Say It Isn't So (TDF Stage 11- SPOILER)

**spazzdog** · 07-13-2006, 01:27 PM

Mayo seems to always "be sick" at TdF time. He hasn't performed up to his hype since 2003.

It's been interesting to watch the scattiwompus way each stage seems to work out... today's was exciting to watch with all the change ups.

But my big question is what's up with Discovery? They've all ridden like gods in support of Lance. He's not there... but their cumulative talent is. Is there a "power" struggle within the ranks, i.e. Bruyneel didn't name a leader so no one is supporting anyone. Nor is anyone seizing the opportunity to BE the leader. It's bizarre to watch that much talent fall further and further down the GC.

spazz-o-rant-over

**Deborajen** · 07-13-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by slinkedog

. . . Landis was trying to keep his condition a secret because he was afraid he would lose his job. He even made it through a team physical without it being detected. . .

Do these guys have entirely too many endorphins or what?

That's amazing!

I'm a fan of Floyd, but I'd picked George to win today so I'm a little disappointed for George. Hate to hear him say it's over for him this Tour. Look at Levi's comeback today. With all the ups and downs, who knows where they'll all end up. It certainly isn't boring!

Deb

**snapdragen** · 07-13-2006, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by slinkedog

I don't know if you read the article that someone linked to in another thread, but Landis was trying to keep his condition a secret because he was afraid he would lose his job. He even made it through a team physical without it being detected. You should read the article... it's really good!

Exactly! And the same article also says how much he hates whiners --- "I didn't win because of this or that" He wan't about to use his hip as an excuse.

**SadieKate** · 07-13-2006, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Lenusik

And they have to be fair to the public.

Why would disclosing this information be "fair to the public"? Fair is competing on a level playing field according to the rules. Perhaps you think each rider should disclose every headache or toothache each morning? What possible need is there for the public to know this information?

Floyd has performed superbly and fullfilled the terms of his contract. I doubt that the contract has an obligation to report his health to the world and put his job at risk. Was it Cofidis that cancelled Lance's contract when his cancer was diagnosed? Bet they're regretting that decision.

**maillotpois** · 07-13-2006, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by SadieKate

What possible need is there for the public to know this information?

But what if I want to know??? I especially want to know if they've had Liqui-Gas...

**SadieKate** · 07-13-2006, 02:36 PM

Personally? The less I know about their body fluids the better . . .

**Running Mommy** · 07-13-2006, 02:55 PM

WOW!! The tone in this thread seems, well.. a bit contentious!
I've been away for a few weeks, what has happened??

Anyhoo...
Personally I like Floyd. And not just because of this revelation. I read a story on him a long time ago about how he got into the sport. He really is a rebel! The story that was linked on msnbc talks a bit about it. He certainly wasn't shown much support by his family for his love of cycling!!
And like some of the others I think he was forced to say something after the story had come out about it. He probably just wanted to make sure the facts were straight. And as for not disclosing it before now? Well, maybe he just didn't think it was something the public needed to know about?? I dunno??
Who cares?? I mean sheesh!! Let's admire these boys for their riding ability and not pull them apart!!
I was also screamiing my head off at the tv for Levi this morning. He lives in my hometown (well part of the year at least

) so I'll ALWAYS root for him! Plus I've talked to him before and he's a really really nice guy! This was a few years back before Lance fever really took hold, so I think he was surprised I recognized him. But he had his rabobank knickers on- so it was easy!!

**maillotpois** · 07-13-2006, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Running Mommy

I was also screamiing my head off at the tv for Levi this morning. He lives in my hometown (well part of the year at least

) so I'll ALWAYS root for him! Plus I've talked to him before and he's a really really nice guy! This was a few years back before Lance fever really took hold, so I think he was surprised I recognized him. But he had his rabobank knickers on- so it was easy!!

Ditto on that - he is SUPER nice. And so quiet and modest. I rode a charity ride with him last year and talked to him about the day I spent hanging out with his parents and brother in the Massif Central during the tour the year before. They are so supportive of him - but he was so cute when I mentioned it. Like he was almost embarassed by the amount of attention they gave him.

He's about the same size as my 10 year old daughter, too...

Dave Z and Fast Freddy were on the ride, too. Difficult to ride in a straight line when you see Fred.... he's so purty!!

**Dogmama** · 07-13-2006, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by jobob

you mean Mayo?

Yeah - that's what I get for trying to work & talk to you folks at the same time!

I read that Team Disco doesn't even have the premier parking spot for their RV - today they are next to the porta-potties!

Regarding their organization - maybe nobody WANTED to be their team leader? It would be a lot of pressure - always being compared to His Majesty.

**slinkedog** · 07-13-2006, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by maillotpois

But what if I want to know??? I especially want to know if they've had Liqui-Gas...

LOL! I'm so bummed that they took all the good stuff off of DZ's site! Although there was a checkers question a few days ago...

**jobob** · 07-13-2006, 04:18 PM

There's another DZ site that's more in character ...

http://www.davezabriskie.missingsaddle.com/

(his official site, http://www.davezabriskie.com/ has become entirely too tame !)

**slinkedog** · 07-13-2006, 04:41 PM

Aha! Will go have a look-see! Thanks, Jo!!

**jobob** · 07-13-2006, 04:41 PM

from schmalz stage 11 :

Simoni is back at the front, claiming that Landis offered him $40 to get him a water bottle.

Floyd will get yellow depending on the gaps. His teammates will not know until they finish tomorrow.

http://www.nyvelocity.com/content.php?id=890

**Kalidurga** · 07-13-2006, 05:21 PM

I am just wondering why he suddenly decided to make it a "story". he knew about his condition for two years and so did his team. Suddenly he decided that it is time to share it in the middle of the Tour. Maybe he will win this year and his story would be special, but bringing attention to himslef this way...

I could be entirely off base with this assumption, but...

Bike racing is as much mental as it is physical. The weekly RoadBikeRider e-newsletter recently had an article about psyching out your opponent. Floyd seems to be a smart guy. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if he timed this announcement strategically to psyche out his fellow Tour riders. Kind of like saying "You think you're tough enough to beat me? Look at what I've been dealing with! Bring it!!"

Some folks might find that offensive but, personally, I think it's pretty darned cunning.

**tprevost** · 07-13-2006, 06:08 PM

I loved today's stage!!!! I am routing for Floyd because I just like the guy, darned it... he marches to his own drummer. I was bummed out for George though and definately expected him to have a better day today

BUT, Levi made up for that a bit... what a fabulous performance for him!!! YEAHHHH!!

But, I want y'all to know that I'm gonna give Floyd time to get his hip thing back together then I'm gonna find out where he's riding and track that guy down! Okay, I would never bug him (other than to say great job or something) but it sure would be cool to ride by him (the opposite way, of course, since I might as well be standing still if he was going the same direction

) I hear he has several favorite climbs right near me

Trac'

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