Lactate Buffer Discussion

[Zen]

(aka"Sportlegs)from Carmichael Training Systems

[RoadRaven]

Very interesting, Zen
I hadn't heard of Lactate Buufers - but I tend to agree with them.

Lactate supplements are a great idea in principle. Unfortunately the claims are not supported by science—in fact in this case, we believe the available science on lactic acid formation and removal rejects the claims put out by the manufacturers.

At best, we can see the possibility of a placebo effect causing users of these lactate buffers to see improvements in their performances. And, we realize there’s no denying the power of positive thinking (i.e., “If it says I’ll go faster, I will go faster.”).

Without some kind've scientific rigour, I would be dubious.
If it was that easy wouldn't the pros be using and endorsing? (And then it would probably be added to the banned substances list anyways)

I think I'll stick with a couple of intense rides a week to lift my LT, and gentle spins to disperse the lactic acid....

[RoadRaven]

Whoops... BUFFER
Can't seem to be able to edit that post

[sundial]

I read the chocolate milk article as well. Both are very informative and well written.

[Zen]

I hadn't heard of Lactate Buufers - but I tend to agree with them.

You missed that whole Sport Legs thread?

[RoadRaven]

That whole sports legs thread... hmmm.... it rings a bell... I guess I didn't make the connection with Lactate Buffer being the heading in the link

i'm off to search for sports legs - wasn't it someone promoting the stuff... gargh, confused, will go check it out...

Road ~ feeling-rather-ditzy-after-my-race-today ~ Raven

[RoadRaven]

I hadn't heard of Lactate Buufers - but I tend to agree with them.

You missed that whole Sport Legs thread?

Um... I can't find it...

And then I look at what you quoted me on, Zen, and it looks like I agree with Lactate Buffers! LOL, I meant to mean I agreed with the 'them' who wrote the article!!!

[han-grrl]

we had learned of the ideas behind lactate buffers, and the amounts it would take to completely buffer the acid produced during high intensity exercise, would be far too high. I don't know about these supplements in particular though...

PERSONALLY, these artifical supplements is just another example of the "how to get rich quick" schemes that many people have when it comes to their fitness. "i want to be the best right now, right away" and they don't want to put in the time it takes to train their bodies to handle the acids produced (which by the way, it isn't lactate that is causing the burn, its actually another acid, but that's a different story). There is no research over long tern use of these supplements...and my opinion, i like the old fashioned way of practice, training and patience.

TWO CENTS!



Han

[Zen]

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showt...ight=sportlegs

And what is the guilty molecule if not oxaloacetate?
(I want THREE cents)

[KnottedYet]

And what is the guilty molecule if not oxaloacetate?
(I want THREE cents)

Wow, I think that word is worth at LEAST a nickel!

The only thing I really got out of the Sportslegs thingy (and mind you I flunked organic chem 2 times before finally passing it!) is that Sportlegs have the same things in the same proportions as my calcium supplements I get at Costco. I would just need to take like 3 or 4 of them at once.

If I shaved my Legs, would they be more Sporty?

[RoadRaven]

Thanks Zen
I searched for "sports legs" and "sport leg" and got nyada!
I do remember following that thread now - and the response from the manufacturers/sellers.

Hann, I think that view is worth much much more than 2 cents!
As I say, I agree, if it was that easy, everyone would use it, and then such products would be listed as banned substances...

Knotted - you don't shave your legs???
LOL, I only ever shaved my legs in summer - until I started cycling. Now I shave every Friday night at least in prep for Saturday racing - they write our numbers on our left leg... so its a vanity thing.

I'm off for a long workout today - sort that lactic acid the "natural" way