Quote Originally Posted by WrensMom
Is it inevitable? Or are there any of you out there that truthfully do not experience any pain (crotch) when riding?


So, is it a matter of trying more saddles? (there is always another one) I did an online fit kit type thing at wrenchscience.com, and it told me that the conventional bike I have is not bad. I just want to know if my expectations are too high, and if I need to learn to accept ouchiness "down there" as part of the deal.

I can't imagine what an online fit kit can do to show you that your saddle is at fault!
However, go to Wallbike.com and check out their brooks pages. Just read what the other riders are saying about their experiences with their saddles. Wallbike has a 6 months return policy.. And they are friendly too.