Bicycle Driver: Cool website for urban riding skills

[Melody]

One odd thing I noticed was the cyclist signalling a right turn with his right hand. I stick to the left arm bent up like the DMV requires from a motorist. Do they still teach that in Driver's Ed?

They do, as far as I know, however in the California Vehicle Code section 22111 it says the following:

22111. Hand Signals[...]
(b) Right turn-hand and arm extended upward beyond the side of the vehicle, except that a bicyclist may extend the right hand and arm horizontally to the right side of the bicycle.[...]

So, in the state of California it is perfectly legal to use your right hand to point or use the classic left handed right turn hand signal. I personally use the "point in the direction of travel" method (i.e. use right hand pointing right) since it leaves less ambiguity. With some drivers who haven't seen a hand signal in a loooooooooong time they may forget what the crooked left arm pointing up means.

Mel

[snapdragen]

A million years ago when I did CAR 7, they had us using the left arm bent signal. It's stuck with me.

Trek - what hand signals are they using for LifeCycle?

[KnottedYet]

I use the right-arm-out-for-a-right-turn technique. I've found that cars seem to be confused about the left arm bent at the elbow thing. If I'm POINTING in the bloomin' direction I intend to go, they get it.

Also, if I act like a car they treat me like a car. I hog the left half of a lane when I need to make a left turn, and haven't had anyone pass me on the right yet. If I'm wearing a big ol' goofy lime green jacket or a reflector vest I get even more respect. Like they trust me to behave appropriately if I'm gonna dress like such a total dork and ride in the road. Put a hot orange flag on me and I'm way groovy.

For the most part, I get treated like a slow car on my work commute.

And I always wave and mouth "thank you" to any car who gives me the right-of-way, even if it was legally mine in the first place. Public relations, dontcha know.

[Dianyla]

And I always wave and mouth "thank you" to any car who gives me the right-of-way, even if it was legally mine in the first place. Public relations, dontcha know.

Yes, I always do this too. I think it goes a long way towards improving relations.

[newfsmith]

And I always wave and mouth "thank you" to any car who gives me the right-of-way, even if it was legally mine in the first place. Public relations, dontcha know.

I used to say "thank you", but on reflection decided that it might be interpreted by some as "f**K you", so now I try to smile, wave & just say "thanks".

I also use the right arm-right turn signal when riding by myself, but in groups it is sometimes suggested that right arm signals should be reserved for pointing out road hazards. Of course, if the hazard is to my left I use my left arm for them so I don't think of that as a hard and fast rule.

[thinpaperwings]

I love the site. However, I notice that the "sharp" cyclist tended to have jerky movements. A great example of this is in the Left Turn in Heavy Traffic clip. I think if I were driving my car behind him I would be worried about what he was going to do. I guess I just expect people to execute smoother movements. I understand positioning in the lane to indicate that you're going to change lanes or turn, but I think it's safer to be smoother in your movements. Did any one else feel this way?

-Sara-

[Dianyla]

I love the site. However, I notice that the "sharp" cyclist tended to have jerky movements. A great example of this is in the Left Turn in Heavy Traffic clip. I think if I were driving my car behind him I would be worried about what he was going to do. I guess I just expect people to execute smoother movements.

I thought the movements looked jerky, too. But their theory is that this makes you look more decisive to the driver, and also more noticeable. You just said it yourself that if you were in the car you'd be worried about what he was going to do. I.e. you'd be paying more attention. If you always act in a way that is more predictible and expected, you're easier to ignore.

[fatbottomedgurl]

I started signalling right with my right hand.
I noticed the jerky lane changes too. Did you see the car hit its brakes? I try to make a smooth transition. I wonder if he drives his car that way.
We have very fast speed limits in town (45-50mph!). Have to be very careful taking a lane to get to a left turn. I think I should get a mirror. Are they dorky? Guess dorky doesn't matter as much as dead.