Quote Originally Posted by indysteel View Post
Yeah but that weight savings comes at a price. Even the AL version of the Warbird is a far bit more expensive than the Crosscheck, Vaya or Casseroll. Plus, it's AL. I wonder how it rides in comparison.
Bwahaha! Surly states on their blog that they're thinking of pouring molten lead into their frames because so many people say they're "heavy". LOL.

I have an LHT. I love it. It's not that heavy. If you're not competing in the pelotons of racing glory, you should be just fine.

Surly's are the most versatile, capable bikes with possibilities for modification, that I've ever come across. The Cross-Check can fit really big 700x45c tires. Such a cushy darned ride! The LHT has big clearances too! I've ridden long distance on my LHT, it's not impossible. I don't think the Salsa's are as modifiable or customizable to suit the rider's tastes. Which now that I've owned a Surly, I don't know if I can get enough of!!!

I also like that Surly powdercoats their bikes, which isn't pretty but is extremely durable.

My brain keeps nagging, get a Rivendell, but where would I park that fancy of a bike. Nowhere. I don't live in a high-crime city, but damn I'd need 16frickenlocks to lock up that thing. And a car alarm. And a doberman. I already lock my bikes like a crazy-person anyway. #bikethievessuck

Best of Luck in your search! *get a cross-check* Tee-hee!