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  1. #1
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    This is somewhat normal behavior, right?

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    I took my new Specialized Vita back to the shop today for our initial fitting. I asked if I could also bring along my Dolce which I bought a couple of years ago at a different shop. Sure, no problem, he said. The Dolce is 48cm and I've often wondered if I should have gotten the 44cm. What I didn't tell the guy was that there is a shop about 90 miles away with the same year, make and model (and color - red) on closeout in the 44. It turns out the 48 is fine with some adjustments.

    Now, that same bike shop (90 miles away) also has a 48 from that year, on closeout, with better components, in glossy black. Yes, I want a glossy black bike. The red is sharp, but limiting. I like the black. Just so happens I have to go out that way next week and I'm tempted to "just go look" at it, using the better components as an excuse I've only had the Dolce for a couple of years. It's not too soon to upgrade, right?

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    Totally normal!

    At least, for this crowd.
    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

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  3. #3
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    As Murienn said, you are talking to the wrong people.
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    Oh, no no. I'm talking to exactly the right people I wanted reassurance, people telling me what I want to hear, not some sort of common sense rationalization. So thanks!

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    Curious what they did to adjust the fit. (Didn't you ask about that before?).

    I've gotten where I can fit myself on a bike, except road cleats. Ugh. Spacers and wedges require help. It takes time and experience, though. Finally figured out that if I measure from the center of the saddle clamp to the center clamp of the bars, then replicate that length on another bike, I can figure out the correct stem length, even if the reach is different. End up with same cockpit length that way. It's taken a lot of trial, but have also figured out what to look for in neck pain to determine whether bars are too high or too low, of if the reach needs to be extended a bit, or shortened.

    Makes a big difference in my bike fits. If they helped you correctly, you may be able to do the same with the way you are switching back and forth between bikes.
    Last edited by Muirenn; 05-22-2015 at 07:46 AM.
    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

    Battswebb

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    Contrarian here. I'm spending all my $$ on upgrading my condo, traveling to the F1 grand prix in Austin for my father's birthday and otherwise spending time with family. Not thinking about buying any new bikes.

    Talk to me about grab bars that are decorative enough to double as towel bars and exhaust fan/light fixtures that don't look hideous.

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  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by ny biker View Post
    Contrarian here. I'm spending all my $$ on upgrading my condo, traveling to the F1 grand prix in Austin for my father's birthday and otherwise spending time with family. Not thinking about buying any new bikes.

    Talk to me about grab bars that are decorative enough to double as towel bars and exhaust fan/light fixtures that don't look hideous.
    Ah see. I've done lots of home remodeling lately, and still have more to go. Would you like to see pictures of my new roof?

    As you've probably realized, it's hard to use a grab bar as a towel bar. It's too fat (towel slides off) and a grab bar is usually installed vertically or diagonally (again, towel slides off). Good luck with your projects and travel plans.

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    Really like to get involved in this conversation, but I need to go paint the hallway! No bike upgrades in near future, we're gonna install new interior doors!!!!

    So, in short YES, YOU NEED A NEW BLACK BIKE for all of U.S. buying new light switches and towel bars! And yes, red is way to limiting! Send pics of the new girl!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBrakeforPastry View Post
    Ah see. I've done lots of home remodeling lately, and still have more to go. Would you like to see pictures of my new roof?

    As you've probably realized, it's hard to use a grab bar as a towel bar. It's too fat (towel slides off) and a grab bar is usually installed vertically or diagonally (again, towel slides off). Good luck with your projects and travel plans.
    I planned to have two towel bars on the wall of the bath/shower alcove that is opposite the tub faucet and shower head. (It's a small bathroom, so there's no other place for towel racks large enough for bath towels.) But they make grab bars now that are not totally commercial/hospital looking, so I will install two of them instead. At first I was going to go with Delta:

    http://www.build.com/delta-41724/s940429

    But the Moen cost significantly less and have grippy things on the back. And I think this style would look better for the vertical one that I plan to install on the wall next that has the tub faucet/shower head.

    http://www.build.com/moen-lr8724d1g/s592289?uid=1205628

    I'm also going with this for the toilet paper holder.

    http://www.build.com/moen-lr2352d/s591174?uid=1959168

    Do I need grab bars? Not now, not usually. But I bet my parents would appreciate them when they visit. And if I'm sick, or worn out from a long bike ride, or maybe drunk , they'll come in handy. Since I'm gutting the room down to the studs and have no plans or money to move to a different home, it makes sense to either install these things now or at least put the blocking in behind the walls for future installation. (I'll be adding blocking for a horizontal or slanted bar along the back wall of the but alcove.)

    - Gray Trek Madone 4.7 road bike, mystery crack in top tube repaired by Calfee, Bontrager Affinity RXL saddle
    - Red Trek 6000 mountain bike, Bontrager Evoke WSD saddle

    Gone but not forgotten:
    - Silver Trek 2000 road bike
    - Two awesome and worn out Juliana saddles

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    Quote Originally Posted by smittykitty View Post
    So, in short YES, YOU NEED A NEW BLACK BIKE for all of U.S. buying new light switches and towel bars! And yes, red is way to limiting! Send pics of the new girl!
    Get the bike! Do it for us and the economy. We'll help you pick red accents.

    I need to pick a new dishwasher. Anyone have experience with Bosch vs Miele? Also drawing up plans for a bathroom remodle, thinking about a walk in shower with hand made tile.
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    Never too soon to upgrade or add to the stable... Maybe the older one can be your knock around town bike, while the newer one with nicer components is your ride bike. Never underestimate the different niches to be filled by nearly identical bikes I speak from experience here, since I have three road bikes, all serving purposes/moods, and am trying to decide what I want the 4th road bike to be...
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    From a functional standpoint, regardless of how they look, I wouldn't hang anything at all from a grab bar. If the bar were ever actually needed, you don't want the grip obstructed or made slippery by a towel (or radio, or whatever).



    To the OP ... it's normal for anyone, if they have more money than they need for absolute survival, to spend it on something that makes their life happier! For some of us that's a new bike - for some, a new bathroom - for some, a more powerful fence charger to KEEP THE FRICKIN RABBITS OUT OF OUR GARDENS (but that's another thread )
    Speed comes from what you put behind you. - Judi Ketteler

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    Ha, ha on the rabbits. Don't let my DH know you have a fence charger...
    Trek, we bought a Bosch dishwasher about 5 years ago, to replace the one we bought 10 years ago, in the house remodel. The top rack has rusted and is disintegrating and the display that shows how many minutes are left in the cycle are no longer readable. It would cost about $200-300 to replace the top rack. Also, our glassware always looks filmy, no matter what detergent we try. We are almost ready to buy a new one, even though we are planning on selling in 1-2 years.
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  14. #14
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    Okay, a few thoughts. I wanted to put a grab bar in the shower both for me, if needed, and for when/if my mother visits. It seemed the tub was getting very crowded with shelves and little hooks for various things, so I left it out. I did put up a second shower curtain rod just inside the other one and use it as one long towel bar or for hand laundry.

    I already have a knock-around-town bike. A few of them. So I don't really want two Dolces in the stable. I wouldn't want either to feel resentment towards the other, and I'd be happier if one had a home of its own.

    I read an interesting column suggesting that many critters eating our vegetables are just looking for water. They're thirsty, can't find water, so they eat vegetables. The writer suggested putting out water. They'll probably still want the vegetables, but maybe not as much.

    I can't help with the dishwasher. When I remodeled my kitchen, I had them rip it out and put an extra cabinet in the space. I live alone and it's easy enough for me to just wash my dishes. I was too lazy to load and unload. The plumbing is still there if the next owners want a dishwasher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ny biker View Post
    Contrarian here.
    is it contrarian to quote merckx 'don't upgrade, ride up grades'??....no wait....upgrading to ride up grades is why i got my seven.
    ‘The negative feelings we all have can be addictive…just as the positive…it’s up to
    us to decide which ones we want to choose and feed”… Pema Chodron

 

 

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