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  1. #1
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    I think the proof will be in the pudding so to speak - whether you lose or maintain (depending on what you want) on the new regime. I don't think you can really judge that after only a couple of weeks, so I am giving it some time to see.

    I know when I did WW 20 years ago, you didn't count carrots and fruit was less restricted than it was on the momentum plan. So the new plan feels a lot more like the old - old plan.

    This time of year is also an awfully tough time to judge a new program. Holiday parties and all.

    One thing I am doing is using my APs if at all only on the day I use them. So I will zero them out that day and not carry over. I think that's more realistic in terms of what your body actually needs for exercise and recovery. It doesn't need it the next day. Really.

    And you don't have to use all your points, I think. I would see how it goes. And remember, the points themselves are "smaller" so 29 is calorically equivalent to 18.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maillotpois View Post
    One thing I am doing is using my APs if at all only on the day I use them. So I will zero them out that day and not carry over. I think that's more realistic in terms of what your body actually needs for exercise and recovery. It doesn't need it the next day. Really.

    And you don't have to use all your points, I think. I would see how it goes. And remember, the points themselves are "smaller" so 29 is calorically equivalent to 18.

    I only use my APs on the day I earn them as well. Calories are fuel for an active body. Need to fuel to have an adequate workout.


    But, no 18 is not 29. That was partly my point. My sister's 23 or 24 also became 29. (So, old 18 is probably more like new 25-26, but since the min is 29, I got bumped to 29.) So, I think they raised the minimum # of allotted calories. That new minimum, plus the free fruit, is alot of food for me.
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    I dare say that since restarting under the new plan, I'm having a hard time eating all my minimum points for the day, since I *heart* fruit and munch on that inbetween meals now instead of the lil' 2pt snack bars or whatever. I agree that the number of calories in total seems to have gone up, but it's steering me towards better choices overall.

    My weigh in is tomorrow, which will include one hearty holiday meal and a cyclocross race with associated beer, but all within allotted points. Very curious to see what happens, but am definitely going to give this about two months before I come to any solid conclusions.

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    I'm also eligible for the 29 points a day. You get more AP's for the same amount of exercise too. On the old system, I got 18 points, and I never ate all my AP's and weeklies when I was losing.

    I'm still having a hard time adjusting. Maybe if I was sticking to it faithfully I'd be a little more sure about how it's working. Between the holiday treats and less exercise, I gained a pound this month. I'm getting more exercise and I'm ready to get back to the plan. I'm hovering around maintenance.

    BTW- my DH tried an experiment- since fruit is "free", he typed in increasing numbers of oranges. 1, 3, 10, 100... and it always said "0" points. But orange juice is 2 points a glass, and 1 dried peach is 1 point. So it's not entirely rational.
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    Hmmm, interesting that all of you that cannot eat your 29 points! Yes I am trying to use the "free fruit" option!
    So I am not really happy with new program. With old points (yep, I only could eat 18) I could at least figure things out on the fly. The new way points are calculated makes it hard to figure out on the fly. Plus I do a lot of recipes and have to type into recipe builder. I not super happy with website. Always a struggle to find a match for what I ate! I am trying to use the mobile site more on my phone and I added more favorites. Hope this helps.

    I must admit this is just week #2. Last week I didn't really try to keep in my points and just tried to get used to logging the food. This week I am trying to stick within my 29 points. I am also getting used to my meatless diet and trying many new vegetarian recipes. So balancing the amount of carbs to get my protein! So I am trying to adjust.

    Also last time I really lost weight with WW I did not use activity points except hard/long biking or run days.
    We shall see, I need to give it a chance.

    Good luck all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by katluvr View Post
    Hmmm, interesting that all of you that cannot eat your 29 points!
    I never said that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maillotpois View Post
    I never said that.
    I stand corrected!
    But some said that...I think I am just always hungry. And even more so when I wound out regularly!

    Day #2 of REALLY eating only 29 points. We shall see!

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    I lost 40 lbs on WW last year. Then due to extended work travel/vacations/holidays, I quit for the last two months of the year and gained 15 lbs back. I just started the points plus this week, and I love it. Last autumn, I was struggling to get by on 19 pts a day and I found myself dipping into my weeklies on a daily basis instead of my normal method of saving them until the end of the week and having a treat meal out with friends. Almost everything I ate every day had to be "filling" or I wouldn't make it until the next meal time. That was a lot of pressure on every single thing I put in my mouth every time I did it.

    Now I get 7 extra points to play with (my points of my typical day only went up by 3 from the oatmeal and random grain with dinner, everything else was already veggies, lean meats, fruits, milk, etc.) and I don't feel like I have to make a decision between an orange (which I would want) or a piece of cheese (which would keep me going until the next meal.) I can have have the orange, see if that works, and if not, have cheese in another hour because I have the extra points, and fruit is free.

    Granted, it's only been 3 days, and the scale movement is most likely due to the cessation of junk food (and the un-retaining of water that goes with it) but mentally, it's a lot easier for me to follow.

 

 

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