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    Quote Originally Posted by shootingstar View Post
    Great photos kg!

    Since it's so rare for me to travel in Europe, I prefer a cycling trip that's more utilitarian and enjoyable with some benefits of scenery along the way. Cycling would be secondary, while my effort is learning and seeing up close great different culture, history, art and architecture. I would be taking too much time, trying to climb the mountain routes. And with limited vacation time, need to focus on where I want to spend time and money overseas.

    Coincidentally dearie and I are planning a European trip, hopefully this fall. It would be in Beaune area of France just north of Alsace region or southeastern part of France in Beaujoulais wine country. Not as hilly as Dolomites. Then we take a high speed train with bikes to Barcelona, Spain for a few days. Back via Spain to Germany to a medieval, Rennaissance well- preserved town that neither of us have visited.

    It will be my 4th trip to Europe.
    That sounds like a wonderful trip--we were in the Beaune area in 2011 for a few days, and it was amazing. The food... The wine... Did I mention the food? And the wine?!?! We biked the trail through the vineyards, which was really fun. Then we drove to Strasbourg to visit some family who were there for work for a few years. Both of us took Latin in college, and have studied a bit of French and Italian, and traveled in France and Italy--we feel very comfortable in countries where they speak Romance languages. But we know no German at all. So of course, the French GPS of our French rental car--which we hadn't used, because we could read the signs in France--stopped as we got the border of Germany. We literally drove off the map! And right when we couldn't read the signs and felt lost for the first time on the trip... It was both terrifying and hilarious as we turned to each other with the simultaneous realization "we don't know any German!!!" panicked, and scrambled through the guide book for how to say "I don't speak German." Whoops...

    It's good to know what kind of vacations you like--there were some people who did the Dolomites trip who were perfectly capable of doing the rides, but suffering as much as that just wasn't their idea of a fun vacation.

    I sorta hope in the FAQ that I make both sides of the equation clear--no matter your cycling ability, if you don't want to go to your limit on the bike every day, it's not going to be a fun trip for you. But if you think that the challenge sounds enticing, and prepare for the challenge seriously, it's pretty doable. When I did the trip the first time, I was sure I was in completely over my head, and was surprised by how well I did on the trip instead. I was also surprised by people who were not so excited about how challenging the trip was--why did they sign up for it?

    I've been lucky enough to do some non-bike trips in Europe too--I've had some days hiking through museums that felt just as arduous, and just as delightful as any day bicycling in the Dolomites. There are just so many fun things to do and see!

    I hope you'll post photos from your trip!
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    Quote Originally Posted by khg View Post
    .....if you think that the challenge sounds enticing, and prepare for the challenge
    i’ve met a few people on my harder organized rides that i’ve come to really like. why this ride? can lead to an interesting conversation about challenges.

    thinking solo or with a couple of friends usually suits my mood/focus better than with groups on hard bicycling challenges.

    maybe it’s the mediterranean mountain/desert roads in my area but this dolomite thing is making me miss the beauty of the french alps and the northern italian mountains

    Quote Originally Posted by khg View Post
    ....I sorta hope in the FAQ that I make both sides of the equation clear.....
    clear to me....and thinking about it I need to add apple strudel and a masseuse to the chocolate and cookies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rebeccaC View Post
    thinking about it I need to add apple strudel and a masseuse to the chocolate and cookies.
    Yes! We had apple strudel a couple of days too--highly recommended
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    My new favorite phrase: ego is way too heavy to carry up a climb with you.

    p.s. The faq looks great to me. It's not a trip that I see in my future anytime soon, but I know a few people who might be interested. Thanks for posting it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ny biker View Post
    My new favorite phrase: ego is way too heavy to carry up a climb with you.
    So true. Some people get captivated by tourism photos or they never really did steep mountain cycling before.

    Sample southern Germany portions of trip a few yrs. ago.

    Freiburg, Germany portion.

    https://cyclewriteblog.wordpress.com...-rich-history/

    In Copenhagen for a few days.

    Yes, well I took 3 yrs. of high school Latin. Didn't help me much except for knowing connection between Latin and Romance language verb conjugation, plural vs. singular roots.. other word derivations.
    If I'm truly desperate, I try my pathetic crude French outside of France, if speaker doesn't know English. My partner can speak eroded German and read basic German....he immigrated from southern Germany as young boy. His extended family still has a little vineyard from the 1700's.

    I can only read some simple French words on menu, signage, etc. but it was helpful overseas. I do feel more at "home" just to hear French even if I only understand 5% of it.... Better than hearing Italian or Greek. My thoughts on bilingualism, multilingualism.

    I have not picked up beyond 10 German words since we've known each other for last 25 years. But have a better feel of German cultural habits/ticks. I think he knows under 5 Chinese words from me..
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    Quote Originally Posted by shootingstar View Post
    So true. Some people get captivated by tourism photos or they never really did steep mountain cycling before.

    Sample southern Germany portions of trip a few yrs. ago.

    Freiburg, Germany portion.

    https://cyclewriteblog.wordpress.com...-rich-history/

    In Copenhagen for a few days.
    Thanks for posting those links--I stole a few minutes from work to look at a couple of them. I love the Tour de Spargel--now I'm hungry!
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