So, how far is this from our original start point? (From another forum...)

"We always start at Diablo Vista Park, on Crow Canyon Road, a block or two up from Camino Tassajara. It's a couple of miles from South Gate, but that gives you a good warm up before you hit the climb. There are bathrooms there, which is nice.

There is probably room to park on Blackhawk Road, but I have no idea if it is legal"