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  1. #1
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    Unhappy I hit someone today.

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    one of my worst fears was realized today on my usual 2 1/2 hr ride. i hit a pedestrian. a kid!!!! we are both ok. not sure about the bike. don't have much of an internet connection right now, but i need to get this off my chest.

    it was about 15 mins into my ride. i was on a bike path that is used by pedestrians as well. i have a bell, and my policy is to ring twice when i am far back, to give people time to look behind them and react, and then decide which side of the road they want to move to, and then ring about 2 to 4 times more as i approach. i always slow down, but how much i slow down depends on who i am passing and how aware they are of me.
    today, as i just went over a small bridge, i saw 2 young men and a boy walking ahead. i did my usual ring ring, and the two older ones moved off the path altogether. (there are little walking trails all along the sides of the paved trail that ppl walk on) the young one, about 11 or 12, quickly jumped to one side, then another. i slowed way down and kept ringing the bell even though he was watching me, and he froze right in the middle of the path. i'm not sure how fast i was going, maybe 5 mph? but as i went to pass him, he for some reason started darting from one side to the other and then froze right in front of me. i barely had enough time to turn the wheel away when i hit him, and because i was already on the edge of the path, me and bike fell into the grass and dirt.

    the boy was ok. i asked him over and over and he kept saying that yes he really was ok. i can't believe i did that. you should have seen his sweet little shocked face. i don't know if he is a nervous kid or had a lot on his mind or whatever was going on with him but i don't think he intentionally stepped in front of me, i think it was some sort of nervous reaction. if i had been going faster though, i could have really hurt him. that poor boy.

    surprisingly that fall didn't hurt at all. not even a little. but my bike got hurt.

    well, i think it could have been worse, though. after that happened, i rode for about a minute more and then stopped because i felt guilty and weird. i've never hit anyone or anything with my bike before. i looked over the bike again and didn't see anything wrong other than the handlebars are bent. on the right side, just the top part where the shifter is. everything still works ok though. at least it didn't hit the cement. after calling some people and confessing my sin, i turned around and went home.

    should i have the bike checked over? it just got a tune-up. how much do you think it will cost the get the handlebars fixed....and is it safe to ride with them like that in the meantime? am i going to cyclist hell when i die? i hope you all don't hate me after this.
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  2. #2
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    The good news: you won't go to hell - the kid was old enough to react appropriately, and he clearly saw you - and did something stupid.
    Next time maybe come to a stop but you can't be made to - after all it was a MUP. I always say they wouldn't be that stupid if it was a car, but somehow they think they can with a cyclist.

    The bad: at the very worst you're infor a new handlebar. Get the bike checked if you don't feel safe.
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  3. #3
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    Are your handlebars actually bent - or did the shifter just twist a bit on the bars? The shifter isn't actually a part of the bar, so it can rotate, in fact if the person who installed them was savvy they didn't crank down too hard on them as it is better for the shifter to twist in a fall - then it doesn't break the shifter or the handlebars and you can just rotate it back into place.

    As far as the kid goes - don't beat yourself up too much. You gave him ample warning and he sounds quite old enough to have been in control of himself.
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  4. #4
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    I'm sorry this happened to you. Your strategy for alerting and passing pedestrians sounds good, and the event will probably help the kid develop a better strategy for getting out of the way.

  5. #5
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    Kids scare me on the MUPs more than dogs. They're completely unpredictable. Don't beat yourself up. As AlpineRabit said, he was old enough to make the right choice but didn't. And what about the adults with him? It's also their responsibility to watch out. I think you did all you could. Thankfully neither of you were hurt.

  6. #6
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    Maybe it's because I teach in middle school (me? jaded? nah, they're all darlings), but it seems to me that he was intentionally messing with you and found out he took it too far. He misjudged his prankster ability. Yes, a fifth/sixth grader (11/12 years old) is perfectly capable of that sort of "doofusness". Don't beat yourself up, and I'm glad everyone's OK.
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    You know, I kind of agree with WiteOwl: I think he was messing with you. Jumping back and forth on the path sounds fishy. But even he wasn't, it sounds to me like you did everything you could to avoid a collision.

    Glad both parties are okay!

  8. #8
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    Yup, could have been messing with you. I had a kid do that once. I missed him, but barely, but before I went by I saw the gleam in his eye, and I knew it was on purpose. Your kid was darned lucky it was you and not somebody going 30 mph. On the other hand, you can't always tell by looking at someone that they are "normal". The adults with him had some responsibility too.
    I rode yesterday too, and had a completely different experience with kids. There was a family, mom and dad and three kids, all three kids on little bikes, maybe 4,6, and 8 y/o's, with dad bringing up the rear. They were all on the right side as I approaced from behind, but you never know with kids. I rang my bell and the dad told them all to get over someone's coming. I think it was a game for them to see how close to the edge they could get without going off the trail. Would that they all were like that.

  9. #9
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    I've had kids pretend to jump out in front of my car. It seems to be a middle school thing. I think he was totally messing with you.

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  10. #10
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    >hug<
    Some days are definately better than others when it comes to pedestrians...I had my problems with them this morning too...
    I was a little late getting out the door for my morning ride so the MUP was more crowded than usual. Now, I can understand how an accident *could* happen if I'm behind and passing the pedestrians and for some reason do something unexpected, but for the life of me I do not understand walkers that take up the whole path and refuse to move while walking towards me! I was on the far far right side only inches from the grass with the walkers three abreast across the path FACING ME and the one closest to me would not move in so that I could go by-and she saw me coming from yards away!
    Not only that but... on the way to the path, I have to cross a few intersections and I get off and walk my bike across and along the sidewalk for a bit. This morning, the opposite corner at one of them had about 6 people waiting for a bus. I got off my bike, waited for the signal, and walked across as usual. When I got to the other side there was a woman standing right in front of me blocking the sidewalk, looking me in the eye as I am walking (walking! like I'm supposed to!) the few steps towards her, and not moving (the other ppl had shifted over). Not wanting to have to step out into the traffic on the busy street, I stopped, said, "excuse me", and squeezed by her, all the while with her looking at me with the most puzzled annoyed look on her face, like she had never seen a person on a bike before and who was *I* to ask her to move. I smiled and said, "thank you" and rode off (I go about a block or two on the sidewalk at this point-its a very busy road and the bike lane resumes a little ways up from there-its not the best solution but I really don't want to get flattened) but I was baffled. I am an average size person with an bright copper colored MTB and this morning I was wearing a pink and orange jersey-there is no way any of those people could not have seen me (perhaps they were dazed by the weird color combo-lol)!!!
    I am sorry you had this unfortunate incident, but glad no one involved was hurt.
    Last edited by Medianox; 08-17-2009 at 08:13 AM. Reason: clarification
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  11. #11
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    Some situations leave us w an icky feeling. I've had two icky feeling producing cycling experiences.

    1) A few months after I learned to ride, I hit a jogger. I was in a park during an organized runner's race when she suddenly turned off the course, went perpendicular to the clearly marked runner's lane and into my path. I braked sharply but couldn't avoid her entirely. She skinned her knees. I went down, lost consciousness twice (concussion), had a lump the size of an egg on my head that took over a month to resolve, cuts, road rash, scapes and bruises from my face to my calves. I did get the experience of being "boarded" by the EMTs, got an ambulance ride, brought in via Trauma and having folks strip me to check for damage. Also got to buy a great new helmet! I would rather have had a few more cuts and bruises myself and missed her entirely but that's not the way it went.

    2) Once on a path, a boy of approx 4 years broke away from his dad's grasp and ran right in front of me. I opted for the concrete wall on the other side. Fortunately I was going fairly slowly so it only resulted in a few scratches to my bike and an astonishingly large dark bruise on my inner thigh where my saddle jammed into my leg. I'll never forget the look the dad and I exchanged, both recognizing that it could have had a very different outcome.

    Now I give pedestrians and joggers the widest berth possible even if it means stopping and/or walking my bike. Takes longer time to get places but pedestrians and joggers are too unpredictable.

    PS, I'm pretty confident that I'm not going to hell because of either of the above.

  12. #12
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    +1 with whiteowl and Veronica. I work with almost all men (engineering company). They are always needling one another and tweaking one another. I guess they haven't stopped from their middle school years. I say he was messing with you completely and took it bit too far. I guess he was hoping you would stop. Hitting him like that probably taught him a valuable lesson, not to mess with cyclists or cars.

    Yup you don't want the brake/brifter lever bar cranked down too hard on the handle bar. It's always better if they can twist away in a crash in stead of breaking the lever. I can't imagine your handle bar was tweaked from a slow speed fall. Even at high speed crash I rarely see a twisted handlebar.

    don't be too hard on yourself. You're not seriously hurt, nor the boy.

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    If I recall correctly, that's the age when boys think it's hilarious to do things like pretend to slam their faces into doors and so forth. Whether he intentionally caused you to hit him or not, he was probably trying to scare you and misjudged the situation. Even if his intentions were good and he got confused, I'd say he was old enough to know to stay in one place as you went by. You definitely did everything you could to warn him of your presence and intention, and if he chooses to channel chipmunk behavior instead of acting like a moderately intelligent human being, that's his decision.
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    <<HUG>>
    I'm not sure which scares me most, dogs not on leashes (even though it is marked that they need to be), or tiny kids on bikes. I usually have to opt for the grass on the side of the path, or stop and wait until they go by, or walk my bike. Sometimes the parents have the kids move over, teaching them the correct etiquette for the MUP. Actually, now that I think of it, the people with the iPods who can't hear my bell, or my "Behind you on your left" scare me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackhillsbiker View Post
    <<HUG>>
    I'm not sure which scares me most, dogs not on leashes (even though it is marked that they need to be), or tiny kids on bikes. I usually have to opt for the grass on the side of the path, or stop and wait until they go by, or walk my bike. Sometimes the parents have the kids move over, teaching them the correct etiquette for the MUP. Actually, now that I think of it, the people with the iPods who can't hear my bell, or my "Behind you on your left" scare me too.

    Deb
    I crashed because of one of those people with iPods. She was walking in the middle of the path (too narrow to get by her), so I ended up ditching into a flowerbed. I also nearly hit someone on my way back from the library on my last ride. The man was heading in the opposite direction. How do you miss a big red, white and blue blob yelling at you? I wound up braking hard and missing him by an inch. I hate riding to places on a college campus...

 

 

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