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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by indysteel View Post
    Yeah but that weight savings comes at a price. Even the AL version of the Warbird is a far bit more expensive than the Crosscheck, Vaya or Casseroll. Plus, it's AL. I wonder how it rides in comparison.
    Bwahaha! Surly states on their blog that they're thinking of pouring molten lead into their frames because so many people say they're "heavy". LOL.

    I have an LHT. I love it. It's not that heavy. If you're not competing in the pelotons of racing glory, you should be just fine.

    Surly's are the most versatile, capable bikes with possibilities for modification, that I've ever come across. The Cross-Check can fit really big 700x45c tires. Such a cushy darned ride! The LHT has big clearances too! I've ridden long distance on my LHT, it's not impossible. I don't think the Salsa's are as modifiable or customizable to suit the rider's tastes. Which now that I've owned a Surly, I don't know if I can get enough of!!!

    I also like that Surly powdercoats their bikes, which isn't pretty but is extremely durable.

    My brain keeps nagging, get a Rivendell, but where would I park that fancy of a bike. Nowhere. I don't live in a high-crime city, but damn I'd need 16frickenlocks to lock up that thing. And a car alarm. And a doberman. I already lock my bikes like a crazy-person anyway. #bikethievessuck

    Best of Luck in your search! *get a cross-check* Tee-hee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by moderncyclista View Post
    Bwahaha! Surly states on their blog that they're thinking of pouring molten lead into their frames because so many people say they're "heavy". LOL.

    I have an LHT. I love it. It's not that heavy. If you're not competing in the pelotons of racing glory, you should be just fine.

    Surly's are the most versatile, capable bikes with possibilities for modification, that I've ever come across. The Cross-Check can fit really big 700x45c tires. Such a cushy darned ride! The LHT has big clearances too! I've ridden long distance on my LHT, it's not impossible. I don't think the Salsa's are as modifiable or customizable to suit the rider's tastes. Which now that I've owned a Surly, I don't know if I can get enough of!!!

    I also like that Surly powdercoats their bikes, which isn't pretty but is extremely durable.

    My brain keeps nagging, get a Rivendell, but where would I park that fancy of a bike. Nowhere. I don't live in a high-crime city, but damn I'd need 16frickenlocks to lock up that thing. And a car alarm. And a doberman. I already lock my bikes like a crazy-person anyway. #bikethievessuck

    Best of Luck in your search! *get a cross-check* Tee-hee!
    My tiny little LHT (42cm) is piggy on weight. Nearly 30lbs. It's built with fairly lightweight stuff: XT drivetrain, 23h Bontrager Mustang wheels, and lightweight Delta/Blackburn racks. But it's still a cadillac ride. I've done a few 60 mile day rides with it.

    My pseudo-Crosscheck (Motobecane Fantom CXX) is a bit heavy, but a frisky ride compared the the LHT.

    Surly bikes are pretty awesome for the pricepoint. My SO has an LHT and a Crosscheck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eofelis View Post
    My tiny little LHT (42cm) is piggy on weight. Nearly 30lbs. It's built with fairly lightweight stuff: XT drivetrain, 23h Bontrager Mustang wheels, and lightweight Delta/Blackburn racks. But it's still a cadillac ride. I've done a few 60 mile day rides with it.

    My pseudo-Crosscheck (Motobecane Fantom CXX) is a bit heavy, but a frisky ride compared the the LHT.

    Surly bikes are pretty awesome for the pricepoint. My SO has an LHT and a Crosscheck.

    What would you use the LHT for that you wouldn't use the Gunnar?

    (Man, that was a awkward sentence, must be tired. . . )
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    I did everything on my first bike - Rivendell Rambouillet, commuted to work, self supported tour of Nova Scotia, towing a trailer, and my first three double centuries (200 miles in 1 day).

    So yeah it's possible.

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    +1 on the suggestion to get a fit.

    When I shopped for my current bike, I started with a fitting to get some recommendations on bikes to test. I did this after testing many, but without a clear idea of what to try. I find testing bikes is not easy and I most definitely did not enjoy the process: bike shops won't have the right size, some do less than a cursory fit for you to test; you may not know the neighborhood and might be concentrating more on where you are riding instead of the feeling of the bike.

    With my old bike, I put too much weight on my arms and shoulders. They bike was somewhat big for me and I needed (and always will need) more work on my core. I admit that work on my core sporadically. I also put it to the test on the bike, by riding stretches where I keep my riding position but put no weight on my hands at all.

 

 

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