Mind made up.

[Antaresia]

Interesting. A few other things that come to mind that might contribute to its slugglishness is the rotatoing weight of the wheels and tires, the DC's wheelbase, and the fork's rake and the bike's trail. Rake and trail (trail is a function of the HTA, wheelbase and rake) affect how a bike handles, from really stable (some would say sluggish) to really responsive (some would say twitchy). Although I wouldn't expect a cyclocross bike to be overly stable in its handling, it depends on what fork they used with the frame.

In any event, I'm sorry the bike's not working out for you. It's such a shame.

I wish I knew more about numbers. The DC is the 52cm frame, no idea how the apollo would compare. I would say the DC is more stable though, comparatively. I went to party on the weekend on the apollo, since my friend didn't have paniers yet I loaded all our beer/snacks into the milk crate. I had to stand up to climb a hill and almost dumped my bike XD

anyway, we'll see how the longer stem works for me. 10cm difference is a lot of cm...

[indysteel]

I wish I knew more about numbers. The DC is the 52cm frame, no idea how the apollo would compare. I would say the DC is more stable though, comparatively. I went to party on the weekend on the apollo, since my friend didn't have paniers yet I loaded all our beer/snacks into the milk crate. I had to stand up to climb a hill and almost dumped my bike XD

anyway, we'll see how the longer stem works for me. 10cm difference is a lot of cm...

Are you sure it's 10 cm and not 10 mm? Most stems are measured in millimeters and it's common to go from, say a 90 mm stem to a 100 mm stem.

[Antaresia]

oh, I'm positive it's 10cm. He wasn't measuring the stem, he was measuring from saddle to drop bars. The apollo was never fitted, but if it has too much of a reach I don't feel it. I had an 80km day on it and the only problem was that my elbows were a little stiff, but I don't change hand position all that much and we did do a fair bit of gravel riding.

I have no idea what to think anymore.

[warneral]

Ou I just special ordered To have one built yesterday. It will be my all-rounder and we used my IF which was professionally fitted to order the best frame based on its measurements. My If fits and rides like a dream but i was looking for something for light loads and rail trail rides. I hope I'll like my DC b/c it isn't cheap!