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    Sigh, reading the responses from the original posters. They don't get that a person's past experience affects what they do today and think that their sterling behavior is the behavior of all men. They must have been born with blinders attached. I can guarantee you I can find some chauvinistic and dominating males in south Texas, thinking of one right now who shall remain nameless.

    And they still don't get that all sports are segregated in some way.
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    who can it be now?

    That takes empathy. Some people (of either gender) don't have that.
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    Just got in from out of town and read the posts here and on BJ. Thanks for posting the threads, SadieKate, because I didn't even know about these women only events (being new to cycling) and would love to get in on something like this!
    As far as the clowns who get their panties in a wad over women-only stuff (women power?), don't forget that there are small minded people in every corner of society, including cycling! I see that there were just as many or more men who were supportive. I've worked in predominantly male occupations all of my working life and there are a lot of supposedly educated men out there who are truly bozos, but I believe women are gaining more (well deserved) respect all the time.

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    help

    I couldn't find the link. what am i doing wrong?

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    Doc - Look under the forums section. You'll see a thread w/Red Riding Hood in the title.
    Last edited by Selkie; 04-02-2006 at 08:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadieKate
    Sigh, reading the responses from the original posters. They don't get that a person's past experience affects what they do today and think that their sterling behavior is the behavior of all men. They must have been born with blinders attached. I can guarantee you I can find some chauvinistic and dominating males in south Texas, thinking of one right now who shall remain nameless.

    And they still don't get that all sports are segregated in some way.
    I posted another response this morning.

    It finally dawned on me that some of them are looking at it as a personal affront. In other words, it's all about THEM. And most of us here look at it as being about US. That is, something special for us. We see it as a positive. The THEMs see it as a negative. Venus and Mars or whatever.

    Of course I still think our positive spin is preferable! What's not to love about an event that celebrates and empowers active women? DUH!

    I always used to ask my good friend HotRod (whom some of you know), a man that has a tendency to say "insensitive" things: "what GOOD will come out of what you say?" He always conceded that I had a point.

    Off to kick some male butt on the ski hill!

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    yellow "It finally dawned on me that some of them are looking at it as a personal affront. In other words, it's all about THEM. And most of us here look at it as being about US. That is, something special for us. We see it as a positive. The THEMs see it as a negative. Venus and Mars or whatever."

    water bottle half empty or half full

    "Of course I still think our positive spin is preferable! What's not to love about an event that celebrates and empowers active women? DUH!"

    Do we synchronise watches (one hour ahead) and begin "operation TE" with frank discussions on BJ of dealing with hot flashes, night sweats, periods and whether or not to ride pregnant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420
    yellow "It finally dawned on me that some of them are looking at it as a
    Do we synchronise watches (one hour ahead) and begin "operation TE" with frank discussions on BJ of dealing with hot flashes, night sweats, periods and whether or not to ride pregnant?

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    I suggest how to ride on "heavy flow" days---how many tampons can one fit in your saddle bag and whether the caffeine in Midol will give you a boost to go faster.

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    mickchick "I suggest how to ride on "heavy flow" days---how many tampons can one fit in your saddle bag and whether the caffeine in Midol will give you a boost to go faster. "

    good idea!

    Since the guys objecting to women only rides are lined up in droves to lead a progressive ride series for women they need to know what supplies to bring along, only fair.

    This sport takes time, and money and I though to myself "self?" I thought "while these guys are off on their epic rides, if they have kids, who's watching the kids? We're all over this "how to balance life/work the bike" issue." My guess is they have it solved too.
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    Hey, snap!

    Don't give up on BJ. That was probably the only thread I've seen in the 13 (14?) months that really went awry. And, you have to admit that it wasn't the flame wars you see on other forums.

    I love having no more issues than 2,600 other women . . . I think. Was that a compliment?

    BTW, I loved everybody's posts. Makes me appreciate my friends even more.
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    I thought of responding to that thread, but I've decided those guys are just tedious twits who deserve no effort of a response on my part.

    Plus everyone else already said what I felt, and said it better at that.
    Last edited by jobob; 04-02-2006 at 04:45 PM.

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    jBraTTon just made a very nice response. He's still clueless that there will always be times when female camaraderie and sharing is appropriate just as there is the same for men. I give him kudos for listening and trying to comprehend.
    Frends know gud humors when dey is hear it. ~ Da Crockydiles of ZZE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapdragen
    Amen sister!
    Did Hades freeze over? You agreed with me! I think I am going to faint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkq
    Did Hades freeze over? You agreed with me! I think I am going to faint.
    Hey, you're OK for a conservative, engineer type......

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    A little OT, but a little related. My husband was totally shocked to find out that when I ride alone I sometimes get ummmm comments from men, not other cyclists mind you, but guys out on the street. It never happens when he's with me, but who would want to chance making a lewd comment when the 6'4" hubby is around. I was actually surprised that he was that naive about the habits of other men and the effects that his presence has on them.
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