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  1. #1
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    Amici Veloci - The 2007 Order Thread

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    I’ve finally got the new order process ready and Snap has graciously agreed to collect the orders with payment via PayPal. If we can get the orders collected by July 18, the orders will be shipped the week of Sept 10. They’ll go off to the equally gracious Velobambina (to avoid CA taxes) who will ship the individual jerseys.

    For those of you unfamiliar with the Amici Veloci story, here is the short version. Back in August 2004 I was diagnosed with MS and was open about it on this forum. I decided I wanted to ride in the Top Hat Classic 2005 (a local MS ride) and I suddenly received an incredible email from jobob, snapdragen, aka_kim, veronica and Adventure_Girl (now collectively known as the Bored Members). They wanted to be on a team with me, and I'd never met them! Wow, was I an emotional mess. Our team grew to 15 strong and we were the largest non-corporate fundraising team (thanks to many of you). Out of that we decided that we needed a jersey but that also we would try to ride one charity ride a year. We want anyone and everyone who wants a jersey to have to opportunity to buy one and encourage all to wear it in a charity event.

    FYI, NEW THIS YEAR – WOMEN’S SLEEVELESS CLUB!

    The details:
    DEADLINE: JULY 18
    Photos: http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...loci%20jersey/
    Items available: See order form.
    Payment PayPal only. Send to snapdragen at address on order form.

    **We need 25 short sleeve/sleeveless items for the minimum order.
    **A separate 25 item min applies to the combined arm warmer/long sleeve jerseys.

    Domestic Shipping and PayPal fees: 1st class USA postage included in cost.
    International Shipping:Please look up at www.usps.com and add to your payment

    Fit: if you have a local shop that carries Voler team kit, ask to try it on. Feel free to ask anyone who already has an AV or Cinderella jersey for fit advice and we’ll try to help. The photo is of me in a size med women's club cut short sleeve jersey and armwarmers (I'm 5' 3 1/2", 135 lbs and have generous boobage).

    If you know anyone that isn’t on this forum that might like a jersey, please direct them to any of the forums or www.amiciveloci.org. I’ll post this same info there.
    May we all be Amici Veloci, fast friends.

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    Just a week thought for those of you who are travelling. Print out copies of the order form and take it with you. You never know when you can get a complete stranger in a parking lot to join in the fun.
    Frends know gud humors when dey is hear it. ~ Da Crockydiles of ZZE.

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    I'm In!!!

    SadieKate,

    I would love to buy a jersey! Can I PM you to ask a few fit and ordering questions? Being extremely new to cycling, I'm debating the pros and cons of long sleeve vs. short sleeve w/arm warmers, and also club vs. race cut. Might also need a sleeveless... Can you please help?

    Thanks!
    Teddy

    P.S. LOVE the design and colors on your jerseys! They're very cool.
    P.P.S And someday when I learn to actually ride my beautiful new road bike, I hope to be able to do some charity rides too. Sigh...

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    Not SK, but...

    Oh, just post your questions here. Chances are, someone else has the same question.

    For the record, I also wear a medium. I'm 5'5", 155 pounds and I have boobs. God, I can't believe I said that.

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    I find long sleeve jerseys kind of confining. I only have one and it's a Voler. It fits well through the chest and shoulders, but feels tight over my forearms.

    I also don't think it's as warm as I would like. So I prefer a short sleeve jersey with arm warmers. It also gives you more options.

    Club vs race - if you're curvy, go club. If your hips are more than 10 -12 inches bigger than your waist, go club.

    V.
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    Thanks Veronica

    Veronica - thanks for your reply. I just read SK's post a little farther down regarding ordering and didn't realize she was trying to go out of town and had asked those on the forum to help with ordering questions.

    So, here goes:
    1. Race cut versus Club cut? Race cut is smaller/tighter??? I am 5'3, 120lbs., fairly muscular with very little boobage. I'm thinking Size Small, Race cut...?
    2. What do the arm warmers fit like? I have fairly large arms and am thinking the elastic at the top (there is elastic there, isn't there?) would be uncomfortable? Kinda like the elastic leg grippers on some cycling shorts - far too tight on my rather large legs.
    3. Which leads me to the conclusion that maybe one sleeveless and one long sleeve would be good...or is it more versatile to have the short sleeve with arm warmers? I live in Jackson, WY and it's only summer here about two months of the year. The rest of the year is winter or mud season. The catch-22 is that most of my riding outdoors would be done during the short summer months. A little could be done in spring or fall, but winter is definitely out since its a vast sea of ice and snow here for at least 4 - 5 months.

    It wouldn't be so hard to decide if I actually knew what the heck I was doing, but being that I have zero experience cycling, I thought it best to ask questions and get advice before ordering.

    Thanks so much.
    Teddy

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    V's right. Someone else will have the same questions. Guaranteed.

    Please don't PM or email me. I'm packing for a 2 week trip and I won't be able to answer until late this month. I shouldn't even be typing this post.

    Another note - the long sleeve jerseys are available in both the light weight fabric just like the short sleeve jerseys and also in the heavier fabric. Sometimes longsleeve jerseys are not as warm as a SS with an undershirt and armwarmers because they don't fit as snug over the arms but when I'm doing lots of layering with no intent to take anything off (can we say it was a cold winter here?), I prefer them.

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    Are there any pics around of the vest and the jackets?
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    Thanks!

    Ah! Thanks for all the info. I think then maybe short sleeve with arm warmers and maybe a sleeveless just because... I am definitely not curvy and my chest and hips are just about 10" bigger than my waist so maybe Race cut would be okay? I also read that the Club cut has no elastic at the bottom and is slightly shorter. So the Race cut is slightly longer WITH elastic at the bottom? Hmmm...I dislike that elastic at the bottom.

    The heavier weight jacket also sounds nice...

    I'll work on this and get an order together this week.

    Thanks again for your help!

    Teddy

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    Hey, Kit and I are just checking on what cut/style we prefer and what sizes we take. I like the idea of SS with arm warmers. And no, I don't like the elastic at the waist either. I like my jerseys a little roomy so I can move. I'm not gonna ever be fast so I don't need it sticking to me like a second skin.
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    OK - this is a massive cut 'n paste from past AV order threads. Hope it helps.

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    · Look at the order form and determine which items you want
    · Sign up for PayPal
    · On PayPal, click on "send money" and enter snap's email address and all the details for the items you want
    · Enter the total money due
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    Jersey Styles.

    The men's club cut is more straight up and down, the women's has a bit of curve, and no elastic in the hem (men's has elastic) Race cut fits tighter than club.





    Sleeveless Race Cut:



    Thermal Jacket


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    Sizing

    Jobob's "5'7", 145 pounds, 34A on top, size 10. The medium women's club cut short-sleeve jersey fits me about perfectly. There is a bit of room left over for more boobage (as with all of my clothing ) but it fits fine on my hips...As for arm warmers, I don't have large arms and I went for the unisex small, but I find them uncomfortable. You might want to try mediums."
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    fishdr "my pants size is an 8. I'm going with the M club short sleeve."
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    yellow "5'2"? "36A. I have the women's club cut in a small and wish that I had a med. It fits, but more snugly than I like. I have muscular arms/back/shoulders, so that may be part of why it fits the way it does. I am generally pretty true to a small in just about everything."
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    slinkdog "I have the same jersey with a different design. I ordered a medium (no elastic, shaped cut) and I wish I had ordered a large. It fits, but the front is shorter than I would like (probably because of boobage) and it is very tight in the bust. If I didn't wear a smasher-type sports bra, I couldn't wear it. I am a 36 D, and I usually wear an 8 in pants and a 10 in blouses. Medium on t shirts from places like Eddie Bauer and Old Navy. "..."I think the Voler one I have is the women's club cut. It has no elastic in the hem and is shaped at the waist. It is pretty fitted on me all the way through the jersey, but especially tight in the bust."
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    Trek "Voler stuff I have and love:
    vests: have a mens large (AIDS ride), a womens XL (velo girls)
    jerseys: mens large, womens XL (race cut?) womens L (club cut?)
    arm skins: both the velogirls and TA are medium. the TA's fit well, the VG's a little tight, don't know why since they are the same size etc, guess my arms bulk up in pink?-heh.
    Me: short chubby gal, 5'1", 150'ish"
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    cindysue " generally wear a medium: 36C, 150#, wide hips, skinny arms, normal waist AV men's sleeveless race cut in medium is snug everywhere. I ordered the mens jersey thinking it would be longer in the torso than the womens but the tight waist band is a real downer. cinderella women's club cut in medium was too small. I traded it for a large and have a lot more room in the bust area. summary - women's large club cut works best for me" also "In Voler's OTHER fabric, I'm comfy in a small race cut. But as SK noted, this fabric fits a little tighter, hence the "smaller" feel."

    *editors note-she's tall too
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    Adventuregirl "I'd also like to mention that the arm warmers run a little small. They are called "unisex" sizing. I would normally consider myself a unisex small. But I have medium arm warmers, and they are just about right. Unisex small arm warmers would have been too small for me." * editors note AG is shorter than me, but very strong of course
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    tprevost " got the sleeveless race jersey. My shoulders are so broad that sleeveless stuff usually works best!"
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    SK: "5' 3 1/2", 135 lbs, short waisted, 34D, plenty of hip.
    Women's medium club cut fits very closely, like a road jersey for racing. A large would flap on me. Unisex size S windvest - I removed the elastic and hemmed up. Fits snugly on the hips but doesn't flap in the breeze (I believe jo likes flap-happy vest while I hate the sound of it). Women's sleeveless Race Cut jersey in size med also. Fits much like the club cut after I removed the elastic and hemmed also as, otherwise, hem would rise to the point of least resistance - somewhere above my belly button. Size medium armwarmers - The smalls are a wee bit snug so I went with the meds. They feel a tad loose but don't slide down. I'm probably in the middle of these two sizes."
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    Miscellaneous Measurements
    So here are the measurements I took of the Voler sample jerseys in women's club cut.

    For chest width (CW) I layed the jersey flat and measured across the front of the jersey directly below the armpits.

    For front length (FL) I measured the center seam, from the bottom of the collar to the bottom of the jersey.

    Likewise, for the rear length (RL), I measured from the bottom of the collar to the bottom of the jersey.

    All measurements are in inches.

    Hopefully these will help, along with Voler's size charts.

    size-CW-FL-RL

    XS 15 17.5 22.5
    S 16 18.5 23.5
    M 17.5 19 24
    L 18 20 25.5
    XL 19 21 26
    2XL 21 22 26.5
    3XL 21.5 22.5 28

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    I have the long and short sleeve in medium and love them both. I find the long sleeve super comfy. Im 5'4" and 125 pounds. My chest is about 34B.

    I love the club cut in the short sleeve.

    Hope this info helps.

    Leslie
    Last edited by Trekhawk; 06-10-2007 at 12:57 PM.
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    Forgot the armwarmers:


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    vest & thermal jacket sizing

    I also have the vest and the thermal jacket. They are both available only in the 'unisex' sizes.

    Like snap mentioned above, I'm 5'7", now up to 150 lbs ... grrr... wear a size 10 and I'm flat-chested (oops, 36A, not 34A like I said in snap's post above. Whaddever.).

    I had originally ordered the vest in size Unisex Small, but I could barely get the darn thing to zip at my hips. And that was 10 pounds ago even, when I was flirting with size 8

    So, I sold the small vest to velobambina, and bought someone else's unisex medium vest. That fits me fine over the hips but it's a bit roomy on top, but that doesn't matter to me. It's a very nice vest, I wear it a lot.

    As for the thermal jacket, I bought that in size unisex medium. It's fine for wearing over close-fitting cycling clothes (I wore it a few times this past winter when we actually had cold days, and it was a champ). But it's very snug at the hips if I try to zip it up when I'm wearing jeans. My only other qualm with the thermal jacket is that the arms are a bit long for me.

    HTH, - Jo.

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    Wow, snap, you are sooo good.

    Back to packing.
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