.

[lph]

Mimi!! You must be feeling overwhelmed right now, you poor thing :( Sending big strong hugs and best wishes to you from here. We're here for you anytime you want to talk.

[KnottedYet]

(((((Mimi and Don)))))

Call me if you need anything at all. (I live a lot closer to you now!)

[azfiddle]

Mimi, and Don,

Oh big hugs to you both, from me and Chuck. Take it one step at a time. Your focus is going to narrow down to just the important stuff- let the rest of it go, and don't be afraid to accept help.

Sharon

[channlluv]

((((Mimi and Don))))

[Biciclista]

You guys are all amazing.
I've been on this forum for what, 4 - 5 years, and how many amazing women have I met here?!
Thanks for your good thoughts and supportive words. We got back from the doctor and he says it's treatable. It's nasty surgery, but hey, that's better than a death sentence!

Knott, just how close are you?

[aka_kim]

Mimi, my thoughts are with you and RD.

[snapdragen]

mimi - I'm very sorry to hear this, but glad to know it is treatable. It's overwhelming, I know. Please feel free to talk to us when you need to, or if you need our collective shoulders to cry on. Hugs to you and RD.

[Crankin]

I am sorry to hear this news, Mimi. Please feel free to unload your thoughts here.

[OakLeaf]

Oh Mimi. I'm so sorry to hear that. Hugs and prayers to both of you. Be surrounded by our light.

[crazycanuck]

:( (((Mimi & RD))))

Mimi, you're an awesome chicka & you can get through this.

All I can think of is don & humour...:D

[Biciclista]

Besides the implications of cancer in general, the thing that is so frightening is that the surgery is so serious; cutting into the chest, removing and replacing the esophagus, possibly messing with his stomach too. This means he won't be able to eat for a while except through a tube. If they do any chemo or radiation, he will be rendered even more weak and this stuff is scary scary stuff. Many of you have been through this or have loved ones that have suffered through this. We just watched my stepfather have repeated surgeries in his gastric areas before he died, so we are a little nervous to say the least. Anyway, we both liked how emphatic the doctor was when he said it could be fixed. ahhh.. thanks you guys

[emily_in_nc]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Mimi & Don }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Wishing you much strength in this journey...

[bmccasland]

((((((Mimi & Don))))))

Am here if you need something.

Guess it wasn't Don that I thought I saw on a bike one day this week. :(

[Biciclista]

seriously, Beth? he's riding EVERY day. He doesn't feel bad!! (wait until after his surgery)

[Trek420]

seriously, Beth? he's riding EVERY day. He doesn't feel bad!! (wait until after his surgery)

Good. He's a strong man. He's keeping up his strength. He'll need it to make a great recovery. Ride on Raleighdon :cool: After the surgery we'll need some slow, leisurely recovery, rebuilding rides to food or coffee. At that point I might be able to keep up with him. I might even be up there.

[Biciclista]

cool Trek420
It occurs to me you have never met him? (but you know him very well)

[indysteel]

Mimi, Don--with your help--is gonna kick cancer's a**! At least I sincerely hope so. We're all pulling for you.

[Owlie]

I'm glad to hear it's treatable. We're all here for you.

[salsabike]

Love you both.

[Blueberry]

Mimi- Just checked in here and saw this. I'm so sorry - that really, really sucks. Thinking of you both.

[Sky King]

1. you are not alone, remember that
2. Ask for help, people are amazing but often feel helpless and don't know what you need
3. Hugs, hugs and more hugs

The Bike Hermit and I are thinking of you and thinking positive for a quick recovery.

[KnottedYet]

Knott, just how close are you?

I moved to the U District a couple weeks ago. I'm closer now, so seriously, call me for anything at all!

[mudmucker]

Just seeing this myself now too. I wish you and Don much strength as things unfold, and the best outcome possible. Hope recovery is uneventful.

I don't know Don at all, only through your posts, Mimi. I just went over to bike journal to read some of what he had to say. What an incredible person he is! What a fabulous energy and outlook on life!

[five one]

I am so sorry to hear this, Mimi.

My husband just celebrated his 20th anniversary of remission following a bone marrow transplant for non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. From what I know of Donald, having read your postings here and his own blog, they are very much alike with regards to health, personality, and attitude. The two of you will get through this. I know it.

Feel free to PM me anytime. I'd be happy to share more details with you if you are interested and/or think it might help.

Best wishes and positive vibes to you both.

[melissam]

I'm very sorry to hear this, Mimi. You and Don have my thoughts, prayers, and best wishes.

[alexis_the_tiny]

Mimi, it all sounds very terrifying and overwhelming but I think you guys will come through this just fine. The universe never gives us more than it knows we can handle, even if we sometimes don't think we can. Sending you guys tons of positive vibes and virtual hugs for strength. :)

[NbyNW]

Mimi, I hope all goes smoothly with Don's surgery and recovery. Holler if you need anything.

[Biciclista]

thanks all you guys! Just came back from riding a 100k. I am totally wasted... and he wanted me to go faster!

[crazycanuck]

Dear Upper Body injury.

Can you please heal faster??? YOu're starting to drive me nuts...Patience wearing thin...

Dear posture,

Could you please work with me...I'm doing all the exercises de physio gave us to do...

[jessmarimba]

Dear guy who almost rear-ended me at 60 mph on the interstate -

Riding a foot from my bumper will not make the semi in front of me go any faster. You had an entire empty lane to your left and I even waved you around, and you still decided to tailgate me until I finally braked so much that you very nearly hit me (btw, driver, the speed limit by the tunnel is 50, not 65, so I was going plenty fast for the right lane). I hope you get some help. Perhaps some glasses so you can see the giant 14 foot truck doors over the roof of my very small car.

[OakLeaf]

I finally braked so much that you very nearly hit me

Dear Jess, getting into a mutual road-rage contest is very tempting but also very dangerous. Please chill, we like you here.

[Eden]

((Mimi)) - I just saw your posts - like the others said, if you need anything do not hesitate to get in touch.

[SheFly]

Mimi - just checking in this weekend and saw your post. Much love to you and RaleighDon as you enter a time of uncertainty. The women here have been a great comfort to me, and I hope that we can also be a great comfort to you.

You are both strong, and I wish you both well! If there is anything I can do, albeit from the far right coast, PLEASE don't hesitate to let me know!

SheFly

[LilBolt]

Mimi - Last year I had the pleasure (and fun) of working with Don loading the trucks for RAMROD (we missed him this year, but he did a great job w/ porta potty duty since they were everywhere I needed them). Anyhow, he made a comment to the guys loading gear into the trucks next to the water barrels. He told them not to mess up the spigots (although, his language was far more colorful & effective). A couple of us repeated his words to the crew this year. I think he needs to use that same line on his surgeon! All my & dh Bruce's best to Don & you.

[shootingstar]

Besides the implications of cancer in general, the thing that is so frightening is that the surgery is so serious; cutting into the chest, removing and replacing the esophagus, possibly messing with his stomach too. This means he won't be able to eat for a while except through a tube. If they do any chemo or radiation, he will be rendered even more weak and this stuff is scary scary stuff. Many of you have been through this or have loved ones that have suffered through this.

Since I was late even noticing this news until yesterday in another thread, I'm wishing Don and you, Mimi big buckets of luck.

Any radiation /chemo, especially repeated treatments, can easily weaken a person's immune system for awhile.

When is the surgery scheduled?

[Biciclista]

Shooting star, we don't know yet. We haven't even met the oncologist. we only found out on Thursday, but it seems like before that was another life. Life before cancer. Pretty strange.
Last night my sons came over (it was my daughter in law's bday) DH finally got to talk to them both "man to man" about stuff. My younger son gave me the best hug he's ever given me before he left last night. I guess he finally gets it.
thanks all of you for your supportive comments.
I don't want to take over this thread though :o please continue to write your dear so and sos here!

[Trek420]

You're welcome to take over the thread, heck, the whole board with this.

[indysteel]

Mimi, I'm so glad you got a good hug. Your son may have been channeling all of us on TE who wish we could give you a hug in person ourselves. I want to assure you that whether it's in this thread or a seperate one, we want you to continue to talk freely about what's going on with you and Don. We care about you and would welcome an opportunity to show our support and to stay apprised.

[Pax]

Mimi - thinking of you and Don. http://forums.relicnews.com/images/smilies/GroupHug.gif



Dear Universe,

Thanks so much for the push to make changes, we're on it. :D

Us

[salsabike]

Mimi, I'm so glad you got a good hug. Your son may have been channeling all of us on TE who wish we could give you a hug in person ourselves. I want to assure you that whether it's in this thread or a seperate one, we want you to continue to talk freely about what's going on with you and Don. We care about you and would welcome an opportunity to show our support and to stay apprised.

Yup!

[OakLeaf]

Mimi, I'm so glad you got a good hug. Your son may have been channeling all of us on TE who wish we could give you a hug in person ourselves. I want to assure you that whether it's in this thread or a seperate one, we want you to continue to talk freely about what's going on with you and Don. We care about you and would welcome an opportunity to show our support and to stay apprised.

+ a million

And that goes for the years ahead too. I think one of the most difficult things about cancer is that once the treatments are finished, people think the person is finished with it, and don't want to hear about it any more. As far as I'm concerned you're always welcome to share your and Don's struggles with the sequelae of treatment, future monitoring, etc.

[Biciclista]

+ a million

And that goes for the years ahead too. I think one of the most difficult things about cancer is that once the treatments are finished, people think the person is finished with it, and don't want to hear about it any more. As far as I'm concerned you're always welcome to share your and Don's struggles with the sequelae of treatment, future monitoring, etc.

exactly. Life as we knew is is over, as surely as it was the day I brought home my first baby...
and thanks you guys again..
But since you're all listening, I have to tell you about the Tom hug.
The first time I got a hug like that was the last time I saw my grandfather Tom Torchia.
The second time I got a hug like that was a few years later when I visited my long lost brother, Tom Torchia for the first time in many years.

and then last night, my own son Tom. how about that? I don't mean that my DH doesn't give me awesome hugs, but this is a different category.

:rolleyes:

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Mimi, sending my love and healing health wishes to Don and you both.
You are one of the strongest and most caring and sensible women I know.
xoxo Lisa

[jessmarimba]

Dear Jess, getting into a mutual road-rage contest is very tempting but also very dangerous. Please chill, we like you here.

Wasn't road rage! I had to brake to not rear-end the semi!! Their speed limit is 35 mph down the mountain (and it's 55 maybe? for cars?) and I was trying to wait for the guy behind me to pass me before I passed the truck. The people in that car were so weird...though I think they were from an area where you can't change lanes in tunnels (like the I-95 tunnel in Baltimore, or something).

I've spent the last 2 days driving rural highways in the Dakotas. I have not had one single person tailgate...it's been quite pleasant.

*******************

Mimi, I hope all is well. I can't do much but be here for you and listen (read), but let me know if a souvenir from someplace like Amidon, North Dakota might help :)

[Biciclista]

To whom it may concern
Finally finally after almost 10 years of riding my bike MUCH MORE than I really felt like, the numbers are in my favor.
The first thing that happened was that I gained weight. Went from 118 pounds to 132 - it happened gradually, but believe me, I noticed!!!!!!
Became heavier than I ever was not counting when I was pregnant.

WELL TODAY it was all worth it. went for my annual free medical screening right here at my office and then nurse put a tape around my waist to measure my BMI, took my height and weight and I came out at 17!! officially "LOW" AKA "Below normal"
WOOHOOOO!!!!

I am clearly not underweight so I read that to mean, all that fat I used to have around my waist isn't around my waist anymore.

Now on to the oncologist's appt for my DH.. we have to take the good news with the bad.

[Pax]

Mimi - COOL about the BMI!! Congrats. Good luck at the oncologists appt. too.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Metabolism,

Let's face it, you suck. You are as low and slow as can be measured. I eat a decent diet, work out some, take a nice vigorous walk every day... and I gain weight!?!? Yup, you suck.

Signed,

Still fat but getting pissed

[jobob]

Dear Fine Former Employer:

It was one year ago today that you threw me under the bus and "requested" my resignation to placate a surly, incompetent coworker who belonged to a protected group, and to basically make life easier for yourselves. This was after putting me through a wee bit of hell for the preceding half-year or so. You sure saved a bundle on severance pay, I had worked there for over a decade, after all.

I'm very happy to inform you that I'm now doing independent contract work and enjoying it immensely. I don't miss the day to day workplace baloney one little bit, I set my own hours and I'm getting by quite nicely, thankyee kindly. And I have plenty of time to do what I darn well please.

They say living well is the best revenge. Well, I'm living proof of that. :cool:

Signed,

Self-employed and glad of it.

[indysteel]

Yay, Jobob!! I'm so glad you're in a better place, even if getting there wasn't so pleasant.

[lph]

Dear co-worker, who used the changing room and showers before me,

please, if you break something made of glass on the tiled floor, make sure you've gotten all the major pieces up off the middle of the floor! Thankfully I have really thick skin on my heels after summer barefooting, which is why I'm not still carrying that shard around with me embedded in my foot. But when I automatically swiped my foot against the other shin to brush the "pebble" off, the ensuing gash and brisk bleeding almost made me miss the meeting I had 7 minutes to catch...

[Biciclista]

LPH, YIKES!!! that is really creepy!! I'm glad it wasn't worse.

At doc's today; result? MORE tests. They are bright, confident, hopeful. It was good to meet them. D has appointments every day this week. yikes!

[lph]

At doc's today; result? MORE tests. They are bright, confident, hopeful. It was good to meet them.

Mimi, that's great! So glad you get to meet the good guys :)

[jobob]

Glad to hear you folks are in good hands, Mimi!
(yep I'm hovering this thread for news of Sir RaleighDon)

lph: Good grief! Hope you didn't drip blood into that meeting. Although it may have been an interesting conversation starter ... :rolleyes:

[lph]

I had to suddenly switch from dress to dark pants, and press surreptitiously on my shin for the first ten minutes... But was saved from actually dribbling blood by the sweet young security guard - new since the bombing and Utøya attacks - at the reception who had an ample first-aid kit. :p

[indysteel]

They are bright, confident, hopeful.

I like that sound of that.

[Biciclista]

I had to suddenly switch from dress to dark pants, and press surreptitiously on my shin for the first ten minutes... But was saved from actually dribbling blood by the sweet young security guard - new since the bombing and Utøya attacks - at the reception who had an ample first-aid kit. :p

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Trek420]

Glad to hear you folks are in good hands, Mimi!
(yep I'm hovering this thread for news of Sir RaleighDon)

Do we want to start a seperate "group hug for Mr & Mrs Mimitabby" thread?

I don't mind hovering over Dear So and So either if that's what folks want. :cool:

[NbyNW]

Do we want to start a seperate "group hug for Mr & Mrs Mimitabby" thread?

I don't mind hovering over Dear So and So either if that's what folks want. :cool:

I love that idea.

Mimi, glad to hear that you and Don have like your doctors so far. Lotsa hugs -- I know there is still much to learn about what you are facing.

[Trek420]

I love that idea.

Ok, someone come up with a title :D

[bmccasland]

Dear Pharmaceutical Company,
So you're the sole source of a med, no generic available yet, even though it's been in production for years. So why have you "temporarily" stopped production?? :mad: I know I've been needing to wean myself off (hormone therapy for those wondering), but 2 pills notice was not exactly what I had in mind. Good thing I happen to have 7 more pills stashed from an office sample my Doc gave me last year. So I have 9 pills to stretch out. :( Meanwhile my pharmacist will try to find the Rx at another chain.

Don't tell me let me guess, when you start production again it'll be more expensive and with some small change that means it won't be available in generic form. Was this the ulterior motive for the long list of meds that are nearing their original patent, stop production, make a small change, then protect them under a new patent with a new price?

grumble mumble grumble

[Biciclista]

to whom it may concern
Besides woolweenies, this IS my favorite thread; it's where ALL of us go to get stuff off our chests. I don't really like the spotlight, especially with this situation.
I am not going to start a thread for this; if someone else does, it's fine with me, but I'd just as soon go here and read all your gripes and tribulations too, makes life more interesting.

[PamNY]

At doc's today; result? MORE tests. They are bright, confident, hopeful. It was good to meet them. D has appointments every day this week. yikes!

Sounds good about the docs. Appointments every day? Yikes.

Sending you every positive thought, wish, and hug.

[Owlie]

((Mimi))

Dear whoever:
I officially hate cars. I like the idea. I just don't think it's worth the ~$100 in title transfer and sales tax (and it would have been more if my parents hadn't sold me the car at about a quarter of its KBB value), the $500 in insurance (granted, about half of that was also renter's insurance) because I miraculously get less responsible because I'm not an undergrad (and will equally miraculously get better at driving on my 25th birthday?), and the $70 for (ugly) new plates...not to mention the new socket wrench and WD40, the time I've spent trying to get the old ones off to no avail, and whatever the visit to the dealership will cost to remove the things because the bolts haven't been moved in 12 years and are rusty. :mad:

This also doesn't include gas, maintenance, parking and all that other stuff.
P.S.: If I didn't have to ride on a really busy road to get to campus, or have to come back from class at ~9pm (who thought that was a good idea?) on non-lit roads, I just wouldn't bother. Everything I need on a daily basis is in a four-mile radius. I'd rather spend the money on something like a second-hand Coda or FX and a rack and panniers. And a really beefy lock!

Dear TE:
There isn't a community out there with a major research university with sidewalks, public transit, and grocery stores and apartments nearby, that's bike-friendly with reasonably weather, is there?

[jessmarimba]

Dear TE:
There isn't a community out there with a major research university with sidewalks, public transit, and grocery stores and apartments nearby, that's bike-friendly with reasonably weather, is there?

Define reasonable weather? U Wisconsin-Madison comes to mind immediately when you mention bike-friendly :)

Dear self -

Go pick up your new bike already, dammit!

(Also, Mimi, my cat also sends hugs. Or at least I think that's what she intends by crawling onto the keyboard every time I check the forum!)

[jobob]

Dear TE:
There isn't a community out there with a major research university with sidewalks, public transit, and grocery stores and apartments nearby, that's bike-friendly with reasonably weather, is there?

Berkeley? Santa Cruz? Riverside?

[NbyNW]

to whom it may concern
Besides woolweenies, this IS my favorite thread; it's where ALL of us go to get stuff off our chests. I don't really like the spotlight, especially with this situation.
I am not going to start a thread for this; if someone else does, it's fine with me, but I'd just as soon go here and read all your gripes and tribulations too, makes life more interesting.

That's fine by me too. :)

[crazycanuck]

Dear kg's

Thank you for going away...:D

Much abliged

Healthy eater :D

[Pax]

Dear TE:
There isn't a community out there with a major research university with sidewalks, public transit, and grocery stores and apartments nearby, that's bike-friendly with reasonably weather, is there?

University of Illinois... except for the weather. ;)

[OakLeaf]

Virginia Tech?

[Biciclista]

UW washington? very bikeable campus, lots of housing nearby, supermarkets, etc... you can bike all year round here!

[Pax]

Dear Students,

I'm happy that you're happy to be back amongst your friends, but could you please stop screaming?? I'm getting a headache from all the EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, HOWWASYOURSUMMER, LETSGETTOGETHERATCO'sTONIGHT!! EEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

Signed,

Staff whose been here all summer... in the peace and quiet.

[Trek420]

Berkeley? Santa Cruz? Riverside? Davis, Seattle ...

[jessmarimba]

Dear whoever decided to keep my favorite water bottle that I left on the office bathroom counter after work yesterday -

Really?? :mad:

[channlluv]

Dear TE:
There isn't a community out there with a major research university with sidewalks, public transit, and grocery stores and apartments nearby, that's bike-friendly with reasonably weather, is there?

I forget what your actual field of study is, but UC San Diego is in La Jolla and we have great weather, lots of apartments, grocery stores, a major mall, a 12-plex movie theater, and so on, all within a bike ride. And yes, lots of bike paths. You won't be the only cyclist on the street.

Roxy

[tulip]

Dear TE:
There isn't a community out there with a major research university with sidewalks, public transit, and grocery stores and apartments nearby, that's bike-friendly with reasonably weather, is there?

UNC-Chapel Hill comes to mind. Free busses.

[snapdragen]

to whom it may concern
Besides woolweenies, this IS my favorite thread; it's where ALL of us go to get stuff off our chests. I don't really like the spotlight, especially with this situation.
I am not going to start a thread for this; if someone else does, it's fine with me, but I'd just as soon go here and read all your gripes and tribulations too, makes life more interesting.

Not to mention it will help you to think about other things, if only for a few minutes. I know I needed that when my dad was sick.

Glad to hear you have good feelings about RD's docs - that is so important.

Take care mimi

[jobob]

Davis, Seattle ...


Doh, Davis, of course! (slaps head)

[Owlie]

I should have also added "reasonable cost of living for someone living on a grad student stipend (ie, poverty)!" ;)

Actually, UCSD and UC Berkeley have programs I'm interested in. But they're both really expensive, and with the current pickle that California's in, I've heard things are not so great for grad students. I've also looked at Oregon State, but don't know enough about the area (or the program) to say "yes, I want to go there."

Also, we finally got the plates off the car. After 2 hours.

[Trek420]

Doh, Davis, of course! (slaps head)

Chico has great cycling, club cycling at least and I think the town and university are pretty good. My personal bet would be on Santa Cruz.

[indysteel]

Dear dear friend:

I love you and your boys; you're like family to me. Your husband, however, is a jerk. I don't know how to respond to half of what you say about him, especially since you say most of it so matter of factly (is "factly" a word?). Today's comment was a perfect example of this: "We were going to call you Saturday about a play date in the park, but Husband realized that he 'hadn't done anything with the boys all summer,' so we went to Eagle Creek for a hike."

The father of your children, your husband, hasn't done anything with his own children for the last three months? How can that be? I can't tell if you're miserable and just too prideful to let on or if you're just resigned to the situation. From my vantage point, this is not a happy family. I've mostly held my tongue because when I have given you a bit of bait to talk openly about your marriage, you haven't taken it. But, honestly, I'm very concerned. And sad. You and the boys deserve so much more.

Signed,

A very worried surrogate aunt

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Indy, keep in mind that it was she who said that her husband "realized that he hadn't done anything with the boys all summer". It sounds like kind of sarcastic choice of words on her part.
You say "I don't know how to respond to half of what you say about him, especially since you say most of it so matter of factly"- this tells me your friend has a certain habitual and routine way of talking about her husband in a way that always paints him in a bad light. It's entirely possible that if one asked her husband directly, he could list all kinds of things he had done with his boys during summer, and might not feel he 'realized' anything to the contrary at all.

People who routinely describe their spouses in a disparaging yet matter-of-fact way often have a problem themselves. Just sayin it's something to consider.

[indysteel]

Indy, keep in mind that it was she who said that her husband "realized that he hadn't done anything with the boys all summer". It sounds like kind of sarcastic choice of words on her part.
You say "I don't know how to respond to half of what you say about him, especially since you say most of it so matter of factly"- this tells me your friend has a certain habitual and routine way of talking about her husband in a way that always paints him in a bad light. It's entirely possible that if one asked her husband directly, he could list all kinds of things he had done with his boys during summer, and might not feel he 'realized' anything to the contrary at all.

People who routinely describe their spouses in a disparaging yet matter-of-fact way often have a problem themselves. Just sayin it's something to consider.

I hear what you're saying, but this was just one comment among many, and one observation among many. If this were isolated, I would have brushed it off. I've known this family and her for a long time and have been witness to a number of situations firsthand. My assessment is this: My friend is a very independent person who married someone who is a workaholic and equally independent. They peacefully coexisted until they had kids. Now they have two young boys who require a lot of attention. That job has largely fallen on her shoulders, and they simply do not do much together as a family. I have enough friends married to wonderful fathers to appreciate the difference. Plus, part of my opinion is based on my own interactions with the guy. He's about as warm and friendly as a rattlesnake. He's just not nice.

From the first week of their elder son's life, he just hasn't been engaged. I think she battled it for a time, but then became resigned to it. I know enough about their dynamic, her husband's own family, and his tendency to put work well before everything else to conclude that this is mostly about him. Yes, she's played an active role in allowing it, but it's mostly him. Perhaps she made him feel unnecessary from the start....but his first act as a parent the day they brought their eldest home from the hospitalwas to play golf. So, I dunno.

Whatever the case, I feel bad for the boys. Putting aside the issue of blame, I don't think it's an overly happy home. And that makes me sad.

[Biciclista]

In the end, the one who will lose isn't the kids, it's the dad. They realize at a certain point that mom is there for them and dad isn't; and he's the one who dies lonely.

[Catrin]

It is difficult to watch a friend in this kind of situation, and it can be difficult to know how to be supportive. It would make me sad as well. It can be hard to see what is really going on from the outside of a family but it sounds like you've had enough interaction with all of them to have a good picture.

[indysteel]

In the end, the one who will lose isn't the kids, it's the dad. They realize at a certain point that mom is there for them and dad isn't; and he's the one who dies lonely.

Yeah, although when I think of my own neglectful parent (mom), it causes me much pain. Of course, my dad wasn't much better. They at least have a great and loving mom.

In sharing my thoughts about this family, I want to make clear that I'm smart enough to appreciate that things are never black and white, which is one of the reasons I've held my tongue. But the comments/observations are starting to add up enough that I feel like it might be a subject worth talking about with her. Delicately.

[channlluv]

Dear whoever decided to keep my favorite water bottle that I left on the office bathroom counter after work yesterday -

Really?? :mad:

Do the office cleaning staff have a lost and found?

Roxy

[emily_in_nc]

UNC-Chapel Hill comes to mind. Free busses.

I read through the thread to see if I needed to post this. I see tulip already has. Chapel Hill/Carrboro has a lot to recommend it per your requirements. I wish when I was a student here, oh so many years ago, that cycling had been "big". As it was, I didn't know a single person (male or female) who rode a bike while I attended UNC ('79 to '83), so it wasn't something I even thought of. If I were a student here now, I'd so ride everywhere. I do that as much as possible even as a 50-year old alumna! :D

And the free busses are great.

[tulip]

I read through the thread to see if I needed to post this. I see tulip already has. Chapel Hill/Carrboro has a lot to recommend it per your requirements. I wish when I was a student here, oh so many years ago, that cycling had been "big". As it was, I didn't know a single person (male or female) who rode a bike while I attended UNC ('79 to '83), so it wasn't something I even thought of. If I were a student here now, I'd so ride everywhere. I do that as much as possible even as a 50-year old alumna! :D

And the free busses are great.

by the time I got there (1985), there were a few bikes, but by 1987 (my sophomore year because I took a year off after freshman year) I had one of the first mountain bikes around. It attracted alot of attention. My freshman year I lived in Morrison (9th floor) and there was no way I was going to lug a bike up all those stairs. The elevators either never worked or smelled like a frat house. Either way, I took the stairs.

When I went back for grad school (1997-99), everyone had bikes. It was great. But the busses weren't free until later.

[jelee1311]

Dear doctors, nurses,friends,and family, Thank you for doing such a good job on my DD tonsilectomy. All of your caring and concern has meant the world to us. She's doing great and eating lots of ice cream.:)

[MM_QFC!]

Hey Mimi - just saw your news and want to send my own big hugs to you and Don. This is a hit but you're facing it together and it'll make you stronger for it.

[Blueberry]

Dear Mom-

I'm frustrated. Really frustrated. I put myself through college without your bothering to even pay the parent contribution, provided summer housing for myself during that time and worked to provide food/books/etc., with my partner's help been through law school and paid off almost all of the loans, and worked for a number of years. You've not been there when I moved (even in college), bought a house, when I could have used a shoulder, or when I needed financial help. Since I don't know when - probably sometime in high school - but even then, it was my grandparents.

Now - you expect me to come to visit you without my partner (because you can't be bother to deal with him despite the fact that he's a wonderful person who has give you no reason to dislike him) to help you clean up the wreck that is your life. Where were you when I needed you? Heck, where are you now? We're not having an easy time either with the economy, and are trying to clean out the crud you dumped on us so we can downsize if we need to. I could live without the guilt trips, and I really don't appreciate your trying to put a wedge in between me and the person I've been in a relationship with for 16 years (and married to for 11). Didn't you learn you lesson on that one after you wrecked my high school graduation?

Back off, and maybe, just maybe, we can have a relationship (though I don't think it will ever be normal, and it certainly won't be the 5 phone call a day nightmare you want).

[tulip]

((((((Blueberry))))))

[Biciclista]

Stick to your guns, Blueberry, you're RIGHT!

[Sky King]

Dear Parks Department,
Why is it that the biggest park, known for a meeting place for cyclists doesn't have decent bike rack? Seriously, there are bike riders who use their bikes for transportation, not just sport and we'd like a safe spot to lock our vehicle (ie bike) I had to ride a 1/2 mile away to the local brew pub for a decent bike rack so I could go on a hike with friends.

[channlluv]

Blueberry, I recognize this pattern of behavior. Your mother doesn't want to deal with your partner because he's been better for you than she ever was. You've accomplished a lot on your own, without her help, and maybe even in spite of her actions or non-actions. She's probably feeling guilty for not being a better parent to you, and that's the source of her laying guilt trips on you. If you feel guilty for not being a better daughter, she can ignore her own part in your upbringing.

I think I'd dump every piece of furniture or whatever she's dumped on you. Just donate it to Goodwill or have Amvets come pick it up or something. It's obviously not blessing you. Let it bless someone else.

I get rid of more stuff like that. It's not blessing me. Let it bless someone else. I wish it were that easy to get rid of the non-blessing emotional attachments.

Do you feel responsible for her? My mother sometimes calls me four or five times a day. She's lonely a lot and needy, but I had a similar lack-of-parenting upbringing. I often ignore her calls. She'll leave a message. I can return it or delete it, but it's my choice.

You're doing the right thing. Stand tall.

Roxy

[Owlie]

((Blueberry))
Dear jerk in a Cadillac--
I can only go as fast as the vehicle in front of me. When this vehicle is a semi on a winding road, that isn't going to be all that fast. Riding my back bumper is not going to magically make me go faster, nor is it going to make that semi disappear. Moron.
By the way, had you rear-ended me with the bike on the back, I'd have jammed that old tube in the back seat down your throat. FYI.

The Honda driver.

(Not-so?) Dear LBS,
I've always had my reservations about you, but you were the only game I knew of at the time, you are the only one in town that carries Giant (so I figured you should know about its little quirks, which you do), and the fact that I liked the wrenches (at least, most of them) made up for the sometimes spotty customer service record. (And just so you know, while the managers and a few other people are really good, the sixteen-year-old salespeople...let's just say I know more about what they're selling than they do.)

Your new location, while extremely convenient, has sadly put another shop out of business. While I haven't dealt with this shop much (its location on a busy road doesn't help anything), the couple times I went in there, the salespeople knew their products. The owner took half an hour to check what was wrong with the fit on my Giant, offered some suggestions (even though this shop didn't offer fitting services) to make it more comfortable, and ran through some specs with me of the Madone models I was looking at. I don't know how, but the way you do things has put a really nice little shop out of business.

I feel dirty.

[Becky]

Dear Laptop-

First, your battery life went to he!! in a handbasket, and now the battery won't charge at all :mad: I sincerely hope that the new battery that I just ordered fixes the problem....it really wasn't money that I had planned on spending!

Love,
Grouchy

[Blueberry]

Thank you Tulip, Mimi, Roxy & Owlie - I'm feeling better about my decisions, and do plan to stick to my guns:)

[NbyNW]

Dearest wet puppydog,

I love you very much, but please let me eat my dinner in peace.

Love,
That person who takes care of you when your "fun parent" is away.

[ultraviolet]

Dear half-siblings,

Honestly? No, the amount of money my parents seem to spend on travel and entertainment does not concern me. It shouldn't concern you, either. It's none of our business.

They've told you on numerous occasions that their burial arrangements have already been handled, so no one need be concerned about that. Their house is paid for in full, they have no out-of-pocket medical expenses because dad spent 30+ years of his life serving in the military, they only make big purchases with cash, the two credit cards they have are paid in full every month, and they spent their entire working lives together planning and saving for their retirement so they have a pretty decent handle on their finances.

In case you need a reminder, dad is 82 years old now and he has cancer...on top of plenty of other issues. He also loves to travel and gather new experiences, so that's what my mother is trying to make sure he gets to do in the time between all of his medical appointments, tests and scans.

If this is how they want to spend their money, shut up and let them have at it.

Somehow, I think your concern is less about their financial well-being and more about how much you think you'll be getting after dad passes. Buttheads.

Annoyed,
/me

[Crankin]

+1 Blueberry.
I am a firm believer in setting firm boundaries or even excluding relatives who are toxic. I have some friends who think I am incredibly mean and uncaring, but, I need to be around people who are positive and mentally healthy, not manipulative and needy.

[Biciclista]

To whom it may concern
It really was crazy to let our Italian friends stay with us for almost 2 months! Screaming baby, backed up sink, no peace and quiet, oh my, the quiet. DH took them to the airport tomorrow and I walked around the house in a daze - it seemed so empty. We're really going to miss them. It was an opportunity of a lifetime and now it's over.
When opportunity knocks, say yes and don't look back. I'm glad we did.

[mudmucker]

Dear Health Care Gods:

Thank you for letting me find myself in a situation where I have excellent health care benefits, and an employer who offers a choice for these benefits. After $750, I pay nothing. And even up to 2 years ago, I didn't even have that deductible. This is the summer of the second oncologist, the first, still my pal for another 3.5 years. Over the last 2 months with at least 24 blood draws, an MRI, a couple of ultrasounds, and as of 2 days ago a core axillary lymph node biopsy with 5 samples, they are looking for a possible new cancer. I've looked online at the new claims I no longer have to pay. Wow - I certainly have gotten my money's worth out of all the years of premiums I've paid. It's funny, after going through the first cancer, biopsies, waiting for results, visits to the cancer wing simply feel like going to my primary for strep throat or something. Get it done, then on my way an off to work like any other day. It's that routine. I do not fret, I'm not anxious, I have fun, I sleep at night, and I enjoy my vacation. Fate will play it's way into your life in one way or another. Just live with optimism :)

Speaking of which, I hope RaleighDon is doing ok.
And Marni seems to be on her way.....

[Owlie]

Not-dear old electric company (and gas company):
I paid the bills myself, on time, for a year. And apparently none of this came up in the credit check, so I'm stuck paying the new electric company a rather large security deposit. I can almost understand the electricity, because they spelled my first name incorrectly (though it should still be tied to my SSN) and never corrected it even though I called about it. I don't understand why the gas thing isn't on there, since they actually got that right.:mad:

Not-dear new electric company--
Is it because nothing came up in the credit history check? The fact that I'm a student? Or the fact that I have never had service with you before? I'm an unknown quantity, and according to your company policy, that means I'm automatically not going to make payments on time? How the heck do you spend $60 a month for a 1BR apartment, anyway? (Granted, the stove and heat is electric, but still, I was paying $30 a month for a two-bedroom with a power hog computer in the mix.) I'd better get that deposit back with interest, jerks.
And your hold music is incredibly irritating.

[Biciclista]

Dear Mudmucker
My goodness hearing from you gives me an entirely new perspective on this cancer thing. Raleighdon is still going to appointment after appointment, but we believe that after today we will have A PLAN and chemo/radiation to commence...
thanks for your good thoughts.

[salsabike]

Yes, Mudmucker. Thank you for that post.

[indysteel]

Mudmaker, I'm so glad you have good insurance, and I hope that your prognosis is good. Your positive attitude is inspiring.

[indysteel]

Not-dear old electric company (and gas company):
I paid the bills myself, on time, for a year. And apparently none of this came up in the credit check, so I'm stuck paying the new electric company a rather large security deposit. I can almost understand the electricity, because they spelled my first name incorrectly (though it should still be tied to my SSN) and never corrected it even though I called about it. I don't understand why the gas thing isn't on there, since they actually got that right.:mad:

Not-dear new electric company--
Is it because nothing came up in the credit history check? The fact that I'm a student? Or the fact that I have never had service with you before? I'm an unknown quantity, and according to your company policy, that means I'm automatically not going to make payments on time? How the heck do you spend $60 a month for a 1BR apartment, anyway? (Granted, the stove and heat is electric, but still, I was paying $30 a month for a two-bedroom with a power hog computer in the mix.) I'd better get that deposit back with interest, jerks.
And your hold music is incredibly irritating.

Have you ever run a credit report for yourself, Owlie? It might be a good idea to start monitoring it every so often. My guess is that even if you paid your utility bills on time for a year, you still don't have much of a credit history. A lack of credit history is about the same as a bad credit history, which might explain why you're paying a large deposit to get service. Do you have a credit card? If and only if you can be disciplined about paying it off (and I can't stress that enough), put a minor amount on it each month and never carry a balance. It'll help you build your credit such that when you go to make your first big purchases on credit, e.g., a car, you'll have some history to work with. Do not open multiple charge accounts. Stick to one and keep it open with a low credit limit. Use it judiciously.

[Blueberry]

Owlie-

Most utilities don't report to Credit Bureaus for good stuff. Sometimes not even bad stuff. So they're not building up your credit, sadly. Learned this one the hard way. Indysteel has given you wise advice - one card, pay it off monthly (but do use it). That will help. Credit does take time to build, though....

[Crankin]

Mudmucker, I am sorry you are going through this again. I like your attitude.
If you ever want to ride, let me know, although you will probably drop me like a hot potato.
I have similarly great insurance, with no deductible and no referrals required. I went to so many specialists when I was sick a few years ago, and they didn't question one thing. They paid for all of my DH's angioplasty, second opinions at the Brigham and MGH. They even paid for one of my kids to have an experimental surgery to cure his Raynauds, out of state (it worked).
I worry about what will happen when DH retires... he is hoping to work out a deal with the company to get some kind of help with maintaining this coverage... although we still have awhile.

[Biciclista]

happiness is when you discover that it really is easier to ride your bike to the doctor appointment then it is to drive (and park and pay for parking) or take the bus.
Then even better was waiting in the dr's office with my DH and my DS, all of us in bike duds. and then riding home on a perfect day with my honey.
Chemo & Radiation starts on Monday. scary stuff.

[marni]

dear biciclista,

Hang in there, it is scary, but you ride, you can do it.

Mudmucker, I am so sorry that you are back in the fray, but bless the insurance.

marni

[Owlie]

((Mudmucker, Mimi and RD))

Indy et al:
If utilities don't report to credit agencies (I didn't know this), then that makes sense. I do have a CC, and I'm not putting a whole lot on it. It's far easier to charge things to it than even the debit card, so I'm a little reluctant to put anything that isn't gas on it!

Dear LBS(es):

Do you not think that women over 5'4" ride bikes? Why is there almost never anything at all that I can test ride? I'm not going to buy anything from you if I can't ride it first--or at all. While it's nice that Specialized has a 30-day return policy on even bikes (I find this hard to believe, by the way), that really isn't the point. Yes, I realize I'm a freak, but it's not like I'm looking for something that doesn't exist. It'd be nice if you had test bikes that weren't only for men, or had something from each manufacturer in my size.

I feel like I'll be stuck with this Giant forever. :(

[indysteel]

Dear daily commute:

You know how I feel about you. On a good day, I tolerate you. On a bad day, you fill me with hate and frustration. Today, however, may have been the worst day. It took me 25 minutes to get from the edge of downtown to my parking space. That's what? About a mile? That's insanity. Add that to the other 50 minutes of my drive, and I'm just not happy.

Now normally, I just grit my teeth, but today I snapped. It's no fun breaking down in sobs in your car and showing up to work looking like a wreck. My boss must think I'm losing it. But come on? I'm not sure who in city or state government made the decision to block nearly every other lane downtown for construction, but they need to be fired.

Sigh.....

P.S. Just to preempt any queries about possibly commuting by bike. It's not an option. At least not a safe one. I live 25 miles from work out of necessity, and there's no safe way to get to my job from home. Not to mention that I don't think my body could handle riding 50 miles each day.

[lph]

Can you walk? Not the entire stretch, that final mile :) It might not be fun, but at least you'd be actively moving...

I hate sitting stuck in my tincan.

[Biciclista]

LPH has a point. could you drive somewhere and walk or ride some? break it up?

[NbyNW]

Hey Indysteel,

I can't remember what line of work you are in, but can your schedule flex at all to avoid rush hour, or can some of it be done remotely, at least while all that construction is going on? I would bet that there are others at your work who are also affected, and maybe your managers might be able to work something out to make it easier for everyone.

[Catrin]

{{{Indy}}} I feel your pain on this. I suspect the coming Superbowl has a lot to do with the intensity/pace/sheer number of road projects downtown right now.

Do you have the option to flex your schedule and perhaps come in a little earlier? You know where I work...while I commute from the opposite direction I am in the office by 7 and the surface street back-up is minimal at that time. Your job might not make this a possibility but it was worth mentioning.

[indysteel]

I work for a federal court as a staff attorney to a judge. While I'm welcome to come in early and stay late, I have to be here during our business hours. So, if I come in at 7, I still have to stay until we close. Our administrative employees have a set number of hours they can telework each pay period, but that policy doesn't specifically apply to the professionals. I'm never asked my boss if I can, and he's never offered, despite knowing how much I hate the commute. He's otherwise a totally understanding boss, so the fact that he's never offered leads me to believe that it's simply not on the table. I do telework here and there when the weather is particularly bad or when I have a contractor at the house. I otherwise love my job, so I have no real beef with him wanting me here.

This happened about this time of year last year, too. When the kids go back to school, the traffic volume increases for a time. I'm just going to have to start leaving a half hour earlier, which means less sleep. I've tried going to be earlier, but my mind doesn't start to shut off until 10ish, so I just end up laying there. I'd add that even if I leave by 7 a.m., by the time I get downtown, the traffic volume is already heavy. Ugh. I miss living downtown. I feel like I'm paying for all the years I could simply walk to work.

Catrin, I have no doubt that much of this is related to the Superbowl. I'm no pro football fan, so you can imagine how I feel about that.

[Biciclista]

Indy, can't you move? sounds like living downtown would be ideal!

[indysteel]

Indy, can't you move? sounds like living downtown would be ideal!

It would be...for me. DH not so much. DH's job is about 25 miles south of our house; mine's about 25 miles north. When we decided to marry, we picked a town that's roughly halfway between our two jobs. I got the short end of the commuting stick because I have traffic and he doesn't. From a job standpoint, both of us are where we want/need to be. He works as a process engineer for one of the biggest engine manufacturers in the world. I have one of the least stressful jobs a decently paid attorney can have. I may be forced to find a new job when my boss retires in three yeas, so until then, I'm commuting.

If we moved farther north, we'd be in suburban hell in the town where I actually grew up. It would be worse there in a lot of ways than where we currently live because it's one gigantic strip mall (with the congestion that suggests). At least we can ride from our house and be in the country in five minutes or drive to the best park in the state for mountain biking in roughly 45minutes. Most days, I'm able to tolerate it, but today was just a bad day.

We have a vacation coming up (a weeklong tour of the Katy Trail). It will do us good. DH had been working a lot lately because his plant is rolling a new engine into production. They're down a couple of engineers, so they're all pretty stressed out. I think his stress is spilling over to me at home in that I've had to pick up the slack on some things that he ordinarily helps with.

Trust me; most days these issues are kept well into perspective. Today, not so much. I'm still not convinced that my thyroid isn't wonky, too. I have my first endocrinologist appointment tomorrow morning; hopefully, I'll learn more soon.

Sorry for the pity party folks. I just needed to vent. Thank goodness for this thread.

[Pax]

I feel for you Indy, I have no idea where public works planners get their ideas. I'm fighting with the city right now, they are rerouting traffic from a major through-way right down our little tiny residential street. There's barely room for two cars to pass and now we have buses and semi's winding their way down the street. :confused:

[indysteel]

I feel for you Indy, I have no idea where public works planners get their ideas. I'm fighting with the city right now, they are rerouting traffic from a major through-way right down our little tiny residential street. There's barely room for two cars to pass and now we have buses and semi's winding their way down the street. :confused:

Oh, that's bad.

There's talk of a high speed rail network that would link my community to downtown (and beyond). I'm not superconfident--especially with state, city and county budgets as they are--that it'll happen anytime soon, or at all, but the thought of it sends me into book-reading bliss. I can't imagine how different life would be with that as an option. I'd be more than happy to fork over tax dollars for it.

[mudmucker]

Dear Mudmucker
My goodness hearing from you gives me an entirely new perspective on this cancer thing.

My perspective changed the first time I went to the cancer institute...you've probably noted this too. Even though I'm used to it - I'm continually shaking my head - every time I go to the oncological medical facility, the waiting room is packed. So many patients, during one appt interval, on one day, in one facility, in one city....

So I see RD starts chemo/rad on Monday. So then, no surgery?



If you ever want to ride, let me know, although you will probably drop me like a hot potato.

Ha. I don't think I'm dropping anyone, at this time, this year. Other than this current nonsense, I unfortunately had several "other" physical setbacks that has kept me off the bike for most of the summer. I hope to start up again by next week but right at the time when I'm usually peaking (as is everyone else), I'll just be starting up. I'll be at the same fitness level as I would be coming out of winter, maybe less. I doubt I could ride 20 miles without getting fatigued or winded. Usually my body responds rapidly once I get into it - I hope so this time too.

At any rate, winter :eek: will be approaching before we know it. We can always get folks together for some skiing.

[Biciclista]

Dear Mudmucker
oh yes, Surgery after he heals from the chemo/radiation. Maybe in November.. late october, not sure. Today he got tattoos! (what fun! oh boy!)

[Crankin]

Mudmucker, I *know* you will drop me in the skiing!
Seriously, PM me, if you want to ride.

[bmccasland]

Dear Calypso,
There is a nice litter box in the bathroom, I'd appreciate it if you used that instead of pooping in the hall. :mad:

[Catrin]

Dear Calf,

Thank you for finally healing from the dog bite :D It took you 4 MONTHS to heal completely - while I understand it was a bad bite need it have taken quite so long? Regardless, thank you for finally getting with the program and healing!

A thankful Catrin

[limewave]

Dear DH,

If I want to tape my Garmin to my mntn bike, that's my dealio. No, I do not want the bike mount. I like taping it to my bike, then I don't have to worry about it falling off when I crash. Why it is any concern of yours? I know it may not look "cool" but it's functional, cheap, and works for me. I'm happy.

I will also continue to tape other things to my bike including Gu packets. So easy! So convenient! They are right where I need them and in one swift move I've removed it from my handle bars and it's opened and ready to consume! No fumbling around in a jersey pocket or trying to open a bag.

Be embarrassed. Make fun. We both know that I am closing the gap on you (heh-heh-heh!) and you just can't stand it! BTW: your bike shorts have a HUGE HOLE IN THE A**.

You loving wife. :)

[Biciclista]

(((Limewave))) that's really cute.

[Blueberry]

Dear Irene:

Please go out to sea. Right now, you are headed squarely for my mom's house. Think east - I hear it's nice out in the middle of the Atlantic.

[withm]

Dear Irene:

Please go out to sea. Right now, you are headed squarely for my mom's house. Think east - I hear it's nice out in the middle of the Atlantic.

Irene is headed straight to my house. Not sure if my bigger threat is a tree (lots of them) falling on my house, or flooding. The roof is new and assuming it was done right, should be OK. I had 14-16" water in the front yard after a bad Nor'easter a couple years ago - almost up to the 3rd step. I have a very bad feeling about this one.

[indysteel]

Irene is headed straight to my house. Not sure if my bigger threat is a tree (lots of them) falling on my house, or flooding. The roof is new and assuming it was done right, should be OK. I had 14-16" water in the front yard after a bad Nor'easter a couple years ago - almost up to the 3rd step. I have a very bad feeling about this one.

Yikes. I'll keep all of you in Irene's path in my thoughts.

[indysteel]

Dear thyroid.

I don't like you. Why can't you just behave like you're supposed to? I don't want to have Graves' Disease. I don't want even more eye problems than I already have. I don't want my endo to scrunch her face up when I ask her if it's okay to exercise (and go on a bike tour in two weeks that's already paid for). I don't want to fit in multiple doctors visits in my already busy schedule. I don't want to feel like I'm going to burst into tears and not know if that's "just my thyroid" or if I'm having a legitimate emotional response to stress.

Grrrr.

That is all. For now.

[Catrin]

(((Indy))) BTDT, if it does turn out to be Graves and you want to talk about it you know how to reach me. You are a strong woman and can stand up to it, but hopefully it will turn out to not be the problem. I had this very badly in my 20's and still remember what it was like.

I hope Irene turns out not be a problem, scary stuff indeed for those in her path. Sending good hopes, thoughts, and prayers for all TE members who might be in the path of the storm.

[limewave]

Dear Ladies that just moved here from Chicago,

I find it interesting that you gave everything up because you believe "The End is Near." I'm not one to judge. Afterall, I'm not God and I don't claim to know what his plans are. But to leave your jobs, your homes, your friends . . . to come here . . . well, I mean if "The End" is truly near, does it matter where you are when it happens?

Moving on . . .
I just want to warn you that "The End" might be a little nearer and closer than you think. The several tons of sand bags you've hired men to stack in all the rooms on the main floor (to hide you from the satelites) is several tons! Just what you've done so far is the equivalent of driving 3 of DH's big work trucks into your living room. Your safe room below is not that safe given it's quite likely the floor above you is going to collapse.

Stay safe,
Limewave
p.s. if Chicago does implode and it looks like "The End" is here, you may find us knocking on your well-stocked, satellite-proofed, safe-house.

[Catrin]

Wow! At least you know where you can go if they are right... Where are you anyway?

[indysteel]

Dear Ladies that just moved here from Chicago,

I find it interesting that you gave everything up because you believe "The End is Near." I'm not one to judge. Afterall, I'm not God and I don't claim to know what his plans are. But to leave your jobs, your homes, your friends . . . to come here . . . well, I mean if "The End" is truly near, does it matter where you are when it happens?

Moving on . . .
I just want to warn you that "The End" might be a little nearer and closer than you think. The several tons of sand bags you've hired men to stack in all the rooms on the main floor (to hide you from the satelites) is several tons! Just what you've done so far is the equivalent of driving 3 of DH's big work trucks into your living room. Your safe room below is not that safe given it's quite likely the floor above you is going to collapse.

Stay safe,
Limewave
p.s. if Chicago does implode and it looks like "The End" is here, you may find us knocking on your well-stocked, satellite-proofed, safe-house.

Uh, what? You have people that have moved to your town for the Rapture and they're using sandbags in their own homes to hide from satellites? I don't get it. Let's just say it is "the End." Then onto the next life we go or we become worm food. No sandbags necessary. Or maybe I just don't understand. What, exactly, are they hiding from?

[lph]

Sounds to me like they just want to feel safe. Without much consideration as to what the danger is, just a need to feel protected. Just amateur psychologist doodling here, but since safety is a strong and basic need, like eating, I guess it stands to reason that you can have all kinds of disorders connected to that too. Sounds pretty bizarre, though.

[limewave]

I'm not sure its the Rapture. I'm a little confused myself. From my understanding, they believe a giant earthquake is going to hit Chicago, separating it or completely destroying it . . . I'm not certain. And there may be aliens.

I just did some googling and found some weird stuff that seems to align information found in relation to "Elenin Comet."

It's giving me the heebie-jeebies so I'm going to pretend I didn't read anything about it.

[indysteel]

I'm not sure its the Rapture. I'm a little confused myself. From my understanding, they believe a giant earthquake is going to hit Chicago, separating it or completely destroying it . . . I'm not certain. And there may be aliens.

I just did some googling and found some weird stuff that seems to align information found in relation to "Elenin Comet."

It's giving me the heebie-jeebies so I'm going to pretend I didn't read anything about it.

Okie doke. How do you know these folks?

[limewave]

Okie doke. How do you know these folks?

They hired one DH's employees to move the sand. This employee asked DH if he wanted to help, make some extra $$. Dh went over, took a look, and decided best not to have a part in it.

[Biciclista]

oh these people sound really sharp Limewave. Of course if it really IS the rapture, the "lucky" ones will not become worm food, they will float up to the sky and disappear!

sandbags in their houses? oh wow...

[indysteel]

They hired one DH's employees to move the sand. This employee asked DH if he wanted to help, make some extra $$. Dh went over, took a look, and decided best not to have a part in it.

Wise decision!

[withm]

I think I could use some of those sandbags!

[Biciclista]

I think I could use some of those sandbags!

no kidding. :eek::eek::eek:

[limewave]

I think I could use some of those sandbags!

That would definitely be a better use! Stay safe!

[Blueberry]

Dear Mom:

You live on the water, and there is a category 3 hurricane headed straight for you. I realize this is "too much stress" and you're overwhelmed. But, in the name of all that is good, please think about packing your crap in your car and leaving. Your yard flooded with the last storm - badly. Your house might be next. At the very least - please consider preparing for the storm - it's really a good idea.

[snapdragen]

They hired one DH's employees to move the sand. This employee asked DH if he wanted to help, make some extra $$. Dh went over, took a look, and decided best not to have a part in it.

Are the windows lined with tinfoil? Or do they just wear the hats......

[Crankin]

Please, hurricane, do not knock down the trees in the pretty woods that surround my house.
I just realized that in the last hurricane, my house was not so near the trees.
At least I live on the top of a hill.

[bmccasland]

Alright y'all on the east coast, have food and water for about 3 days - food that does not need refrigeration, and you can heat on a camp stove. You do have fuel for your camp stove right?

Make certain that if it isn't permanently attached to the ground outside, that you pick it up and bring it inside. Stuff left in the yard will become airborne, trust me on this.

Tape on the windows doesn't do diddly except make your glass sticky. If the windows rattle during the storm, make certain that you aren't near them.

Good luck!

[Trek420]

... they believe a giant earthquake is going to hit Chicago, separating it or completely destroying it . . . I'm not certain. And there may be aliens.

Maybe this organization can help you out after the quake ... or aliens :rolleyes:

http://rapture-relief.org/

[limewave]

Are the windows lined with tinfoil? Or do they just wear the hats......

They were expressing concern that they couldn't open their basement windows . . . DH told them it probably had something to do with the ton of sand on the floor above :eek:

[redrhodie]

Alright y'all on the east coast, have food and water for about 3 days - food that does not need refrigeration, and you can heat on a camp stove. You do have fuel for your camp stove right?

Make certain that if it isn't permanently attached to the ground outside, that you pick it up and bring it inside. Stuff left in the yard will become airborne, trust me on this.

Tape on the windows doesn't do diddly except make your glass sticky. If the windows rattle during the storm, make certain that you aren't near them.

Good luck!

Thanks for that! I'm hoping we won't lose gas for cooking. What's your take on that (town gas)? I have other things to eat, just in case, and several gallons of water, and I'll be filling the tub. I'm also doing laundry today so there will be lots of clean clothes.

My friend just put up a cute little gazebo. It was a b!tch to set up. I'm thinking I'll be finding out it is also a pain to take down tomorrow. She's thinking of just taking the top off, which is cloth. I'm thinking, it's going to blow away, so the whole thing needs to be dealt with.

[Blueberry]

At least she's weakening - and the track is shifting East. Crossing fingers....

[Desert Tortoise]

For Hurricane Rita, my sister and her DH did all the preps, food, water, board windows, made sure important documents were sealed and put in a safe place, etc.

But the oddest one and actually made sense once I thought about it, take a shower right before the thing hits. People might not have running water to bathe and this being Texas, well everyone knows what the heat and humidity does, you don't know when you'll get to shower again.

Just a thought. :)

[alexis_the_tiny]

Dear Parents, you DO realize that it is now about a WEEK after the date you said you'd return to Singapore? Don't you? And there has not been a single telephone call or text message or email until the text message I sent you today, which you replied saying you were busy in India. WHAT are you doing in INDIA? You guys work in CHINA!! Now, I'm not by any lengths dying for you guys to return home because we can't really live together that well in the same house but at the same time, something telling me that you're alive as opposed to lying dead in a ditch somewhere would be nice? Especially after 2 months of being away? Yeah.

Oh and its the presidential elections tomorrow. It's apparently a crime not to vote. I hope you guys remember that. Have a good time in India.

Your 'has-turned-25-but-you-guys-don't-realize-that-because-you've-been-away-for-a-decade' daughter...

[Biciclista]

(((alexis)))

[Owlie]

Dear BF--

I'm not sure I can take this. Eight months (with you coming to see me a few times), I can handle. Two years (but probably more) with very limited travel prospects? I don't know. This is going to suck.
:(

Love,
Me.

[Biciclista]

Dear TE ladies
Well, Raleighdon starts his "therapy" on Monday. With notebook and cellphone, he is checking into the WIFI-equipped hospital. He's gained at least 5 pounds this week, is upbeat and happy with his doctors, his team.
I am scared, but he is as always valiant and upbeat. I guess he will feel terrible in a few days, but that's the cure. !
I am thinking about all you east coasters, the last hurricane i was in was Jeanne, and it felt like being in a giant washing machine for 24 hours. This one is bigger and harder. EEEK

[Crankin]

Good luck, Mimi. I would be scared to death, too. My DH was so upbeat during his angioplasty that I wanted to hit him. He never acted like anything bad could happen. And he was out riding up huge hills, 5 days later, despite what everyone said, including the doctor. I suspect your DH is similar.

[Biciclista]

five days after an angioplasty he was doing hills?? :eek: uh, yeah, that does sound like DH...

[Owlie]

Crankin: :eek:

Good luck, Mimi and RD. Thinking of you.

Dear half the cyclists on the trail:
Is saying "on your left!" really so hard? Really?

Dear Cannondale and Specialized Representatives:
Thank you for not treating me like I'm an idiot. Is it sad that this is unusual? (Though I think you heard the word "Ultegra" and rapidly went "Oh, she's serious!")

[snapdragen]

Good luck to you and RD - his attitude sounds perfect! Be sure to take care of yourself too, ask for help if you need it.

[snapdragen]

Dear waterheater. Breaking? On a Saturday? Really?

:mad:

[jelee1311]

Mimi sending good thoughts your way, take care.

[Crankin]

Yes, we were supposed to lead our first ride for AMC exactly a week after his surgery. He started walking 2 days after the surgery (2 stents put in), 2-4 miles, and then did a couple of flat rides. I got someone else to help me lead the ride, and after the first half of the ride, found him sitting on a stone wall at the top of one of the biggest climbs in Harvard, MA. I was pissed, but figured if he hadn't already croaked, we were good. I was more worried about the incision than anything else.

[Sky King]

not on the same level but my DH rode 25 miles the day after his vasectomy ...

Mimi, i am a huge card sender would love to send something funny. Will send you a PM for address

[Possegal]

Mimi - after many years working in oncology, one of the things I always tell people is that they need to be sure to tell their doctors any problems they are having. I find that people seem to think "chemo, so I am supposed to feel horrible". Not that chemo isn't horrible, but we have a lot of medications that can ameliorate many of the worse side effects and there is no reason to not avail oneself of them. I call it the "hollywood effect", where people just suffer in silence because that is how it should be. I remember coming home one weekend and finding my sister looking like crap. No one had called me. No one had called her doctor. She hadn't eaten in days because of nausea. I got her some Zofran and the next day she sent me out for a burger for her.

Take home message - no need to suffer in silence. Tell the doctors, as there may be some medication to help.

Thinking of you both and sending many prayers and good thoughts your way!

[NbyNW]

Good luck Mimi and RaleighDon. Tell those rogue cells who's the boss.

And let us know if you need anything.

[tulip]

Dear Irene,

Good Night, already!!!

-tulip, who really is tired of being afraid that a tree is going to fall on her house with her and her lovely dog inside.

[jelee1311]

Tulip and all TE peeps on the East coast, Helluva last few weeks. Good luck and please stay safe.

[jelee1311]

Dear girlie bits, so sorry I ran out of chamios cream and got talked into using DH european menthol stuff before the 25 mile ladies ride. There wasn't a smell to it so I didn't know,never again will you have to feel minty fresh coolness and burning. I already bought a new tube. Love ,me

[Biciclista]

minty fresh coolness and burning? :eek::eek::eek:

Possegal, that's one of the good things about him STARTING in the hospital, he'll have lots of drs and nurses observing him in the first couple days. Thanks for your great advice.

[Owlie]

Dear body:
Come on, it's not like I've been trying to lose weight. Now most of my jeans are huge on me, and the two I can fit into are too tight in the thighs--only slightly, but it's more than "I haven't worn these for three months"-tight. I can't really do only two pairs, even if I wear them multiple days in a row, and I'm too poor to afford new ones!

Dear TE women:
How do you all find jeans?! If I rode any more, I don't think I'd be able to fit into any!

Dear fashion industry:
When did you decide that "bootcut" jeans means "this far away from being skinny" jeans?

Dear deer:
Running in front of cars is not very nice, for you or me. Please modify your behavior accordingly.

[jessmarimba]

Dear body:
Come on, it's not like I've been trying to lose weight. Now most of my jeans are huge on me, and the two I can fit into are too tight in the thighs--only slightly, but it's more than "I haven't worn these for three months"-tight. I can't really do only two pairs, even if I wear them multiple days in a row, and I'm too poor to afford new ones!

Dear TE women:
How do you all find jeans?! If I rode any more, I don't think I'd be able to fit into any!

Dear fashion industry:
When did you decide that "bootcut" jeans means "this far away from being skinny" jeans?

Dear deer:
Running in front of cars is not very nice, for you or me. Please modify your behavior accordingly.

Gap ones seem to now stretch to fit me fairly well, but the fabric is thinner so they won't last as long. And I'm a thrift store expert. :p I have two favorite pairs right now and a few more that occasionally rotate in. I have a much harder time finding khakis, which I'm "supposed" to have for work. (Fortunately, "khaki" means "any non-denim pants" and since I usually wear them while wandering around in the woods, I have a few REI pants that work)

[jessmarimba]

Dear coffee maker:

I was upset with you for quitting on me, but you've been forgiven. And forgotten. Now that I've been forced to start using a french press in the morning...I will never go the way of a drip coffee maker again.

Blissfully yours,
Ms. Over-caffeinated :)

[Owlie]

Gap ones seem to now stretch to fit me fairly well, but the fabric is thinner so they won't last as long. And I'm a thrift store expert. :p I have two favorite pairs right now and a few more that occasionally rotate in. I have a much harder time finding khakis, which I'm "supposed" to have for work. (Fortunately, "khaki" means "any non-denim pants" and since I usually wear them while wandering around in the woods, I have a few REI pants that work)

I like Gap's jeans--in fact, I bit the bullet and bought some today, as well as some "nice" pants, at a discount. My only problem with the fabric, since I'm relatively gentle on my clothes, is you have to buy at least a size down. I have 8s (granted, from two years ago) that are a little loose straight out of the dryer, but will fall off if worn for more than an hour. My 6s are fine (at least, as far as I know), and the jeans I bought today were size 4! :eek:

[Biciclista]

I tend to shop at good will and value village for jeans because they are pre-shrunk. Anymore, I get men's jeans because I can't stand the tight cuts and short rises on women's jeans anymore.

[Owlie]

Heh, I like lower-rise jeans. My torso is so short that if I wore regular-rise jeans, the waistband would be somewhere around my rib cage!

[Biciclista]

To whom it may concern
very funny. What I need on the Sunday before DH checks into the hospital for treatment is the first bladder infection I've had since 1971??????
Yes, ladies, I am drinking LOTS and LOTS now, since MY doctor takes Sundays off. (as well she should)
:confused::confused::confused:

[VeganBikeChick]

Dear coffee maker:

I was upset with you for quitting on me, but you've been forgiven. And forgotten. Now that I've been forced to start using a french press in the morning...I will never go the way of a drip coffee maker again.



Aren't French Presses great? Same thing happened to my coffeemaker, and I finally got a burr grinder that coarse grinds perfectly! No more "soot" in the bottom of my cup :)

[maillotpois]

Mimi - also try over the counter uristat or EZO, which are the pyridium painkiller and are a godsend for me if I get a UTI over a weekend, etc.

[OakLeaf]

Pure cranberry juice is expensive and very tart, but it cures the majority of UTIs I've had. OTC Cystex has an antimicrobial as well as an anesthetic. Hope you feel better soon ... and go to urgent care if those remedies don't work, you don't need to be miserable any longer than necessary.

[Biciclista]

it's not THAT bad, I don't need urgent care or painkiller
but I never heard of Uristat or EZO, thank you I will check that stuff out today!!
got the cran juice already thanks again. I think serious flushing (drinking) will get me through the next 24 hours easily.