from this point, it might get ugly

[mimitabby]

Was Chris at lunch or something?

Tim looks older than Chris (late 40's early 50's) from what I remember, but he does have a young voice.

It will take longer, but might be worth it.

ha, no matter what i do now it's going to take longer!

Chris was with another customer, and Tim was pleasant and respectful. Knowing his age gives him even more credibility, thanks Knot. (see that, I'm prejudiced against young men!)

Trisk, I am sure you are right, the bike needs to go back, we've re-wrapped it
so I'm not worried about hurting it by taking it to the bike shop it's in the box.

Will call the credit union on monday and see what my options are.

I know that the racing fenders aren't like real fenders, that's part of why I was still shopping for a bike. And I was going by my Physical THerapist's recommendations, that's how I arrived at that bike.

[Triskeliongirl]

I was going by my Physical THerapist's recommendations, that's how I arrived at that bike.

Did you PT have the full specs on the frame geometry before you ordered, that means the seat tube angle as well as top tube length. If he just told you that you need a bike with a certain size top tube, he may have been assuming a standard seat tube angle like 73 (this is what a fit kit does) but then you need to add a cm to the TT legnth for each degree increase in seat tube angle. Mondonicos have *VERY STEEP* seat tubes, so that I why I am worried this may still not even fit you. PLEASE try to understand this before you order you next frame. I think it is explained well here: http://www.cervelo.com/viewkb.aspx?id=00692

[KnottedYet]

Would you consider calling Chris (and talking to Chris or asking Tim to have Chris call you back when he's available) and explaining what you need in a bike, and asking if they can help you get a truly CUSTOM Mondonico with the clearance and braze-ons you want?

Tim was probably right, that you can't modify the existing frame for what you need. Mr. DumpsterDiver was probably pulling a fast one telling you he could do it for you.

Now that you are getting free of the "wrong" frame, maybe ask Chris if Mondonico can create a frame, the "right" frame, just for you?

Not modify and paint an existing pre-made frame, but make an entirely new one to meet YOUR measurements and YOUR requirements?

(Chris and Mondonico did it for Trek, I bet they could do it for you)

[Triskeliongirl]

Would you consider calling Chris (and talking to Chris or asking Tim to have Chris call you back when he's available) and explaining what you need in a bike, and asking if they can help you get a truly CUSTOM Mondonico with the clearance and braze-ons you want?

Tim was probably right, that you can't modify the existing frame for what you need. Mr. DumpsterDiver was probably pulling a fast one telling you he could do it for you.

Now that you are getting free of the "wrong" frame, maybe ask Chris if Mondonico can create a frame, the "right" frame, just for you?

Not modify and paint an existing pre-made frame, but make an entirely new one to meet YOUR measurements and YOUR requirements?

(Chris and Mondonico did it for Trek, I bet they could do it for you)

I couldn't agree more. Again, I am worried cuz Mimi refers to going to this shop to see if they can talk her into keeping it. Mimi, to decide that you need to ask yourself why you thought you were buying this frame, if you think it meets your needs. I don't but its not what I think, its what do YOU think. If this frame won't meet your needs, then you must return it. Once the stress is behind you, by all means visit with Chris, your PT, Davidson, etc. Listen to recommendations. The fact that trek is happy with Chris is important, the fact that your husband is happy with Davidson is important too. Because many so-called professionals are lousy at customer service and fitting petite women.

[KnottedYet]

The fact that trek is happy with Chris is important, the fact that your husband is happy with Davidson is important too. Because many so-called professionals are lousy at customer service and fitting petite women.

Chris has a loyal following in the SF Bay area among women for a reason. He is NOT like Mr. DumpsterDiver. He's a bike geek, a real nice HUGE nerd who loves bikes. He treats women like cyclists, not like easy-marks for poor service.

He got Trek onto the bike of her dreams, and she's TINY. He fussed and fiddled with that bike until it fit her so perfectly that she can do the AIDS rides multiple times!

If Mondonico cannot make a brand new frame to meet your needs, Chris will tell you so. He won't "bend the truth" just to make a sale like Mr. Dumpster.

[spokewench]

Chris has a loyal following in the SF Bay area among women for a reason. He is NOT like Mr. DumpsterDiver. He's a bike geek, a real nice HUGE nerd who loves bikes. He treats women like cyclists, not like easy-marks for poor service.

He got Trek onto the bike of her dreams, and she's TINY. He fussed and fiddled with that bike until it fit her so perfectly that she can do the AIDS rides multiple times!

If Mondonico cannot make a brand new frame to meet your needs, Chris will tell you so. He won't "bend the truth" just to make a sale like Mr. Dumpster.

Chris Robinson is the best bike shop owner that I have ever known. He used to live in my house when he was getting his shop started. He is honest, smart, knowledgeable and will be helpful at all times. He is and was a friend obviously when we lived in California. I would recommend his bike knowledge and honesty to anyone. He will be able to answer your questions and if he can't he will find out.

Now, yes, he might be a big huge bike nerd now as Knotted said, BUT I remember him when he was just finishing being a VERY GOOD RACER and deciding to open his shop, and he was nowhere near as big. That's what a bike shop will do to you. He is knowledgeable in all areas of cycling.

[KnottedYet]

Ooops! I didn't mean "huge" in the physical sense, I meant "huge" in the bike-nerd/loves-bikes sense.

(it was a compliment, as nerds and geeks are very cool in my worldview)

[mimitabby]

Ooops! I didn't mean "huge" in the physical sense, I meant "huge" in the bike-nerd/loves-bikes sense.

LOL ah... the visuals...