Running Into Fall (but, not falling!)

**michelem** · 10-05-2008, 04:26 PM

So, we finally had some fall weather this weekend - yahoo!

Supposed to get close to 90 again this week, but at least it was nice and cool this morning -- over 20 degrees cooler than last weekend.

If you read yesterday's post from last week's thread, you'll see I was having leg pain. It was highly recommended that I ice, but I HATE ICE!!! So, I went against the recommendation and took a hot bath. AAAAHHHH . . . That along with the Advil I took yesterday afternoon and I was pain free this morning, so I went ahead and drove over to the start of today's 16.25 mile run. When I got there 5 minutes before start, nobody else was there. I waited 20 minutes and then decided to set out on my own. I didn't see another runner the whole morning! Turns out today was the Sacramento Cowtown Marathon and the group was either racing or volunteering. Oh well!

I felt MUCH stronger on this route than I did the first time a month ago. My time was about the same, but I had to take two potty stops this time. I really need to figure something out about that. I pooped 3 times in the hour before I left this morning (even had to run back in the house after I partially backed the car out of the driveway). I got to the starting point and tried the two open places -- gas station and donut shop -- and both did not have public restrooms.

So, I ended up running about a mile down the road to the Starbucks and using theirs. After that, no facilities for about 8 miles (rural backroads). Thankfully, when I reached the firestation at my designated turnaround point, the firefighters were kind enough to let me use their restroom -- diarrhea -- UGH!!!

Made it back to the parking lot and home without incident, thank goodness.

The exciting thing is that I felt much stronger on this run and it didn't seem as far. I still had to walk portions of two very steep inclines at the end, but that is less than I walked last time. Also, I DID NOT FALL!!!

The cool weather (50's and foggy heading out and clear 60's when I got back), made it so much more pleasant as well.

My plan called for an 18 miler today, but with all the hills I think the 16.25 was enough. I felt strong at the finish, like I could have gone farther, but why push my luck? My leg still feels good this afternoon.

Hope everyone else gets off to a great start of the week as well! I look forward to hearing your reports/stories.

**Jolt** · 10-05-2008, 05:43 PM

Well, I did NOT get the week off to a good start running wise...after taking three weeks off because of an IT band problem (and doing stretches/foam roller most days), I decided to do a trail run today after church. After a little more than fifteen minutes, the darned thing started hurting again!! Not cool...I will probably end up going and getting it checked out and try to get some suggestions for how to treat it and have the treatment actually be effective. This not being able to run/go on long hikes has not done anything good for my mood lately...

**kacie tri-ing** · 10-06-2008, 07:34 AM

Ahhh....I love weekends....I really really do.

I usually do tons of work for the next week on the weekend....but not this weekend. This weekend was all about running and biking.

Saturday I went with my running partner to run in a new place. It is a soft surface 5 K look that follows a river. Since I live in the middle of atlanta, I do not get to run in nature beyond city parks during the week!

It was beautiful! We ran 10K, and I felt great. My training partner did not feel great. I think it was too much mexican food friday night

That meant that I ended up cheering her on for the last 5K. I love running with someone though. When I have a bad day, she is there for me...and sometimes she has too much queso, and I am there for her!

Then, I cheered my DH on in his road race...then we drove so I could cheer him on the next morning in a crit....

Then...DH returned the favor by being my support on my 11 mile brutal trail run. The trails are really tough, and I tend to get lost, so he somehow zip around to deliver water, support, and directions while I learn my way around the local mountain trails (he knows them by heart!).

It was really tough. I was lucky to maintain an 11 minute mile on those trails. There were some really good moments though. I finally felt a little bit more in control on the trails, wheras I often feel like I am in a constant state of trying not to fall

I have to mix up some of my training this week, but I am going to get it all in! I have to fly to a conference in memphis this weekend, but you know my running shoes are coming with me!

I do believe that running on soft surfaces is so much better for you. I ran quite a bit this weekend, but I was not hobbling much at all this morning. I just wish it was close enough to do during the week!

Everyone have a great week!

**Jolt** · 10-06-2008, 08:43 AM

Going to the orthopod Friday morning to get checked out and hopefully be able to go to a PT and figure out what the biomechanical issue is that caused the problem in the first place. Looks like I won't be running for a while--probably lots of swimming for a few weeks!

**Aggie_Ama** · 10-06-2008, 08:50 AM

I did 4 glorious miles yesterday morning at the local trail. Even though that meant 5 laps around the path it was fun. A little hot (yes still 90 here) but nice. I really needed to clear my head and it worked, I wanted to go longer but I needed to get home to get ready for my friend's memorial service. I was sad to stop running been a long time since I felt that way!

**colby** · 10-07-2008, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Syndirelah

TAPER WEEK! I will force myself not to run. (although I was told 2 miles would be OK one day this week...). I swam today, and am planning on swimming Wed. and Fri. (easy and slow).

Chicago Marathon on Sunday, my first full! Im so excited/nervous/lots of other things.

Any marathoners out there: advice???

Take it easy, and do what you trained to do.

A little running this week is fine to keep your muscles moving, and keeping yourself busy is a good idea so you don't get the heebie jeebies thinking about all the woulda coulda shouldas.

You'll do great! You've put in the time, this is just the exclamation point at the end of the sentence.

**teigyr** · 10-07-2008, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Syndirelah

Yes, fall running weather! Love hearing about all the trail runs everyone is doing... perfect time to watch the leaves change.

TAPER WEEK! I will force myself not to run. (although I was told 2 miles would be OK one day this week...). I swam today, and am planning on swimming Wed. and Fri. (easy and slow).

Chicago Marathon on Sunday, my first full! Im so excited/nervous/lots of other things.

Any marathoners out there: advice???

You will have so much fun!!! I second what Colby said. This is your reward for all your training

I'd say don't go out too fast...my strategy (of course being sick changed it all up) was to stay at a low HR until mile 18-19. Look around as you run, notice all the entertainment and people out cheering, and just enjoy the experience. As a race official said last Sunday, "you only get one first marathon AND it will be a PR no matter what your time is. Enjoy this one."

I can't wait to hear how your race goes!

**jesvetmed** · 10-09-2008, 10:42 PM

I finally got a run in today!

4.0 miles avg 10.05 min/mile. I walked a bit, jogged and then "ran" for several intervals... my run is a quick jog, really!

This was the first run since my injury during the 60 mile walk. It felt good while doing it -- excellent, really! Sunshine on a crispy fall day! Couldn't be better.

But I've had Ibuprofen for lunch and dinner now. That's ok.. good trade off. Taking it slow and hope to be up to running 2-3x week in a couple of weeks.

**Aggie_Ama** · 10-10-2008, 05:15 AM

Ahhhh finally I felt motivated enough to go run. I have been working on landscaping this week and just worn out but yesterday I put on the shoes and went. Made it 4 laps or 3.2 miles and was pretty happy with that. My legs are a bit sore today but I will live.

Sadly I had to watch Star Flight (not one but two!!) fly over. We had a big wreck at the next intersection from the park on our highway. I didn't see the wreck but I have never seen two Star Flight come out. I don't see anything in the paper so it must not have been a fatality, that provides comfort. I hate running by the fire station (park is next door) and seeing the guys scrambling to leave. I prefer them jogging the trail or playing basketball, that means no one needs them right then.

**michelem** · 10-10-2008, 07:33 AM

Wow! It sounds like everyone but Jolt is having a great week running-wise. Jolt, how are you holding up? Have you seen a PT yet?

This week, my PT worked on releasing my diaphragm. OUCH!!! The left side released right away, but two sessions and the right is still pretty "stuck." I saw her Tues./Thurs. and each night went to the gym and attempted speedwork (intervals Tuesday and tempo last night). Both nights I got pretty bad side stitches (on the right side, of course), right in the area she worked on. So, I ended up walking more than I would have liked.

I'm hopeful for my long run on Sunday though: cooler weather and I don't get side stitches when running at the slower pace my long runs require.

Keep up the good work everyone, and keep enjoying this lovely fall weather!

**kacie tri-ing** · 10-10-2008, 10:04 AM

I had a rough run wednesday and Thursday. My deep lower back on the right side is killing me. I emailed the massage therapist to get and appointment and some advice in the meantime.

It actually hurts more when i step lightly on that leg. I ran six on a trail yesterday, and though it did not feel delightful, it did not feel as bad as walking! That was followed with plenty of ice and some IB profen.

My foot fell asleep while I was running yesterday. I do not take that as a good sign

I have to fly to a conference this weekend, and if there is a pool I might do a little swimming instead of running this weekend!

I have a twelve mile run as my long run, so maybe I should let myself recover some and do that monday on trails when I get back from the conference.

This whole marathon training is very emotional! Some days I feel wonderful. I feel like I could run forever, and I feel like I could do it next weekend and be fine. Other days something really hurts and I am terrified of being too injured to keep training. Anyone else feel this way during training? Maybe I am over reacting

**colby** · 10-10-2008, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by kacie tri-ing

This whole marathon training is very emotional! Some days I feel wonderful. I feel like I could run forever, and I feel like I could do it next weekend and be fine. Other days something really hurts and I am terrified of being too injured to keep training. Anyone else feel this way during training? Maybe I am over reacting

Yes, don't worry, it's normal.

You probably are overreacting, but it happens to all of us, just part of the process. There are ups and downs, the important thing to remember during the downs is that... there are ups!

Hang in there.

**teigyr** · 10-10-2008, 10:33 AM

It happened to me too. There were times I'd go for a short run and think it should be easy and things would hurt. I'd think that there is no way I could ever be crazy enough to think I could run a marathon! I think I over-analyzed and put too much expectation out there.

I am going for (I think) a five-ish mile run today. I am supposed to take it easy this week, I read I should aim for about 1/4 of my pre-marathon training distances as a weekly goal. Um...10 miles then? So I am doing two runs of 2.5 miles and one of 5 miles this week. Hopefully, DH and I will get out on the bikes maybe too. Am already scoping out races for next spring

**Aggie_Ama** · 10-10-2008, 08:10 PM

I went for a 22 minute (so probably about 2 mile) run around the neighborhood. Running the streets is no fun, they are hilly and well hilly. Wahhh. But at least it was fast on the downhills.

I need to do yard work in the morning so no time to bike, I think I will hit the trail for a good long run maybe a recent personal best?

**michelem** · 10-10-2008, 08:55 PM

kacie tri-ing, I'm sorry to hear you're experiencing pain. Swimming sounds like a good idea for this weekend. I would caution against doing your long run before you get your back checked out. I'd hate to see you do more damage.

Hopefully it's something that can be alleviated by stretching (for example, tight hamstrings can cause lower back pain). Keep an eye on your temperature too -- if you get a fever it may be indicative of a kidney infection, which would likely present itself as lower back pain.

teigyr, Are you all recovered from your nasty cold? Here's to feeling lots better!

Aggie_Ama, Have fun on your trail run this weekend.

As for me, I am just hoping this crazy wind dies down soon! We're due for continued high winds tomorrow (yesterday we had gusts up to 38mph . . . haven't yet seen today's report, but it was super windy again today). So, I guess this means I need to finally take my car in for an oil change tomorrow morning since I won't be out running or cycling. What fun.

There is NO WAY I am doing 20 miles on the treadmill, so the wind better die down by Sunday!

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