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  1. #1
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    SUPlove - lots of options. In our midst of adventure bikers we have mostly Surly -Pugs, Pugs Opps, Moonlander (the true fat bike). I just started riding the Surly ECR and love it - 29 x 3 tires instead of the 26 x 4 and up of the fat bikes. One of my friends owns a Salsa Vaya and A nine, zero, seven(I think that is what it called) - She has parked them both in favor of the Surly ECR - has more versatility. We also have Fargo riders and Salsa Mukluk riders and the DH rides a Surly Big Dummy with 26 x 3 tires. This last weekend we did an outstanding 3 day trip in the Owyhee Desert and nobody had a tire narrower than 3 inches. we rode some crazy stuff, fully loaded. Our fargo riding friend actually put the Surly front wheel that comes stock on the ECR, he can't do the same wheel on the rear, not enough room. Personally, I would
    go for Surly over Salsa - again more options. Give a serious look at the Surly ECR - your shop should be able to order one, especially if it's for an employee. I ride the small - I am 5'5" with a 80cm PBH and it fits great.Click image for larger version. 

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    Sky King
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  2. #2
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    Hey ladies,
    Well to answer ridebikeme's question, my store carries Scott, Trek, Felt, Cervelo, Colnago, Jamis, Bianchi, Look, and I can't remember what else. Good brands with quality bikes but none that suits my needs. We have a supplier that we order parts from that happens to also carry Surly and Salsa. I called in and our rep said he can do a one time bike EP for me. So my only problem is deciding which one to get. The closest stores that carry these two brands are in Tampa..about 300 miles away. In a couple of weeks I'll be driving there to visit family so I'll take advantage and test ride what I can at those stores.

    Sky King, I originally liked the Surly Pugsley but when I saw that Salsa has the aluminum Mukluk I changed my mind to that considering the water/mud with a steel frame bike (Pugsley). The places I can ride it down here is swampy, gravel, or something in between. I'm surrounded by the everglades lol. No hills here but I'm keeping in mind that I'll be moving in the next two years and I know I'll encounter climbing hills/mountains so that is the where the Fargo (monkey wrench) came in. Sky King from what I see in those pictures that is exactly what I want to do! Sometimes I think I was born in the wrong state lol though I do love my cuban coffee and toast haha. Anywho, the other reason the Fargo is stuck on my mind is because if I commute in the future again I feel that it would be more versatile as far as a bit quicker plus those handlebars look comfortable. How do the handlebars on the ECR feel with such a long ride? Like you said I am also considering the versatility between these bikes. I appreciate the replies and suggestions!

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    I am a huge, huge steel fan - regardless of climate. I just find the comfort on a steel bike far exceeds aluminum. The DH has a peugeot that is 45 years old, been all over the country, all types of weather with zero rust issues, and frame saver is a simple solution to rust concerns. Is the Fargo going to have wide enough tires? In our world we think of it as more of a Mtn Bike than a Fat Bike. If you insist on aluminum than go with the Mukluk over the Fargo to get the fabulous "float" a fat bike offers.

    Love, Love the Jeff Jones Bars. I do need to move my shifters and brakes up the bar - Jeff Jones has a great video on his site about shifter placement so is weird that Surly chose not to go with his recommendation. I opted to try them the way Surly sells them so I could do a review. Everyone else in our group has their shifter and brakes the "jeff jones way" and it makes the handling nicer and offers more positions and comfort for long rides. One of our friends commutes on his Fargo another commutes on his ECR - the tires on the ECR are so supple riding on pavement is much less work than any of the Fat Bikes I have ridden on pavement. Someday, when you live close, we can meet and take you to the desert
    Sky King
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  4. #4
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    Oh don't get me wrong I love steel frames too! My bianchi road bike and SS are both steel I was just considering the potential for rust. You are very convincing with the Surly ECR lol. Now I understand the handlebars and it's genius! I'm gonna call my rep and see if I can get a deal from Surly before I completely fall in love with the bike. I called the bike shops that are on the way to Tampa and they don't have the ECR to test it out so I'll just have to get a feel from whatever they have. You're DH is brave to have gotten the Surly Big Dummy..it looks like fun! I was talking to my co-workers today about the bikes and they just don't get me. I'm telling you I was born in the wrong state haha. They race mtb and road more than anything. What is the frame saver you mentioned? Also, I couldn't find the video of the handlebars and shifter. Can you link me? I'd love to meet up some day to ride! Thanks!
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  5. #5
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    http://youtu.be/SUxIflfeqLc This should be it. Also google Jeff Jones Bikes for his website

    Quote Originally Posted by SUPlove View Post
    Oh don't get me wrong I love steel frames too! My bianchi road bike and SS are both steel I was just considering the potential for rust. You are very convincing with the Surly ECR lol. Now I understand the handlebars and it's genius! I'm gonna call my rep and see if I can get a deal from Surly before I completely fall in love with the bike. I called the bike shops that are on the way to Tampa and they don't have the ECR to test it out so I'll just have to get a feel from whatever they have. You're DH is brave to have gotten the Surly Big Dummy..it looks like fun! I was talking to my co-workers today about the bikes and they just don't get me. I'm telling you I was born in the wrong state haha. They race mtb and road more than anything. What is the frame saver you mentioned? Also, I couldn't find the video of the handlebars and shifter. Can you link me? I'd love to meet up some day to ride! Thanks!
    Sky King
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    Gilles Berthoud "Bernard"
    Surly ECR "Eazi"
    Empowering the Bicycle Traveler
    biketouringnews.com

 

 

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