instead of Uggs, mukluk boots

[lph]

Wow! How come a bow hunter? I don't know anything about bow hunting (vs gun hunting), but it's not legal here, and I thought it was for humane reasons, ie. you have to be a lot better at it to get a clean and fast kill. But as I said, I know nothing about bows.

[Becky]

Wow! How come a bow hunter? I don't know anything about bow hunting (vs gun hunting), but it's not legal here, and I thought it was for humane reasons, ie. you have to be a lot better at it to get a clean and fast kill. But as I said, I know nothing about bows.

My guess would be range and thus safety. An experienced, responsible bow hunter will generally not take a shot longer than 50 yards. Rifles, by comparison, can accurately kill a deer a few hundred yards away.

(I don't hunt, but my father hunts both archery and rifle.)

[OakLeaf]

Yep, it's the range of the projectile that's the issue. (Also that they still have to have a state license, and bow season here is four months long as opposed to the gun season, which is never more than two weeks plus special seasons.)

We don't allow deer hunting with rifles at all in Ohio. The range is too long. Shotguns only in the main deer gun season, then there at least used to be a weekend handgun season - not even sure if they do that any more. Small game can be hunted with small-caliber rifles in their seasons.

A lot of municipalities near us have licensed a handful of bowhunters to control deer. AFAIK though, there are few if any places near us that have both municipal hunting regulation *and* lot sizes large enough to require homeowner permission. As I understand it, they hunt only in parks.

Still, the patchwork of property lines and jurisdictions is an issue. There were a couple of incidents I've read about already this fall (not on our land), where a deer was wounded, either by a car strike or a less-than-perfect shot, and kept crossing political boundaries or property lines, making it exceedingly difficult for anyone to finally put it out of its misery. Even though our property is posted, I'm aware that it's pretty much inevitable that sooner or later, one of our neighbors will track a wounded deer across our property line, and we'll have no real choice but to let them finish it.

Which I still much prefer to our other, former neighbor's "target" shooting in random directions that used to have bullets bouncing off our roof ... thankfully they were at least far enough away that there wasn't enough velocity to penetrate ...



... this thread has drifted, hasn't it? <guilty>

[lph]

Oh, and I can get back on-topic. Sorta ;-)

I've lusted for kayaking mukluks for several years now. They're high waterproof boots with a soft low-profile foot, and are designed for kayaking in cold water. If you have to get out of your boat in the water and drag it up on land, even in summer the water can be cold enough to make it an unappealing prospect. Up north where the water is always frigid and the tide effects ensure a lot of boat dragging they're a huge bonus.

I googled the traditional dry-wear mukluks and was surprised by one thing, though. The calf is so much wider than the foot, which seems to have very little insulation. They're supposed to be for cold, dry weather, but to me they look like they would let the cold in through the sole.

[shootingstar]

The calf is so much wider than the foot, which seems to have very little insulation. They're supposed to be for cold, dry weather, but to me they look like they would let the cold in through the sole

There is a cyclist in Edmonton (which is 300 km. north of us), who has a pair. She has her own blog, "girls and bikes". So if no one asks from TE, I'll ask her. However I won't get to it for the next 12 hrs.

I agree boots look more suited for dry powdery snow which we do get in our area but then we get warm chinook winds for the slushy snow melts.

[TrekDianna]

I guess what I disagree with is the macho posturing part of hunting, but that's a very small subset and I think is played up by the media. If you kill it and eat it and happen to decide to have its head taxidermied, I have no problem with it. (Keeps the deer population down--my only concern would be chronic wasting disease!)

Agreed. Last year there were so many photos on FB of guys with their just killed deer etc that a few friends and I started posing with our kale, leeks and other things just hunted down at the grocery store. Posing with a photo of what you killed just irritates me. Yes, it's the posturing. You killed it with a weapon, you did not wrestle it to the ground in a feat of strength. I have nothing against hunting for food, I do not like trophy hunting.

[shootingstar]

Last year there were so many photos on FB of guys with their just killed deer etc that a few friends and I started posing with our kale, leeks and other things just hunted down at the grocery store.

It's a great parody TrekDianna.

lph- I got a response from the cyclist-blogger several hundred km. north of us. Her mukluks are made from real animal hide. They are fine in drier snow and temperatures as cold as -30degrees C. Not that I would be tramping around in them over an hr. under those temp. She's pretty hardy herself --she cycles often the winter on her studded tires. Brings her young children along.

[Pax]

Agreed. Last year there were so many photos on FB of guys with their just killed deer etc that a few friends and I started posing with our kale, leeks and other things just hunted down at the grocery store. Posing with a photo of what you killed just irritates me. Yes, it's the posturing. You killed it with a weapon, you did not wrestle it to the ground in a feat of strength. I have nothing against hunting for food, I do not like trophy hunting.

That is too funny! Next hunting season you could do a slide show, you in camo stalking the aisles or in a field of veggies.

[Irulan]

Wow! How come a bow hunter? I don't know anything about bow hunting (vs gun hunting), but it's not legal here, and I thought it was for humane reasons, ie. you have to be a lot better at it to get a clean and fast kill. But as I said, I know nothing about bows.

Something to keep in mind is that in in the US, you have 50 states with 50 different Fish & Game departments, plus the Federal Forest Service. The hunting regulations vary greatly from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, as do game management policies.

[shootingstar]

shootingstar…do you know if the Nutrition North Canada program is helping much with the fresh and dried fruits and vegetables in those area’s? Do you know if the greenhouse is being funded by them?

I have no idea.

Here is a Canadian lawyer who lives in Iqualuit, capital city (town) for Nunavut on Baffin Island in the far Arctic on food pricing, both fair and gouging: http://sybaritica.me/2012/09/07/nuna...esee-papatsie/

(I like reading blogs of the lawyers who serve in legal aid for the locals in those communities....strong advocacy and passion for the locals and situation up there.)

[rebeccaC]

I have no idea.

Here is a Canadian lawyer who lives in Iqualuit, capital city (town) for Nunavut on Baffin Island in the far Arctic on food pricing, both fair and gouging: http://sybaritica.me/2012/09/07/nuna...esee-papatsie/

(I like reading blogs of the lawyers who serve in legal aid for the locals in those communities....strong advocacy and passion for the locals and situation up there.)

One of the focuses of the Nutrition North Canada program is to get fresh and dried fruits and fresh and frozen vegetables to the isolated northern communities at lower costs for the consumer. Your first linked article talked about a lower cost for those things now in those areas so I assume it’s helping. Hopefully the corporate greed in the subsided program (more about it in your first link than this link) can be corrected and costs lowered even more for the people of those isolated areas.

I looked into the Iqaluit greenhouse and it seems to be a community effort with help from the Nunavut government and the Cold Climate Innovation program at Yukon College. That greenhouse has been around for 6 years now and so far has been replicated in two other communities.

Hopefully this all will mean more nutritious and varied meals with produce most of the year for the people in those isolated areas.

[OakLeaf]

I guess I have a hard time understanding why that's any different from sucking water out of the Colorado River to irrigate the US desert.

Certain foods are in season in certain places. Certain places will support larger human population densities than others. When large human populations move to relatively barren areas and expect out-of-season foods to be shipped in, or grown locally at huge energy costs, that just isn't sustainable ... It's no more reasonable to expect asparagus in Ohio in August, than it is to expect broccoli in the Yukon in May...

[rebeccaC]

It’s not like a lot of people are moving to the Northern Canada area. Iqaluit is the capital of Nunavut and has 6000 or so people. The Nunavut territory is about the size of Western Europe and has around 30,000 people, mostly Inuit.

Btw…the greenhouses that the Cold Climate Innovation program are involved with in the territory are completely solar powered.

[OakLeaf]

But that's just what I meant. Sure, to someone who lives in fertile, water-rich Appalachia, that sounds like hardly any people at all. But if it's more than the land and climate will support, it's more than the land and climate will support, whether that's 600 or 6,000,000.

[roo4]

Oakleaf,

Here in PA, Black Bears and Coyotes are significant predators of fawns. They might not pull down an adult deer on a regular basis, but they do target fawns. And we have a lot of bears, last year's harvest was over 3500 statewide.