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  1. #1
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    How can I train with my husband???

    My riding partner is usually my husband but we are at two different athletic levels. He is much more powerful then me and is carrying around a bit of extra weight while I am a light weight and tend to slow on hills but have no problems with steep or long climbs due to lower body weight.

    My question is, how do other pairs ride together and each get a good work out when you are at different levels??? If DH leads I am like a squirrel just trying to keep him in site and not 1/4 mile ahead. When I lead he is just kinda peddlin like it is a Sunday slow ride..............

    Any tips on training or riding together would be GREATLY appreciated!!

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    "Train" separately. "Ride" together.

    It's tough. DH and I have been back and forth with one of us being stronger over the years. when we started riding, I was significantly faster, for a few years. Now it's him for sure - on flats and hills. I can't keep up.

    We're both pretty competitive. It's tough to be unequal and be competitive as we are. So what we do is basically do training rides separately (with training partners) and then "fun" rides together.

    You could also do rides where it's a recovery ride for one person and a training ride for the other. I find it hard not to let the competitive spirit get the better of me in this sort of situation, though.
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    Hi, I sympathise.

    Mr Mo is much faster, fitter and leaner than me. We've been riding a couple of times a week together. We usually do one long ride on the weekend, and he uses it as his recovery ride. We go at my pace which is really slow for him.

    Once a week, we will ride about 15 miles together, which is enough for me, He will them go and do an additional 10 or 15 on his own, and usually incorporates some hills.

    I ride on my own the rest of the week. I am starting to try to find a good training plan that will help me become stronger and faster. Once my MPH increases, I'm sure we will ride together much more frequently.

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    My husband and I are fairly close in ability. He generally climbs faster than I do, so on hills we each do our own ride. He waits for me at the top. Every now and then it will be the other way around for us and I'll wait for him.

    I have a lot more endurance so once we get above sixty miles or so I have a definite advantage.

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  5. #5
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    My BF and I live apart, so most of our rides together are while we're on vacation, not training. He's faster, so he'll pull if he wants a workout, or he hangs back if he wants me to set the pace. When we're on vacation, we use the camera a lot -- he hangs back and gets lots of action pictures of me, or he goes to the top of the climb, takes landscape shots, and then get shots of me summiting.

    You can do things to even things out. Give the faster rider all the gear to carry -- pump, spares, food, etc. Give him a heavier bike -- he rides a mtb or hybrid while you're on a road bike. Have him do an hour of intervals and then come and ride with you.
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  6. #6
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    My husband and I have been riding together for many years and rarely are we at the same fitness level. If we are training for an event, we work on skills together and focus on endurance.

    One summer, I was more fit and could totally out-climb him We were training for a century and found that it worked out great- I'd end up dropping him on the climb, but he'd catch me on the downhill at which point I would latch onto his wheel and draft off him, once we hit the flat we traded pulls. Since we worked on this all summer, we were like a well-oiled machine and we both had our best times ever.

    So, if possible, look at it as a team effort.
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  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedal Wench View Post
    My BF and I live apart, so most of our rides together are while we're on vacation, not training. He's faster, so he'll pull if he wants a workout, or he hangs back if he wants me to set the pace. When we're on vacation, we use the camera a lot -- he hangs back and gets lots of action pictures of me, or he goes to the top of the climb, takes landscape shots, and then get shots of me summiting.

    You can do things to even things out. Give the faster rider all the gear to carry -- pump, spares, food, etc. Give him a heavier bike -- he rides a mtb or hybrid while you're on a road bike. Have him do an hour of intervals and then come and ride with you.

    yea, the stronger rider, if the person would consider cycling with extra weight, as a form of "training" which it truly can be if you plan to go long-distance touring through mountains...you had better first try grocery-shopping with panniers on a long route with multiple long hills at home..

    I think the above reason is that's probably the reason why my partner doesn't get bothered lugging more groceries, but often only if I OFFER initially to carry my share of the weight first. It gives him the option to turn me down. And I have no problems if he turns me down....after all I had to lug all the grocery weight on bike for 16 kms. for several years when he and I lived in different cities.

    He is the one is stronger rider , and has done several rides across the continent.

    We ride together but he does tend to ride ahead because he is stronger, and on quiet routes, does loops for me to catch up. Each of us also ride solo, so he gets to train at his pace and I ride to please myself or do stuff on my own.

    It's truly important for the weaker rider, to become strong, independent rider mentally by not feeling "left behind", particular if the stronger rider already in good-spirit, does reliably wait at different points ahead or slows down abit. The weaker rider should also try riding some long routes at their own pace, at 50-120 kms. solo, to become more indpendent and self-reliant. Then riding with stronger partner still ahead on a different ride, the whole bike ride will be enjoyable for both.

    Often I do lose sight temporarily of him..usually on routes that I know already. So no point worrrying nor feeling left out. If you are touring in an area you don't know, it is important that a couple try to stay within sightline of each other somehow. Otherwise, lots of wasted time, backtracking/hunting for each other.

    by the way, as a couple, we don't talk much while we are cycling. Yelling and not hearing each other while trying to cycle at a fit speed, is not ideal to loving communication. We have a wonderful unspoken cycling language together!
    Last edited by shootingstar; 07-28-2008 at 08:17 PM.

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    My BF and I ride together a fair amount, but when we "train" (hammer) together, it's usually a group ride, where he is having fun contesting the county line sprints and I am hanging on for dear life. He's really happy when I can hang with the big boys, though I'm usually suffering. But hey, cycling (well, racing) is all about improving one's ability to suffer, physically and mentally. So I do those rides, because they are good for me, and fun in hindsight . When we ride solo together, I can just get in the draft if he wants to work harder. Or, I'll let him fly up long hills and then we regroup. It can suck always feeling like you're just having to try to keep up, but at the same time, he says that I make him work hard too. For example, I'll want to hammer on descents and some fun, flat sections to reward myself for going uphill to get there. He likes climbing better. So, we're each stronger/faster/more motivated on different parts of the route and can challenge each other that way. If he really wants to train hard, like when he does his big sprints workouts with the area hammerheads, he goes alone, which is fine with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica View Post
    My husband and I are fairly close in ability. He generally climbs faster than I do, so on hills we each do our own ride. He waits for me at the top. Every now and then it will be the other way around for us and I'll wait for him.

    I have a lot more endurance so once we get above sixty miles or so I have a definite advantage.

    V.
    Hehehe... this reminds me of my ride last sunday. The BF and I ride to a group ride- round trip 73 miles. During the "hammer" portion of the group ride, he was up front when I got dropped (sometimes I can hang, sometimes not- it's prettymuch a race-intensity pace with some cat 1/2/3 men for several miles over large rolling hills). So, to get back at him, on the way home- about mile 65, I dropped the hammer on him... he didn't complain at the time, but later admitted that it hurt him worse than the earlier effort
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    My husband and I ride together even though we are at different athletic levels as well. We don't necessarily "train" together though. Generally, when we do ride together he is ahead of me and when I catch him at rest stops he's typically only been waiting for 4 minutes or so so he's not that far ahead. I do a good job of catching him on downhills as I am more aerodynamic than him on my road bike. I should mention he rides on a hybrid and I ride my heavy, lugged steel road bike. He totally kicks butt on that thing too.

    I ride a lot more by myself but generally if we're riding together he rides ahead of me and we meet up when we meet up. I like it because it works for us and I'm not keeping him from getting his workout and we're still doing it together.
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  11. #11
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    If you want to ride together, I have found its best to have the slower rider setting the pace (on the flat or climbs). If the faster rider wants to pull, then it can also help the faster rider to wear a mirror to see if the slower rider is falling back.

    One way of training together is to do circuits on the same course. So lets say you both want to do a 60 mile ride but you both want to do it at your own pace. So pick a route which is 20 miles let say and do 3 laps. Whoever finishes first, does the course in reverse until they meet up with the slower rider. Then you can finish together.

    This also works for climbs as well. Instead of waiting at the top, the faster person goes back down and meets up with the slower rider. And then climbs back up and back down until the slower person is done. This way the faster person doesn't have to wait a long time at the top and can get more training in over the same period of time.

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    My DH is 10-20% faster and stronger than I am on a good day, and I don't have as many good days as he does!

    One thing that has worked for us is attending the weekly time trial event. We each do our all out effort for the 13km track and compare our experiences at the end. This racing has greatly helped us both in speed and power. It's very cool!

    We also have each had to find other riding partners. I think it is very important for each rider to train with riders who are better (stronger, faster, more skilled), and riders who are about the same skill level and speed, and with riders who are slower or who are learning. If you're not training for something specific, I think it should be a pretty even split between the three types of rides (this is not based on any science or training knowledge, just personal experience / opinion). So, when DH and I ride together, I'm getting my faster rider experience and he's getting his slower rider experience. It works.

    He does "vulture" (go on ahead, then double back), but rarely does he keep going after we ride together, or start sooner then come get me, but we're thinking about those options.

    We act competetive with each other, and have high expectations of each other, so I'm really glad that we use heart rate based training. The system we use is that 80% of our riding should be below the lactic balance point, and only 20% should be above. When I ride with him, most of my ride is above, most of his ride is below. And the cool thing is, I can prove that I'm working harder than he is. This is made expecially easy since our LBP is the same BPM.

    At the beginning of each ride, we usually try to discuss what the pace and type of ride it will be so we both can have realistic expectations. It seems to be working.

    I'll send you lots of butterflies so your rides together are always a pleasure and always accomplish what you want them to!

    Hugs, too,
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    Tandem!

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    Too funny Tulip! In my relationship, a Tandem would be the fastest way to divorce court!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Mo View Post
    Too funny Tulip! In my relationship, a Tandem would be the fastest way to divorce court!
    mine, too, but it works for alot of people.

 

 

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