How much do looks define your self-image?

[Mr. Bloom]

I think the superficial norms you refer to are media hype and not mainstream belief. Superficial people hold on to those icons...not mainstream folks.

I acknowledge that the hype doesn't apply it in the same way to men...but I assure you that men apply the same standard to themselves. Barbara Walters (I think??) interviewed Paul Newman and essentially asked him if he knew what a hottie he was...his response was "I feel ancient"... I could only hope to be half as ancient as him at that age.

Don't confuse "hot" with "attractive" or "desirable"...what made Paul Newman desirable as he aged was an attitude, an energy, and a graceful disposition.

I think of Sarah Cannon (Minnie Pearl)...there was nothing "hot" about her or her character, but when she walked into a room, the room was filled with her grace and class...and she had LOTS of it.

Attractiveness comes from within, in the attitude...not from age or media hype

JMHO

PS: Sorry, I've not followed the "best bike advice" thread...