Ok, they're men's pants. REI doesn't make or carry "real" pants any more for women. So we are back to the dark ages (oddly enough, what it was like before REI got into women's clothes in the first place). Searching through the men's clothes for some that fit women's bods.
All the pants I could find in the women's section were mall-rat pants. Low loose waists that gapped terribly and the pants were ridiculously tight through the hips. Oh, and tons and tons of cutsie capris. (I've written letters to the buyers at the behest of REI clerks who are disgusted at the selections they are making for the women's department... no reply, and no change.)
Went to the men's department in desperation. They have organic cotton pants, recycled poly pants, cargo pants, clean-line pants, a tremendous selection of sizes and lengths ALL FOR LESS THAN $50!!!
Was running late, had to get out fast, tried these on and loved them. http://www.rei.com/product/722073?vc...S_CLOTHING_TOC Organic cotton. LONG legs. A waist that not only sits at my *waist*, but also doesn't gap one bit!
Nearest I can figure, the men's baggy style gives the roomy hips and long rise, and the necessity of keeping them from falling off gives the relatively small waist band. Which puts the dudes firmly in the fashion, and gives the gals a pair of pants that actually fit.
I'm usually a 12 or 14 Tall, and bought these in 34 waist 32 length. Perfect.
Love the fabric, the "bronze" color is great, the little zipped coin pocket is very silly but might be useful, and the thigh pocket is small and subtle.



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