i got yelled at today

[Zen]

Or, should I just call the guy, have the molds sent, and be done with it?

ABSOLUTELY NOT
He's on his own. Obviously he's pi$$ed everybody off and thinks you might be malleable enough to do his dirty work.

Be done with him.

Do you have caller I.D.? Don't even deal with him on the phone, do everything else by email so you'll have records.

[teigyr]

I wouldn't talk to him, I wouldn't send anything to anybody, and I would pretend like he doesn't exist. That includes talking to his wife, other business partners, or anybody else to do with this.

That's just me though I know you did a lot of work for free but you should give up nothing else. That includes postage, time, or anything.

Rude. I read this earlier today and couldn't believe it. What a bully!

[Trek420]

The work you've done, till paid for by him .... or another client is yours to keep. If he wants to deliver a contract and pay you for the work done so far, and a hefty "I'm sorry I was such an **hole" fee I'd be done with him.

I'd report him to the BBB so prospective workers etc are warned.

As for the behavior on the phone that's unaceptable. I work in a call center and I don't tolerate it. Even when we've really f*cked things up and deserve to be called every name in the book you're talking to me, not a company, I'm a person. I will apologize up the yazoo if we blew it and even if we haven't done anything wrong as in "I'm sorry your payment that you mailed three months after it was due was late but..." and I can calm almost anyone down.

But I usually warn the caller I won't be talked to that way if they continue they go on hold till my ears stop ringing.

People are really rude these days.

[Bad JuJu]

I wouldn't talk to him, I wouldn't send anything to anybody, and I would pretend like he doesn't exist. That includes talking to his wife, other business partners, or anybody else to do with this.

That's just me though I know you did a lot of work for free but you should give up nothing else. That includes postage, time, or anything.

I'm 100% with teigyr on this--don't waste any more time or energy--psychic, physical, or otherwise--on these creeps. What's almost as bad as the yelling is their refusal to listen to you. Nobody should have to put up with that.

I took a pay cut to leave one job and take a new one about 7 years ago because my boss yelled at people, sometimes in public. He never yelled at me, but it was just too hard working for a guy that I knew could go off at any moment if things weren't going his way. It was well worth the $3k a year I gave up to find a place where I could do my work in peace.

[redrhodie]

Thanks for all the advice! I decided to not respond to their email requesting help in dealing with the manufacturer. I'm done!

More than him being a con-artist, I think he's a narcissist. He definitely has a grandiose sense of self and sense of entitlement that he should have outgrown by kindergarden.

Zen, I have good records including photocopies of all the pieces I designed, as well as every email sent by them and to them, which includes a lot of the issues (including how much and when I would be paid) that would have been addressed in the written contract that I never received. I wonder if this has any legal merit if, down the road, I discover they're selling the pieces I designed? At this point, I think it's unlikely that they'll be able to pull their act together (find some other poor schmuck to manipulate into producing a sellable product!), so it may be a moot point.

I had the best ride today. I rode as slow as I could, which was new for me. I saw views I had never noticed before on my regular route. Where'd that horse farm come from? Never noticed that before! Didn't think about them once. My life is back !