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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by tulip View Post

    This bike had disk brakes, which I would recommend for snow/ice conditions. I found fenders to be more trouble than they were worth because they constantly became loose. I was not concerned about getting dirty because my workplace had a commuter shower so I could clean up. I never rode in my work clothes because l lived 14 miles away from my office.

    I had lights for the dark mornings.
    Wonderful bike! It really fit your needs perfectly. I didn't know that about fenders. Maybe I don't want them on this bike. I was just thinking it would keep my jackets clean, but they may be more trouble than they're worth, if they come loose. I don't really know anything about disc brakes. Do they work on all kinds of bikes?

    I'm not sure at this point if I'll love snow riding so much to commute in it. I'm mostly thinking this will be for leisurely rides around town (and to avoid the trainer, since I'm dreading it!). But if I do love it, I will commute on it. Do studded tires get fewer flats than road bike tires? I'm always concerned about flatting in the freezing cold at night, and not being able to change it before my body and fingers start to freeze. One of the reasons I commute less in winter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Becky View Post

    What are you thinking for a frame? A cyclocross or 29er frame set up with dirt drops?
    Probably a 'cross bike. Would a touring bike accommodate studded tires? That might be a good option.
    Last edited by redrhodie; 11-01-2010 at 03:21 PM.
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    I don't know about the flat question. I never got a flat on that bike, but then, I commuted in DC for four years without a flat on my regular commuting bike. I always make sure my tires are properly inflated, which I think helps tremendously in preventing flats.

    Fenders do keep you and the bike cleaner, but you need to check them constantly. At least, I did. I had a situation where the fender got loose while I was riding and it worked it way down so that the tire actually rode over it. Hard to explain, but it stopped the bike in its tracks and knocked me to the ground. After that, I just took the darn things off.

    How far is your commute? Mine was 14 miles each way, and I rode into the 20F temperature range, but if it got into the teens, I'd find another solution. Sometimes that didn't work, though, as one morning when it was 9F I decided to drive rather than wait for the bus in that cold, and one mile into the drive my car stopped working because the radiator was frozen. Or something like that--I'm not a mechanic. That was unpleasant, and I would have been better off riding my bike and moving, or even better just calling in sick!

    Nokian makes studded tires for all size wheels. Cross bike should not be a problem. They are not cheap, but if you plan on riding where there is ice, it might be worth it to you. It's certainly worth it to me to avoid going down on black ice.

    I really like riding in the ice and snow. I have since sold that Dahon, but I do still have the studded tires. I have an old mountain bike that I might put them on for this winter. I no longer commute to work since I work from home, but it would be fun to go out and ride in the snow and ice this winter. We had alot last winter, but it's not consistent here.

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    My lbs guy just suggested a Specialized tricross. Anyone ride one?

    I get A LOT of flats on my commute (15 miles each way), all on one particular road that I can't avoid. It always has many broken beer bottles, which I believe are thrown out of windows of cars. I also think the garbage men are pretty careless with the glass recycling, as I've noticed broken bottles after they go through. In contrast, I've had one flat ever in my town, where I ride more miles, so I'm pretty sure it's the debris. I'm pretty bad at avoiding it. I usually miss with the front, then hit with the back, so mostly bad tire flats. How is changing a tire with disc brakes?

    ETA: it sounds like I'm riding through slums! It's actually a beach area, where people come to party. Also near the university, but I don't think it's particularly the students.
    Last edited by redrhodie; 11-01-2010 at 09:02 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redrhodie View Post
    Probably a 'cross bike. Would a touring bike accommodate studded tires? That might be a good option.
    It might, depending on clearance. It's probably one of those things that you'll have to measure.

    Discs will work on any frame and fork with the mounts for them, and a wheelset with disc-specific hubs. Changing a tire with disc brakes is easy- no brake to open with frozen fingers. My next commuter frame will be disc-compatible for sure.

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    I won't ride in snow and ice, so I have a roadbike with smooth tires, fenders, lots of lights and racks for panniers...
    Lucky for me, in Seattle snow and ice are not a guarantee in the winter, in fact, several winters might go by without it ever happening. Snow is such a rare event that I like to stay home and play in it.
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    Funny you should ask, since I'm on a winter biking photo spree at the moment

    here's mine, posing in front of the Town Hall. This is not a bike I've chosen for a winter bike, just one I've inherited that is the most appropriate to winter biking.
    - studded tires: Nokian Extreme in front, something a bit skinnier in back,
    - lights: Light and Motion Stella 180 in front (brighter than I need on the highest setting) and an insanely blinking Superflash in back, a Spokelit in the front wheel (thanks!) and I have one more at home for the rear, a spare white blinky in front and red in back
    - fenders: ones that followed the wheel would be better, but these will do - tacked on half of a plastic bottle on the front to catch spray that would otherwise go into the bottom bracket
    - a couple of reflective bands to make it easier to see from the side
    - note handbuilt wheel in rear - not because it's necessary for winter biking but because I'm proud of it

    I know the saddle looks weird, but after trying it level and just barely tilted forwards for weeks I gave it a hefty thump forward and it felt perfect.

    My dh just tinkered together a winter bike for himself from a used mtb, with a internal hub gear in the rear and single speed in front. Too early to tell how it goes, but the idea is a good one.
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    Wow, lph, that's a serious winter machine! No wonder you can ride every day year round. I'm glad those spokelites worked for you. You set a great example of what to do for visibility and safety. I can't see how that front fender is a plastic bottle, even at 200% zoom. Very nice wheel!

    I'm getting very excited, so of course we'll probably get no snow this year!
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    Thanks.

    The front fender is a standard cheapo black plastic fender ziptied on (except I think it's an old rear fender, no matter), but the end behind the front wheel was a bit short to protect the bottom bracket. So I cut a large plastic soda bottle roughly in half lengthwise and cut off the bottom and the top, so I had a curved piece of plastic maybe 15 cm long. Punched a couple of holes near the corners in one end, a couple of holes in the end of the fender, over lapped and ziptied together. I know, I should go out and take a picture instead but it's dark and I'm lazy
    Winter riding is much less about badassery and much more about bundle-uppery. - malkin

    1995 Kona Cinder Cone commuterFrankenbike/Selle Italia SLR Lady Gel Flow
    2008 white Nakamura Summit Custom mtb/Terry Falcon X
    2000 Schwinn Fastback Comp road bike/Specialized Jett

  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by lph View Post
    I know, I should go out and take a picture instead but it's dark and I'm lazy
    No, you don't need to. I get it from the description.

    You're like MacGyver. You could probably save the world with duct tape and a match.
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