I got a little ribbing from this but how I measured mine was to put some Playdough between waxed paper and then sit on it. Very easy to see the indentations from your sit bones. Who's that laughing???![]()
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How do you tell what it is? I read here where someone sat on a piece of paper in their office chair. I tried that and could not tell a thing from it.
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I got a little ribbing from this but how I measured mine was to put some Playdough between waxed paper and then sit on it. Very easy to see the indentations from your sit bones. Who's that laughing???![]()
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I took a piece of paper and put it on a shop stool. Becauser I had to sit lower, I think my sitbones left better impressions. I found this worked best.
If you know of a Specialized dealer, they have a butt-o-meter to measure your sitbones.
You chickies must have some boney butts- with all the padding on mine I couldn't get a clear definition of my sit bones.![]()
Butt-o-meter, eh??? Even if I didn't need my sit bone measurement- might be something I'd have to try out- just to do it...![]()
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I swallowed my pride and went to lbs to have it measuredI think we were both embarr"assed" a bit but they had me sit on a piece of foam and measured from there.
Someone here had suggested sitting on a piece of paper on the curb, which I tried, but that didn't work for me.
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If your butt is too padded (as mine seemed to be...) then sit on the floor or other hard surface and rock back/forward a little and you should get a sense of where the main pressure from your bones is.
Alternately you can just grab your butt (or get the person who likes to grab your butt to fondle it for you) and rub/massage gently and you should be able to feel the point of your bones from that...
Remember that your sit bones are part of your pelvis, and as such will be somewhere above the top of your thigh bones... what I'm trying to say is don't look for your sitbones on the widest part of your butt cheeks...
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My pilates instructor has given me two methods, they work for my body.
Standing method (if you have very long feet or flexible hip sockets, this may not work, most of us are proportional though)
1. Stand with your feet together.
2. Keeping your ankles together, point your toes away from your ankle (so your feet are in a V)
3. Align your ankles with your toes. Your heels should be about sits bone width apart.
Sitting:
Sit down on the ground and kind-of pull your buttock flesh (sorry, cant't think of a more technical term) out from under you. You'll feel your sits bones a lot easier this way.
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dont think i really sit back on my underneath 'sit bones'-- (ischial tuberosities)-- i think i sit with much more weight fwd onto pubic symphysis and kind of form a triangle of weight bearing like that, with less on the 'sit bones'-- it works for me anyway :-)
I did the 'butt-o-meter' thing at my LBS but I didn't buy it. It said that my sit bones and my husbands sit bones were the same distance apart.
I came home and tried measuring them myself. I sat on the floor and grabbed a fabric tape measure. I held it between my fore fingers and thumb with about 5 inches between my hands. I rolled onto my back, flipped my legs up over my head (ie. held them up in the air towards my head), and then felt around on my butt until I found the bones on both sides. I positioned the tape measure at the bones and held on to it. I put my legs through my arms still holding on to the tape measure and voila! I had the distance between my sitbones.
(I was not nearly as contorted as this description makes it sound.)
Sure enough, DH and I do have the same width between our sitbones. Who would have thunk it...me with my big butt and him with his 'no butt'!
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This may be a stupid question, but if you are contorting yourself to measure your sitbones, aren't they moving into a different position? Or is that only in childbirth?
Second, if one knows one's sit bone width, what does one do with that information? Isn't there still some personal preference as to how your newly mapped sit bones contact the seat? It's not like a shoe where the high point of the arch lines up with the high point of the arch support. Or is it?
I found a saddle I really liked on my third try. And the method was all art no science. On the first two I was pretty conscious of what hurt and why and then I just let my head picture what my butt would like to be sitting on. Browsing in the LBS, I just recognized the contours I pictured, bought it and it's been great. A woman's intuition thing: can't argue that!
some manufacturers base their saddles on different widths. The idea is that the saddle should support your sit bones. Specialized sells saddles in 130, 140 and 150 MM widths. The width of the sit bones has no relationship to the size of your *ss, it's about your skeleton and getting supported by the skeleton, not the soft bits. So there is some science to it. I LOVE my Specialize AVG Body Geometry saddles that have been sized to fit me, I have the same one on all my bikes.
The rule of thumb I've seen is that you add a cm or 2 to each end of your sit bone measurement, and then start looking/trying saddles with at least that width. The wiggle-room margin lets you change positions on the saddle and scootch around without losing the support under your sitz.
As far as where on the saddle your bones contact, that seems to depend on the shape of saddle you like. Some folks have hip joints that work best with a pear shaped saddle and they can really scoot around to adjust to what they are doing on the bike. Or they race, and need to have lots of position options that a pear-shape gives them.
Some folks have hip joints or riding styles that work best on a "T" shaped saddle, and that seems to limit where you can put yourself just because there isn't a gradual transition from sitting part to nose. You're either on the sit part, or on the nose. I do better on "T" saddles, and still feel like I have plenty of scootching room for my easy-going riding style. (I'm just so happy to have a saddle that supports my wildly wide 170-180mm sits, that the saddle just feels miraculous anyway!)
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The pelvis is a pretty solid ring, so the parts of it aren't gonna move much in relation to each other. The ischial tuberosities do have a bit of an angle to them (slightly wider posteriorly, and narrowing in the pubic bone direction). The weight-bearing part is pretty built-up bone, but it does retain a bit of that angling. Depending on how you're built and how you roll your pelvis when you measure, you might measure the forward or rearward parts of the sitz. But it's not ususally going to be a huge difference. Whatever bit of the sitz you measure will at least give you a starting point in your search.
The proof is in the ride, so don't get too hung up on measurements. If you find a saddle that you swear should be too narrow, but it feels marvellous, go for it! Same with "mens" saddles. I have honkin' womanly hips (thanks mom!) but the saddle that fits me and lets me ride 50 or 60 miles pain-free is a MEN'S. If you find saddle you like and it happens to be a men's rather than a women's, go for it!
Don't let labels or measurements stop you.![]()
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