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  1. #1
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    I showed the picture to 3 people at work and all 3 were clear that this is not a dresscode for school. To go out, fine... but not to school. And all 3 women have kids, some going to high school or college. They said that the skirt is fine but the top is too bra-looking, not enough covering and inappropriate for school and that the school was right in sending her home to change. This can be a huge debate and I can see why it went on the media.
    I see it like one person's freedom ends where another's begins.

    I wonder if the way we "read" how people should or not dress is not something "local" to their area.
    Helene
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helene2013 View Post
    I see it like one person's freedom ends where another's begins.
    See, THAT's the only attitude that's really controversial about these things. How in the world does what someone ELSE wears, infringe on MY freedom? And why is it only what girls and women wear, that infringe on boys' and men's freedom, and not the other way around? There's where the problem lies.

    Do we even want to open the can of worms about how some people think some women are oppressed because they wear too MANY clothes?

    I think the examples I gave from my own life illustrate the ONLY reason that's legitimate to talk about what to wear.

    My wearing homemade cult-style dresses and non-matching clunky shoes to work in a law office, before I taught myself better, was every bit as inappropriate as my showing my barely panty-covered butt to the Bishop in church.

    It's what fashion dictates is appropriate for the occasion and location. That changes with the times and it's different from place to place - as Americans traveling in Europe often find. Nothing to do with sex, not really; nothing to do with anyone's "freedom" except the person wearing the clothes. The tension between individualism and conformity will never end. But one hopes that men will someday stop using women's clothing as a way to control and shame women.
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 05-29-2015 at 05:45 AM.
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    Oakleaf,

    You are right. And is it only in today's world that we seem to complicate too many things so often or was it just more "hidden" in the good old days.

    Why are we always criticizing what a girl/woman wears. How often do we see remarks on what guys are wearing at Galas, etc. How many times do we hear someone say "she should not dress that way as it creates double-messages, etc.".

    What about those guys on billboard...do we say that because he's only in underwear that he's too little dressed vs women doing the same ad which would be provoking, or sexually related? Getting away from subject but the point is why are we like we are vs women?

    Wondering if the student was a male and came in class with something else than "standard" code, would he have been returned home to change?

    We did get something similar in Montreal a year ago (May 30th)
    http://globalnews.ca/news/1364959/mo...ol-dress-code/
    Helene
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    2015 Specialized Crux e5 - aka Bora Bora bike

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    Not for nothing, but our young men have a dress code also.

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    Well said, Oak.

    And there is no fashion situation on this earth that will ever make me think that seeing butt cheeks is okay. Blech.
    "My predominant feeling is one of gratitude. I have loved and been loved;I have been given much and I have given something in return...Above all, I have been a sentient being, a thinking animal, on this beautiful planet, and that in itself has been an enormous privilege and an adventure." O. Sacks

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    Wondering if the student was a male and came in class with something else than "standard" code, would he have been returned home to change?

    The answer is yes, but it happens much less often. A handful of times in my career. The young ladies are every day.

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    Thank you Rocknrollgirl for your answer. It seems we rarely see guys having issues on that front.
    Helene
    Riding a 2014 Specialized Amira LS4 Expert - aka The Zebra!
    2015 Specialized Crux e5 - aka Bora Bora bike

 

 

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