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  1. #1
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    Thinking of starting to ride cross in the fall...

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    Hey all! Long time no see!

    I'm still road riding and currently training to ride a century! Unfortunately, the Missouri weather has not been very helpful with my training goals but I don't plan to ride until sometime in August or September. I'm studying for PhD comprehensive exams in September and the training is allowing me to keep some of my sanity.

    However, I've been lucky enough this year to find a group of female cyclists to do regular rides with. Many of them do some serious cross riding. They are extremely cool and encouraging and seem to think I should give it a shot - especially since I've wanted to try for several years now. But I am not even sure where to start! I feel like I will look like an idiot. These ladies have been so nice but I feel out of the loop. On road bikes, I am not a fish out of water but with a cross-bike... oye vay.

    One of my profs is moving and needs to get rid of her MTB. So, as of now, it looks like I will be inheriting a very nice MTB. Her husband used to race MTB's professionally and says it will be workable for me. She is the same height as me and built very similarly so this bike will work for me for now, at least. The ladies I ride with say the MTB is a good place to start on our local cyclocross circuit. The bike currently is without pedals and tires. It needs some maintenance work, too, but I am always up to that challenge. I am going to keep the 26'' tires that are on it for now. I might make mods and put 700s on in the future if that's possible. The bike shop here told me that I have few options for good cross tires. Any suggestions? The ones they have seem to be feasible and in my price range (about $30.00-$40.00).

    As for drops I don't have plans to put them on (for now). I know it's complicated and expensive and I figure if I like it enough, I will go out and buy a cross bike eventually. Probably when I graduate and have the money.

    But pedals? Oh lordy! I've read through several threads and I still don't know what I'm doing. So. Many. Choices. I have Shimano 105's on my road bike currently but they are BAD NEWS for mud and muck. I have seen some people prefer eggbeaters but I don't think these are the best choice for me either. I have seen you guys rec BMX-type pedals. What would be good for starting out? I used to be the queen of falling over in my Shimanos (I still kinda hate them and may switch them out if I find something I like better) but I practically live on that bike now and clips don't worry me.
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  2. #2
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    No advise on cross for you, but I do admire your desire to give it a try. Just wanted to give a 'Hey' from a MIZZOU grad (BA/MA) four decades ago (omg has it been that long??!!). Good luck.

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    I have a cross on layaway, and I think I've decided on Vault DMR pedals. They've the pins, and I can use with Five-Ten shoes. Plus, the colors are outrageous! The downside is they aren't often available in the states, so I'll have to order from the UK. It's a UK company, so not too surprising.

    Straitline Amp pedals are similar. Not as many colors, plus, the DMR's have a very large surface compared to many. Not sure how that would work for someone with smaller feet. But that is not a problem I have.

    I want the magenta. That color with the blue pins will look great on by stark black and white CAADX (2012 MODEL). Looks like a cross between hot pink and purple.
    Last edited by Muirenn; 05-25-2013 at 10:11 AM.
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    I have SPDs (M545s) on my CX bike, but it mostly gets used as a backup road bike for right now. For actual off-road riding, I think I'd put on a pair of BMX pedals.
    At least I don't leave slime trails.
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    Thanks for the feedback!

    pinsonp2, thanks! Cool to see more Mizzou people. Yeah. I'm here still for a couple more years. Well, fingers crossed I get a Fulbright and can bail for a bit but yep. Cycling is just about the only thing that keeps me sane out here And I've always wanted to try. We'll see how it goes.

    Muirenn, so with the 5/10's the goal is for the stiff sole of the shoe to tack onto those little pins so you have stability to pedal. So you don't have anything to clip in and out of? I'm a roadie so I am just used to the standard in and out of road shoes. Oh, and SPD's I have seen a lot of which are still clipping in and out but with different cleats.

    I am looking into something similar to those SPD's right now, Owlie. They work fine on your cross bike, then? I don't plan on doing anything too intense as far as MTB'ing goes. I am not sure I am cut out for it after hearing stories from my prof. It seems a bit daunting.
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    Here's the thread.


    The reason to avoid clipping in is ease of mounting, dismounting, etc. The Five-Tens are supposed to 'stick' to the pins, and many people are quite happy with them, claim they feel clipped-in. I'm a roadie, too, but it sounds like a good idea, so...

    Besides, that way I can hop on the bike anytime and have much more fun with it.
    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

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    If your "serious cross riding" is going to include any racing, you need clipless pedals. I have been racing in MISERABLE conditions for years on my Shimano SPDs, and don't have [many] issues with mud clogging the pedals.

    If, however, you are going to be doing this just for fun, the BMX style pedals may work ok for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheFly View Post
    If your "serious cross riding" is going to include any racing, you need clipless pedals. I have been racing in MISERABLE conditions for years on my Shimano SPDs, and don't have [many] issues with mud clogging the pedals.

    If, however, you are going to be doing this just for fun, the BMX style pedals may work ok for you.

    SheFly


    Or as a beginner? I do have a spare set of SPD's, but figured I'd wait until I gained some proficiency until I converted.

    Shefly, is it a good idea to use a more shock-absorbent saddle on a cross bike than on a roadie? I use a Specialized Toupe on my road bike. I have a Fizik Vesta on my mountain bike. (Haven't ridden the MB much, haven’t had the chance, yet. Seems like a good saddle). My cross is more upright than my roadie, so maybe the channel versus the cutout would work. Any idea? (Cross bike is actually still on layaway, got a killer deal on a new 2012 CAADX. $950.00 for the Tiagra model, and they are upgrading derailleur’s and brifters to 105 for 100.00). My thought was originally a 'do everything' steel bike, but the way this bike handles, power transfer, etc, is making me realize I'm turning into an aggressive rider; the way the bike feels is everything. I spend a lot of time out of the saddle on my roadie going over obstacles most people go around...).
    Last edited by Muirenn; 05-28-2013 at 04:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirenn View Post


    Or as a beginner? I do have a spare set of SPD's, but figured I'd wait until I gained some proficiency until I converted.

    Shefly, is it a good idea to use a more shock-absorbent saddle on a cross bike than on a roadie? I use a Specialized Toupe on my road bike. I have a Fizik Vesta on my mountain bike. (Haven't ridden the MB much, haven’t had the chance, yet. Seems like a good saddle). My cross is more upright than my roadie, so maybe the channel versus the cutout would work. Any idea? (Cross bike is actually still on layaway, got a killer deal on a new 2012 CAADX. $950.00 for the Tiagra model, and they are upgrading derailleur’s and brifters to 105 for 100.00). My thought was originally a 'do everything' steel bike, but the way this bike handles, power transfer, etc, is making me realize I'm turning into an aggressive rider; the way the bike feels is everything. I spend a lot of time out of the saddle on my roadie going over obstacles most people go around...).


    I have my SPDs set on the lowest setting on my cross bike, and can get in and out of them at will. Other people ride my bike and don't like them that light, but I love them. I have never had an issue trying to release from my pedals before the barriers, or going uphill... If you have clipless pedals on other bikes, this will be an easy transition for you!

    As for saddles, I tend to run the SAME saddle on as many of my bikes as possible, for, um, [maybe not so] obvious reasons . I run the Fizik Antares on most of my bikes, though I do have a Specialized saddle on my road bike. Again, it depends what you are going to be doing on the bike - long touring vs. racing. If you are racing, I would say that you wouldn't need anything more or less plush than what you are used to.

    You will LOVE the CAADX! I run the SuperX for racing and the CAADx converted to a SSCX. Both are AWESOME! I'm only considering upgrading the SSCX this year to move to discs (once you have them, you can't run cantis or Vs ever again).

    Sounds like you have some fun in store! Enjoy.

    SheFly
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    Quote Originally Posted by SheFly View Post


    I have my SPDs set on the lowest setting on my cross bike, and can get in and out of them at will. Other people ride my bike and don't like them that light, but I love them. I have never had an issue trying to release from my pedals before the barriers, or going uphill... If you have clipless pedals on other bikes, this will be an easy transition for you!

    As for saddles, I tend to run the SAME saddle on as many of my bikes as possible, for, um, [maybe not so] obvious reasons . I run the Fizik Antares on most of my bikes, though I do have a Specialized saddle on my road bike. Again, it depends what you are going to be doing on the bike - long touring vs. racing. If you are racing, I would say that you wouldn't need anything more or less plush than what you are used to.

    You will LOVE the CAADX! I run the SuperX for racing and the CAADx converted to a SSCX. Both are AWESOME! I'm only considering upgrading the SSCX this year to move to discs (once you have them, you can't run cantis or Vs ever again).

    Sounds like you have some fun in store! Enjoy.

    SheFly

    Had to look up SuperX. Wow!!! Now THAT'S a bike!!! Will you stay with the SuperX if you upgrade?

    The SSCX sounds cool. Why a SS, though? What is the benefit?
    So long as the wheels are still turning, life is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirenn View Post
    Had to look up SuperX. Wow!!! Now THAT'S a bike!!! Will you stay with the SuperX if you upgrade?

    The SSCX sounds cool. Why a SS, though? What is the benefit?
    Yeah - the SuperX is a pretty sweet race rig. No upgrading of that for me this year.

    We have a SSCX category here in the East for racing. It's different racing on one gear vs. geared bikes - different techniques to managing the course. I've done the whole series for a couple of years now and had a blast. I was also our regional SSCX champion last year. No thinking about gear shifting, but a lot more thinking about momentum and technique. I train on it as well. Definitely fun, and a whole sub-culture of CX racing! The big benefit is less parts to get mucked up in really muddy races, and no worrying about breaking a derailleur in those same conditions!

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    “Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live.” - Mark Twain <- This sums up my cyclocross experience.

    I have SPDs on all my cross bikes, and the ONLY issue I've had with them is after running through sand. So the solution is obvious: try to figure out how to ride through the *&%# sandpit. Or get eggbeaters, like the rest of my team does.

    And I've all but given up on my geared bike and am resigning myself to my *two* SS crossbikes. Whut? One's the pit bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnat23 View Post
    “Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live.” - Mark Twain <- This sums up my cyclocross experience.

    I have SPDs on all my cross bikes, and the ONLY issue I've had with them is after running through sand. So the solution is obvious: try to figure out how to ride through the *&%# sandpit. Or get eggbeaters, like the rest of my team does.

    And I've all but given up on my geared bike and am resigning myself to my *two* SS crossbikes. Whut? One's the pit bike!

    -- gnat!
    Gnat,

    You LUV the pedals I'm getting for my new CX, don't you?

    I know you do....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnat23 View Post
    And I've all but given up on my geared bike and am resigning myself to my *two* SS crossbikes. Whut? One's the pit bike!

    -- gnat!
    A pit bike for SSCX is a SMART idea! The only reason I am not the champ this year is that my chainring bolts fell out in the last lap of my race, forcing me to run. A pit bike would have been awesome, since the drive train exploded just before the entrance to the pit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheFly View Post
    I'm only considering upgrading the SSCX this year to move to discs (once you have them, you can't run cantis or Vs ever again).
    This is no joke. I have discs on my mtn bike and fat bike. DS is about to inherit my current CX bike (Redline Conquest) and we'll likely pull the trigger on a '14 Felt F65X for me as soon as they are available (2013s are already gone, otherwise we'd have already ordered one). My next road bike will also have disc brakes. After busting my right wrist I especially find that non-disc brakes make my right wrist really sore and weak fast, since it takes so much more effort to squeeze them. It's not so bad on my road bike, which has pretty decent SRAM brakes. But the Kore canti brakes on my Redline are awful. We had hoped that new pads would help, but Dura Ace pads are no better than the low-rent pads that came on the bike.
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