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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by nscrbug View Post
    Talk about feeling discouraged! The first few rides on the Cervelo felt like I was dragging a grand piano behind me! I was extremely frustrated that I had spent so much money on a full carbon aero bike, only to ride WAY slower than I ever had on my Trek.
    Yes, yes, YES! I wanted to cry today while out on my ride.

    I live in Salt Lake City, which is very hilly. I find that I am slower on the climbs, but even more frustrating is on the flats, when I am really pushing it hard and see that I am hardly moving.

    The geometry of the bike does feel different than my Trek. Not uncomfortable, or cramped or anything, just different. I know I need to raise my saddle up a bit. What difference would crank arm size have? I am headed out to the garage with my measuring tape right now to see if there is a big difference between the two.

    ETA: The crank arms are the same length.
    Last edited by rubywagon; 02-07-2010 at 01:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenbeanvw View Post
    Yes, yes, YES! I wanted to cry today while out on my ride.

    I live in Salt Lake City, which is very hilly. I find that I am slower on the climbs, but even more frustrating is on the flats, when I am really pushing it hard and see that I am hardly moving.

    The geometry of the bike does feel different than my Trek. Not uncomfortable, or cramped or anything, just different. I know I need to raise my saddle up a bit. What difference would crank arm size have? I am headed out to the garage with my measuring tape right now to see if there is a big difference between the two.
    Good question...but I honestly don't know. The cranks on both of my bikes were the same size - 170. The geometries on my bikes are quite different. Going from the Trek, which had a taller headtube (thus putting me more upright)...to the Cervelo, which essentially has ZERO headtube...placing me in a much more aggressive, racing position. This has impacted my overall "comfort" on the bike...so perhaps that is why I'm riding slower on the Cervelo. I have recently "flipped" my stem to put me in a more upright position, so hopefully this will help somewhat with my comfort issues.

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    Please don't get mad at me for saying this, but if you haven't done so, take a minute and make absolutely sure your brakes aren't dragging. There is nothing that can sap your energy (and speed) like dragging brakes. They're worse than a headwind.

    Having your saddle height/setback dramatically wrong could also affect your power, but you'd probably notice if your saddle was way off since you are used to how your old bike felt and the new one would feel immediately wrong.

    When I went from a 52/42/32 triple with 11/23 cassette to a standard double with a 12/25 cassette, I did have an uncomfortable gearing spot that was somewhere around 42/11-13. 39/12 was a little easy (and rubbed on my bike) but 53/middle gears were a bit hard. Basically I had to get a little bit stronger so I could cruise in the big chainring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liza View Post
    take a minute and make absolutely sure your brakes aren't dragging.
    That was my first thought, too.

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    Beyond the possibility that your brakes are rubbing, my guess is that you just need to tweak your fit and position. It's possible that your seat is too low and/ or too far fore or aft. You'd be surprised what a few minor modifications can do. Hopefully, your bike fitting will help iron it out.
    Live with intention. Walk to the edge. Listen hard. Practice wellness. Play with abandon. Laugh. Choose with no regret. Continue to learn. Appreciate your friends. Do what you love. Live as if this is all there is.

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    I just checked the brakes and they seem to be okay (albeit very dirty from this morning's ride).

    I am willing to bet my saddle height had a lot to do with it. I wonder if I didn't have the bolt around the seat post tightened enough because it seems to have gone down a bit from when I initially put it at the correct height.

    Liza - I do think I have the uncomfortable gearing spot you are talking about. It seems when I am in my small ring, my legs are spinning too fast, but when I jump up to the big ring, I am not strong enough to really lay into it. I will keep in plugging away and hopefully my legs will restore some confidence in my riding.

    Thank you all for the ideas!

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    I am sorry about what you're experiencing. I'm starting to think about my next bike and that's a thing I fear.

    I do think though that raising the saddle will have a BIG impact on your speed. Give it a chance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenbeanvw View Post
    I just checked the brakes and they seem to be okay (albeit very dirty from this morning's ride).
    Even if your brakes aren't rubbing when you inspect them, I've found normal flexing in the wheels and frame (or fork) can still make them drag, especially when I'm pedalling my hardest!

    Many new bikes are delivered with the brake pads set close to the rim, often just 1 or 2 mm between the rim and each brake pad; if that's the case with your new bike, consider loosening the brake cables a little to open up the gap. I like about a 3 to 4mm gap on each side of the rim.

    (This also makes braking easier for me, since it brings the brake lever closer into my hand when I squeeze.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenbeanvw View Post
    I just checked the brakes and they seem to be okay (albeit very dirty from this morning's ride).

    I am willing to bet my saddle height had a lot to do with it. I wonder if I didn't have the bolt around the seat post tightened enough because it seems to have gone down a bit from when I initially put it at the correct height.

    Liza - I do think I have the uncomfortable gearing spot you are talking about. It seems when I am in my small ring, my legs are spinning too fast, but when I jump up to the big ring, I am not strong enough to really lay into it. I will keep in plugging away and hopefully my legs will restore some confidence in my riding.

    Thank you all for the ideas!
    I bought a new bike last March and had to play around with my fit for a while to get it dialed in. I did a hilly ride in June after playing around with my saddle height. It was one of the worst rides I'd ever done. I could pedal by the end of the ride and I felt horrible about my performance. I didn't notice until I got home that the seatpost had slipped WAY down, which largely explained why I didn't have any power by the end of the ride.
    Live with intention. Walk to the edge. Listen hard. Practice wellness. Play with abandon. Laugh. Choose with no regret. Continue to learn. Appreciate your friends. Do what you love. Live as if this is all there is.

    --Mary Anne Radmacher

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    Smile

    if it is the elite compact, you should check the rubber dust seals on the hubs. if it is new out of the box, a lot of times the guys that put them together don't check those, and sometimes they need a little oil between the dust seals and the hub, otherwise, they can drag. good luck!

 

 

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