Kona Ute

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

For anyone interested in using their bike for commuting and shopping, this looks like a pretty cool new utility bike from Kona:
http://www.konaworld.com/08_ute_w.htm

Wish I didn't live at the top of a killer hill- no way I could pull 30 lbs of groceries up it on that Kona.
But if you live in an area with only moderate hills, it would be very useful I would think! Leave the damned car home!

[Trek420]

if you live in an area with only moderate hills, it would be very useful I would think! Leave the damned car home!

Uh oh, Kona, xtracycle built in....Knott will just plotz

[Geonz]

Don't assume that it will handle like a regular bike regarding hauling loads On the Xtracycle - I think you'd have to set up the Ute carefully to mimic it - the load is low and next to the wheels and this makes it **much** easier to get moving. It would be worth trying

[onimity]

Doesn't that look like a *cool* bike? If I had room for another bike, that would be it. Maybe I'll sell my car. I'd bet it's actually pretty easy to haul 30 lbs on... maybe you can test ride one, Lisa.

Anne

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Doesn't that look like a *cool* bike? If I had room for another bike, that would be it. Maybe I'll sell my car. I'd bet it's actually pretty easy to haul 30 lbs on... maybe you can test ride one, Lisa.

Anne

It'd be totally easy for me to haul 30 pounds around town on that bike on moderate rolling terrain. But no way could I get 30 pounds of stuff up my hill and home with that bike and those gears. I can barely get my "body groceries" up that hill even with my super low gear bike.
But yes I'd be happy to test ride one if you send it to me!

I love seeing bikes like this being made now. You know what it means? It means that people are starting to use their bikes more for every day living, errands and REAL transportation, rather than just for weekend hobby riding.
Every bike like this that gets used is one less nasty car on the road.

I love it! I also think it's a lovely looking bike. Good for Kona to make a people's bike for real world living.
Bikes love to work for us.

[7rider]

[QUOTE=Lisa S.H.;264445]It'd be totally easy for me to haul 30 pounds around town on that bike on moderate rolling terrain. But no way could I get 30 pounds of stuff up my hill and home with that bike and those gears. I can barely get my "body groceries" up that hill even with my super low gear bike.
[QUOTE]

Good heavens, LisaSH....that Kona has a 26:32 low gear (~22 gear inches). What on earth is YOUR low gear on your Ramboullet that makes it easier to get up your hill vs. this (or are you just remarking on the weight of the bike)???

That said...someone at the LBS was talking about this bike, I think, on Sunday. He was commenting on a bike with an extra long back end, and I mentioned the Xtracycle that I've seen here (on TE), but he said "No." it was something different. I guess that something was this Kona. Neat.

[emily_in_nc]

Yes, you would be surprised what you can haul with a low-enough gear. Think loaded touring! I have pedaled in rolling hills with thirty pounds of groceries or gear in panniers (including the weight of two racks and four panniers), in my granny gear, and I'm tiny and not particularly strong. I have a 19" granny gear on my Bike Friday -- thank heavens! When we did a self-supported tour in upstate NY, there were some very steep climbs around the Finger Lakes. I walked a couple of the steepest ones, it's true, but not many, and only late in in a 60+ mile day.

The key is -- let your DH carry the heaviest stuff, be it groceries, tools (on a tour), etc.!

Emily

P.S. That's a VERY cool bike!

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Good heavens, LisaSH....that Kona has a 26:32 low gear (~22 gear inches). What on earth is YOUR low gear on your Ramboullet that makes it easier to get up your hill vs. this (or are you just remarking on the weight of the bike)???

Well, I'll try to explain.
The reason I am not currently able to use this Kona to haul 30 pounds of groceries up my hill and home:
My rambouillet has a 24:34 low gear (19 gear inches) which I need to climb my home hill (and some other big hills around here) with. It is quite hilly where we live, and we were able to outfit my Ramb with the gears that enable me to ride through this beautiful countryside alongside my husband. We love to ride together. I regularly attempt to get up this particular hill in my next-to-lowest gear (which would be a gear fairly similar to the lowest Kona gear), and I have not been able to as yet.
I'm 53 and until 2 years ago never exercised a day in my life. I have ridden 3300 miles so far this year, and I see myself slowly getting stronger each month. I am confident that within another year or two of steady riding and hills I will be able to get up that hill and others just like it without resorting to my lowest gear...but I'm not there just yet. I use my lowest gear on a daily basis, -but never when I don't feel I really need it to make a climb. There are some big hills that I do indeed climb using a higher gear than I did a few months ago...but not that hill yet.
If you threw 30 pounds of cargo on my Rambouillet I doubt I could make it up my hill at all at this point in time, and that's in a lower gear than the Kona has. I'd go from a 2.5 mph climb to going backwards. I'm working as hard as I can, Regina!

[KnottedYet]

Uh oh, Kona, xtracycle built in....Knott will just plotz

Nope. I already knew about this one.

It isn't compatible with any of the Xtracycle components, and it only handles little baggies (though it can take two on each side). No passengers, no goodies. I would be going for the Surly Big Dummy (Xtracycle compatible) loooooong before the Kona Ute. http://www.surlybikes.com/new.html (click the Big Dummy frame pic for info, it's a little pop-up window)

Actually, before that I'd be taking an older Kona Smoke (not a 2008) and turning it into an Xtracycle.

[Tri Girl]

The Kona is a pretty bike! Although I just spent an embarrassing amount of time on the Xtracycle site and now I want one of those. Especially because you can transform your own bike to an Xtracycle without buying another bike. That makes tri girl very happy (and makes DH very happy, too ). I had seen you ladies with them, but didn't know anything about them- and now I want one. I'd love to go car-free (or at least down to one car for the fam), but cannot do so until I'm able to transfer to a school much closer. 4 hours of commuting a day just isn't possible right now.
Anyhow- I digress.

Thanks for posting this, and for getting me interested in yet ANOTHER bike. (hee hee, I'm just kidding)

[SouthernBelle]

The 2 bags included are small, but it says it can carry 4. I'd just swap out to some big grocery panniers.

[KnottedYet]

I would love it if the Ute could use Xtracycle bags and braces and decks and expanders and footsies and blender and stoke-monkey and such. Xtracycle has developed some great cargo stuff. http://xtracycle.com/index.php

Where is that picture of SaraLou riding the Xtracycle on the passenger deck with her husband and her dog? (they picked her up at the airport, LouLou was in the basket on the handlebars)

Edit: here it is! scroll down a few posts http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showt...light=footsies

And, oh, the Sacha White Vanilla longtail (Xtracycle goodie compatible) is sooooooo elegant... http://bikeportland.org/2006/10/04/v...ame/#more-2241 Now, *that's* the mixte I REALLY want!

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Nope. I already knew about this one.

It isn't compatible with any of the Xtracycle components, and it only handles little baggies (though it can take two on each side). No passengers, no goodies.

Hi Knot,
But what about the large platform along the top of the back rack on the Kona? There seems to be a piece of something there to create a flat platform deck- isn't that for loading things on top of the rack as well as in the side bags? Surely they didn't create a long flat deck there and not intend it to be used?
The Kona reminds me a bit of the higher end custom Sweet Pea Farmer's Market bike:
http://www.sweetpeabicycles.com/blog...armers-market/
(Naturally the Sweet Pea is way more $, plus a long waiting list.)

[margo49]

These remind me of bikes we used to see in news clips from the Vietnam War. Or Red China (as it then was) when western tv was first allowed in there.
And bikes I saw in Asia when I was travelling in my misspent yoof.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Your'e right, Margo,
What's more, people in third world countries would be appalled at the kind of money we might consider spending on a bike to haul groceries home with.
On the other hand- it's less wasteful than buying a huge SUV just to haul groceries home.