Changes to the WADA Code

[RoadRaven]

Link here...

Just for discussion and thought... I'm still thinking...

http://velonews.com/news/fea/13819.0.html

[PscyclePath]

Link here...

Just for discussion and thought... I'm still thinking...

http://velonews.com/news/fea/13819.0.html

Measurements are only as good as the device & process used to collect them. After reading the stuff that Arnie Baker put together for the Landis hearing this past spring, as well as wading through all the transcript, I wouldn't trust the French lab at Chateney-Malabry with a yardstick, much less any sort of electronic instrumentation.

It's interesting to note that other labs (for example, Australia and Belgium) running the same samples tested at the French lab come up negative while France says they're "hot."

Tom

[RoadRaven]

It's interesting to note that other labs (for example, Australia and Belgium) running the same samples tested at the French lab come up negative while France says they're "hot."
Tom

Yeah Tom... this is something I can't quite understand...
1. how it happens
2. that the "odd one out" doesn't concur by 'default' to the other two labs...

[Deborajen]

Yeah Tom... this is something I can't quite understand...

. . .

2. that the "odd one out" doesn't concur by 'default' to the other two labs...

Do they have to?

With so much controversy, I'm surprised there isn't a rule requiring specimens be sent to two different labs via two different couriers. Without a rule, though -- Well, I've never heard of the French having a reputation of encouraging second opinions. It's fairly standard here in the States, but it's not always embraced in other countries.

Deb

[Eden]

My husband and I have always thought that there should be more negative controls and some planted positives in every batch that is tested. When the lab knows its all athletes I think that they are more likely to be "looking for it" (and some of the tests, like EPO if I understand how they do it correctly, can be a bit up to interpretation). If there were more negative controls, a lab turning out false positives would be easier to spot. If there were some that should be positive (and the exact number should be random and secret) then the lab might not be stretching so hard to find someone who maybe looks, possibly a little positive.

[RoadRaven]

Deborah... yes, that would make so much sense - at least two labs... you'd think WADA who thinks more internationally could enforce such a simple rule over nationalistic ideals...

And Eden and partner... YES! Trick samples to ensure consistency, accuracy and mindfulness by the lab staff... excellent!

I vote all of you onto the rule-makers board. You are indeed wise and you have my support