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  1. #1
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    Review: Saucony Kinvara Running Shoe

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    I got mine yesterday. Ended up with the men's version, due to my wide toes. The men's heel was tight enough that I had no issues with heel slippage, my toes were happy, and I didn't want to stop running when I tried them out.

    Before the Kinvara, I was running in Chaco sandals. The Kinvara feels like a Chaco. The sole at heel is almost the same thickness as at the forefoot like a Chaco, so shinsplints are nearly non-existant. The inner strapping of the upper hugs the midfoot without crunching the forefoot, much like a Chaco.

    The midsole is much softer and smooshier than a Chaco, but even as a softie it doesn't lose shape as you land, nor throw you off laterally. The heel-counter is just barely present, a wee bitty of a thing. I'm a big over-pronator, but had no problem keeping good foot posture in the Kinvara even though it is fairly soft and has no "stability" stuff built in. In fact, the softness felt really good, like running on sand.

    There really isn't an outsole. Just patches of denser material here and there. I was a bit concerned that the shoe would break down quickly due to lack of an outsole, but from other reviews I've read they hold up surprisingly well. We shall see what havoc my 205 lbs can wreak upon these dainty creatures...

    The sole as a whole is even and flexible. (unlike the Brooks Green Silence, which I found quite annoying with its thickened stiff area under the fifth metatarsal) You feel the contours of the ground and your foot has to adapt at every step. Much more alert activity required from the foot than in something like a Brooks Ariel or Addiction, and ever so much less tediously repetitive to run in.

    Kinvaras are light. Super silly ridiculously light. When I walked out of the store with the shoe box in my hand, I could have sworn the box was empty. They are a dream to run in. Nearly silent foot falls.

    I was sold when I felt like I was flying on my test run at the store. I fell wildly in love today on my first real run with them when I was able to run twice as far as usual without a SINGLE pain or squeak. And that's without breaking them in!

    Give them a try, they are lovely.

    FWIW: I wear a men's 8.5 in the Saucony Kinvara. I wear a women's 8 wide in Chaco. I wear a women's 10 or 10.5 in Brooks. YMMV.
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    I love the detail in your reviews. Thanks for posting this! I've been eyeing these for myself, as I'll need new running shoes soon.

    After ending up with all kinds of pain and injuries from motion control shoes that more than one running store put me in, I finally decided to try something (anything) different. Switching to neutral shoes was the best exercise-related decision I've ever made.

    Now I just have to decide between the pink and the orange. So hard. Those are my two favorite colors. *sigh*
    2009 BMC Road Racer SL 01 / Specialized Ruby 155
    2007 LeMond Reno / Luna Chix Team Saddle
    1980-something Lotus Odyssey / Brooks Finesse
    1992 Bridgestone RB-2 / Brooks B-17 Imperial
    Nada Bike singlespeed / Brooks Team Pro in white

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    Another thanks for the review. I too, have been looking at the Kinvara...for over a year now, but have yet to pull the trigger on a pair. I've been fairly happy in my Nike Free Run, but just this week started to get some familiar toe pain/numbness (which is usually my signal that it's time for new shoes). So today I ordered a new pair of the Nike Free Run 2 (new version) from Running Warehouse. I'm hoping they will fit exactly like the previous incarnation...but if not, then I will try the Kinvara. I too, need a wide toe box (hammertoes) with a narrower heel. I did try on a pair of the women's Kinvara at my LRS...I tried a size 10.5 and I thought it felt a tad bit narrow in the toe box...my toes felt a little squished. I haven't tried the men's version though, so I'll have to do that. In the Nike Free Runs I wear a women's size 11, and I have lots of toe wiggling room.

    Does the Kinvara have a traditional tongue? It's been a while since I last tried a pair on, and I can't remember if they did or not. That is one of the characteristics about the Nike Free that I love...no tongue to move around and irritate the top of my foot.
    2012 Seven Axiom SL - Specialized Ruby SL 155

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    Mmmmm. Tempting. I'm trying to think if these are the ones I tried on last year ... is the toe box really pointed?
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    Yup, the shoe has a tongue. It's pretty much sewn down, only the last 1 1/2 inches moves. It doesn't shift at all when I run.

    Oak - I'm not sure what you mean about a really pointed toe box? The toe box is quite wide across the toe-break and gradually tapers medially as you go forward. The farthest tip of the shoe would be at the 1st and 2nd toe, where most running shoes it's more toward the 3rd toe (which is generally not the longest toe on folks). Looking at it from above the toe box is asymmetrical, like a human foot. Longer on the medial side than on the lateral side. I guess that would look kind of pointy from above compared to something like an oxford (Doc Marten), but compared to another asymmetrical toe box (Birkenstock) it looks pretty normal.

    I like the fit of the Kinvara toe box, no excess space in front of my toes. (I have Roman feet.) I tried the Brooks Green Silence after the Kinvara. The Green Silence has a rounded symmetrical toe box that left a lot of empty space in front of my last 4 toes and felt a bit like a flipper when I ran. I can see where someone with a dramatic Irish/Greek foot would prefer the rounder toebox of the Green Silence to accommodate the longer 1-3 toes. However, I don't get the impression that the average Irish foot would have any trouble with the Kinvara.
    Last edited by KnottedYet; 05-06-2011 at 06:26 AM.
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    Ok, since I've never heard the terms used before...I have to ask what exactly is an Irish, Greek, or Roman foot? How do they all differ?
    2012 Seven Axiom SL - Specialized Ruby SL 155

 

 

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