So, I tried the Fizik Vitesse - I didn't hate it, but I didn't think it was *quite* perfect either.... so, I decided to just try a cut out saddle. I tried the Terry butterfly ti. It seems to have a good reputation.... so, I tried. I couldn't wait until my scheduled ride tomorrow, so I took it for a spin tonight... LOVE IT! I am SO stoked! I do think now, though that the sugar short pad is much too big and causes problems all by itself ... any thoughts on that, girls?