Amici Veloci - The 2007 Order Thread

[Teddy]

SadieKate,

I would love to buy a jersey! Can I PM you to ask a few fit and ordering questions? Being extremely new to cycling, I'm debating the pros and cons of long sleeve vs. short sleeve w/arm warmers, and also club vs. race cut. Might also need a sleeveless... Can you please help?

Thanks!
Teddy

P.S. LOVE the design and colors on your jerseys! They're very cool.
P.P.S And someday when I learn to actually ride my beautiful new road bike, I hope to be able to do some charity rides too. Sigh...

[Veronica]

Oh, just post your questions here. Chances are, someone else has the same question.

For the record, I also wear a medium. I'm 5'5", 155 pounds and I have boobs. God, I can't believe I said that.

V.

[Veronica]

I find long sleeve jerseys kind of confining. I only have one and it's a Voler. It fits well through the chest and shoulders, but feels tight over my forearms.

I also don't think it's as warm as I would like. So I prefer a short sleeve jersey with arm warmers. It also gives you more options.

Club vs race - if you're curvy, go club. If your hips are more than 10 -12 inches bigger than your waist, go club.

V.

[Teddy]

Veronica - thanks for your reply. I just read SK's post a little farther down regarding ordering and didn't realize she was trying to go out of town and had asked those on the forum to help with ordering questions.

So, here goes:
1. Race cut versus Club cut? Race cut is smaller/tighter??? I am 5'3, 120lbs., fairly muscular with very little boobage. I'm thinking Size Small, Race cut...?
2. What do the arm warmers fit like? I have fairly large arms and am thinking the elastic at the top (there is elastic there, isn't there?) would be uncomfortable? Kinda like the elastic leg grippers on some cycling shorts - far too tight on my rather large legs.
3. Which leads me to the conclusion that maybe one sleeveless and one long sleeve would be good...or is it more versatile to have the short sleeve with arm warmers? I live in Jackson, WY and it's only summer here about two months of the year. The rest of the year is winter or mud season. The catch-22 is that most of my riding outdoors would be done during the short summer months. A little could be done in spring or fall, but winter is definitely out since its a vast sea of ice and snow here for at least 4 - 5 months.

It wouldn't be so hard to decide if I actually knew what the heck I was doing, but being that I have zero experience cycling, I thought it best to ask questions and get advice before ordering.

Thanks so much.
Teddy

[SadieKate]

V's right. Someone else will have the same questions. Guaranteed.

Please don't PM or email me. I'm packing for a 2 week trip and I won't be able to answer until late this month. I shouldn't even be typing this post.

Another note - the long sleeve jerseys are available in both the light weight fabric just like the short sleeve jerseys and also in the heavier fabric. Sometimes longsleeve jerseys are not as warm as a SS with an undershirt and armwarmers because they don't fit as snug over the arms but when I'm doing lots of layering with no intent to take anything off (can we say it was a cold winter here?), I prefer them.

OK, where is my sleeping bag?

[salsabike]

Are there any pics around of the vest and the jackets?

[Teddy]

Ah! Thanks for all the info. I think then maybe short sleeve with arm warmers and maybe a sleeveless just because... I am definitely not curvy and my chest and hips are just about 10" bigger than my waist so maybe Race cut would be okay? I also read that the Club cut has no elastic at the bottom and is slightly shorter. So the Race cut is slightly longer WITH elastic at the bottom? Hmmm...I dislike that elastic at the bottom.

The heavier weight jacket also sounds nice...

I'll work on this and get an order together this week.

Thanks again for your help!

Teddy

[Xrayted]

Hey, Kit and I are just checking on what cut/style we prefer and what sizes we take. I like the idea of SS with arm warmers. And no, I don't like the elastic at the waist either. I like my jerseys a little roomy so I can move. I'm not gonna ever be fast so I don't need it sticking to me like a second skin.

[snapdragen]

OK - this is a massive cut 'n paste from past AV order threads. Hope it helps.

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Jersey Styles.

The men's club cut is more straight up and down, the women's has a bit of curve, and no elastic in the hem (men's has elastic) Race cut fits tighter than club.





Sleeveless Race Cut:



Thermal Jacket


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Sizing

Jobob's "5'7", 145 pounds, 34A on top, size 10. The medium women's club cut short-sleeve jersey fits me about perfectly. There is a bit of room left over for more boobage (as with all of my clothing ) but it fits fine on my hips...As for arm warmers, I don't have large arms and I went for the unisex small, but I find them uncomfortable. You might want to try mediums."
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fishdr "my pants size is an 8. I'm going with the M club short sleeve."
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yellow "5'2"? "36A. I have the women's club cut in a small and wish that I had a med. It fits, but more snugly than I like. I have muscular arms/back/shoulders, so that may be part of why it fits the way it does. I am generally pretty true to a small in just about everything."
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slinkdog "I have the same jersey with a different design. I ordered a medium (no elastic, shaped cut) and I wish I had ordered a large. It fits, but the front is shorter than I would like (probably because of boobage) and it is very tight in the bust. If I didn't wear a smasher-type sports bra, I couldn't wear it. I am a 36 D, and I usually wear an 8 in pants and a 10 in blouses. Medium on t shirts from places like Eddie Bauer and Old Navy. "..."I think the Voler one I have is the women's club cut. It has no elastic in the hem and is shaped at the waist. It is pretty fitted on me all the way through the jersey, but especially tight in the bust."
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Trek "Voler stuff I have and love:
vests: have a mens large (AIDS ride), a womens XL (velo girls)
jerseys: mens large, womens XL (race cut?) womens L (club cut?)
arm skins: both the velogirls and TA are medium. the TA's fit well, the VG's a little tight, don't know why since they are the same size etc, guess my arms bulk up in pink?-heh.
Me: short chubby gal, 5'1", 150'ish"
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cindysue " generally wear a medium: 36C, 150#, wide hips, skinny arms, normal waist AV men's sleeveless race cut in medium is snug everywhere. I ordered the mens jersey thinking it would be longer in the torso than the womens but the tight waist band is a real downer. cinderella women's club cut in medium was too small. I traded it for a large and have a lot more room in the bust area. summary - women's large club cut works best for me" also "In Voler's OTHER fabric, I'm comfy in a small race cut. But as SK noted, this fabric fits a little tighter, hence the "smaller" feel."

*editors note-she's tall too
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Adventuregirl "I'd also like to mention that the arm warmers run a little small. They are called "unisex" sizing. I would normally consider myself a unisex small. But I have medium arm warmers, and they are just about right. Unisex small arm warmers would have been too small for me." * editors note AG is shorter than me, but very strong of course
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tprevost " got the sleeveless race jersey. My shoulders are so broad that sleeveless stuff usually works best!"
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SK: "5' 3 1/2", 135 lbs, short waisted, 34D, plenty of hip.
Women's medium club cut fits very closely, like a road jersey for racing. A large would flap on me. Unisex size S windvest - I removed the elastic and hemmed up. Fits snugly on the hips but doesn't flap in the breeze (I believe jo likes flap-happy vest while I hate the sound of it). Women's sleeveless Race Cut jersey in size med also. Fits much like the club cut after I removed the elastic and hemmed also as, otherwise, hem would rise to the point of least resistance - somewhere above my belly button. Size medium armwarmers - The smalls are a wee bit snug so I went with the meds. They feel a tad loose but don't slide down. I'm probably in the middle of these two sizes."
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Miscellaneous Measurements
So here are the measurements I took of the Voler sample jerseys in women's club cut.

For chest width (CW) I layed the jersey flat and measured across the front of the jersey directly below the armpits.

For front length (FL) I measured the center seam, from the bottom of the collar to the bottom of the jersey.

Likewise, for the rear length (RL), I measured from the bottom of the collar to the bottom of the jersey.

All measurements are in inches.

Hopefully these will help, along with Voler's size charts.

size-CW-FL-RL

XS 15 17.5 22.5
S 16 18.5 23.5
M 17.5 19 24
L 18 20 25.5
XL 19 21 26
2XL 21 22 26.5
3XL 21.5 22.5 28

[Velobambina]

For the record, I also wear a medium. I'm 5'5", 155 pounds and I have boobs. God, I can't believe I said that.

V.

Quit bragging, you wench!!! LOL

[Veronica]

Hey, you're welcome to a few of those pounds.

V.

[Zen]

I'm so confused.
I can make decisions for others but I can't make them for myself.
That is a good looking jersey.

[jobob]

OK, I'll make it for you - you NEED an AV jersey.

[DrBadger]

for those of you with the vest... does it have elastic along the bottom like the jacket does?

Thanks!