Ullrich out of TdF!!!!

[Lifesgreat]

Hi neighbor - I live in that world too. I choose to believe these guys are innocent until they are proved, without a doubt, to be guilty.

Howdy neighbors! I am glad I live in a good neighborhood.

[emily_in_nc]

"I hope Hincapie, Landis and Levi do well." quote from Slinkdog
I agree and winning in that order won't be so bad either.
~JoAnn

That's my new order. I'm a huge Hincapie fan, but I didn't want him to win it because of lack of competition. I like Zabriskie too.

I am so saddened about what has happened. Like everyone else, I wanted all the top competitors to duke it out without Lance. If the riders expelled are indeed guilty, of course they don't deserve to ride, but it pisses me off something awful that they screwed up the tour for the many fans and viewers. Shame on them!

Emily

[KnottedYet]

E-in-NC : I just love your avatar picture, not trying to hijack the thread. Makes me want to go ride wherever that pic was taken.

Meanwhile, TdF, my boss was utterly freaked and spent some time on the computer at work reading up on it. I knew about it (and got to sound like a member of the cycling world) only because I read it HERE early this morning!

TE - your source for breaking world news.

[emily_in_nc]

E-in-NC : I just love your avatar picture, not trying to hijack the thread. Makes me want to go ride wherever that pic was taken.

Wow, thanks KY! My husband took the pic on my first-ever MTB ride right on our own 11 acres; he put in 1 mile of single track last year. It's not long, but it's nice to be able to ride off-road right out of your garage!

Sorry for the thread hijack...back to your regularly scheduled TdF talk.

The 9pm (eastern) OLN "Tour Preview" show should be very interesting indeed!

Emily

[spazzdog]

I'm not shocked but rather appalled at the length of the list of riders implicated. I can't wait to see the athletes from "other sports" who made the list...

As to the Tour, I think they should cancel it. I know that may seem rash, but maybe it's time to start punishing the group for the actions of the... well I was going to say the minority but at this point 22 or more riders have been ousted, so maybe it's gonna end up the majority.

My point is this, in some military units when a couple of folks screw up the whole unit gets slammed... at that point the screw ups get straightened out real quick. So cancel the Tour ... cancel the entire UCI Pro season. Give these boys some time to think about just how much they love the sport.

I'm disgusted with the whole batch of them... guilt, innocent, whatever. Every rider out there probably knew another rider that was doping and no one came forward. If it takes "implication" to shake this up, it's fine with me.

spazz, a TDF-aholic but considering a new sport (do they dope in curling?)

[janetsplanet]

It is my understanding that the decision to suspend the members of the team were the managers of the team themselves. OLN said that the team managers made this decision. I really think that on that alone the tour should go on and may the best man win..i agree that this should be a interesting race.

[spazzdog]

It is a good decision, but...

I'm sure there are others on someone else's 'list' that are doping and saying Yippee! Didn't catch me!

That's why I said cancel it. The cloud of doping so enshrouds this Tour and Pro Cycling in general that I think it might take truly drastic action to shake these folks up.

However, my tv is on as I sit wondering who of the remaining 177 riders (of original 198) will come out of this on top.

spazz

[alpinerabbit]

I'm sure there are others on someone else's 'list' that are doping and saying Yippee! Didn't catch me!
....
spazz, a TDF-aholic but considering a new sport (do they dope in curling?)

I'm sure they do, think beta blockers to calm you down.
A guy on a german forum says they start doping in cycling during the teenage years, among amateurs, it's not only the pros. It's everywhere and do not think those not on that "list" never took a thing.