I've never owned a carbon bike. And I have 4 bikes. 3 hybrids and 1 folding bike. 3 bikes (which include folding bike) have a rack.

I've done 5,000 to 7,000 kms. annually for some years in cycling mileage.

Therefore, I hope a kickstand does not make me a freda.

Do I plan to get a carbon bike? No. All of my bikes get locked outdoors often and sometimes are unattended for a few hrs. Not interested in perpetual worry of stolen, costly carbon bike.