Terminology question -- I call it underwear

[Crankin]

I bought the Adiamos. I had to throw them out. They were huge! The chamois was huge, too and that was the the size small. No extra smalls.
My best liners are the Sugoi ones I bought on TE. However, I wore them all day at class last week and the grippers really chafed my legs. But they fit perfectly. I think they just need to be washed a little more.

[Triskeliongirl]

Have you tried a cycling short? Sierra Trading Post has a great price now on the Shebeest SSS short which is a very high quality short at a good price. I think real bike shorts work better than liner shorts. If its cold you can also layer them up with leg warmers, or unpadded tights.

[OakLeaf]

Also, no matter how much padding you have between yourself and the seams of blue jeans, they're going to cut into you. If you still prefer a liner, best to wear pants with a gusseted crotch.

[SadieKate]

My best liners are the Sugoi ones I bought on TE. However, I wore them all day at class last week and the grippers really chafed my legs. But they fit perfectly. I think they just need to be washed a little more.

What's nice about the Sugoi liners is that they use a real chamois not junk. I think one of the Sugoi liners has their top line chamois. Andiamo may have improved but the ones I had many eons ago were junk.

Even so, I can't imagine wearing a liner short all day long if I'm not actually cycling. Not only are the grippers uncomfortable all day, but that part of your body needs ventilation. It just isn't healthy.

[PamNY]

What's nice about the Sugoi liners is that they use a real chamois not junk. I think one of the Sugoi liners has their top line chamois.

Does that mean it's actually leather?

[SadieKate]

In the old days, yes. Today's chamois are an incredible creation of synthetic fabric and padding that wicks, shouldn't chafe, is ergonomically better designed, etc., etc., etc.

[Crankin]

I agree, SK, the chamois in the Sugoi liners is as good as any of my regular shorts.
I think next time I ride to the train, I will go without padding.