Interesting you say this...I liked the version of my shorts from 2 years ago and those wore like tanks...and were MUCH stretchier. I wore a M in those. In the latest version they use a totally different material and I need a L. Last year's was essentially the same as the short from 2 years ago, but they still seemed to run smaller. And I suspect the chamois is cut just slightly different on this years model, putting the seams right on a friction area with my saddle. So frustrating.

I used to have a pair of Gore bibs and liked their chamois, but they were too small and I now am even larger than when I bought those.

I'd like my Endura shorts more, but the front of the chamois is too bulky/dense and defeats the purpose of the big cut-out on my saddle.