ZEN - I LOVE big sunglasses. And yes, the seat is low but not as low as it looks. Part of the reason I want this bike is so I can put my cheap violin on the rack and ride to rehearsal for summer concerts in the garden. Thus I want to be able to put a toe or two down without a lot of trouble. In the picture I'm on a curb AND wearing 4 inch heels. So there's the explanation.

I think I'm going to go w/ a Brooks B67 aged. Its sprung (so I can sit upright) and is aged so its going to be comfortable from day 1. I am just not into spending a year making the saddle work for me. I plan on having the beautiful Miss Cherry for many many years and want my butt to love her from the start.

jp

And Uforgot, your Surly is LOVELY I totally understand why the B17 is right for you given the bike setup