Oh, I don't doubt sedentary people have the kind of muscular-skeletal pain you described, Oak. I just hate the comments that my pain is self-induced and I should just give it all up, as an almost 60 year old woman. Yeah, well BS on that. I admit, I do have moments when I'd like to be what DH and I often call "a regular person," and maybe see a little walk as my form of exercise. And I don't even compete or do half the stuff some of you all do. I get over the moment quickly, but I have a bunch of nagging things that I've just been ignoring, which will eventually land me back in Walter's office (my MacKenzie PT).