I took the plunge and got a pair of adidas bibs. they are very comfy! I ordered a large (I am a size 12).
not as breathable as my sugois, but am quite happy with the chamois--similar to the castelli donna Y chamois.(the one pair of castelli's I purchased were too big, never wore and can't afford them now)
went on a longer ride in them an I am content.



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