I had not realized that a very similar thread had been started on this topic elsewhere - until I posted in it later last night - sorry about that.
I did call TE's wonderful staff today and found out that the PI drop-bib shorts has the one PI chamois that I like - the one in my regular PI elite shorts. I suspect that I will go with these - and if I find the chest clasp irritating I will just remove it![]()



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