better fit in the hips. If the hips are too loose, the chamois shifts around too much, the baggy butt catches on you saddle, etc. If you could order bibs, the waist size wouldn't be so important (I think ?) as bibs are pretty easy around the stomach. Hope it turns out comfy - many companies send out a "fit kit" for groups to try on before ordering. Your group should ask for one next time. tokie



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