Judge not a cyclist by a kickstand

[Maye]

just for those who don't know- click stand is a collapsable temporary kick stand with a u shaped top (selected by size of the top tube) so that it requires no clamping. the top tube rests in the u shape and the click stand extends to the ground. gloves in the brakes to keep it from rollein, turn the wheel 90 degrees to one side to brace and the bike is free standing, and safe. Plus the frame breaks down into three connected pieces that fit nicely in a jersey pocket.

marni

Thanks for the description, Marni.

[Desert Tortoise]

Thanks for clarifying about carbon bikes not taking the torque of an added kickstand. I couldn't understand why it was better to lay down a $2000+ bike on the ground than to have a kickstand. Other people had told me a kickstand adds weight to the bike, its dangerous in an accident or its just "wrong."

I'm going to check out that click stand thing, thanks!

[Kiwi Stoker]

I like to think of carbon bikes as throughbred horses. Look great, perform well in a race but not exactly something you would take out to attach to a wagon.

That's why there's so many different bikes out there. Each bike for every purpose. I am totally in love with the Dutch cargo bikes (with the cargo area at the front of the bike). A store near me rented out and had a BBQ bike (gas grill on the front), Chill box bike (icecreams anyone?) and trishaw bikes.

My carbon bikes always get leant against something- fence, tree bench etc. Would never "lay down". I have these really cool triangle frame thing that slips over the rear hub to hold my carbon bike upright if I go to a race as bike shops use to display bikes. It's too big or heavy to carry, but at the start or end of the race, while waiting for prize giving etc it's perfect if there's noting to lean against.

I can sort of see the issue of a kickstand that is attached permanently to a bike being a hazard while riding in a bunch and if wheels overlap. Kind of like how you are supposed to put the rear quick release lever running up along the seat stay- it's just another thing that could "catch" if some dofuss behind you overlap their wheel with your rear one.