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  1. #1
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    Question Spin Teaching...tips, any regrets?

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    I found spinning first before road cycling. Due to some health issues, I could no longer no impactive exercise, and was told biking was an option for me. I had always been a high impact aerobics class person before. Thankfully, the spinning fit the bill. Then, once in class a while, the roadies helped me find the joy of outside as well. I have been asked to get cert to teach spinning and am debating if it would change my love for it. One of my roadie guy friends said it "would kill my spirit to ride, and it would then become work". Maybe true. I have the fear of course of being in front of the class, as you can not make everyone happy. But, it is something I whole heartedly believe in for any fitness level. Also, I have a bit of both camps to offer as a potential instructor. There is one camp, more just cardio class people, that love it for the music/organization etc. The other camp, are the roadies, who like more of the technical style. We have different teachers that fit both with the experiences and style--but no one person that is of both. I guess for any of you ladies that teach, any thoughts or advice... or any other non-teaching ladies comments. Thanks!

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    Wow! I totally could have written that post!

    Becoming a Spinning instructor has been one of the best things I've done. I love my job! In no way has teaching lessened my love of riding outdoors or of the Spinning environment. The only time they conflict is when I'm tapering for a race, then I just teach my Spinning class off the bike. I do wish I would attend other instructors classes more...I do get tired of myself every once in a while.

    Everybody goes through the fear of being in front of the class. I used to be a very shy, introverted person. Becoming an instructor has helped me become much more outgoing, and I'm no longer afraid to speak in front of groups.

    I think you can teach in a way that can make both the cardio-class people and the roadies, who do occasionally come indoors, happy. I have both come to my classes, and they keep coming back, so I must be doing something right.

    So, I say go for it! You'll never know how you'll feel about it until you give it a try. You can always stop instructing if you find it doesn't work for you.
    If you can read this, take a pull.

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    My favorite, and IMHO the best spin instructors at my gym, are also cyclists. I think this is because they are more focused on fitness results through interval training and such rather than an hour-long stream of pure cardio and cheerleading/drill sargent hollers. I also know they get better results from their new spinners, even, or especially those with a lot of weight to lose. The very best instructor is a champion masters road and track racer who often teaches off the bike. He can walk around, check your HR, offer tips/encouragement, refill your water bottle, etc. He observes his spinners carefully and seems to have a clear idea of their status and improvement. His class are almost always full.
    The non-cyclist spin instructors more often come in, jump on the bike, ride like maniacs for an hour, and go. Some people prefer them, I guess, but when I must take one of their classes, I ignore or modify their routines (push ups on the handle bars while doing high-cadence? how about I spin and then do real push ups on the floor, instead?)
    I think of all the trainers at the gym, the spin instructors have the best opportunity to take unfit people under their wing and help them get real results. So I say, please go for it! Confront those front-of-the-room jitters (DH and I both did in the educational world and are now considered classroom naturals, hoho) and help people change their lives!

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    Spin - riding and teaching

    hello Miranda

    I teach spinning, and mountain biking, this summer i even worked at a mountain bike camp...

    I found doing this WAS definitely too much. I did start to burn out.

    I decided this fall not to teach at all, and focus on my personal training side of my business, i will tell you how things go.

    As for certifications - choose wisely. They can be expensive to take, and to maintain. Mad Dog Spinning is what i have. The main draw back is no "apprenticeship" you are on your own trying to apply what you have learned.

    I love teaching spinning, the environment is fantastic and it definitely helps that i race and ride. I have found that i dont "trust" instructors that don't have true riding experience.

    Those are some random thoughts.

    Enjoy and have fun!
    Hannah
    "The greater the obstacle, the more glory in overcoming it."-Moliere

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    Thx Ladies for the thoughts...

    Thx ladies for the thoughts on the teaching . Still thinking about it, and good points made to help me decide.

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    I'm an outdoor cyclist AND an indoor cycling instructor that has been at it since 1996. In no way my enthusiasm waned from teaching indoor cycling. In fact, I was strictly a mountain biker when I started teaching and ended up converting or at least changing my primary focus to road biking after teaching the classes for awhile.

    I do find that my classes attract more people that include cyclists and competetive riders as well as the more typical member looking to get fit and/or lose some fat.

    I didn't come from an aerobic background and that is probably one of the reasons I never thought about making my class choreographed aerobic work. I run my own in-home personal training business and have always focused on basing my classes on training with a purpose which means the members know what the focus of each class will be and how it can benefit them.

    By the way, I was (and still am in a non-class situation) an introvert, but it's something that's easily overcome when you are following a passion. I hope you seriously consider getting certified and start teaching. There are way too many classes taught by people that want to "jazz" up a cycling program by adding non-cycling contraindicated stuff.
    Vertically challenged, but expanding my horizons.

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    Just another thought.

    I teach aerobics, not spinning. (Indoor bikes hurt my knees, and besides I hate cardio machines.)

    Before I started teaching, I did aerobics almost every day. I started teaching about the same time that I came back to cycling. So I'm not getting any less cardio than before.

    But it's definitely a different dynamic when one instructor goes to another instructor's class. If attendance is high at your gym, you may not even be able to go to other instructors' classes if the bikes are filled by paying members. Putting together a class is more work than I ever imagined, and I definitely would not want to teach every day.

    Just something to think about with the winter months approaching and less light for outdoor riding... how will you get your cardio on the days you don't teach?
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 10-12-2007 at 12:56 PM.

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    Snob Confessions & more good points, thx!

    More good points. OK, I'm thinking about the comment on going into another instructors class. Do you mean to take the class, or sub to teach the class? I think you mean just to take it, with the teacher knowing you teach as well...with perhaps the idea that one's work is being "critiqued" by a fellow instructor?

    Some of the teachers, I noticed on the side, there is a bit of gossip. Which is not me at all. Just a negative waste of energy.

    At first, I was a bit of a spoiled brat cry baby to a diff teacher from the one I "loved". Then, after having to mix it up, by schedule forced alone, I developed a humbled appreciation truly for all the teachers and the unique values they incorportated into their classes.

    The combination of them, made me such a better spinner, and lead to the one technical teacher helping me find the road. Now, another cofession, of something I went thru, post becoming a road rider, is that I found myself a bit snobbish again, towards some of the teaching techniques.

    Some I think go against the fundamentals of teaching a group class to all levels & spinning in general. Some go against what I know to do on the road. Resistence is one example.

    I'm still learning about road riding, but as a new cyclists, one thing I used to do, that aided in killing a prior knee injury I had, was to push too hard of a gear. Now, I use my cadence, vs a knee stressing gear, to get me what I want, and my injury likes that better.

    If I am not up to the resistence drills to the fullest in spin class, because my knee is maybe sore from a prior day's outside ride etc, I use my cadence for my intensity and modify. Or use same cadence, and less resistence.

    One teacher razzes me about it, and once on her "walk around class" (which I personally hate as a spinner--I'm a responsible adult, in a voluntary adult class to benefit myself, I do not need a babysitter to announce my stats mid class and make a big whoop about it--on the whole, I'm all "the animal" that I'm capable of giving, so back off) she turned my resistence dial mid drill, and about blew my knee out--hurt, had my eyes closed, I didn't know she was there until she did it. I could have choked her.

    Also, my asthma meds just spike up my heart rate a bit, so I know I will be higher than the average spinner in class, it's a side effect, but my doc's ok with it, my heart can take it etc., and she'll razz me about that. I have said, "ok, I'm modifiing for a reason etc...", general good class rule of thumb for things to be safe. Just irritating, and a bit dangerous on the day she messed with my tension dial.

    So, ok, on my snob critique, those things would be something I would NOT do as an instructor. Thx for listening to the rant!

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    These comments made me laugh. I taught aerobics for 10 years and things inside the gym haven't changed much! I DID get burned out on teaching aerobics and was quite happy to be a consumer of the services. A couple of years after that, I started cycling outdoors.
    I have thought about teaching spin, but I know that the pressure of "performing" could get to me. And the clients do "talk" some nasty gossip about instructors. I am not afraid of being in front of the class (I taught kids for 30 years), but you all are correct in stating that there are 2 types of people who teach spin... outdoor cyclists and aerobic instructors. I find the groupie aerobic people tend to like the aerobic instructors who do all the stuff I consider to be contraindicated, like super high cadence while doing a standing run on the bike. The outdoor cyclist instructors seem to be able to meet the needs of a wider range of clients. Well, I am still riding outdoors and I guess I will be deciding about getting certified soon.

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    Miranda- have you become an instructor yet? i just came across this forum, and quickly found this post. If it is at all avalible to you in your area, seriosly consider training with Les Mills. The spinning program is called RPM (Raw Power in Motion). It is headed by a world ranked mountain biker, everything you are taught is up to date and every 3 months you get new material and education. the website is lesmills dot com. It seriously is an amazing program and to me is much more simular to outdoor riding than a traditional spin class. you can check out my profile if you wish, lessmills dot com slash willadean
    I had knee surgery and this class rehabed my knee. it is amazing.!!

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    some more comments on teaching

    I hope everyone is doing well!

    I wanted to add some comments on teaching and spinning. One of my pet peeves are instructors who use their class teaching time for their own workouts. I know the truth is, that is why they might have become instructors and that is the only time, BUT, your responsibility as an instructor is the safety of your class. You cannot possibly pay attention to your participants while you are trying to maintain and 85% max HR spin. I think it is important for instructors to walk around the class to check that breathing is ok and pick up towels or refill bottles. You would be amazed how students will forget to breathe, or maybe their towels will fall, and then they pull something trying to stay on the bike and reach for their towels.

    Anyway, as an update - I have decided to give my career in fitness a break and i have taken on a full time job as an environmental scientist. After five years of teaching mtb, spinning, yoga, and personal training, i have found that yes, training has become work and no longer fun. I will continue to do some PT (more like consulting, seeing my clients on a monthly basis) and my annual womens mtb clinics (they are so inspiring to me, a great way to start the summer).

    I'm actually signed up for a spin class tonight. I haven't been a participant in a spin class in at least a year, and i haven't taught classes in wow, also a year. We shall see!

    remember to keep life well balanced - mind body spirit -

    H
    "The greater the obstacle, the more glory in overcoming it."-Moliere

    "Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time." -Thomas A. Edison



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    my first spin class in a while

    Well, i managed my first spin class in a long long time. I enjoyed letting go and not having to teach. It was pretty good but here are my thoughts:

    1) my instructor never introduced herself, nor did she do any safety checks (knobs, shoelaces, water)
    2) her cues were confusing and she was using technical jargon, which i knew about, but i think many people did not.
    3) she never reminded us to drink water or check our breathing. from experience i know people need to be reminded.

    like i said, i enjoyed being the participant, it was fun and music was good.

    smile

    Han
    "The greater the obstacle, the more glory in overcoming it."-Moliere

    "Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time." -Thomas A. Edison



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    I'm not an instructor, just a participant. My only real input (and I think someone else said it, too) is this:

    Just hold it all loosely, and remember that just because you start a course of training, or teaching, it doesn't mean you can't quit at any time if you discover you don't like any of the effects of it in your life.

    Just stay in touch with how you're feeling about it all, and go with what gives you energy and satisfaction. If it stops doing that, consider what change you need to make at that time.
    "The best rides are the ones where you bite off much more than you can chew, and live through it." ~ Doug Bradbury

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    well said

    well said starfish - yes there is a big difference of teaching spinning for fun, versus taking on a career in fitness. I definitely made my entrance into this career quite gradually, teaching mtb and spinning first, then getting into PT and other types of classes. This worked for me, because i was able along each step to figure out where to go next, and what education i needed to get there.

    After 5 years, I have decided i have enjoyed this journey, but i needed a new direction.

    You also have to remember that in terms of a fitness career- its a very physcially demanding job - and you have to think of what you will do (or may want to do or what your BODY will want to do) after working 5, 10 20 years...My good friend after 25 years of teaching cardio, has had a hip replacement. She loves what she does, would never give it up, but over time, this is what has happened to her body. she has been doing this FULL TIME for 25 years. This is different than taking on a couple of classes a week.

    Just some food for thought (as always).

    Han
    "The greater the obstacle, the more glory in overcoming it."-Moliere

    "Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time." -Thomas A. Edison



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    Quote Originally Posted by han-grrl View Post
    You also have to remember that in terms of a fitness career- its a very physcially demanding job - and you have to think of what you will do (or may want to do or what your BODY will want to do) after working 5, 10 20 years...My good friend after 25 years of teaching cardio, has had a hip replacement. She loves what she does, would never give it up, but over time, this is what has happened to her body. she has been doing this FULL TIME for 25 years. This is different than taking on a couple of classes a week.

    Han
    Han, is there really a causal relationship there? My dear father had a hip replacement. He never did anything close to fitness in his life. So can I say that not taking a fitness class caused him to have a hip replacement? No, just like you can't say that your friend's hip replacement was caused by 25 years of fitness instructing.

    If you are a good instructor/trainer/coach, you will take precautions to ensure that you don't damage your body (or your ears from the music). I know folks who have worked in the fitness industry for decades and they are fit and healthy.

    Don't let the fear of long-term effects dissuade you from becoming a fitness professional. I think most would agree that the potential positive benefits far outweigh the negative impact.

    Lorri

 

 

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